[000:00:00;00] wow, how did you do that? that is, it really is art, secondly, europeans, not all europeans are sold for money, look, yes , there is a former minister there, yes, europeans who are there with putin. east. yes, when they show, there is a middle-eastern sheikh sitting there. he has a watch there, one and a half million dollars. yes, there is a gold cube there , a rolls-royce. europeans don’t have that. yes , there is still corruption there, but it is, well, on a micro-scale compared to the russian federation there european politicians he has a watch for $200. no, for $200 in cash, it means that something is not clean, that is, money could not buy everything . and what is easier, what else did russian special services rely on, for example, austria, i will give you an example. austria is a country that has a low

tolerance for the activities of special services of foreign countries in its state. i lead the opposition like this. if the special services of other countries do, well, the austrian government thinks that other countries are active in vienna , salzburg, there are some other cities, and this activity is not aimed at causing harm austria, well, the country of austria, yes, let them spend, let them work, but when it harms austria, then there will be a reaction, and vienna, for example, has simply turned into the capital of world espionage, when, for example , russia's diplomatic base in austria has 200 people, 200 people, yes. the politicians know the part there, the diplomats know . there are literally a dozen or two dozen people. the rest. who are these people

? what do they do? they included the art of russia, there is something else there, and our special services work here, and everything europe will fall apart, there is no single body , hungary is alone in britain, the germans are generally worried about the french, it’s just about more chatter, and the impression was created that everything will be fine, everything will be okay, nobody will be against the russian federation, but you see how it was calculated, i know, really , any spirit , as i once communicated. there is so much money in austria, in principle. well, it is a rich country, one of the richest in europe, maybe after germany. well, for sure, he also said that austria-hungary was an empire and had huge profits from its various

dominions, so to speak, but this money did not go anywhere. that is, what was accumulated, conditionally speaking, once it all remained, and what was accumulated by london once, in principle , it all remained, and therefore he also never got into the spirit of the past that was in europe , you know like charles de coster in the legend of linzhpilya, what are the classes, the ashes are bubbling in my chest, and here are these ashes , the classes continue to beat in my chest, maybe the europeans just didn't feel this, finally they felt it was touched, i think the string is an attempt to humiliate them to show that they are not incapable and are not capable well, for sure, ukrainian heroism, sacrifice and some incredible incredible desperation of our army, our people, at least not the ducks of its representatives, she awakened the same spirit in europeans and in their villages. now we let's listen, you know who, we'll listen to markov, a russian propagandist and poli and a political scientist, who is he, a politician who said a very interesting phrase about the course of the war, and then we

'll move on from it, let's listen to markov, i'll go a little further he gave everyone to be forced to wage a war, a large specialization, specialization practically failed with us, let's donate completely in the air , where do i need peace? that's also eh by eh means eh array of artillery yes, that's all we can do if we stay serious and show our behavior as a forceful artillery and missile strike is hit, well actually markov made it clear that now it is necessary or very a big war or very big sacrifices or stop this war because it happened. not as you thought , mr. yevhen, the question before you is what kind of help ukraine will receive and is still receiving today, so i understand that as a result, according to the results of rammstein, we should motivate

russia in this situations uh-uh go on and we uh-huh we know that there are some secret negotiations going on behind putin's back or at his request to somehow agree on the end of the war . more war, less war, it cannot become now. well, russia is motivated primarily by its imperial consciousness. we somehow should not reject the fact that in fact there are people who want to defend the empire, and there may be absolutely no less than those

who want to defend democracy, and in quantitative terms their indicators may be no more at all, don’t forget that the russian imperial tradition has lasted long enough, and we sometimes feel some masochistic reflections on the fact that the restoration of ukrainian independence has only been over a little more than more than 30 years. well , poland, forgive me, also experienced several divisions of poland, and in germany, italy in it was put in its current form only in the last third of the 19th century, you heard that politicians from these countries publicly beat themselves up and said, well, we are so worthless, we are so unhappy because rayland the palatinate is not like bavaria and sardinia is not like lombardy . i personally have not heard it and we should not say such things, it does not mean that

ukraine has to, well, be in everyone, so to speak , to remind teterukana of tokovishchi and say that here we all are here - that's all, everyone has solved all their tasks, no, ukraine in today's world is not easy, but much more humanistic than, say, the world of the 20th century, its citizens have proven with weapons in their hands that it is not accidental and its statehood is not accidental who else what other country in recent decades in europe did this in the confrontation with the largest state in the world, we have no excuses for any kind of inferiority complex, we already have

to be critical of ourselves and analyze ourselves differently but uh really well there is uh these are things that you have to respond to completely soberly and say that we have done our bit , we have shown ours, and we will continue to show as much as we can. and you can help us, and ukraine should correctly form a message to its western partners, not just saying that we protect you, this is not always the case. must come try to get into their brains and talk about things that are understandable at different levels to different people who have approximately the same education system and, for example, not just say "all ukraine is wonderful" but to say that in this battle of good and evil that is going on in ukrainian lands today, ukraine is the personification

of good because that russia embodies absolute evil and there are examples of this times two three and you have the opportunity to be on the side of good because you are democratic developed progressives and we have to cooperate with you accordingly and we take on a significant burden you and you help us that is, you need your subjectivity as much as possible. well, if you want to declare and not just worry about standing somewhere in a corner that something is wrong with us, well, comprehensively, less cost is really worth it to ukrainians to get rid of it already and try to all people who have positions in to speak in an influence on e consciousness, opinion leaders, the intelligentsia, above all, scientists, politicians, philosophers, writers well, although they were not respected in ukraine

for a long time, and the philosophers were evil, it was unclear why they were, i remember when even the school ended, they were there in the mid-90s x years and when i said that i wanted to enroll in philosophy, everyone asked me what it is, why is it needed, how are you going to eat from it? well, i did not enroll in philosophy, but in philology, but that’s not the point, and philosophers , writers, for a long time in ukraine, it was like this some kind of phenomenon that exists but no one is interested, they did not form meaning, so now it is very important to form meaning and remind ukrainians of what they should be proud of stated yesterday on the eve of ramstein, this is a very important phrase and a very important message, we do not see any signs that president putin is preparing for peace is he ready to negotiate out of respect for the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine, we see that president putin and russia still want to control ukraine and therefore, the only thing we can do to prevent this is to continue to provide military aid

to kiev, continue to provide military aid, and then there is also a stop. he said that europe should produce and is already producing more weapons and more ammunition in order to saturate the ukrainian-russian front today, you know when they said we don't have enough weapons, almost all of nato's stockpiles were cleared , well, listen, when there are not enough mercedes in europe , they don't say, lord, we don't have enough mercedes and audi, what to do well you simply produce them and that's why there are enough of them or we don't have enough of them there, i don't know french wines well, you make them in the same way, you can just make weapons and their ammunition because now there is a war, i understand that europe is moving to this thinking that it is really possible to manufacture that it is really a business and here is this story with a german company now i forget what it is called exactly which is ready to provide ukraine with panther tanks. what a tank it is to show it now in the battle on the ukrainian-russian front, it is advertising to

the whole world. i think that the germans are beginning to understand that this is also a business . to produce more weapons and more equipment, this is a question for you, mr. ivan. if now, from minus the number of one second army, because the mobilizations are ongoing, and here and there , the losses are different, and this is all a very question, it is not unstable, yes, but the question of technology and weapons is more specific on your opinion for the power to increase the provision of aid to ukraine on the condition that plants and factories on the territory of europe start working more actively, what are our prospects and our partners in this war, what are putin's prospects then, how does this future look to him despite the fact that he has the latest weapons in six months, there will definitely not be a small message about the fact that you said that there in europe there, there, weapons have run out, yes, the warehouses are empty. well, we do not know

the criteria by which europeans evaluate their warehouses as empty. there are people who are millionaires who have $10 million in assets. and when he has $8 million, he says that he has almost nothing left. well , imagine. yes, there is such a difference, but europeans can also be there when the warehouses have reached somewhere around half they say about us already in general there is nothing, yes, that is, there is still half, and they believe that there is nothing. therefore , we must be more careful with these words, do not panic , lest everything be lost. it is highly accurate, so it prevails over ordinary weapons of the brezhnev khrushchev model, well, of those times . look, even when the russians say, here we are, what is there death or hail and this

volley fire system in and what do they say about the effectiveness of this weapon? yes, there is water the word kipiai yes, this weapon covers a square there from there 300 by 300 yes, that is, they do not say about hitting, they say that we throw something into this square, and if it hits it, it doesn’t hit it, then what difference does it make, we still throw it there and the europeans to the americans they are very careful about the money they spend on weapons, and each of these excalibur shells costs $130,000. that is, well, serious money costs, that is, one shot, one hit. yes , in the worst case, an additional shot in order to finish off a specific target, if for for some reason, the previous shot didn't hit. that's why the europeans, together with the americans, are harnessing themselves for years. this is very important. it should not immediately confuse our

citizens that this is a war for years . they are calculating their business for a second. they have no such history. turn everything off yes we don't make everything anymore they are thinking they are recruiting people for production they are expanding existing productions or creating new ones they are leasing a plot of land or buying it they are hiring people they are building new ones the premises receive licenses, certificates, conclude agreements for the supply of rare earth metals that are used for the production of these high-tech weapons, there are microcircuits, and various microelectronics must be designed and brought, that is, all this is being prepared for years, and when they were yesterday , they were informed that they had already arrived in ukraine for a meeting, representatives of british companies show up there with french e-e regarding

the manufacture of weapons in ukraine. yes, there is this process to start, it says about that, just imagine what the europeans, the british, they see perspective in your investments, i.e. imagine yourself and put yourself in their place, they come to a country that is at war and they are ready to manufacture weapons here, that is, it is a question of well, as an option , the manufacture of weapons in ukraine is not only somewhere outside the borders, because they are not sure about the prospects of ukraine, they also look the question of production in ukraine, yes , there is a question of security so that russia's russians with their caliber and spheres do not destroy everything with daggers, but the fact that they are saying this means that they believe in the victory of ukraine they see the prospect of this war. yes, when it will end, and they, i understand, have in their hands either some preliminary written memorandum or some oral agreement

by the leadership of ukraine about the fact that the weapons that will be manufactured at these enterprises are not important, there will be artillery shells there for tanks or for small arms, these products will be purchased by the government of ukraine for years to provide for the ukrainian army, that is, they are contracted for years, and this should be a great signal for you that the europeans in they believe in us and if they believe in us then why why should we doubt ourselves and how many of my acquaintances there are oh what's all gone well yes ukraine the issue is already closed we have to go somewhere there i don't know there to spain there to america start anew life here, the war is forever, you know ukraine is really now turning into sich and uh, i remember uh well, how at one time there was such a concept about this, by the way, valery shevchuk, a well-known historian and writer, wrote as a cossack state

, well, actually, the cossack state is ukraine the cossack state and will turn into a phenomenon. and by the way, let me mention if even the history of the battle for vienna against the turkish invasion, in which the zaporozhian cossacks took an active part. but together they and the poles, together with other armies there, the armies of europe and the netherlands from austria itself, managed to stop the invasions in the same way, if you say the crimean war there, but because ukrainians were already there from different sides of the crimean war, that is already a separate story, well , they were mainly during the time of the russian empire, but when europe was united, any influx then could have been restrained when europe was not united as, let's say, all of the second world war, then history was a little different. it looked different. i will now give us the opportunity to briefly recall and listen to president zelensky once again. he spoke to the british parliament in london and said such a phrase that has already become so a positive meme for europe at this time, let's listen. i believe that this symbol will help us in our next

coalition of aircraft and i am addressing you and the world with simple but most important words for ukraine, we need combat aircraft for we need wings of freedom there. there was a mistake, i was just voicing it again. maybe someone was already very happy in sync and there is. well, in the comment of yen for stolomberg, oh yes, austin said about 972 tanks, actually 90 t-72 tanks. that is , we probably have a technical error there came out because someone would think that already thousands of tanks are going to ukraine, no, it's 90 t-72 soviet tanks. well, about the wings of victory , that's what volodymyr zelenskyi said. summarize summarize our conversation a p yevgeny attacks are long-range long-range weapons a-a wings victory what will be the key key turning point in this war in your opinion there are again planes depending on what

missiles will be cool ground or cool ground oh air class or e class air, ground, because the air class is ground, then there you can destroy targets at a long distance on the ground, and if only air, then only aviation can be tested, everything is equal, the aggressor's aviation is in the sky and does not appear very often in ukrainian sky therefore, such a story also depends, but here are long-range weapons and the wings of victory. these will really be the wings of victory. is this a new stage before an even newer stage of confrontation, mr. yevgeny, in your opinion? well, of course, today we had to talk about the wings of love. wings of victory, there is one nuance that in ukraine, for obvious reasons, our fellow citizens do not want to hear about what you mentioned about the missiles that we, the ukrainian

military, can strike at the internationally recognized territory of the russian federation, this for many western countries, the issue is sensitive. well, you can say . it's not just a red line, it's even a bright red. how can you counter this? in fact, you can also counter this. i think that ukraine should not talk about the fact that , well, we will not use these weapons against russian troops on russian territory. territory no, we should talk about the fact that, as a result of the russian-ukrainian war , ukraine will not claim a single piece of russian territory, that we will restore our own

territorial integrity, but encroach on the territory of russia, we will by no means be such a public signal, we need a second non-public signal aimed at the destruction of the russian empire or the russian federation from the middle, that ukraine must in any way prove the need to dismantle russia in order to ensure european security. we must also carry out and thirdly, you mentioned rain metal, which is ready to supply even the newest tanks to ukraine, well, actually, the queue for hymars at the hymars manufacturer has already been drawn for several years in advance, exactly the same as the british are talking about the fact that they are ready to place their production of british equipment on the territory of ukraine. and what have we done? we have at least a hint of a registered

bill on creating unique investment conditions for the development of military defense enterprises. do we think that we will defeat russia tomorrow and after that we will live in an ideal world, where there is no longer any threat in ukraine, i would like to look at these people who think so, by the way , we should be realists and not idealists, this is completely understandable the same can be said of poland, which fought back against the bolsheviks, say, in the 20th year. then there was a period between the war poland did not last until the 39th year, and then it fell under the onslaught of it from one side of hitler from the other side of stalin . that is, well, too. by the way, why poland was quite militarized and a strong state, it was just unlucky that it was attacked from two sides. well, you see, now putin is doing the same thing that hitler did, he annexed crimea, he annexed the sudetenland

, the anschluss of belarusians, in fact, he did what you did to me hitler did and unleashed the anschluss of austria the war against ukraine was agitated against poland only here. the question is that poland was attacked from the other side by russia, well, a little later there in a few weeks, and europe turned its back on ukraine. because if ukraine was also attacked or not helped, then i think that the history of ukraine would have been the same heroic, tragic, like the history of poland in the 39th year. well, finally , you know what i want to say, mr. ivan, you just mentioned about rare earth materials, according to estimates that were given even before the beginning of the full-scale invasion of ukraine ukraine there is probably the largest in the world in the prospect of er deposits of rare earth metals , we are talking about the southeast. by the way , why is putin so busy there? and in fact it uses such reserves equal to what is in china, except for ukraine, there is no

other country in the world, therefore the phrase people die for metal remains banal. i again understand that war has many dimensions, we we are fighting for ukraine, for our land, for the homeland of our relatives, our dear history, and so on. well, we understand that in this war there are other interests, resource interests, and we understood that we should give the huge resources that are in ukraine today to russia and, therefore, to china in the future, no one is particularly going to, therefore, this war will continue, and there is another dimension to this war, therefore, mr. ivan, i will ask you this, and ukraine as a resource, we will talk, you know, as adults in the language of real politics, ukraine as a resource country. and i will only briefly give what by the assessment of the fact that in the south russia was captured in the southeast according to m.m. to find such approximate estimates of resources there for more than 13 billion dollars. this is so that we understand that putin is also not fighting for russian measures, he is fighting for real money, real money

resources, here is ukraine as a resource, to what extent is it ready to fight for it? europe, realizing that a free democratic country with such huge resources is a huge plus for the european union, well, banal, please , mr. ivan, look at it well, i will not say that it is not i agree with this opinion that putin is fighting for a resource, listen, if they say 13 billion of these resources, the approximate value of these northern streams, if i'm not mistaken, they cost 17 billion dollars, and then never , what's the problem? yes, trillions. sorry, trillions, it's me. got confused well, what was the problem of the soviet union and the russian federation ? they never counted money at all, completely , completely, money for them, it was uh, take the nightstands, yes, open the nightstand, take it there , tomorrow they still call you one and a half minutes. mr. yevhen, i have a minute and a half left, because the time is running out, but i really want to hear from both of them, please, everything is clear then . well, let’s do it. ukraine really has great prospects. after the victory, we will really deal with our western friends to

somehow thank them and create conditions for e coming to the ukraine of multinational corporations, which at one time contributed to the growth of singapore , they said, turned singapore into what it is now, that is why there is something to fight for . the problem with resources is still well, if we talk about the war in europe, then it was in the car, now resources and er africa and the middle east , it is clear why they went there with wars, well, in spite of that, there are other dimensions, religious, political , ideological in ukraine, as resources, again , how ready is europe together with us to defend it because , well, in order to live normally it is also necessary to develop.

patronage and under the operational leadership of the european union gave an impetus primarily to the economy of the european union, that is, if we believe that after the victory over russia, ukraine receives such a bow from the entire leadership of the european union, then this is not the case . ukrainians are fighting primarily for their own freedom and independence, and this our victory and converting it into an increase in foreign political influence will still have to be done. well , i think that efforts must be made before that, that is, the creation of one's own subjectivity is enough it is a difficult process and ukraine still has a lot to do. i thank you very much for joining our conversation and general magda, the director of national world policy and ivan stupak , he is a military expert and also an employee of the security service of ukraine and from the fourth to the fifteenth year. thank you

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