[000:00:00;00] the actions of er, well, let's say that they opposed the occupiers, regarding the er terror of the transition to the ruble and the imposition of various kinds of policies , including commercial ones, er, er, er, related to the currency. well, it is definitely from the very at the beginning, the occupiers imposed although they did this a lot well, they showed aggression but they did it slowly because they didn't have full-fledged tools to replace it, but at the moment the facts are such that they actually force people to use their papers with rubles, thank you very much, mr. roman take care, roman, ex-deputy mayor of kherson, the head of the humanitarian project in the kherson hub , was in touch with us, and now we will talk about uh, also the occupied territory, well, part of kherson is occupied, so we talked about the occupied territory and talked about how the enemy would is on the territory controlled by ukraine

, now let's talk about the trans-donetsk e-e novel vlasenko, the head of the trans-donetsk district administration panorama, i congratulate you good evening , it's always difficult to talk about this because you understand that the situation is not easy in the occupied territories i would like to ask in general how severodonetsk lives now, what is changing there, what is going on , what are the possibilities, what are the restrictions for people living in the occupation, please? there are not very many left there, less than 10% of the pre-war times from the number until february 24, the situation regarding communal services there is improving a little, but in reality there

are no successes there, they are trying to restore the light cable gas somewhere better somewhere worse heating is not the issue now, they are trying to install some decentralized boiler rooms there, but there are no clear results yet , there is no information about restoration , so how come i don’t have such a thing except that destroyed buildings are being demolished and somewhere there, windows and heating systems are replaced, but they choose the houses that will be the least affected, for a small amount of money, you can make a high-quality picture and show that something is happening, well, in general , the situation is so cold, er, to warm people

there is not much access, someone is returning to pick up some things, someone is leaving to spend the winter in more comfortable conditions, there are a lot of military personnel . i think that today there are more military personnel in severodonetsk. of the russian federation , as far as i understand, there is no possibility to leave directly , but even here it is more about the fact that people leave north donetsk and stay in the occupied territories, just there more in the rear e-e directions, units are already leaving here. i see, you said that there is no access to electricity, heat, that’s all e-e . today, e-e, it’s definitely not about life under occupation in severodonetsk. and i wonder if there will be any access to mass media i understand that the stress tv channel is unlikely to be shown there, well at least maybe someone is there somehow. but is there any access to radio , television, news? do people live in a complete vacuum, get information only from those people who took

control of the city today, people live under propaganda the pressure is information that certain printed mass media have been restored there, something is being printed on the spot, something is being brought from luhansk , there is actually no communication, there is confirmed data that the mobile internet is disconnected, and in principle, about mobile communication there , it is difficult for the severodonetsk border in crimea to talk about something speak television only russian, in principle there is access to the internet in the more prosperous territories of luhansk oblast. it is possible to watch something, but specifically in north donetsk. i think there are very big problems with this. and please tell me what is today the situation with people's access to medical services. i may be asking a little naively, because i understand very well. what is the level of mortality, let's say, even among the people who live there, obviously no one will record which statistics we will not see

, as we still do not know the statistics of the dead, let's say how many people in mariupol is dying in mariupol right now, for example. yes, but is there any such thing as a fap or a pharmacy or a medical center? is there still such a thing at all ? is it only for my own or for those? maybe i don’t know if there is any. the wounded are taken from the nearest war zones from the front, tell me. well, there is some medicine there, but in reality all the large medical facilities work like military hospitals. in fact , the ambulance does not work . there is practically no access to medical services for civilians, because there are really no medi doctors there either, most of the medical personnel have left . there are also units left there. maybe there are a dozen or so 1.5 medical workers, that’s all. it’s either russian military medics or

medical workers are being recruited from the russian federation, but in under those conditions, i think it is almost impossible to provide some quality help with pharmacies and medicines, this is also the same situation, all the medicines are russian, the quality is unknown , the price is high, the range is very limited, i also want to ask, we are talking about mariupoli and the fact that there are many people who do not in general, under the rubble or even if the houses were destroyed there, so people, well, the bodies could have remained, or they were in the basements, let's say, or it was simply filled with concrete, well, actually, this issue is closed for now, while the city is under occupation, heavy fighting continued in north donetska which vysochansky understands that there may be a lot of dead soldiers and the army of the aggressor and the ukrainian army and the local population is there such a practice that bodies are found ?

the same story as with mariupol that it is already in the past , no one is interested there, even if there is something , it is already like that let it rot there already or excuse me or it will be under rubble somewhere, absolutely no one will look for it and will not try to identify in order to inform relatives and friends about this person, well, i do not have such detailed information on this topic . i think that even if there are such cases, they are not on the same scale as in mariupol. there were tens of hundreds of people there. i think such facts are not very many. there are many graves in the courtyards . we know that reburials took place. we know that the areas of such reburials in

cemeteries have increased. i think there are hundreds the number of graves is actually those people who died during hostilities were repackaged in relation to the military there, i think it is what international organizations are doing there, the red cross, or our ministry of reintegration and security services, i want to ask you, you know, quite often on facebook and there are friends and friends of friends, and when people from mariupol or there, let's say from avdiyivka or from bakhmut or from other cities or those cities that were under occupation or those cities where hostilities are going on, people sell some kind of sincere greetings to their city while staying for at the border of ukraine, they are doing something there for this, some communities are organizing we are from mariupol or something similar, is it possible to have more information about the residents who left north donetsk, or do they position themselves in some way, it was dangerous to understand, some stayed, some were zhdun, this is also no no no not so it's a big secret, so to speak, but there is still some group of people, is there any understanding? and where are the people who left , evacuated from north donetsk, and is it

somehow possible to keep in touch with them? well, it's global well, look, in luhansk oblast, in principle, the work on cooperation with displaced persons was organized quite well. in fact , in each oblast, we have a regional hub that provides humanitarian assistance to displaced persons, some kind of psychological, medical, and cooperation with international organizations in providing legal assistance. we help as much as possible there with the employment center works, people are accepted, therefore, in fact , we have such a center in each oblast of luhansk region where people can get some kind of help, we have a global base of people there who they need help, they show up. we communicate, there is a lot of information about the fact that there are businesses relaxing somewhere, some volunteers continue their activities , public activists also work, people open and transfer their small

businesses, a coffee shop has opened somewhere, maybe a beauty salon, that is, in principle such information is received, i don't think that it is concentrated somewhere, but i am saying that in each region, i am a cell where luhansk residents can communicate. was the most populated settlement and i think that uh, the most inhabitants of all. i think it is the dnipro, kyiv and zaporizhzhia. maybe also cherkasy and kropivnytskyi in this region. i think it is most populated by immigrants from luhansk region, well, in western ukraine, a little less. thank you very much , really, now for their city your city is under occupation, but this city remains in the hearts and it is important that the people will then return and rebuild their north donets region roman vlasenko was with us the head of the north donets district administration thank you very much take care roman mmm well it's always painful to talk about cities that are under the enemy's boot today, but in any case, its hope because there are people who love these cities

and armies that fight for these cities and will fight for them, well actually we came to the army today, another rammstein and in fact, there is much to talk about, because there is a lot of information, and he collected it and will now tell us in detail. my colleague serhiy zgurets , director of the defense express agency serhiy. congratulations, please. i congratulate you. what can ukraine get, will there be airplanes or will there be other weapons. more on that in a moment. so, another meeting of defense ministers in the rammstein format. we are actually used to such prestigious meetings at the level of the minister of defense. usually, up to 40 countries participate. this time there were 54 and more. indicates the expansion of such an anti-russian

coalition, defense minister oun austin said at the beginning of the meeting that this contact group clearly indicates that we continue to support ukraine for freedom in the long term at the beginning of the actual these were the words at the first press conference, he did not detail what exactly would be transferred to ukraine , and then there was already a final conference based on the results of the first day's work, and actually then autumn said that certain directions would be expanded and actually when he was asked about those things that were primarily of interest ukraine of journalists, in particular, regarding the airplanes. then he said that he is not ready to make any announcement regarding the airplanes. we continue to work on this issue, but first of all, we take into account those things that are of interest to ukraine in the short term in this sense. he said that we are now focusing on

the counteroffensive in the spring, we have a lot to work on. and in this context, he mentioned the systems that are currently being provided in the country, in particular , the bradley striker, these are combat vehicles infantry, mortars, art systems, etc. - this is what we expect to be presented in one or another format by other countries, and what is important , autumn stressed, is that it is necessary to create a complete picture from this weaponry in order to understand what ukraine already has everything it needs to move into the counteroffensive, lloyd austin was just talking about it. and what ukraine actually wanted the day before at the rammstein meeting, the minister of defense of ukraine reznikov announced about several areas that will be important, first of all, strengthening air defense at the expense of aviation equipment - this increasing the number of members of the so-called tank coalition and also the issue of providing the armed forces

with ammunition, speeding up logistics, that is, with those things that are urgently needed on the field today battle ensure the effectiveness of the functioning of those weapons that were transferred earlier and the functional functioning of the actual units that use these weapons, and in fact already according to the results of the first day, minister reznikov said that he heard clear messages from all representatives that there will be full support for ukraine until victory and all believe that this victory of ukraine should be on the battlefield, he also emphasized that all the participants really talked about the speed, timeliness and stability of aid to ukraine, but now we by the way, we see an interesting plot line in this rammstein, because the minister of defense varshikov showed a handkerchief and it shows the silhouettes of an airplane, in fact it is not an f16

, to be honest, it is a silhouette of a twin-engine aircraft that resembles, to be honest, a heavy su-27 fighter i think that it is unlikely that anyone will hand over the su-27 to us, but rather this hustinka is a symbol and an indication that the aviation issue will be partially resolved , because the day before ukraine actually made a request to the netherlands and slovakia regarding the aviation component in particular the netherlands now has a significant number of conventionally speaking redundant f16 planes, there are about 32 machines that are actually now being replaced by e in the modern f-35, so that’s why they say that when the netherlands received this request, the minister of defense of this country said about that that it prefers a closed discussion of this issue. and i think that just such a closed discussion will indeed be continued and will have

certain results. and when we talk about other aviation options, slovakia is also currently discussing the possibility of transferring ukraine has its own planes. it has a fighter and mig-29 sa - this is a certain modernized version, and slovakia is ready to transfer these planes for a certain payment from the european union , in turn, poland also evaluated its options with the transfer of the f16, but said that today e- these planes that it has in the polish army are not to be transferred to ukraine, but we return to the story that poland itself has a certain number of mig-29 fighters, which at one time it was going to transfer to ukraine, but at that time the position of the united states prevented it

except that actually these nuances affect the fact that the continuation of the aviation theme will really be and it will be either planes in the future or spare parts for those planes that are already used by the ukrainian army or versions of planes that are already actually within the power of ukrainian pilots, in particular about the same mig-29 from slovakia's second component is actually a tank component that was discussed in the past rammstein just the fate of the leopard tanks is quite revealing because it may resemble the story with airplanes because in the past rammstein which when it ended he was on such a certain pause that we actually won't get the leopards that were promised to us because we didn't want to hand them over, then the second or third day after rammstein. tanks and i think that such a model can be partially used in relation to the actual future aviation component, that the acquisition of aircraft from other countries

, returning to the tanks, then in fact to meet yesterday rammstein, today the minister of defense austin actually announced this tank battle eh in the leopard leopard variant, actually eight countries are ready to transfer leopard tanks, this is actually germany, poland-canada, portugal, spain, norway, denmark and the netherlands, actually, these countries have leopards in different versions and leopard one and leopard two in general, if we are talking about leopard 1, then it is known that this is the transfer can put 178 tanks leopard 1 when we talk about leopard 2 - this is 40 combat vehicles we also remember the challengers and the abrams which will arrive a little later but also at the rammstein meeting it was also mentioned that we remember that there are also 90 t-72 tanks that will be transferred

by the united states and the czech republic to the ukrainian army, that is, in fact, if we collect them into one pile, we can talk about the fact that already in march or a little later, at least in the second quarter of this year, we can say that from these tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, we can assemble clearly one id tank brigade or three mechanized brigades, which actually lead to such an armored fist that we need to carry out the counteroffensive actions that were mentioned representatives of washington, and we also remember that the training of the tankers has already begun, that they say that the process of mastering this western equipment is taking place, and this will ensure the transfer of these tanks already with prepared units, which will significantly shorten the terms of introducing these units into combat, also at the rammstein meeting again on the issue of air defense was raised, it was confirmed that the united

states and germany provide patriot complexes , germany also said that it would transfer several more launchers to the system aristei, which is already being used to fight against enemy targets in ukraine, france mentioned that spain really seems to be transferring an even more modern samp complex that is capable of fighting ballistic targets. so that these complexes do not stand idle, and actually another component is ammunition, because the secretary general of nato from toltenberg spoke about supplies. he said that there is a need to ensure the amount of ammunition which are spent in ukraine, and ammunition itself is such a new sign of waging war with the russian federation that a sufficiently large amount of it is spent. and now if

ammunition is ordered, it will have to be expected in 25 months, that is, not in a year, but in 25 months, that is, in fact, the question of expansion now arises capacities for the production of ammunition and this and this and this and this topic is just extremely relevant in order to ensure the production of a sufficient number of blanks, but you, we understand that the results of the field bracket and the fact that we we will receive new weapons from western countries, but it is no less important to manufacture our own weapons systems, because we have examples of modern ukrainian systems that are extremely necessary for the armed forces in larger quantities, here we can also mention unmanned systems and examples of electronic warfare systems and as an example by the way, i will mention the first ukrainian acs bohdan, which actually has a standard of 155 mm, it was actually

manufactured back in 2018, this system was precisely manufactured by the kramatorsk plant of heavy machine tool construction together with the kremenchug plant the automobile plant because bohdana's self-propelled guns were placed exactly on everyone at the same time, this self-propelled gun was used to, in particular , carry out strikes on snake island, and this was actually the first combat use of this system. after which both general zaluzhnye and the minister of defense said that this system would to be ordered serially, but by the way, it will be ordered not on the chassis together, but on the chassis of another manufacturer. so, what can the ukrainian defense industry do, why do such cases happen when powerful

enterprises just cannot let's say so and then by system enterprises to provide the ukrainian army, precisely as a variant of the manufacturer that provides the most powerful automobile systems, this is exactly what we will talk about on our broadcast with the general director of autocrash, roman chernyak, who was the director of this enterprise in 2012, in torment, mr. romany. i congratulate you. good evening, sir. sergey, i'm very glad to see you. we haven't met for a long time. that's why we started a difficult year. yes. trials are on the air today . i'm very glad to see you. please explain first of all the background history of the creation itself. sau bohdana why is this process taking so long, because the first test, if i’m not mistaken, was at the parade in 18th year, this car was shown, everyone was satisfied then, and then about four years went into the process of preparing for the test, only there, uh,

military actions pushed this a project for some kind of combat use, why did this happen? why is it all happening so slowly, you know, i won’t tell you for sure . it was 15-16 years ago that we and the kramatorsk plant started our initiative work to create uh, from this system, we did not receive any funding, no scientific and technical funding from the ministry of defense, we started the creation of this self-propelled gun , what did you understand, it is a four-door , fully protected armored cabin, it is at the level for today, there is a guard on the level of all the machines that are manufactured today, it passed the full cycle of testing. the full cycle is a test of all the glass , which they answer very well about, which was not

available in ukraine at all at the time. crew protection well, and the creation of the very sixth for this installation, we have been working since the 15th year. and you know, it was very busy because the machine was created in the shortest years , the shortest years, and then the briquette owner began, i wish that for this those who today hang orders on their shoulders on their chests answered the question. in the 18th year, the machine was ready for combat use , but there was no ammunition, top press - for that caliber, they were not stored at the right temperatures. well, there were a lot of questions and there were

there were a lot of people who created these obstacles, it's good that it all went so well and our car our car it was the only one that passed the entire complex of tests from the beginning from the creation of the design of the documentation to its coordination with the customer's representative to combat use at the same time, your enterprise developed a whole line of systems and samples of equipment that were offered to the armed forces. can you tell in more detail which samples were offered and how many were purchased and what was the interaction with the ministry of defense like in general, because i know that there were difficult moments about almost every sample, i know about every order sergey, if you start from the 14th year, then the company worked 57,507 tons with the ministry of defense, all of them without financing, i.e. for the working capital

of the enterprise itself and the shareholder, it is purely our money, starting well, i will say this: a water truck, five cubes, 10 cubes, a crane, an excavator, a car , a psycho-diagnostic complex, a car , a trailer, a car, a staff car, a trailer. i don't want to repeat the laundry bath, it's very, very 57 days, well, you understand, it's very seriously worked out, but you know, everything went very well somewhere from the year to the 17th, until our military learned to trade, when we were at war, when we had to protect the car, we were fifteen thousand to we gave 2,000 machines a year to the military, but when we learned our military commerce, then

studies began on our engines. no one knew what was on our engines. the mast entered service with the ministry of defense. hail no one knew what a bm-2 is, what a neptune is, we did all this without any , without any funding, without anything else, we worked purely for our own money, did this story with a bankrupt autocrat have an effect, or was it in some way a deterrent to understanding with our military no i will tell you that the situation was not the same , or the factor was that, at the time when we began to supply thousands of cars to the ministry of defense, the national guard , the border troops, our contracts, which were

from egypt, thailand, the emirates, we had cars which were built at that time for these countries, we simply crossed them out and gave them to our security agencies. so , something incredible began here. you see, i can’t explain anything. well, i can’t explain it. year, the bohdan enterprise is paid an advance of a billion hryvnias a billion hryvnias of an advance, and we are not paid for the delivered cars, then they tell us that there is no money , i think that i honestly put myself in my place, and i will analyze here who the money was,

but you understand, the team did everything during the theft and they did such a volume of work that today cannot boast of it, well, i'm sorry, the constitutional station won back, not the first 155 mm rockets , but the 122-mm howitzer, e-e rocket system of volley nu e-e penalties psychodiagnostic kitchens water trucks cranes engineering machines terrestrial machines everything was almost 60 tons and it turned out that we have something of that caliber, well, the white sun of the desert, it is the damn sun of the desert, and by the way, does it make any business sense to cooperate with the ministry of defense , because i, uh, you understand who with different directors and they talk about the fact that now there is such a scheme that when we purchase foreign weapons or equipment, we do not actually count the money. and when we order it from our own company, we actually twist our hands because there are restrictions on profitability in such conditions