[000:00:00;00] for a start, but i can also see what's going on with my colleagues from antinbarkivska, anna valevska. and on eva melnyk, there are still colleagues there, and i can't see them because i don't have access . obviously, i also need to become a sponsor of my own tv channel, on which i work and will watch because i'm interested. in fact, i'm not going to tell you myself when i'm leading, and they'll tell me to subscribe, so i advise you too . subscribe and others and these and other benefits to receive . thank you for being with us. what am i talking about ? until tomorrow until 19:00 i offer you a news release from my colleagues from by the ukrainian editorial office of bvc news good evening. we from ukraine welcome you on bbc news ukraine. olga palamaryuk works in the studio in london

and today we are talking about such ammunition, but not planes . what to expect from rammstein and why the united states does not attack. the president of moldova , sanda, accused russia of trying to commit coup d'état, the same data are available in ukrainian intelligence and mysterious flying objects over north america, who is whose and why are unanswered questions , and let's start with the situation at the front. bakhmut remains the main hot spot in the city are shelled dozens of times a day, and since yesterday, journalists have been banned from entering there, and in such a situation , more and more military analysts are wondering whether the armed forces of ukraine

will be able to hold back the bakhmuts at the same time as they launch a major spring counteroffensive, so the american edition of the washington post published an article in it , analysts write that russia's war against ukraine will reach a decisive moment if russia captures bakhmut - this will not lead to any strategic changes on the battlefield. this is how the newspaper writes with reference to one of representatives of the united states government, also according to the sources of the newspaper. the biden administration believes that the latest package of western aid gives kyiv the best chance to break the course of the conflict. kuzan, the head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation p. sergiu. i congratulate you

. well, i want to quote general mark milli. what is happening? what do you know? the bakhmut direction is definitely one of the priority directions for the russian federation and its co-occupation forces. indeed, they are trying to form our bakhmut fortress, but at the same time , our main forces are on the rise where our artillery is located and until the time when we we inflict significant losses on the occupiers . at this stage, until that time, of course, there is expediency in the defense of this border , that is, two tasks. today , our defenders of the bakhmut fortress are performing the first - this is as much as possible the offensive potential of kyiv and the second - for the minimal use of its resources . actually, as long as these tasks

are carried out, there is still sense . from a strategic point of view, isn't it better for the armed forces to withdraw from the city, or is it not being discussed at all? the fact is that of course only our command, our general staff, has information, and indeed the losses of the russians significantly and significantly outweigh our losses yes, indeed, the battle is really bloody, but the ukrainian army did not hold on and does not hold on to any population center, but exclusively acts in the interests of the destruction of the occupation forces in relation to the loss of the occupiers . of course, then, this place will be left. bakhmut fulfills its defensive defensive task until

then, of course there is a point in defeating this offensive wave of enemies . and can such a moment come? of course , because any well, just as we saw in soledar when the city was simply leveled with the ground artillery, and there are no longer exactly those positions that could be held and with the help of which our personnel could be protected . stage is given to protect the personnel well from enemy fire , so when soledar was destroyed , of course, our forces left there, as of now , bakhmut has not yet been destroyed. so, until then

, there are defensive buildings behind which you can hide our equipment, personnel. of course, it should be used, or otherwise, in the event that the supply routes are cut or blocked, at the moment there are, uh, there are several main routes for the supply of equipment , fuel, cartridges, precisely to bakhmut, so there is no such threat as of now understood. well, in a few minutes, we will continue our conversation, mr. sergey, stay in touch with us. in the meantime, we will talk about weapons , this is the issue. today, the number one topic in brussels is the defense ministers of the countries gathered there. nato, the traditional ministerial meeting of the alliance, however, the first item on the agenda is the so-called ramstein format, the contact group for the protection of ukraine and the coalition of states providing military aid to the country, so what did us defense minister lloyd austin once again confirm the commitment of nato allies to the idea of ​​an independent and sovereign ukraine defense minister oleksiy reznikov said that

they discussed the training of the ukrainian military, as well as how to ensure greater accountability regarding the accounting of weapons and in general , but tereznikov said that he was very satisfied according to the results of the meeting, it was a quote from nato secretary general stoltenberg advocated even greater support for ukraine, and most importantly, before russia can seize the initiative on the battlefield, and let's listen, we see no hints that president putin is preparing for reconciliation, on the contrary, he is preparing to intensify the war to of a new offensive of new attacks. therefore, it is very important that the nato alliance and partners provide more support to ukraine. today we are meeting with the american contact group regarding ukraine and we will prove to them that ukraine needs immediate support. in addition, the secretary general of nato said that the war in ukraine has turned into a logistical race, and russia and ukraine are facing huge problems in the delivery

of ammunition and weapons to the front line. stoldenberg claims that ukraine spends much more ammunition than nato countries produce , so the production of weapons it is necessary to increase and not only to help ukraine, but to replenish our own limited stocks , orders placed today will be delivered only in two and a half years. that's how said stoltenberg as bbc correspondent jonathan bill, they are continuing, he is now in brussels, nato secretary general jen stoltenberg made it clear what he wants to get from this meeting, namely that nato countries increase the production of ammunition, primarily artillery shells. he says that ukraine uses these artillery shells at a speed that is not corresponds to the pace of their production, in other words, it is difficult to ensure the level of their use in ukraine, therefore production needs to be increased in some

countries it is already being increased, but according to the head of the alliance needs to do more. it is interesting that jenstoltenberg and us defense minister lloyd austin both succeeded . the deadline is urgent. there is a feeling that this is a critical time because there are signs that russia is preparing, if not already, to launch new intensified offensives against ukraine, and this window is when ukraine needs and the weapons promised to the west by nato members , including tanks, but the main thing is artillery shells, and it must be remembered that it is not just about artillery shells for ukraine , nato is concerned with its own reserves because the alliance is spending its own stocks of ammunition to help ukraine, and they also need to be renewed. so the number one message that came out at this conference is that the nato countries must respond appropriately to this challenge, first of all they must increase

the production of ammunition. nato is really exposing its own rear by providing weapons to ukraine. and here it must be said that for continental europe and for britain, of course, russia was and remains the main threat and source such threats because the russian proxy or the forces that russia supports around the world. well, actually speaking, without the support of russia , through indirect participation, they do not pose as much of such a threat. therefore , today ukraine is actually overcoming the biggest threat to the entire nato bloc, moreover, ukraine on takes on the function for which, in fact, this nato bloc was created, i.e. opposition to the soviet union, so today we alone oppose the succession of

the soviet union, the russian federation . of course, without the help of western countries, without equipment without weapons to do this of course, it is impossible, it is simply impossible, it is simply accumulated for tens of years, well, stocks of military equipment. and i have these shells, so here they are. in this plan, nato countries do not actually expose their security sector, on the contrary, today they invest in regional security. well, returning to the topic rammstein had many announcements, but what are your conclusions, are you satisfied with the results of today's meeting? i think that we need to consider this rammstein meeting as a complex. we will soon let's see the continuation of these negotiations, in fact, in the format of the munich conference and then in the format of the g7 and finally

. i think that it is president biden in poland on the 21st who will announce not only positive decisions on behalf of the american people, but also in general from the coalition of western allies. i am sure that these decisions will be fateful and decisive in this war, well, in addition, we heard today that they demand greater accountability from ukraine in the use of weapons , this information surprised you and what does this mean, this is greater accountability absolutely no, by the way, this is a declaration by ukraine itself of all our donors of military aid, they all receive full and comprehensive information about the use of all aid . that is why it is only positive. well, the last week seemed to be turbulent for moldova

. the prime minister resigned for the first time . the security dimension will be one of the priorities , and all this for a reason. last week, during a visit to brussels, president zelensky warned that the kremlin is preparing a coup d'état to moldova . they say that ukrainian intelligence officers received a russian document detailing the action and explaining who and when plans to establish control over the authorities in chisinau and in the same the information was confirmed by the president herself, sandu said, according to her, the kremlin's plan involves sabotage involving persons with military training disguised as civilians, as if they are planning violent actions, including attacks on some state institutions and the taking of hostages this is what the president of moldova said well, today moldova closed its airspace for several hours, this decision was made for security purposes this is what the air

moldova airline company wrote on its page well, we will ask our guest with us about everything on the link of the expert center for defense strategies and diplomat oleksandr khara . i welcome you to the broadcast of the evening. the first question is , what were the reasons for such a sudden closure of the airspace? well, you know. it is possible to draw a parallelism in which way on february 24, 2022 , the large-scale invasion of the russian federation of ukraine began, they tried to capture the airfield and gostomel vasylkiv in order to land the air force and provide a bridgehead for the capture of the capital of ukraine. said that transnistria was preparing something against the actual integrity of moldova and the surmite, and then there was a statement by the minister of foreign affairs of the russian

federation when he threatened moldova that it will become the second ukraine, of course, what is this diplomatic covert threat to use weapons against moldova? well, of course, what the ukrainian president said to the president about the prime minister of moldova, that there is a plan, i'm sure that uh, let's say that's how plans were developed in i don't know if they have been launched and we must remember that in russia this is a favorite method and in 2014, the seizure of crimea, the illegal annexation of the ukrainian peninsula and then the so-called dpr of the lpr, which is a proxy force, and by the way , militants were brought from transnistria to the territory before everything odesa and then also the eastern regions of ukraine, and even there they headed certain positions in the so-called dpr of the lpr, and i also want to remind you that in 2016, montenegro attempted a coup where the russian special services were involved, and i will probably remember kosovo last week. last week

, the president of kosovo spoke about what are the wagnerites russian mercenaries, who are of course controlled by the russian special services , are trying to smuggle weapons into the territory of kosovo in order to, with the help of, including serbian militants, the so-called polite little men to start destabilizing the situation in the balkans, therefore it is absolutely clear that russia is interested in ordering moldova for its desire to be pro-european and talks about the possibility of joining the north atlantic alliance and definitely opening another front or outside of ukraine to destabilize the ukrainian south because odessa is nearby odessa is the largest port where does it come from e grain to the world markets and which actually saves a large number of countries from the food crisis, therefore moscow is interested in expanding the

scope of the conflict and in order to have the opportunity to influence the europeans on their disunity in supporting ukraine, well, you handed me over because i wanted to ask the kremlin why the coup d'état , the massive missile attack on ukraine, the essay , russian missiles flew through the airspace of moldova, then the official chisinau - acknowledged this and expressed concern about in your opinion, was such a reaction sufficient ? well, you know that moldova is not a powerful military state, unfortunately it is not a member of the eu and nato, and therefore definitely limited their possibilities of how to react. the ambassador of the russian federation was called so that, well, in fact, you are being diplomatic, but of course it cannot act on the kremlin, which, in principle , believes that the only legitimate sovereigns on the whole earth are the russian federation , the people's republic of china and the united

states, all others have limited sovereignty , especially those the republics that were once there under soviet oppression, they have no right at all to exist there somehow, they are just temporary, so i enjoy independence and by the way, those frozen conflicts that existed before 2014 in the post-soviet space, first of all, it is transnistria, where russia is illegal despite the decision of istanbul. this is where the russian armed forces and weapons are located in 1999 , as well as abkhazia. the southern session is temporarily occupied by the russian federation. these republics, and in fact, they used the separatist tendencies present there in order to hold onto these territories so that they would not distance themselves from russian influence, yes, and i would like more

to go back to russia's attempts to destabilize the situation, how much power does russia have in general, is there such a thing to do operations, it is definitely not , if you look at the map, transnistria is where russia has the greatest influence and where there is actually power and means that can destabilize something, it is squeezed by ukraine and moldova . destabilization in order to later, well, you know how traditional it is to protect russian-speaking russian citizens of russia, and of course it will be difficult to do something, taking into account that russia is still a nuclear power, but in any case, now is not the time considering that the devil is not a thick sea and

er, those storms that are bad weather there now. they do not give the opportunity to do anything serious. and especially since romania is nearby, we certainly have ukraine, which will also react to this. to the ukrainian island of serpentine and in order to conditionally show the ability of the russians to operate there and certainly deprive ukraine of certain radio technical capabilities to monitor this space, let's say so, from the point of view of creating obstacles to free navigation and in particular this grain corridor and also in order to be able to use this blind zone in order to send certain door groups there or some others that destabilized the situation towards moldova and towards ukraine thank you thank you for the conversations this was

the expert center for the defense of the diplomato strategy oleksandr harara, the armed forces of the united states shot down four aerial objects in the sky of north america this month, the purpose of which is puzzling the entire investigative apparatus of the world's largest superpower , the day before there was news about the latest downed mysterious object, the third in the last three days, now the tow truck crews collect their wreckage with the help of boats and submersibles, all objects are very different in shape, but each is equipped with antennas , solar batteries and equipment for monitoring what data they actually have collected all this question without an answer, not the pentagon, i suspect that it was a chinese surveillance device, simply put, a spy in the dead, they recognized the bullet as theirs, but they continue to insist that it is a device for monitoring the weather well, which just got lost in the sky, shed light on the true purpose of mysterious objects, can their wreckage, but they still

need to be found, and while the search continues , there are versions about the extraterrestrial origin of the findings, bbc correspondents have collected everything that is known about them, this is the footage of the operation to transport the balloon that the american military shot down at the beginning of the month, here you can see how the bullet is being loaded onto a ship near south carolina, the american authorities said that with its help, china was tracking important military objects, but they replied that it was an ordinary meteorological platform that simply went off course, what this bullet was actually used for will become clear after a detailed examination of the electronic devices attached to it, but in relation to the three other objects that were shot down in canada, in the american states of alaska and michuga last weekend, such there are no clues, only that they are smaller in size, one of them is octagonal in shape and had ropes hanging from it, no they say in the white house

it is not what you think i know you have questions and concerns but i repeat no signs of aliens or extraterrestrial activity in these objects there are no objects, yes, i also like the movie another planetaryan, but these are different things, the press service of the white house is joking, of course, but why was it necessary to shoot down an object in the sky, and you have no idea that we have no evidence that at least one of these three objects spied on we we cannot rule it out, therefore it is better to play it safe in view of the protection of our national security interests. the us authorities assure that after they shot down the chinese balloon, they began to monitor their airspace more carefully, and that is why they managed to discover objects that could have remained unnoticed, this is even more gold spoiled the already difficult relations between the united states and china in washington claim that beijing launched such

spy balloons over more than 40 countries on five continents china assures that they also recorded in there are american balloons in its sky, but washington is denying the search for the wreckage of this balloon and three other still unidentified objects, while the tension in relations with china is only growing . well, let's try to figure it all out together with my colleague, a journalist from the voice of america, mykhailo komadovsky congratulations to my colleague , this is what they say in the united states, this is how flying objects are perceived, because it reminds me , the bullet was talking at first, it is unlikely that they gathered any important information that would not have been there before known to the chinese military. well, now olga vitaenov, the detection of the first balloon really led to the fact that the american military began to send a column to check the sky in search of other objects that were not

detected by radar, which led to a truly unprecedented three downed objects. by sunday in the us administration and the pentagon, and this is important, they separate the first case with the chinese ball and the other three by unknown objects. and in fact, such wording is used by the actual ball and objects of unknown volume. in the administration, so far that do not undertake to give an assessment about the origin of these objects, but they say that there is currently no evidence that the last three objects are connected with the people's republic of china , the only thing they agree on is, in fact, what is with the aliens and these objects are not related and so the theory about uh really about the extraterrestrial origin of these objects was such a hit on twitter ah users are really in full seriousness talking about the fact that this theory really has a chance to exist, well, as for the chinese balloon is the military

reported on the results of the operation to remove his links from the northern command of the armed forces of the united states said that the crew managed to remove a significant amount of debris from the scene , including all priority sensors and electronic elements. indeed, the investigation in this case continues, well, at the same time , we recall that the first bullet was shot down not immediately and why this is really a question that has been asked many times here in the united states of america as it turned out that the north american aerospace defense command, which is called in english norad, controlled their flights ah, actually, every second, the president, as it turned out, was constantly receiving briefings from his group on national security, and then, when the first object was actually over the water in south carolina, the president gave the order to shoot down this balloon, and actually its fragments landed over the ocean between by two

north and south carolinas and actually the threat to the civilian population was a really huge factor here so really this decision was not made immediately but there were no casualties right yes uhu well and the most important thing is how these flying bullets can affect the already uneasy relationship between the united states and china already affected this episode really strained relations between washington and beijing because of which i remind secretary of state anthony blinking postponed his trip to china and the military and the biden administration admitted that much about the latest drones remain unknown, including how they are kept in the air, who built them, did they manage to gather some information, but despite this , it is worth emphasizing blinkin’s trip to beijing they did not cancel it, but moved it there, well, we can conclude that washington leaves a certain

space for negotiations , we will follow this, we will also follow thank you for the conversation , voice of america journalists were with us, we had a connection from washington, to everyone who watched this conversation and not only, i advise you to subscribe to our youtube channel, if you haven't done so yet, comment, we always read all the comments and that's all for today, look for more stories on our bbc ua website and on our social media pages. and we'll be on the air again tomorrow at 9:00 p.m.

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