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[000:00:00;00] to change, that is, many units are still waiting for a replacement thank you yes, thank you very much for joining us and telling us about the situation in the bakhmut direction, uh, i wish you stability yevgen ropaye - the company commander of the svoboda battalion, a lieutenant of the national guard of ukraine tuned in to us live and talked about the situation on to the bakhmut direction well , in the end, i traditionally encourage you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda in social networks on instagram telegram facebook twitter like this broadcast svoboda life will be back on the air tomorrow let's listen to people who suffer from rheumatism. it's arthritic, it's impossible to get used to it, it doesn't allow you to move. i've tried everything. and at the pharmacy, i bought a yellow dolgit cream. it saves
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help from our weapons - from our partners of the member countries of the north atlantic alliance and also the countries of the european union 40 countries participate in the rammst rammstein coalition today the meeting has already started a little later i will give the opportunity to listen to the head of pentagonol and daostin what he said on the eve of the meeting well and also veteri espresso in the evening we will demo an opportunity to hear e-e information from the members of rammstein based on the results of this meeting, i will ask you, first of all, to join us in supporting us on e-e different platforms in youtube telegram instagram facebook well, what other platforms are there in social networks, please subscribe like and spread comment also like spread comment on this video it is important in the context of information confrontation enemy aggression informing the population and , so to speak, developing a view of the real picture an adequate picture of what is happening in us he is an interesting guest we will talk about
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important matters er about important things about important matters evgeny magde is with us, the director of the institute of world politics, yevgeny i congratulate you, i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well , ivan stupak is also with us, he is a military expert, an employee of the security service of ukraine in the fourth 15th years p. ivan i congratulate you. i named the topic christ's campaign in europe . well, of course, we are talking about the campaign against the russian empire. i would like to start by asking a question so that we can enter into this discussion, so to speak. what do you think? putin and his aggression did not wake up the fairly calm europeans who lived their lives and i hope that this life will be stable and clear . it is clear to say that somewhere someone was woken up and someone is still sleeping. i think this will be the most accurate
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definition of unprovoked russian aggression demonstrated to the world that ukrainians are not a nation of peaceful greeks, but are primarily a nation of warriors. this is the thesis. i would say that imperial russian propaganda, well, from the 18th to the 19th centuries exterminated ukrainians, although it was confirmed during any war from the crimea to the first and the second world war. i think that somewhere such a spirit was awakened in poland, the spirit that we know from sienkiewicz's novels. it is possible that such a spirit was awakened somewhere in other countries, but i , for example, do not see the spirit of prussian militarism
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, against which the world fought after the first of the second world war, that is, we have to realize that russia went on movements that turned out to be the personification of its own stereotypes, both in relation to ukraine and in relation to other countries , europe first of all and the united states too , and that is, you can say that the association which in russia is called a collective action to say the fact that during the last year the whole of europe has turned upside down, i still won't risk it, mr. ivan. what do you think, is the spirit of the crusaders, because this is probably the most unifying phenomenon for europe? times between the middle ages and the renaissance, which certainly characterizes europeans precisely as warriors. well, there you can talk about the reasons for the crusades, they were various from economic to political, religious, but the point remains that these were campaigns in which the english and germans, the french and
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spaniards, whoever was there. that's why i united it thematically and called it christ's campaign against against the russian empire. do you think that this war did start to awaken the spirit of the soldiers and the spirit of war in the europeans themselves? free them from these ideas that are so calm. and i would say bourgeois ideas and visions of life and the world and the transition to the status of warriors, please, well, the question is cool , really so philosophical, and i agree with mr. yevgeny. well, not yet. i really do not see such of the great crusade so that all of us are against the russians, we are moving to the last for now. for the most part, i see that some of the countries are european, they are under external coercion. well , there, under the coercion of ukraine, they can no longer pretend that there is nothing, they
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forced to move in a general format. they may have considered it traditional to take a neutral position somewhere and go somewhere, turn on the back there, yes, as they say, yes, the slang there is not to spoil relations with the russian federation, well, the internal russian federation is also a lot of money there naftogaz dollars, they constantly bought russians in europe when they arrived, they just robbed the most boutiques there, chanel pravda , gucci mercedes, by the way, they just took them out there in echelons, and they played it, played it , warmed up the european economy, and many liked it. but now i see the picture of the whole universe like this for me. this is when europeans begin to abandon pacifist attitudes. when we are the children of this planet. yes, we must live in harmony with this planet with all our neighbors. friendship is chewing
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gum. well, at least now, thanks to the fact that they are giving up russian oil and gas resources, this allows them to be a little more independent in making their decisions. rural gas, and only when before the new year did they begin to completely reduce this dependence to zero, and in germany immediately something like this movement begins there, let us transfer tanks to the ukrainians there, some other equipment, that is , little by little, but well, this movement is not very inertial, that is, whatever a certain period of time when the germans can stop and say everything , you know. we stopped. that's where our help ends, that is, there really is no such militarism as there was, remember, 150 years ago, the germans, but fear for the whole of europe the franco-prussian war, the first world war, the second world war, and now the germans are all of them, this history is military in them, it is stopped. yes, and they try as much as possible to distance themselves from
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no-no war, leopards, tanks on the eastern front against the russians, no-no, this is a nightmare, a nightmare , so let's not mention it about that, well, but we mentioned it, now we will listen to some interesting comments, so to speak, from one camp and from the other camp, in the first we will listen to lloyd austin, today started with a meeting in the rammstein format and the day before the meeting the head of the pentagon e-e said important words let us listen to them no country could achieve everything alone but together we managed to add more than 50 billion in financial aid to ukraine since the beginning of the full-scale invasion last year and we see how much all our help really matters usa germany the netherlands cooperates together to provide the patriot air defense systems and france also provides air defenses of another type, as well as concerts of countries
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including germany, poland, canada, portugal spain, norway, denmark and the netherlands are working together to provide ukraine with leopard battle tanks in order to provide a more powerful military military power , together we provide more than 972 tanks and this is a very significant number. countries in order to provide ukraine with more ammunition for its defense, you know what is important in these words. he said about more than 50 billion in aid, tanks, artillery, howitzers , armored vehicles, and automatic weapons, well, plus they are coming there is a lot of help that is not even mentioned, but it is also mortars, shells, well, that is, all this comes to ukraine and this war becomes so big and costly
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, financial in human resources, first of all, because ukrainians pay with their lives, of course, thousands of lives, but foreigners pay with their lives volunteers who are also fighting in ukraine , maybe they are, well, it’s impossible , of course, there are not as many of them as ukrainians, but they don’t die either, and this war is growing so much and how powerful it is becoming that the question already arises whether to which scale, it can grow and is there still a possibility to put it out? is it already such a fire, you know what’s going on here already, well, if it is not possible to put it out , it’s not particularly successful, this fire is devouring bigger and bigger in your opinion. everything in front of europe, we are going to talk today not about ukraine, but specifically about europe, a phenomenon , well, nato is not only europe, of course, but we are talking about nato and europe as a phenomenon, to a greater extent about its war, because it is also a participation in the war in one way or another or what the goal is today europe should still try to put out this war, or is this daughter already, while this fire is fire-fighting as much as possible because it has a donation and then, as they say, build
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a new life on these ruins, you know , there was no such war in europe after the second world war, and there was no such war in the world in the 21st century, these are things that are quite obvious, and that's why we can talk about the fact that europe was preparing well , actually, no, and well, as for me, in my opinion, when people have a conscious choice to fight or not to fight, far from everyone makes a choice in favor of war and that's normal that is, not all are even patriotic and i would say conscious citizens of any state, they are ready to fight
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, especially in the modern world, especially with such a monster as russia . we have to understand one thing . there was no choice, we saw everyday life, we saw in mariupol, we saw from the raisin that there is no choice, in fact, ukraine did not have and will not have a choice in the future, we must protect our territorial integrity, fight for its restoration, and in the end, ukraine showed and to its neighbors in europe and the whole world that it is capable of defending itself with weapons in its hands and doing it effectively
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enough . what's the point if a year ago almost the entire west was convinced that ukraine would fall apart under the blows of russian troops and this belief was constantly sounded , now ukraine has proven its own subjectivity, this is also a challenge for us. how is it not paradoxical sounds because we have to be a country that creates positive trends and does not rely exclusively on military force because you know how to play temptation. and with muscles, it is serious enough and, i would say, noticeable, including in ukrainian society. but we
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must all work together to prove that this war is not global, it is powerful, it is large-scale, but it is not global, russia does not have a coalition to support it, we see that the chinese may somehow be twitchy in some issues, primarily issues of their own benefit , we see that india is the same, but to say what is coalition, what are some anti-rammstein, which, if there is rammstein on the side of ukraine, then there is no format on the side of russia, dear, you understand, there is only support from belarus and some separate votes from nicaragua , syria, north korea. well, you know, god forbid it will live to be supported by north korea well, by the way, dear, you poked russia so cool, of course , rammstein vs. dear
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, i don't mean musical groups. yes, well, in lyubartsy, of course, it is possible, now putin is scratching his head, think about it, we need to make a coalition in lyubartsy, i will gather, that means iran , north korea, we will consult, ivan do you know such a question, i still ask a representative of the special service, representatives of the former special services do not exist, and i want to ask putin was very actively preparing europe before the war by its agency and propaganda and the work of business in europe and the work of agents of influence who were, but despite all this , europe was able to clean itself and continues to clean itself, obviously, from russian money from russian agents of influence from russian television, first of all, why, in your opinion, did putin not succeed in buying and convincing europe precisely with his agency and financial influences and making it safe for himself? we remember his speech last night on february 24, when he told us that a decision had been made, which means i
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that's all, and i don't advise anyone there. well, i will also give my word to stand up for ukraine because they will be punished and so on . he was scared, but he was not scared. why did the russian special services lose in this battle for the neutrality of europe? i would say so, let's go. let's start with money, money is a great question, it's an accompaniment, money is really such a triangular stone to everything that happens in the world. well, it's easier to solve a lot of things, but not everything, and the rest of the issues, a large number of issues are solved by access to resources, and that's how money , the russians showered europe with money, questions no, they bought private jets , they bought cars, they bought estates, enterprises, they poured money into public organizations, and around the political organization some political parties financed, but here
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the first side is interesting. part of this money, if they were directly aimed at a political goal. yes, the russian government is there, there is a conditional one, there sits patrushek from bortnikov as the director of the fsb, think about it. yes, we will buy these here , the channel has been created, yes, they will broadcast here , and those there, whom they say that litinformatsiyu to gnatdom yes they chase information, and part of this money, if it was based on political signs, it’s banal , it’s swindled, yes, well, there’s the generalship of the fsb there. and in the end it reached the bottom, well, let's say it's not a super-super big amount , but according to the reports, it was fantastic money there, and do you remember this, here's the story when, uh, the caucasian captive woman, yes, she threw three portions of shish kebab into the abyss, yes, here are the posts for you
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a standard story about any state body of the russian federation, unfortunately for ukraine, too, until the last moment, there was a lot of it there to add there to give scope yes, they did so much and they wrote the scope is the same great art. to write a large report so that then the manager who read it, no, uh- in how are you? that is, it is really an art, and secondly, europeans, not all europeans are sold for money, look, yes, there is a former minister , yes , there are europeans who are there with putin. they show that there is a middle eastern sheik sitting there. he has a watch there and one and a half million dollars. yes, there is a gold cube there . there is no such thing as a rolls-royce. yes, there is still corruption, but it is on a micro scale compared to russia he has
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a $200 watch by the federation of european politicians. no, for $200, the watch means that something is not clean, that is, some special services, for example, austria, i give you an example. austria is a country that has a low tolerance for the activities of special services of foreign countries in its state. what does the austrian government think? other countries are conducting activities in vienna , salzburg, and other cities, and this activity is not aimed at harming austria, well, the country of austria. they spend well, what do we do, work, but when it hurts austria, then hmm, then there will be a reaction, and here is a free one, for example, turned into the capital of world espionage, when , for example, the diplomatic base of russia in austria, it has 200 people, 200 people, yes,
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the politicians know the part there, the diplomats know there literally a dozen, two dozen people, the rest, who are these people, what do they do, no one knows . and this is this, this is this, this is a ball. yes, he created an idea from putin that they bought here , they included the art of rush, there, something else, and here our special services are working and everything europe will fall apart, there is no single body, everyone is there, hungary is alone in britain , the germans are generally concerned about brexit, the french are only about more chatter, and the impression was created that everything will be fine, everything will be okay, no one will stand against the russian federation, but you see how i miscalculated, you know, really any spirit, how i once communicated . by the way, i will now explain better. i once communicated with the former ambassador of ukraine in the republic of austria and i asked where in austria so much money comes from, in principle. well
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a rich country, one of the richest in europe, possibly after germany . well, for sure, he also said that austria-hungary was an empire and had huge profits from its various dominions, so to speak, this money was not distributed anywhere , that is, what was accumulated, relatively speaking, to the poor once it all remained like what was accumulated by london once it basically all remained and that's why he also never got into the spirit of the past that was in europe, you know how in charles decosterov's legend about linspiegel, what kind of ashes are bubbling in mine is beating in my chest and this ash of the class continues to beat in the chest, maybe the europeans just didn't feel it, finally they felt it was touched, i think the string is an attempt to humiliate them to show that they are not incapable and incapable well, for sure, ukrainian heroism sacrifice some incredible desperation of our army of our people , at least not the ducks of its representatives
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, she carried out the same thing on europeans and in their villages, they have this spirit. a political scientist or not, who is the politician who said about the course of the war a very interesting phrase to understand, and we will then push away from it and move on , let's listen to markov, he already told me a little more that we are forced to wage war or as a special operation, the specialization is practically about mine . here we are, yes well, they asked for a war, but we show it to everyone. so the plane is completely donated to the air where they give me peace in the enemy's territory. i release a couple of rockets there to beat them, they go back and that's it, eh, eh so, eh, a lot of artillery, yes, we can shoot our shit seriously enough, who 19 hit, well, actually, markov made it clear that now it is necessary either a very big war or very big sacrifices, or to stop this war, because
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what happened is not what mr. yevhen thought in front of you the question is, what kind of help will ukraine receive and is still receiving today , as a result of rammstein's results, what should motivate russia in this situation to move on? and we know that some secret negotiations seem to be taking place behind putin's back or from his submission to somehow agree on the end of the war if so, he agreed or not , i don't know, but what do you think should motivate russia to move on, realizing that this can only be an even more war, less it will already become now can't well, russia is primarily motivated by its imperial consciousness. we somehow should not reject the fact that in fact
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there may be absolutely no fewer people who want to defend the empire than there are those who want to defend democracy, and in quantitative terms there may be no more at all forget what the russian imperial tradition is long enough, and we sometimes feel some masochistic lectures about the fact that the restoration of ukrainian independence only took more than a little more than more than 30 years. well , poland, forgive me, also experienced several divisions of poland, and germany and italy in their current form were established only in the last third of the xix century, you heard that politicians from these countries publicly beat themselves up and said, well, we are so worthless, we are so unhappy because the rhineland -palatinate is not like bavaria and sardinia is not
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like lombardy. i personally have not heard and we do not should say such things, it does not mean that ukraine has er well, to be in everyone, so to speak, to remind teterukan tokovishchi and say that here we all are, here we er, everything has already solved all its tasks, no, ukraine is in the modern world, which is not easy, but much more humanistic than, say, the world of the 20th century, its citizens proved with weapons in their hands that it is not accidental and its statehood is not accidental . who else
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? reasons for some kind of inferiority complex . we have shown ours, and we will continue to show it as best we can. and you can help us, and ukraine must correctly formulate a message to its western partners, not just say that we protect you, this does not always work , you have to try to get into their brains and talk about things that are understandable in different languages levels
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to different people who have approximately the same education system and for example it is not easy to say all ukraine is wonderful, but to say that in this battle of good and evil that is taking place on ukrainian lands today, ukraine is the personification of good because russia personifies absolute evil and examples of this times two three and you have an opportunity to be on the side of good, because you are democratic , developed and progressive, and we have to cooperate with you accordingly, and we take on a significant burden. and you help us , that is, we need your subjectivity as much as possible. if you want to declare and not just stand somewhere in a corner worrying that something is wrong with us , well, comprehensively, it is really worth it for ukrainians to get rid of it already and try to all people who
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have positions in, so to speak, influencing the consciousness of opinion leaders the intelligentsia, first of all, scientists, politicians, philosophers, writers. well, even though they were not respected in ukraine for a long time. and the philosophers were angry, it was unclear what they were for. i remember when i even finished school, they were there in the mid-90s and when i said that i wanted apply to everyone asked me what it is, why is it necessary, how are you going to eat from it? well, i didn’t enroll in the philosophical , the philological, but that’s not the point, and philosophers , writers, for a long time in ukraine, it was some kind of phenomenon that exists, but no one it is interesting that they did not form a sense, so now it is very important to form a sense and remind ukrainians of what they should be proud of. now, here is the continuation of the cheeses, yevgeny, we have the opportunity to listen to jens stoldenberg briefly, what he said yesterday on the eve of ramstein, this is very
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