[000:00:00;00] er, when it comes to aviation, now we are there, so far these discussions are going on, they are quite difficult, and ihor has already mentioned that, in principle, is it possible for these f2s, or is it impossible , can you explain to us in more detail somehow this situation with the aviation, well, what do we really need, uh, do we really need this aviation, well, the new generation of f2 ? what is it? this is because , well, i also hear this. and this will solve the problem. well, not quite. maybe yes. or quite. well, that is explain this situation, our aviation is currently represented by several positions , uh, attack aviation - this is the su-25, for 40-50 years of the aircraft, and the 124 bomber aviation, for

40-50 years of the aircraft, and the interceptors will be destroyed , this is the same with the mig-29 and su-27 is also 40 years old. and this plane is not modernized. all the weapons on these planes are old soviet eh. even before the tsar, the opanka produced by our planes is allowed to be the same interceptor. they are fighters in order to beat any enemy aircraft. they must work with old r-27 and r-73 missiles, these are polo active homing heads that do not need to illuminate the enemy’s plane constantly, that is, our plane is like a new year’s tree . the means of defeat that the enemy already has are the new planes

that they produced in this millennium, this is the su-304 35, they have new vionics, and new systems for defeating missiles much further away and rockets of the level released by the forgotten, that is, with with active warheads, the missile goes by itself, and behind the plane, that is, we are at least a head lower than the russian planes, therefore, in principle, we have a lot of noise from aviation as such that it works mainly the anti-aircraft defense system is working, the anti-aircraft missile project is somehow trying to cover up, which is somehow trying to cover up our sky of aviation, if it works, it works on them for maneuvering purposes, let’s say on the same missiles , yes, it works well on rockets on shakets, but however, this is not enough, and the mechanism that is needed, and even more so

in the offensive , there is nothing in the defense. with the help of our aviation, and it is not yet visible, that is, the ones we have now are definitely not suitable, any of them , again, from the last millennium, the same moment 29,129 that can be transferred to us, it will also not be suitable for these tasks, it will be guards destroyed by the enemy, this is clearly because without new aircraft of the f16 type, we will allow this task to be carried out, it means that our ground units will be left without cover from the air in the offensive, and they are pulling powerful anti-aircraft defense systems behind them, this is not magpies, it will definitely not be completed it is impossible to get some airplanes, and they go for many kilometers, that is, they work with a large number of russians, because without aviation, it will definitely be

a big problem of lag, and definitely edible equipment even if it was accepted yesterday at ramstein, we received the equipment to die, that is, three months is the minimum , and then nothing, and further from 3 months to six months , the preparation of the tokalet composition is not read already , the technical engineer, because here there are unambiguous problems in aviation, we need to in order to completely switch to new types of aircraft, about 200 aircraft are needed , that is, why exactly f16 and they are available, more than 4,000 of them were produced, and in principle, two hundred aircraft could be found, how to find any the second plane of such a quantity simply does not exist in nature, non-crested ones, not the same, even typhoons, 6 hundred something, but they are the main plane in european countries, even the french rafale is also a little more than 200

, that is, in principle, except for 16- not one plane will be enough for us, but we need one. how am i? well, not a minimum of uh, nominally about 200 units, uh, because there is so much big work ahead of us, and independence from that when we destroy the russian army, either this month either in six months or in an hour we will still need to change to this new components of the aviation component and since ours is completely already from the last millennium and it cannot be used in this ugh, i understood literally briefly and because i want let's talk now about our one guest. but until i add him , say literally three words. they say that it takes three years to train pilots for the f16.

how many more do you estimate? pilots need to learn to sit there at least in the first 10 or 12 or 16 years that they can give there. one day , a first-class fighter pilot of the second class can retrain for any fighter in the world in three to six months , depending on the tasks. let's add it yuriy fedorenko company commander of the achilles attack unmanned aviation complexes of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade named after the basket chieftain ivan sirka - deputy of the kyiv city council e-e greetings yuriy i understand that you are somewhere right in the area of our front, uh, crime is there somewhere, these are in this place, yes, i understand everything correctly. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes , the matchmaking direction and tell us this , uh, there is well, there is such information somewhere that the russians have brought a lot of forces there. that

's all there somehow they got together, they are attacking and so on, how do you assess it, that is, what specific forces did the russians pull up, and secondly , what are they using there now, in principle, what do you see how they use as a tactic offensive assault groups? is it somehow different, how exactly battles are taking place now because, well, there is very little information so far, so from you the actual mobilization process of the russian federation has been going on for almost a year, and for this there was preparation, accordingly, at the expense of this personnel potential, the enemy partially replenished its losses in the regular military unit, what are they, and the connections that refers to the direction , carries out shock and assault actions every day, trying to identify the weakest place in the defense in order to concentrate the main blow of such

a place there, the enemy did not succeed as of today to detect or obtain, respectively, there are positive gains in the past week in the de-occupation of populated areas, for example, like us in veshelivsk, when the armed forces of ukraine 92nd mechanized brigade deo bought, entrenched themselves in positions and put , to date, these positions are held increasing artillery means, including rocket fire, also increasing the number of personnel against, of course, trying to identify this weak point in order to concentrate there the maximum number of personnel to cover it with armored vehicles, but in many situations it is possible to act in advance , understanding the intentions of the enemy, understanding the priority directions for him , from where he will advance against them , it turns out due to these existing plants of fire means, including drones , the impression is made by fire and thus to for example, three enemy strike groups were destroyed, which gathered in the concentration area , the concentration area for the civilian population

, which was clear from where it should have started to start offensive actions on a short section of the front, including intentions to repulse the enemy in the settlement of novoselivsk, teams of the 92nd mechanized brigade were discovered and were also destroyed against them in the concentration area, that is, battles continue daily, unfortunately, front-line cities such as kupyan are under fire the influence of the enemy, but at the same time the initiative is completely on the side of the armed forces of ukraine, we sincerely hope that packages of international military aid will arrive in a timely manner because it is not that there is a lack of certain types of ammunition, but if there were more of them, then, accordingly, the defense and the preparation of further opportunities for counteroffensive actions were much

easier . am i right or wrong? and how much do you rate the veracity of these words , that is, is this a strong exaggeration? in fact, every piece of information should be treated with the utmost criticality and trusted exclusively an official source that concerns ukraine. so, the statement of the general staff is not the biggest decision, because at some positions and settlements of the armed forces of ukraine, it is necessary to carry out a maneuver to occupy advantageous positions in order to delay the enemy, then inflict a fire impression on him and, accordingly, these are certain maneuvers against them, it presents as its extremely high achievements, let's remember bakhmut, where the situation is not easy, it is not the hottest spot on the planet, but at the same time, the russian federation stated that bakhmut will be taken in august. today it is already february and bakhmut is fighting with heavy battles, but it is standing

. how do you assess what, that is, what is the realistic goal of the russians in this offensive? that is, because there is there, of course, they are far from us, so when they say that there will be a split, but realistically, what do they still strive for, that is, if it remains so within the framework of realism, now by the 24th, the dictator must show the result. although some , accordingly, the armed forces of the russian federation receives a clear instruction to carry out assault actions and we see that in some places they manage to carry out certain actions and in some places they show aerial aerobatics, how it is not necessary to carry out shock and assault actions. a week ago, everyone could see this video under the solidarity when the enemy was blown up, this is on the installed mines and the strike group was completely destroyed, that is why it is important to show the society of the russian federation some

results that i am currently seeing in ukraine, which concerns the intentions in general, the administrative border of donetsk, luhansk region, and what exactly it is important - this is a logistical connection, the enemy needs to take the main roads along which the supply of their troops with the necessary ammunition will take place by means of manpower transport and the occupation of a key bridgehead for the possible potential development of offensive actions, accordingly, this plan is lying on the surface and the enemy will not be able to implement it thank you i thank you. this is yuriy fedorenko , commander of the akhiles attack unmanned aircraft complex company of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade from under the e-e svatov and we'll be back let's go to our general conversation with igor lapin's novel dawn of igor well, we've heard a little, you see, all of them, that is, the russians in principle well, they are conducting an offensive as

they can now, apparently, they can't show more yet, but also mr. roman spoke about our offensive even without aviation. it turns out that it will also be quite problematic, and on the other hand, it turns out that the way our allies see this offensive is the strengthening of the armored component so that's it how realistic are our expectations at that time? i would say, look at the situation in our country, for example, as of today with airplanes. well, it is not much better than it was, for example , a few months ago, but kharkiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast , kyiv oblast, zhytomyr oblast are completely exempted from russian occupiers because, in principle, no matter what, but for today, in fact, the last word is behind a simple ice infantryman ivan

or peter or mykola and as long as the infantry we entered this or that territory, it cannot be considered as captured by the russians or as liberated by ukraine in this context, despite the lack of air superiority, we are still carrying out counteroffensive actions. what will be hunted by everything that flies in russia, it will be hunted right now for this one for that one, but here everything is very big, let's say so , the topic of the attack itself is of great importance. dirty, because it can tell you more, but from the point of view of an ordinary infantryman, if the offensive is rapid, which we saw in the kharkiv region, then in principle, if there is a possibility of expanding this wedge, for example, our guys break through one or another defense of the russians, then it is possible to send after this it all depends on how quickly the guys will be able to get from point a

to point b and expand this corridor, as well as how much it is possible to camouflage the air defense forces, this is so that the russians do not fly planes over with the heads of the infantry well, this is one of the elements, that's why armor today is very important for the infantry and for the counterattack, and i want to note the bmw bradleys , which are now heading towards us, let's say, well , it's for speed, it's one of the best opportunities, it seems to me, today yes, of course, tanks, large heavy tanks, it’s also very good, it’s a fist, but nevertheless, the bmps themselves can hit eh, eh, eh, enemy armor, having the appropriate type of weapons in them. there are anti-tank guided missiles and so on that is, in this regard, it is one of the good machines that can play a rather large role today, and the experience of using such bmps in offensive operations in the world is generally there, but

you know our boys, they learn so well if we have agricultural troops uncle vasyl could steal tanks from the russians. well, why would they go to bradley , because we will go to bradley? they cook there how do you assess these conversations, what can the russians prepare and how much is it for them? maybe, well, in general, it will be . let's say that we can prepare something from the point of view of aviation. will attack even if now, during offensive operations in the area of ​​ugledar , the russians have just pulled up the aviation, we naturally use it in defense mode, it is not bad, it is not bad, but

it is good, we destroy 1-2 ships in 24 hours from the su-25 and kak-53, the attack helicopters and the su-24 turn tables were put down just recently yesterday, or the bombers, that is, the russians are already using aviation. aviation is just one of the signs of a ready-made offensive, and a large-scale offensive the one about which everyone is talking about it is already underway it has already started in the mode of combat reconnaissance rather tough reconnaissance, that is, already up to 10 km wide, the russians are trying to attack and with the help of naturalness cover air defense they are just uh this moment uh- they do everything that is correct, that is, the offensive operation with the aviation equipment is covered, it is necessary to cover the fact that now they have pulled it to the borders of ukraine and to the front line, and the directions along which

the russian aviation components were pulled are saying that in the nearest time is somewhere. i think, eh. once the rebasing has already passed, it means that it will last for a week, a maximum of two weeks. optimal for the russian troops and the russian aviation, the direction is exactly where there is little shoulder, the landing time is a-a district, that same valuev, which is kupyanskaya well, this is kharkiv oblast, they were trying to er-er move, advance in this area and of course, er, necessarily there should be a second direction of one of them becomes the main second second degree depending on the development of the situation, then most likely the zaporozhye front, namely, the flight time from the crimean airfields is quite short, a few minutes, they do not go there on the front line and they are working, that is, the transfer

to krym, and the combat units of the aviation, as it were, says something from two sides, about a week, a week or two , the same increase will be carried out by the offensive operators, well, this is the whole story that happened last week under ugledar, when you lined up some convoys to attack, they were defeated literally in these places where they were concentrated, but we are primarily talking about the 155th brigade of the russian marines of the pacific fleet, but there were other brigades. that's me. i understand that this is the southern flank of the russian offensive, is it not yet, mr. igorechov, you are shaking your head, but let’s comment . the fact is that there is a task at the tactical level, there is an operational-tactical and strategic level, the colonel just spoke about the strategic the level is when there is a global front with aviation and so on

, but it will be about masking our defense along the entire front line. and this is what happened at ugledara, it was an attack being prepared, but let's look at the number of banned russians . that is, we note about 31 of the equipment there and there, according to some estimates, from 500 to 1,000, 200, they can’t really count there now. but nevertheless, if you count the wounded , that is, let us demobilize there. let there be even thousands of tanks and equipment units there for 100, something there, 130 yes well, it’s all a big pile, so if you take the number of visas that are concentrated in the south of us, for example, including in the south of donetsk region and in the south in general, if we are talking about the zaporizhia region of kherson, then it is one. well, there is 2% of everything that they have there have therefore let's say so this does not bring down their offensive potential, we simply broke in with the first ones to climb, but where they will go with a wide front, where will there be

more use of aviation equipment and once again i emphasize that there are very, very many of them there . of the order of up to 250,000 personnel. and if we take ukraine as a whole, then some estimates say that it is up to 400,000 . well, that is, the incapacitation of 1,000 marines. drones flew to the air base there of strategic bombers in we remember and broke into them there a powerful offensive missile attack as well because we hit there damaged two planes and so on that is what i am leading to so we shot down one of the waves in one but we need to chop down the understanding of where, after all, the main blow will be. well, here is the question of the satellites , here is the question of intelligence, here is the question of our international partners, what information do they have, and here is the question of the analysis of the general staff, you and i

will definitely not be able to discuss this on the air for sure because there is a lack of information well, but we can at least estimate some things, for example, mr. svitani, tell me, hmm, taking the coal mine, let’s say so, the goal of the offensive. is this a prerequisite for a further offensive by the russians? donetsk group to go to pokrovsk er go to kurakhovo pokrovsk and try to get to er good field that is er and it is already very difficult to do but they have a uletar just like that er stone therefore, without taking ugledar, zaya will not be able to go to kurakhovo

, go to pokrovsk, and therefore, most likely, they will not fight. they can't bypass him, they can't take him, this will be the second bakhmut ugledar, and in the near future , these attacks will be constantly repeated, they can change directions, so , in general, the picture will definitely be a struggle for ugledar. all the more so, as far as i am concerned i understand, in general, in their political vision, this is exactly the kind of goal that defense minister shoigu set for himself in order to show his effectiveness, first of all, as a minister and , in general, his own, in contrast to these storms of bahmut, which is well, let's say this, not even so much bahmut as soledar as such well good luck in these internal struggles, that's why vugledar gave this - it 's most likely that we have to be vigilant there because it will be so important. and if we still return

to kharkiv in this direction, let's talk about let's talk about him a little more, we expect, we understand that a further offensive there is impossible without logistic routes, which is what yury fedorenko told us about without these, well , i understand that even without kupyansk, he it's unlikely that the future is possible, but it's still more like seeing what it is. this will be an attempt to do this. you know, the bigger ticks, as they like to call it. or is it just another way to support this idea? there, as they say, release or capture e-e full of luhansk and donetsk oblast, mr. igor. do you think we are speaking for kharkiv oblast? well, just a few minutes ago, we heard on our air the thesis that there is an increase in air force on the territory of russia. also yesterday, the first reports went out. what is there near kharkiv

oblast? training grounds, tent cities for the reception of personnel, and therefore the question here is not even so much about ticks, but which of these strikes will be the main one, and some kind of auxiliary one. well, if we talk from the point of view of the strategic level, then if we say that they will go from the south and from the north, well, one thing must play the main role, and something auxiliary, well, in my deep conviction, putin still needs donetsk luhansk region to save face, and therefore the main one can be the strike from the south. which we were talking about now, including the attempt to surround the group from the coal mine there to pokrovsk and dobropolia and so on. well, but once again i emphasize with the mind of russia, i do not understand, although in principle based on the knowledge that many generals received in including ukrainian generals in ukraine even in the old soviet times, then in principle

we can calculate the direction of tank columns of deployed tank brigades due to development. 15 km higher on the map to the solidar and well, we didn't see them , well, that is, we should have seen them too, so in principle, the russians are also learning to fight, let 's not underestimate the enemy, but kharkiv is more, let's say, of the strategic direction of the operation, and here again you need to understand what they are focused on at the moment. they are preparing . we will see what they will go with. something will happen. where exactly and how exactly can it be seen on the roads, because in any case they will be moving along the roads, so look there like that and see, mr. roman, we

still have a little time there. well, we have time. yes, we still have some time we are advancing on the contour, we are advancing, we need to defend ourselves because, well, there are definitely forces and the russian offensive will intensify, and from this point of view, what weapons would be the most desirable for us in this defense now, what would we need to strengthen in order to to hold this one, but to hold one's lines, after all, not to roll back . and here i will support mr. igor, indeed, yes , and there is a small-arms weapon. now, in order to keep any movement, that is, starting with machine guns and ending with mortars, this is in the first line, in the first line

, in the second line, you must necessarily have shells for artillery and artillery. it is still one of the main, still striking elements of the e- on the battlefield, armor will also be needed, light armor will also be needed, and by the way, the same bradleys that will fit now can be pulled out immediately, uh, on the front, as they are. they are really easy to control. it's anti-tank guns and a cannon for the university, there is a machine gun, that is, it's very good armor, both for defense and only for offensive purposes, because that's the first thing that's needed. that's what's needed. come on, that 's the most important thing . and we know igor's opinion, it is that it is necessary to mobilize immediately . however, this is already happening with us, that is , even if we additionally mobilize these people

, it is necessary to train them for a month or two or three. we are a reserve a good reserve is ready, the main task of the infantry is there, motivation and suitability, motivation, suitability . we have a whole layer of such people . it is necessary to teach for a long time, they know how to handle weapons, they know how to carry out orders, because i think the best option is now in this situation, it is very urgent to transfer the forces of the ministry of internal affairs

i understand our march to zero. igor, you agree with this and arm the population, the teacher should arm them so that they know , as they say, it was ready. it won’t be necessary later. population clearly, thank you, it was igor lapin , a special officer, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a people's deputy of the eighth convocation, roman svitan, a military expert, a pilot, a colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, in reserve, and now our broadcast is starting serhiy rudenko he continues, he starts his verdict program so that uh, now he will appear, he passed his word. congratulations to serhiy, olga, we are waiting for your return. thank you. literally in a few seconds , we will start the verdict. glory to ukraine - this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko . have a good day and good health. i today