[000:00:00;00] war, in particular, we are talking about the markets from which we fell out to a large extent. this probably applies to metallurgy and not only if you calculate , so to speak, the size of our budget hole, because we understand that some cities are temporarily occupied, in particular , mariupol itself, it is metallurgy, and so on. so on, be good. as the people say, with a debit credit, where without a loan, we will reconcile with you thanks to the help of our western allies. as danylo hetman said , this is half of our budget for today. of the budget is income from our allies and they are used precisely for obtaining the social sphere for humanitarian programs and if there was no western aid, it would be very, very, very, very difficult for us here, we have to be objective, it is another matter that western aid

cannot give money for the defense and military needs of ukraine precisely at the expense of our internal revenues, and this is one of the functions of a business that works in the rear, it floats . it pays taxes, it gives revenues at the expense of which precisely the war is financed. because if he did not work actively enough, then he would not we would be able to hold the front and pay the soldiers the money that they earn with their blood and their lives, if we speak for our exports, you know that the new role of ukraine in the global division of labor in the world economy is currently being defined, yes, you are right , antin said that we have changed export, if before this we once started in the days of independence, we were industrial, then industrial, agrarian, then agrarian-industrial. now , unfortunately, we have become more agrarian in terms of exports , because ours turned out to be, as they say, a breadbasket

europe and the bread and butter of the world, thanks to these extreme conditions, it became clear how important we were to prevent people from starving all over the globe and to name about four hundred million inhabitants who depend on our food, which we produce in the world. it's a pity, but we export grain . although there is a vice-president of the national chamber , i always say that i'm not happy about it. pasta so that we do not export grain and this grain is processed inside compound feed so that we grow meat here and export not meat , we export sausage and balyk darnytskyi , you understand, that is, processing products so that there is a deeper problem here, but this is a matter of our future for today, unfortunately chemicals, metallurgy fell, metallurgy exports fell by 70%. because the main enterprises are located in combat zones, it was donbas, it was the east and south-east

of ukraine, more or less dnipropetrovsk , kryvyi rihstal is working, but they are also limited, it is like production, they rather support production, because according to technology it is not possible, or rather, it is possible to suspend the operation of the blast furnace, but it is very expensive and very difficult to start it, therefore, there is metallurgy, but metallurgy is rather in the stomach, therefore, if we talk about our economy today, then it just lives at the expense of the export of primarily agricultural products is not surprising , but rather, the trend that existed before the war continues, it is it technologies, it is light industry. these are the areas that continue to work, including during wartime another moment that started, a new trend that we did not have, these are relocated enterprises that moved from areas close to hostilities , mainly to western ukraine, transcarpathia, which are trying to produce there, some successfully, some

this powerfully, which work, including exporting mykhailo, and finally, i would like to ask you and what hurts you as the first vice-president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine, we understand that there are cases that should be implemented immediately as soon as possible , we understand how bureaucratized we are to a large extent by the system we were all delighted or horrified, so to speak, from the news that came from customs, we understand what abuses there were and so on, but what would you personally like to change now as soon as possible in order to revive certain internal economic processes internal well and cooperation with our foreign partners, how to change the situation by the fact that those people who left , especially socially active people, returned , the fact that about 10,000 ukrainians who left for

poland and opened there registered as in our opinion, entrepreneurs are proof that this is a socially active stratum that will later restore the economy, that will own life, he is already starting to work in poland, if he will be there, it is unlikely that he will return to work successfully, and the people are it is the large capital that is why for me it hurts more how to return these people to ukraine after the war , mr. mykhailo, but where do you see growth points in the conditions of the war? you may know agriculture, strangely enough, i was very surprised by the statistics when it turns out that for the 22nd year, we increased the export of butter to europe by 24%, it seemed so, and then the milkmen told me, do you know that we keep at the same level more than ours a surplus of dairy products, because milk and dairy products are produced somewhere at the same level as before the war. and you understand, we

know that the number of milk consumers has fallen , people have left and consume less, but the fact that butter is a product of deep processing processing and we still have added value here. how do you give an example of that, of course, agriculture? i understand that we are already somewhere in the world economy as a source of food, so if we start from what is, and we must understand how to push back from what is, then our task is to do as much as possible a deeper processing product , so that it was not grain again, but spaghetti, so that it was not milk, but butter , so that it was not meat, but sausage, that's why agriculture, the second today , was literally lo- there was some event for

by agrarians. they said that it is predicted that the area of ​​crops will decrease by a third next year, that is significantly, by a third in the middle of the occupation. and this is a tragedy for those who work there, they are blown up in the fields, because ah, on the other hand, it is such, you know, there is a question of risk, on the one hand , it is necessary to sow on the other side where the hostilities took place. of course, this remains, but even in those conditions when it will decrease by 20% thank god this is enough for us to produce in order to provide for ourselves and also to feed half the world who rely on us, that is why i am just looking at our holiday economy. i look with great optimism. thank you very much for us, mr. mykhailo, it is not a prank, the first vice president of the chamber of commerce and industry was working directly now on the air of the espresso tv channel, an extremely meaningful and important conversation, thanks to mr. mykhailo for his work, we are going further 5:30 p.m. and yulia, a citizen of the city, is waiting for us, ready to join, and

mrs. yulia, a member of the poltava city council, we congratulate you. good evening, what i wanted to say, so to speak, they were tired of the war in poltava, teenagers were having fun with russian pop , the telegram channel of ukraine live released the corresponding video, as young people during the war dance in a night club to the music of morgenstern and other russian artists who are recognized in ukraine as posing a threat to national security. i would like to ask you, ms. yulia, about this , as i am lighting a wall in ukraine, you can see it live there, and there is a lot of interesting information , ms. yulia. what do you know about this party, about this party, do you know those people who are there, is it normal for poltava, no , actually, i am very sorry to discuss such events in poltava, about such a rather shameful event that

took place in our city, and these are parties for young people who er, unfortunately, they are organized er tintin spati is called an organization and they hold such parties for young people all over ukraine, almost all over ukraine, and that is why poltava has now become er known for this event , but i would very much like to check this one what an event in kharkiv in two days will take place and has already been announced on various websites on february 17th at the vintage club so that well-informed residents of the city can check what will happen at these parties and to what extent this is a systemic problem. because it seems to me that this is actually the case. the organization that started in france and received a franchise in ukraine organizes such parties for young people. moreover, i will note

that their goal, as they state in their posts, is to give an opportunity to relax. young people from 13-14 years old and there should be a ban on alcoholic beverages and everything else , but we can see from this video and from the posts that appeared on the network that unfortunately these things are not observed and why do it at all in the military the time is not clear to me at all, but the situation is also complicated by the fact that such behavior is a violation of the adopted legislation regarding the fact that it is not possible to listen to russian music in public places, unfortunately, there is no responsibility , we talked literally before this broadcast

with the police, they also say that no changes have been made to the code of administrative violations and, accordingly , it is impossible to bring to justice the violations of this legislation . in any case , condemn such behavior, but it is extremely difficult to bring the organizers to justice . and how did it come out? this story is just a video that someone posted on social networks. well, the actual video is yes, but we wanted to ask you about the feedback we understand that telegram channel ukraine published it live and many people watched this video and probably reacted , what kind of feedback is public feedback, of course, most people in various telegram channels of our local ones are now condemning this behavior, and in fact, at the moment , most of the establishments in poltava are those that are nightclubs

and the like closed in principle , this case that we are talking to you about now . it was taken out, taken out, taken out, a rented institution to hold the event, the actual event, of course, there are concerts, various activities take place, but nightclubs do not work, and therefore, in principle, as well as a form of leisure, it is not very approved during the period of the military base - well, even more so when russian banned music is played, that's why people reacted very negatively to it, and i hope that the public resonance of this event is this in itself affects the organizers and the parents who let their children go to these parties seemingly with good intentions, but in reality we see what exactly happens at such parties, and the reaction from the mayor

of poltava, mr. mamai, was kind of general do the city authorities or the regional military administration keep a watchful eye on such things? well, they have certain powers . when you mentioned the mayor, i took it as a joke because, unfortunately, you know the situation with our mayor, and that he himself is often accused of fueling the situation and dissemination of information about the military and the like, that is, obviously , you should not expect any assessment of the public situation from the city council, but unfortunately, the military did not express any official position on this matter either of the administration, maybe they think that uh, that's all. well, public publicity should, but it's not worth reacting to it, although my position is that all public figures should give an equally public assessment of this event and condemn such actions so that they are not

repeated in the future because i am saying that it is difficult to bring to responsibility in the region, but it should be. well, at this level of moral public responsibility, it is unacceptable, unacceptable for our communities, in principle , regardless of which city you are in , such a situation did not happen, or which one you are you currently observing the activity of these same public figures in your local elite, are there those who defend or speak out in some way for what happened, by god, they are not there who would stand up for the organizers of this event and say that everything is okay, we can organize such parties at every step or they are necessary, so at least this situation is already pleasing that most people understand and why these restrictions apply in public transport and in public places, and if at

the beginning when the law just came into effect, then until we received many complaints, for example, from public transport that they continued to include chanson or some other kind of music in shuttle taxis. currently , there are almost no such complaints, and therefore i hope that this is a more aware position of residents and our community and in general in ukraine. the situation is finally changing ms. yuliya, we would also like to ask you about the mood in poltava, so we understand that the situation is alarming , so to speak, the enemy regularly shoots not only the border regions, so they try to target energy facilities and so on. we understand that the situation in poltava is not easy, so what is the mood among the citizens in general, the situation changes depending on the actual events that are taking place, the intensity of the shelling and what events are happening at the front, the most difficult thing in poltava

is that now all the defenders are perceived in our and the military units and the teroborona are located in the east of ukraine in the hot spots as much as possible, and that is why it is most noticeable here. now, unfortunately, every day we hold the funerals of a significant number of our defenders. the situation if we talk about the shelling and the infrastructure and the provision of services to people, the situation here is somewhat better. in recent days, we have had significantly fewer outages, and for much shorter periods, work has been completely restored in the city, that is, on the contrary. you can already feel the approach of spring, which after all, this most difficult winter we survived and most

of the services for the people remained preserved. hmm , that's why the mood is like this. that we have. that is, we can say that well, plus or minus, the situation in the city is normal. thank you, ma'am. the last question is from our editor andrii, when will you remove the eagle on your square, the symbols of the soviet union, what is there , listen? i think this is the first for one of our broadcasts, because it is a very difficult situation right now in a city with decommunization and the colonization of public space , unfortunately in poltava, there are a lot of these symbols around the events of the battle of poltava, in general, our city was being developed, and now they have been submitted again by our faction and after the arrival of the minister

of culture to poltava , there are proposals for draft decisions regarding the dismantling of all these objects, but how quickly it will be possible to do this, i am not ready to say at the moment, because the pro-russian mayor, who protects these sights , has repeatedly announced that they are will remain as long as i am in office, that is, this epic is still ongoing, but the main thing is that the process has started, we are preparing these documents, and i hope that the community will support this process and we will go through it as much as possible in a legal order, the dismantling of all these objects because in our zigin vatutin monuments to peter still stand, and this is also not acceptable , especially considering what peter is and the person who founded the russian empire in its official format. participation in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel yuliya vorobchanina, deputy of the poltava city council, coordinator

of the volunteer movement in poltava, topic let's continue team martynenko koshlyansky is already in contact with us researcher of the history of kyiv public activist shvydenko of the naming commission about kyiv mayor tymoshenko well, today's news about decommunization from kharkiv oblast amused us, the regional council there voted and renamed the village of vatutine to zaluzhnye, how do you rate it, let's start concretely with this, you know great news, it 's actually very happy that finally this wave of colonization has already reached, more precisely , it is also reaching our eastern territories of the eastern regions of our country, because i will simply remind you that when in the city of kyiv in 2017 renamed vatutin avenue, of course, it was a whole epic and it is worth reminding that the pro-russian forces at that time

were coordinated and controlled from moscow. for several years, the decision of the kyiv city council dragged on in the courts and they tried to cancel the renaming of vatutin avenue to roman shukhevich avenue, which until things, i will also remind you that the outstanding event is actually historical, you can frankly say that it was a historical event last week, when finally there is a monument to vatutin from the verkhovna rada of ukraine it was also removed in kyiv, it was finally dismantled, so we understand that vatutina has had enough, but i also think that there are a number of objects that deserve the attention of our so-called topo-topologists, that is , experts of various historical places, so to speak, which should be cleaned it is now possible to change it like this because we are happy when certain streets are renamed after some soviet figures there or even

simply representatives of russian culture or science, even in the case of michurin, it is as if the person has not been caught, there is nothing wrong with us did, but well, the question of the feasibility of the presence is so proper proper proper proper well, accordingly, what cannot be changed now except for the mother's family eh look at this eh let's divide this question into two parts , that is, one is about trodden places, the second is about monuments that is, in german, in fact, today, if we are talking about the city of kyiv, we have a debugged process that we call virusification. well, many people say that it is more correct to speak from nairoshinnya. but nevertheless, at the level of the city of kyiv, there is now a special procedure according to which we we are moving now i will remind all the viewers that the so-called second wave of russification is formally starting in the city of kyiv, and if during the first wave we worked there with almost 300 objects that needed to be renamed

, now in this second wave we are already continuing so to speak, we went deeper into this process , now there will be approximately 30 more objects that will have to be renamed , er, systematic work is taking place here, if we are talking about monumental sculpture or memorial signs, then everything is a little more complicated here , because it reminds us once again that that monuments they all have a certain status and not all monuments, they are not not about all monuments , the city can freely make decisions, that is , if it is about monuments of national importance, then a decision of the cabinet of ministers is required. and that is exactly why the city of kyiv is actively cooperating now the same with the ministry of culture in order to develop road maps for the dismantling of these and such bright markers of the soviet occupation and the russian presence in the city of kyiv, which must be dismantled without fail, but this process has finally

begun, we are just seeing the dismantling of vatutin and the dismantling of chkalov last week we will talk about such and such prologue yes such and such is the first step towards systematically cleaning up the public space in kyiv. well, during the meeting of the expert working group on mining in kyiv, it was proposed to renovate air force avenue into an avenue of the european union, and what other initiatives are there? look, this is actually an issue that today is very uh, dividing the kyiv community, because uh, in fact, there was never a problem with air fleet avenues earlier, i will simply remind you that during the first active wave of decommunization in the period from the 15th year to 2019 , there were no questions about any communist or soviet narrative, and this name comes from the 63rd year from the decision of the kyiv city council to rename of this object, and there is nothing

communist in that decision; moreover, we have now received the conclusion of the institute of national memory , which says that this object is not subject to decommunization; it is necessary, that is, it is unconditional, you can search for it there, but with the same success, you know, you can search for russian genitives and er in the name of yabluneva street, connecting it with michurin there, ugu er, with povitroflotsky prospect , the situation is really very difficult er, in society in the community it is perceived ambiguously, and we see those polled , which were conducted by, for example, the kyiv media, where the audience is the vast majority of kyiv , either they do not support the issue of the povytropol avenue or the second position is that if the name is already changed, then on something related to aviation because the thing is that for some reason this question is so irritating because povitroflotsky prospect today is a threaded axis around which

a whole series of topons related to the aviation history of kyiv gathers and therefore this name is definitely perceived by the oceans as part of kyiv's heritage related to the research of e-e and with the achievement of the aviation industry with aircraft construction, and kyivans and ukrainians made a very outstanding contribution to world aviation in general. i will simply remind that e-e ukrainians created the first the ukrainians laid ground planes in the first one laid out the trajectories of flights to the moon which we later saw with you dear mr. martynenko kushlyanskyi because the story of povitroflotskyi well, i don't know. that is, we have to somehow delve deeper. well, we don't name dukhashvili and so on. where, so to speak, did the attachment of the decommunizers specifically to victory avenue come from, because well, we understand that in soviet times, when

victory avenue was called victory avenue, it meant victory over nazi germany and in but accordingly in the present time it would be possible to adjust it somehow, i don’t know, and in general to leave it, so to speak, at an abstract level of perception well, because there may be a victory over russia in this war, you understand, well, you know , you can interpret it in any way you like, but i thank you very much for this question this is a very interesting case, especially for viewers from other cities, it will be interesting to learn that the story of peremogy avenue in the city of kyiv is such a purely kyiv local history and such a rather acute trauma for residents because this this avenue was one of the last objects that were not renamed in soviet times for ideological reasons, that is, in 1985, the name victory avenue appeared, and at the same time it was renamed brest-litovsk avenue , berestovsky avenue, it was there

its name comes from the current city of brest, in the ukrainian language we call it brestia . that is why the historical name has now been returned in the form of brestey avenue, but for the townspeople, the renaming in 185 was a great trauma, because the name brest-kotovsky prospekt was very popular in kyiv and it was one of the names that was preserved in the city for the longest time. it was there about 200 years ago when this step was taken and everyone perfectly understood that it was not about any kind of commemoration in essence to the memory of ukrainians who died there who fought with nazism and somewhere, but in fact, it is simply about planting this biology, as it is now customary to say pobedus, that is, you know this talk of the soviet myth about the great patriotic war, and that is why we have repeatedly talked about it now, that the renaming of victory avenue is in no way in fact, it does not undermine the contribution of ukrainians to the victory over nazism in the second world war, this is essentially the restoration of justice, because

for 30 years, in various forms, kyivans fought for the return of the historical name of this avenue, and i will remind you that the current initiative finally ended in success, but it was far from the first initiative and in 2017 we already held public hearings in the city of kyiv where we also collected votes and kyivans already spoke out for the return of this historical name, unfortunately then in the past years there, 5 years ago, the government did not have enough political will to implement this decision, finally, now this decision has been implemented, and indeed two such iconic objects have returned their old historical names , which the people of kyiv have always loved. that is, beresteysky prospect in the case of the former prospect peremohy and halytska square in the case of the former peremohy square well, finally , i would like to briefly ask you about the reaction of

ordinary kyivans. there they represent very well the opinion of the so-called lumpent position, and people are not always satisfied. because we understand that a certain confusion does not give well, but for one and a half minutes, you know , it was not very correct to talk about the lublin position without my point, because of course there are different points of view, but for the most part everything - still, there is a consensus in the community today, there are those who do not like these decisions about renaming objects, but for the most part people still understand these things and understand that today we need to get rid of that artificial soviet cult and the russian cult that we know here were artificially implemented in order to create some unity of the soviet people, so to speak , they planted us and gave such a bad injection, thank you for the very cool professional comments, you between martynenko-kushlyansky , researchers of the history of kyiv, public activists and a member of the naming commission under the kyiv mayor, the products

of the residents of the dnipropetrovsk region there on february 16, that is, the lights will not be turned off tomorrow , we are conducting measurements, so they will conduct measurements electricity consumption oh so good news valevska worked today and then serhiy rudenko and the verdict program stay glory to ukraine - this is the verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today, february 15, is the 357th day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers sweden is considering ukraine's request on providing the armed forces of ukraine with fighter jets, the russian occupiers are planning to recapture the kharkiv region , and today the second day of rammstein continues in brussels - 9 where 54 defense ministers from various countries of the world that have united in an anti- putin coalition are discussing the issue of