[000:00:00;00] the coldest part of ukraine will be the coldest zaporizhzhia will be more warm odeshchyna well and traditionally crimea gusty wind precipitation is not expected in the south of ukraine in kyiv tomorrow february 16 also without significant precipitation in the coming night frost somewhere up to -4°, maybe even up to -5 in the afternoon the air temperature will range from zero to two degrees celsius it was this was the weather forecast and just now for your attention a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news on the air of bbc news ukraine in the studio in olga palamarchuk is working in london, we are summing up the results and today in the program the turning point has come in russia's war against ukraine, so western analysts claim, are there forces and opportunities for a ukrainian

counteroffensive? two-day meeting of defense ministers of nato countries has ended in brussels . will they continue to support ukraine? turkey is recovering from a powerful earthquake. people are beginning to question whether such a large number of victims could have been avoided turkey is recovering from the effects of a super-powerful earthquake that occurred last on monday, february 6, president erdoğan announced that the number of victims has exceeded 35,000. in general, the natural disaster has claimed the lives of more than 40,000 people, and together with the victims in neighboring syria , more than 13,000 victims are currently in hospitals . the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine

reported the death of at least five ukrainians from the earthquake in turkey , ten ukrainians were rescued from under zavall, everyone considers them missing and their search continues after the agony of waiting, the last one about the region of nadiya went out, the body was found, dad, dad, they they shout when it is carried out glory! glory this multi-meter mountain of debris was once intensive care and hospital wards, now 7 of them are still waiting here, they say that they paid out of their own pockets for equipment and fuel to find the missing when the official turkish search and rescue teams arrived here today, here are the ones with red with scarves they were met with indignation what you should

have done on the first day you are doing on the ninth this man shouts the team left we lost our relatives we took their bodies yesterday at midnight and they came only now the beds are medical records and equipment were buried forever under the rubble, according to the rescuers, 300 people were there at the time of the earthquake. they do not know exactly how many people survived in burin, not least because of the report published on the website of the ministry of health in 2012 more than 10 years ago when they conducted earthquake resistance tests of this block , the result was negative, alijan kenar works as a translator inside, it was his grandmother and her brother, the person to blame for this, or

people and of course the government . i say this because it is obvious. everyone sees it as they say . in this area of ​​the earthquake, angry and urgent questions are growing, what else could have been done to save the dead, and now to the event in ukraine and again to the balloons that this time were found in the sky over ukraine because of it, even for a certain time announced the alarm, at least six objects were previously known, it is known that they could carry so-called corner reflectors and certain reconnaissance equipment , the capital administration said so. the spokesman of the air forces of the armed forces of ukraine

yuriy ignat p. yuriy i congratulate you the day before on our broadcast we talked about the balloons over the united states and they made a lot of noise and today they are already unknown aerial objects were flying over ukraine, well, first of all, do they have anything in common with what caused the scandal in america? and secondly, is it already known what kind of balloons these are, whose and who released them? well, and most importantly, why? oh, so many the questions from which we start well, from that issue it is clear why it is clear we are at war and all the means that the enemy has are available in order to, uh, well, defeat us, as they think they will use and we will use all the means to uh objects that were connected to the states, well, probably everyone saw them the photos, yes, they are huge, there are such and such bullets, they were there and they did not even rise . well, they are aliens of the same level as f-22 or f16, for them there is no neutralization, so for now, well, visually

there is no actual confirmation of our objects, which in ukraine are more reliable than enemy ones objects are air targets, they were tracked by air defense, as you know, the radio engineering troops conduct radar reconnaissance on the territory of ukraine and far beyond the territory of ukraine, well, we are talking about hundreds of kilometers ago, the movement direction of these air targets was recorded in advance the crossing of the ukrainian border today, you know, aerial objects so whole appeared and uh, first in the dnipropetrovsk region yesterday, again, they appeared on the territory of ukraine and crossed it from the south, from the north, or rather to the south uh , and today we saw these objects again. well, today, in the end, combat work was carried out, yes. well, it is unlikely that they pose any danger to peaceful citizens. if there were any means of destruction there, it is excluded , but with regard to these things, what might the enemy

want with the help of of these aerial objects er, so that we can use weapons against them to identify, in this way, the positions from which the fire of anti-aircraft missile forests is fired further. to understand what what are we dealing with and have we already managed to identify what it was, so to speak, who, well, actually, yes , if you can talk about the board, then yes. where on their monitors on the radars, yes. therefore, we have to wait if the target was hit, then we will find out from the wreckage or hear other signs that it was exactly there, as i was there, it was useful, it was all loaded, it was the usual bleachers

that we talked about earlier, but only russia started using ukrainian drones they began to try to shoot them down practically with improvised means in the armed forces of ukraine , then they said it was better not to do this. and what should be done in the case of such a bullet ? we, the people, really want to be useful. in this case, it is both in the plan of the message and, in the end, to cope with these goals on our own . i want to remind you that if you go to shoot down an ordinary bottom, it is difficult to shoot them. someone even tried to shoot them down with hunting rifles. about the high speed there, the trajectory of the flight on an air target is a little different if we are talking about a shahed , so it can be shot down even with a machine gun, and well, it is extremely difficult to shoot down shahs somewhere with large-caliber machine guns, so you need to have

some experience as a shooter to make corrections on preemption, shoot with tracer ammunition to understand the trajectory as it approaches the target itself otaka, that’s the turn, so the professionals have to deal with it, well, and about reporting , well, radar aerial television, and this type of this is like a minefield and the targets that we have , what do we have now, that’s why. well, that’s why it’s necessary to do people and carry out air warning signals in the end, and even when the enemy’s aircraft is operating. it seems that the air threats do not carry these threats, but the result of the work, if it were so, and e-e aviation means, that is, missiles that can fly, can cause certain consequences for the population, so it is still necessary to observe the alarm when our pp is working. thank you, yuriy hnat, spokesman for the air force

of the armed forces of ukraine will be in touch with us , and thank you for the conversation, and now for the situation at the front, american analysts believe that the withdrawal from bakhmut will not contribute to the preparation of ukraine for a counteroffensive in the daily summary the institute for the study of war indicates that the west is concerned that kyiv resolutely refuses to leave the city and insists on further defense . at the same time, the analyst believes that ukraine's decision to defend bakhmut is strategically justified and further explains why the kremlin spent a large part of wagner's mercenaries and used a large amount of money to attack bakhmut. the resources of the airborne forces and precisely the resistance of the ukrainian military significantly weakened the russian forces. so, as analysts assume, the defense of bakhmut will probably create favorable conditions for the future of ukrainian counteroffensive and add that if the russian troops took bakhmut without significant resistance from ukraine, they could count on expanding their operations, the ukrainian

military would be forced to hastily build defensive positions in less favorable areas. well, the reports of recent weeks indicate that after the capture of soledar, the russians continue to tighten the ring around the bahmut and whether the city can stand, what is the general situation at the front, ask the language of the military expert, contact us serhii grabskyi, mr. serhii thank you for joining air well, some experts are already comparing the situation in bakhmut with the surroundings of mariupol, and when the ukrainian military there actually took all the blows. this gave the armed forces of ukraine the opportunity to gain a foothold in other areas . how do you see it? from the point of view of the maintenance of the settlement or the location called bakhmut today

as a separate location is of no particular importance because its loss would not lead to significant changes in the situation simply because the troops moved in a different direction, but when we talk about the dynamics of hostilities, then here we should agree with the conclusions of the institute for the study of war, which asserts, and there are absolutely reasons for this , that precisely such hostilities, such a nature of hostilities, ensures the stability of our defense not only to the west in the eastern direction and also in the southern direction, because the enemy is forced to attract a large number of resources specifically to take bakhmut , he cannot simply ensure constant pressure on within the framework of the front and significantly weakens its offensive e-e actions its offensive potential in such areas as matchmaking-crime in the avdiivsk on the mariyan direction on the ugledar direction thus, under certain conditions

, the defense of bakhmut can be compared with the defense of the surrounded mariupol e-e which the defense of mariupol led to the fact that the enemy lost his combat potential to such an extent that he was unable to continue operations towards odesa . to be considered in approximately the same context, given that the extremely large number of its own units were deployed, the russian army is simply physically unable to develop an offensive in the limansky and kharkiv directions. thus, the meaning of defense and bahmut is to keep as many russian troops as possible troops and destroy as many russian troops as possible in order to prevent the adversary from expanding the geography of its offensive operations and to prepare the prerequisites for the transition to the offensive of already

ukrainian forces, that is, certain there are parallels in the western press. at the same time, they write that a turning point is coming in russia's war against ukraine. do you agree with this? and this is also a relatively recent situation , because it must be understood that russia, having a certain potential, is still able to ensure the delivery of human resources to ensure the supply weapons techniques for waging hostilities against ukraine, but the situation looks like this. and maybe this and the turning point is not so obvious, but historical. i would say, without diminishing the meaning of this term, historical the decision of the previous rammstein when the decision was made to transfer to ukraine already western shock weapons allows us to say that this

turning point has come, because yes, providing ukraine with already western, more effective weapons systems allows you to neutralize the advantages that the enemy has to date, and this allows us to create the prerequisites for an unconditional transition to the offensive, firstly, secondly, based on the nature of hostilities that russia can afford. we see that they, first of all, but capable of operating on separate local areas of the front, they cannot afford to carry out any massive offensive operations on a wide front or deep offensive operations, and they are very limited in the means of using e-e because ukraine , the ukrainian village of defense are no longer such outside observers, but they inflict concentrated and concentrated strikes that prevent the enemy from acting in their usual manner of war of the 20th century, that is, they do not have the opportunity to concentrate the appropriate and

sufficient number of striking means arming a sufficient amount of ammunition of other means and therefore they are forced to they are limited to the actions of exclusively ground infantry units on small areas of the front and all that they are capable of now is to ensure the actions of assault groups trying to get as close as mine to our positions in order to use the advantage of infantry in the number of personnel is to try to push our units out of position. this is an extremely expensive practice, it leads to insane losses of the enemy, but it is the only practice that can be applied the enemy today is the offensive of the ukrainian military

, why talk further , please stay in touch with us. but first, the armed forces of ukraine need more weapons and aviation equipment. of the allied countries of ukraine today the meeting continued at the level of the defense ministers of the nato countries at the briefing after the meeting general secretary jens stoltenberg spoke support ukraine because victory in the war is a priority. now the allies are working to help ukraine transition from the soviet weapons doctrine to nato standards . and affected people all over the world due to the food and energy crisis, then he made two strategic mistakes, he underestimated the strength and

courage of the ukrainian people and their armed forces forces he also underestimated the unity and determination of nato and nato's allied partners provide unprecedented support to ukraine to defend its right to defend itself from the very beginning . that ukraine, as an independent sovereign state, won the victory of the states, we return to the conversation with the military expert, mr. sergiu, the expectations of this meeting on the part of the ukrainian side were the great eh minister of defense oleksiy reznikov even hinted that they would talk about combat aircraft however, this question was put on hold, what is ukraine losing in this way and is it possible to change the course of events without western aviation, i categorically disagree with you that this question

was raised by aviation supplies on pause, and the previous guest of your program, yuriy ignat, has already stated that work is underway to prepare the airfield network of ukraine to receive western equipment, as for aviation equipment in general, at this stage with the aim of more effective and faster application of this technique, we envisage and negotiations are underway regarding the receipt of soviet samples. increasing our combat potential is a matter of aviation equipment, it is not removed from the agenda , not only that, but it is just such a specific military detail, having received the appropriate

ground equipment, such as challenger tanks, abrams tanks leopard 2, possibly leopard 1, we are talking about the need to cover both from the air and the most effective means of covering such and such equipment is exactly aviation equipment and definitely western-style equipment. e-e ground equipment and western-style aviation equipment require simply colossal e-e resources in order to ensure its reliable operation , maintenance, repair, and these works have already begun, what we did not receive we did not hear a declarative statement about the transfer of this or that type of equipment does not mean that these works are not being carried out and that a political decision will be made finally after working out all the practical steps to provide this equipment, plus we have already talked about the feasibility of transferring long-range weapons to ukraine, and here we have to consider one more nuance , which again makes the issue of the supply

of aviation equipment at the right time, namely the use of long-range missiles, which, in surface-to-surface format, can deliver warhead at a distance of up to 300 km can be considered as realistic missiles , namely the possibility of using nuclear weapons, which will cause a certain reaction in the kremlin, eh, what do ukrainians not want, and not our western partners, instead of the use of missiles, which eh can reach enemy objects at such distances exactly at 500 km, in particular british missiles storm storm shadow that hit at 500 km they are used with in the format e-e air surface thus for this you will need planes and planes of soviet models, but such western ones. thus, we are now coming to a situation where successive actions lead to

the fact that it will be logical to consider the question that over time, this is a matter of several months, a political decision on the transfer and which equipment that will allow the use of a range of weapons will be adopted and ukraine will receive some planes, at least ukrainian pilots are already undergoing training on the corresponding western models, satisfaction of the meeting in brussels, or maybe we were expecting something bigger, if possible , in short, unfortunately, unfortunately serhiy grabskyi a military expert was in touch with us. i think the main thing is that we still heard that nato's priorities currently do not coincide with ukraine's priorities. this is how the bbc correspondent jonathan bill summarized the meeting in brussels. why do i suggest

listening to nato and genstoltenberg said at this meeting that the war in ukraine is turning on the logistics race with the participation of both sides with the use of a huge amount of weapons, especially artillery, he warned that ukraine spends ammunition much faster than the west is able to produce them and therefore the waiting time for supplies weapons in some places cut from 12 to 28 months so he appealed to the nato countries to increase production, especially of tanks and artillery. and at the end of the meeting, he said that some countries have already signed new contracts to increase the production of artillery shells, for example, so it is not just necessary to maintain the supply of weapons to ukraine but to replenish depleted stocks of nato countries that are providing weapons to ukraine, now the focus of attention was once again on fighter jets, once again the minister of defense of ukraine appealed to the event to provide these planes, but at the meeting there were no signs that at least one of the nato countries

at the moment wants or is able to provide them to ukraine . this moment do not coincide with the priorities of ukraine , and it is now more important for nato to focus on the supply of artillery and heavy weapons and tanks to ukraine, which nato countries promised to provide just before the spring offensive. as for aircraft, these fighters are essentially a matter of long-term prospects something folland well, continuing the topic of aviation, ukraine will not receive fighter jets from britain in the coming months or even years, the head of the ministry of defense, ben voles, said this because learning to fly them is not so easy and it takes a lot of time, and aircraft maintenance is quite expensive, so the minister of defense advises to focus on training ukrainian

pilots, but i suggest listening to the 34 billion allocated for the modernization of our armed forces and as new weapons arrive in our warehouses, we will be able to release stocks and send them to the ukrainians, but when it comes to combat aircraft, i do not think that this will happen in the next few months or even a few years, only fighters are very different from anti-tank systems and other types of weapons, these are aircraft that not only have enormous capabilities, but also challenge them because they are not you can master and learn to fly them in a week or two, besides , a whole brigade is needed for their maintenance , it's like a formula 1 team where hundreds of engineers and pilots are not something that can be done in a few months and we are not going to send 200 royal air force personnel to ukraine in wartime so the reality is that

we have to plan and not just to help counter the illegal invasion of russia we have to help ukraine ensure stability for the long term to ensure that after of this conflict, this war, ukraine will be able to defend itself in the future, so training pilots is already very important on this path, and at the same time , the former us special representative for kurt volker of ukraine, who at one time was the american ambassador to nato, believes that the provision of combat aircraft to ukraine is simply a matter of time , well, in his opinion, this decision will be reached in the same way as it happened with tanks and other heavy weapons, in the end they were given the go-ahead, although at first he hesitated believes that now the first priority is the need for ammunition that should be used with a target, it will take several months to convert some lines that specialize in other types

of ammunition to the production of artillery projectiles, but with regard to combat aircraft, i guess in the end this decision will be reached. in my opinion, this is in the category of those things where at first we said no and then finally came to a conclusion and said yes yes in the beginning it was long-range artillery with tanks with missiles i think we will reach in order to provide ukraine with airplanes, a certain training of ukrainian pilots is already taking place. therefore, it is considered a matter of time when the training program for pilots and crews will increase in order to service such airplanes and then provide airplanes for trained crews, this will not happen right away, it will take many months, but i think it is inevitable that we will come to this regarding the supply of other weapons, then it will be done quite quickly, but newer equipment will take more time, for example, it concerns leopard tanks , it will take several months from the moment the decision was made, now they sound appeals to use ammunition wisely, this is because

the supply is limited, there will never be an unlimited supply, the russians use ammunition indiscriminately, releasing thousands and thousands of ukrainians today more selective because they have high-precision aiming equipment, and also about western support. germany has started training the ukrainian military, they are mastering leopard 2 tanks. previously, the same training started in poland, as polish representatives said , in general, the course will last about a month . ukrainians study for 10-12 hours every day and here it is worth saying that it is poland and the country that constantly calls on the eu and nato to provide more support to ukraine. this is a locomotive of ukrainian support on the bbc . the same calls were repeated by the former prime minister. poland's jan bilecki act faster, firstly, we have to act faster than the aggressor

, this is what zelensky often emphasizes, secondly, ukrainians protect not only the front line, but also our pan-european values, the problem of military aid should be really eased, based on these ideas, the conversation about fighter jets is premature or first, it is necessary to quickly train pilots and create a system of operations and support, but what is actually stopping us from providing ukraine with a larger number of tanks and faster if there are 2,000 tanks in europe, then why not quickly transfer 200 i think that this is not true for many reasons, we do not add long-range missiles or more powerful ones than ukraine already has, the ukrainians just want to defend their territory up to the border, and today with ammunition with a range of up to 80 km, they cannot even reach the border, so the russians place warehouses and command centers on their territory a ukrainians don't have ammunition to target them so we really have to do everything we can already today and

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