[000:00:00;00] to provide air support and defense from the air to our ground forces, which will actually carry out the offensive, or that means, uh, in some areas, repel the enemy, yes, yes, just to the right of the attack , i also wanted to talk, because there was information from the speaker of the eastern group of troops, serhii bellied that it is worth preparing also for a possible massive air raid , so to speak, by the russians, because there is data, in particular , the nicer times say that ah, it is recorded that russia is now pulling planes to the borders of ukraine and helicopters are possible to support the ground offensive. please comment. well, of course, because otherwise, what do they mean, and they are charging additional forces, because in fact the russian

army, well, that is, the helicopters of the russian army aviation, they didn’t go far and maybe not in such numbers as they were, for example, in february, march, but still a significant number of units. so we can note at least two regiments in the southern direction, no less than an army aviation regiment in the bakhmut area. well, and some other part again, of course, it is now at the level of three regiments, and it means that the attack aircraft is also now russia, which uses almost all the attack aircraft that it has , it has four regiments of attack aircraft. well , bombers, russian fighters , su-34 bombers are also actively operating. they also have four regiments, but all in their a-a air force reform program

according to the windy space forces want to create an additional four regiments. although they have no aircraft for them, nor the ability to launch, build up, launch planes, western planes can help us resist this force that is already at the gate, so to speak, has long since crossed this border into western planes, they uh , even if you take the f16, they exceed the russian planes by their radio-electronic equipment and weapons, not by much, but by 10 percent this is enough so that with the right tactics, now the f16 two-seater version of the ed steering wheel means that this is enough to cover our troops or to prohibit enemy troops and enemy aircraft from striking our troops in

an operational direction, for this we need one brigade of aircraft would be enough, for example, the f16 is the most popular, the most popular machine. well, i want to clarify the brigade - how many aircraft are there, it is 200 uah for 12 aircraft. and now we only have mig-29 su-27, which are significantly inferior in their a- and the possibilities of radio-electronic equipment what is the main thing now for air battles and in fact our pilots are turning into kamikazes as the same means pilot officer jus told the american senator it is clear and still it also takes time to our fighters in the armed forces have also mastered this new technique. if there is a positive decision, how much time will pass before all these aircraft can form brigades on the territory of ukraine that would be

able to successfully resist enemy attacks , and i would now in light of that that we were not provided with airplanes today, i would divide the training process into two stages, the first stage i would do somewhere in the country that, to us, is our most reliable ally, it is poland or great britain, i would start training our pilots no on combat and on training aircraft of western types, because of course the training program for the aircraft is er. well, those countries that are now acquiring, as in 16, they undergo training on two training aircraft and only then get into the cockpit of the f-16, this slightly shortened the time that we would need one to master the actual combat fighter. that is, we would already be ready for the nato scales, which are graduated not in kilometers and not in meters

, there are thousands of meters and not in kilometers per hour , but graduated in feet, miles and knots you understand, yes, if you changed from a car with left-hand drive to a right-hand drive and vice versa, yes, you have to get used to it, so that it falls into the sea mozart’s footing , so that it is calculated automatically, and not divided every time by 3-3, there are 30,000, which means that it corresponds to about 10 000 m 30,000 feet well, after that, we shortened the preparation period by at least one month, so it would not be six months, as it is now, such a generally accepted figure, or at least 5 months. well, after all, this is a long period of time, and if it is really even 5 months, then it is a lot time will pass and it is the risks of the fact that the russians can use their advantage in the air, are there any other opportunities to either shorten this process or, after all, nothing can

be changed here, one month can only be won thanks to what you said and you know everything how to motivate western uh, so the military there, why don’t they give planes yet? well, this is one of those. not the main motive. they say, we provide you with many anti-aircraft missile systems, and anti-aircraft missile systems are now capable of fighting russian aviation, in the event of an attack, you will push them a little closer. closer to the front line and they will cover your troops, in addition, they are now providing mobile eh well, for example, we received 14 a-ah avenger complexes, which in general eh means they are placed on hummers, you know what a hummer is, it is an army all-terrain vehicle, a light army all-terrain vehicle they will be able to cover the advancing troops from cruise missiles from drones from helicopters 14 pieces - this is enough to cover the operational

direction even and taking into account the losses , in addition, we are promised time for an additional two on the sams, and the french promise on the male it is already medium range and we will already be able to destroy russian aircraft without being in the zone of damage of their artillery already three miles away, 20-30 km away from a combat clash from the front line, in addition, the french give us more samsas, the germans give us cheetahs. that is, we will be able to , yes the french still provide radars, and the radars are universal, they can be used both to detect drones, helicopters and cruise missiles, and not to adjust artillery fire in counter-battery combat , they calculate the trajectory of udder shells and can clearly say where it came from to cover that place, it is the french

gm 200 radars from the concern of the shadow of the french , that is, receiving the radars of the system of anti-aircraft missile systems a-a so we were in a position yes, we are in a position now to create an air defense system troops, and what is a systemic thing? everyone understands, yes. it’s one thing to be amazed at how at the beginning they discussed closing the sky over ukraine, yes, in fact, and now, ukraine is slowly building up , thanks to modern western systems and technologies, some kind of actual analogue of such air defense systems, do you agree with this statement or not? we had this system, but it was a system for soviet samples, soviet radar. well, as for the soviet , let's say ukrainian, we also had a lot of ukrainian radar structures and ukrainian modernization. soviet, once again, ukrainian radars, old soviet anti-aircraft radars

-missile complexes, that is, all the old soviet ones or those created on its basis or some ukrainian elements in this system, because we did not create anti-aircraft complexes or any fundamental moments of electronic warfare systems there, and now we are simultaneously creating more western systems of western anti-aircraft weapons systems and elements of this system, anti-aircraft missile complexes, radars will be able to provide information to neighbors and in general through the headquarters means er, for example, a cruise missile flies and if, for example there is a massive raid of 20 missiles flying , the first anti-aircraft missile system shot down three or four yes they flew yes next he passes the information on to the next next

next you understand yes and in this way you can even with forced airstrikes, repulsing these massive airstrikes increases the efficiency, now it has reached 86%, yes, you can prove it. and on drones, it is 100%, because we have quite a lot of means and have developed tactical techniques for destroying drones , therefore effective tactical techniques have already been 100 several times % destruction of all paths really hope for this 100% will be our air defense forces air defense forces reach every time the russians try to shell ukrainian territory thank you very much it was valery romanenko, leading researcher of the state aviation museum well, let's talk further about the results of the ramstein nine meeting. and we are adding to this conversation the candidate of political sciences in the members of the public council at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine , the expert on international security of the democratic initiatives foundation taras shevchenko taras thank you for joining before the broadcast , we already talk a lot during our broadcast about

the results of the previous results of this rammstein - 9 but when we were preparing also drew attention to the phrase of our officials, in particular oleksiy reznikova, that a lot remains in fact of records . what do you think it could be about ? the elements of the new aid packages, first of all, announced and not so announced by the united states of america, the first thing that comes to mind is these guided bombs of a small diameter, which are launched from rocket launchers , the so-called sources of the a which we can to shoot down ishamers from the m-270 jet systems and the flight range of these guided munitions is 150 km. in fact, it

is twice as much. now we can afford the ammunition that we have for the hummers, the flight range is 1086 km. well , and definitely i think that behind the brackets there remains some preparatory work on the next steps, so because, well , by and large, this rammstein was dedicated to the adoption of osta and organizational logistical decisions on the supply of tanks. that is , we saw the work before this of the so-called tank coalition of a separate group of countries that worked between rammstein and prepared, so to speak, homework on rammstein itself yesterday and today we saw the principle agreements already final which country how many tanks is ready to transfer how to do it in what order and how to make it so that all these tanks they came under the exact needs under the specific needs of the ukrainian armed forces at the front and accordingly could be used there immediately and even from a positive moment a-

ah so carefully almost between the lines yesterday was it was said that there is an initiative to assemble a so-called aviation coalition, that is, according to the principle of this mechanism, how did the supply of tanks to ukraine work , and according to the same principle, the obvious country , the members of rammstein will go with the supply of aviation, that is, for some reason, interesnikov said, and we quoted he said that the discussion about the aviation platforms continues. so why is that, and i think that because a-- actually we now have two options er-er, the first option is a little short and medium-sized and in the long term, this is the option of obtaining our own western-type aircraft, or it will be in 16 or it will be a swedish reinforced element, that is, a-a platform that we have not used in principle before, but uh, and we perfectly understand and our western partners

perfectly understand that we need aviation. if we ask for it, then we need it to increase specific combat tasks . right now, this leaves us with the second option , which is the transfer of already modernized, but soviet -made aircraft from poland and slovakia , that is, i have 29, which, by the way, can to be modernized in order to launch the same british cruise missiles with a reduced flight capacity there somewhere around 500 km. that is, it will be, in principle , a completely different agenda on the field. sample and at a specific moment, that is, what is better to start with the fact that we transfer modernized e-e to soviet-made aircraft so that we can immediately use them to the maximum on the battlefield and do it faster a little more extend the time and start immediately behind the f-16 or, for example, from the gnipeni. well, everything will

depend on what happens on the battlefield after the ukrainian bmp bradley marders get there. accordingly, we are waiting for the first serious delivery of leopards already at the end of march, really and i would like to note that there are still ongoing meetings abroad , including ukrainian delegations, in particular, the munich security conference will take place in two days in germany, the event is to be attended by 150 high-ranking officials from all over the world except russia of course, this was announced by the conference chairman, kristal v holzgen, among the participants, the chancellor of germany olafshol with the president of france, poland, the leaders of the scandinavian countries, the vice president of the usa, the harris channel, the leaders of nato and the un ukraine will be represented by the minister of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba, the main topic of the conference is russia's war against ukraine so, mr. taras, what? we should wait for this

meeting. i think this meeting will be a-a such a very serious preparatory political moment for the continuation of all these serious agreements on the supply of weapons in in ukraine, we have seen over the last few weeks, maybe a month and a half, that in the light of how the supply of tanks to ukraine took place and how these agreements took place, it was clear that the western countries were not quite ready to work in unison. that is, someone was announcing about their intentions in advance someone like germany pushed to the last and in contrast against this background and we began to hear statements from our western partners that agreements on aircraft must be unanimous. that is, well, there must be a consolidated position of our western allies are common and not so that someone wants it now and sooner. and someone wants accommodation later, but finally, and someone does not want

it at all, and well, we have heard everything, in fact, from the americans and from the high allies of the poles, who said that yes, we are ready to transfer combat aircraft to ukraine, but this must be in the context of the necessarily joint and unanimous position of the other western allies, so i think that in this case it will be used as a platform where this single position will be worked out, where i will work out this only a vision where all the main key arguments will be discussed at the political level a so that in the future this unison this unanimity is no longer interrupted , it could be transferred from the political platform of the munich conference directly to the practical plane and agreed specifically on in airplanes according to options according to delivery methods according to speed and so on well, that is, in fact, did i understand you correctly, if not, please correct me. so when we talked about the consequences, about the results

, so to speak, rammstein - 9 there said that the discussion continues regarding the aviation platform and it was, so to speak, a discussion in the state of more military experts than politicians, and the munich conference is probably primarily a political platform, and that is why our minister of foreign affairs , dmytro kuleba, is definitely there, we saw that it is political the position of our key allies on the supply of combat aircraft in ukraine consists in the fact that there should be another voice, that is, the west obviously does not want to repeat this variety of voices it was with tanks and it even got to the point that the western countries and our allies among themselves , well, not that they quarreled, but there were certain disputes because france, eh, i apologize to germany, not only we were criticized for the fact that it thinks rather slowly eh and nava dares to supply tanks to ukraine. germany also criticized britain and france and the united states and poland, of course, and the baltic states, so i think that now our

western partners want to avoid this situation as much as possible in order not to give the russian regime any reason to talk about what is there is some kind of split in the west, what is it, they can't come to an agreement there, they are always famous . and they will actually play political agreements in this context, well, this will be the foundation from which the experts will continue to work, that's interesting. surely you remember that in the 21st century, it is the munich site it became such a starting point for vladimir putin , who gave his famous speech there and in fact, it all started with this . the revenge of the russian empire, so to speak, in quotation marks, and further aggressive steps, is it interesting? now a coalition of western countries, not only western countries, all of whose participants have been invited to this upcoming discussion, they understand, er, all

the danger that the russian federation poses for the western world, not only now, but definitely. yes, we see it in individual positions. er of some of our western allies in the leading countries of the western world, uh, our closest neighbors , that is, in principle, uh, well, we uh, we have to understand that, in fact, western societies and western political military elites are passing through during this year of russia's war against ukraine, they are going through a kind of worldview crisis and worldview position crisis, how do they look at russia in general, its foreign security policy, and so on. and we actually see this transformation, it is colossal, that is, we must understand that this worldview, which is now collapsing, was formed by decades of trade with russia, russian money for gas, and so on

, in many different moments, which, for western years, allowed, well, retouched, so to speak, the aggressiveness of the russian regime and because of these videos, western elites perceived russia as an ally, and what was formed over decades is now collapsing as quickly as possible. it is clear that this will not happen in a month or six months or even in a year, but in a year of this aggressive war hot russia against ukraine, we saw that the western elite made a colossal step forward in understanding what russia is , what the russian regime is and what threat it poses to global problems. it was taras zoftenko, candidate of political science of the public council at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, international security expert of the democratic initiative foundation. let's go further and know that the european union is planning to introduce restrictions against several russian banks and some

individuals as part of the 10th package of sanctions against russia. bloomberg writes about this, its journalists refer to the draft proposals for a new package of sanctions against russia, i want to talk to the correspondent of radio svoboda zoryana stepanenko ms. zoryana congratulations to you thank you joined our broadcast, i know that many of you are also present at various international platforms where, in particular, such sanctions packages are discussed. it is about the evaluation, you know what to approve this 10th package of jubilee sanctions, it turns out that the european commission presented it today , it was planned to do this before the anniversary of the war, and i mean precisely to approve the package because the presentation differs in that the european commission simply puts forward its proposals. let's say it announces a set of measures that it proposes to implement further. the next stage

already begins. eu member states discuss everything among themselves. representatives of member states gather. as a rule, it is diplomats, ambassadors of eu member states , and they are edited and document, they think what to add and what to subtract from it, and let's say that after these discussions, the proposed sanctions packages are becoming stronger in some places and weaker in some places, option two occurs more often since it is enough let's say that the european union still has this association and it is 27 countries, and in order for the package to be approved , each country must agree, and there may be objections , their reluctance to agree with this or that measure. brussels saw such symbolism in introducing this 10 sensational package just before the war, i.e. mainly, it made such a sense, but i will say that the package itself, if we can judge from the measures that were put there, it is also, well,

maybe more symbolic than that to be really powerful because well, from my side, i am observing that there are no , i did not hear about the events presented by the exchange rate line, which you asked about in brussels, do you remember last week with a visit when ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi was there. we remember that he then a-a called on the partners to introduce sanctions against the russian nuclear industry, as well as the manufacturers of drone missiles, and there are no such measures, respectively, in the 10th sensational then and we understand that before the european commission officially publicly enters the arena with its with proposals, before that, it carries out such an internal check in order to feel the mood of the member countries, in order to understand in this way which solutions and proposals will find support, and which, accordingly, will not find support, so there are also no such measures against the manufacturers of drone missiles that volodymyr zelenskyy asked for and not limited to thank you and thank you for

the information that will come to us. this was zoryana stepanenko - a correspondent of radio svoboda . in a few minutes we will return to our air, so do not switch your future with your hands, protect yours, i protect my ukraine, the blue sky, the morning silence of the fields, i protect the traditions, the cossack land, i protect the borders of my country, my mother and father, my brothers, my wife , i protect my ukraine, we are the ones who were, and independent ukraine, i protect, i protect, i protect

, i protect because we understand that our main wealth is our people, that's why we are happy for every ukrainian and the ukrainians we managed to save because we know that there is no such thing as small help and we are ready to support to the best of our ability because the projectile in their shots only increases our

unity and desire for victory , in contrast to them, we will stand up, we will win, and we will refuse to leave the ruins. to be afraid, to reduce the level of stress, try to occupy the little one with moving games, you can involve other children who are nearby, do not forbid the child to ask questions or share memories allow him to speak and show emotions a after that, calm the baby down, tell us about the strength of our army and the victory of our state, now there are children's tales about the air defense of ukraine, in no case do not raise your voice, we continue our broadcast and now we will hear the traditional evening address of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi , i wish you good health, dear ukrainians, today

we have was such a day that can be called a preparatory preparatory for international events that will take place tomorrow the day after tomorrow, these days ukraine's position as always should be heard, so we feed our position so that guaranteed, it sounded. and before it was on this day, and with regard to a longer perspective , defense issues, economic issues, ideas of others, with an eye on the high lesson, we should conclude in such a way that it really feels that ukraine is moving well, mine, this concerns the preparation of our defense village, the supply of weapons for our of the state and our strategic initiative in the war, any attempt by russia to take the initiative must be broken. i am sure that we will do it, the enemy is already

losing so many of his men and so many of his forces it will soon be difficult for all of russia to find, for example, marines, and our task is to make sure that fewer and fewer are there and the desire to keep the ukrainian territories under occupation, the liberation of our land - this is the goal for the realization of which we work every day, today i held an economic meeting, also regarding preparations for spring, many questions, many, all concerning the economic recovery of ukraine creation of economic opportunities for our people and the agricultural sector a very acute issue of humanitarian demining of the earth at the level of the cabinet the ministers of ukraine have formed an interdepartmental working group that will ensure the activation of this activity of soil clearance from unexploded projectile mines. the government is preparing new significant steps in the deregulation of the ukrainian economy . businesses will receive simplification in dozens of directions

. this concerns the cancellation of various bureaucratic permits and licenses. steps i are being prepared in the direction of creation and preparation jobs, every job now in our country is an aid to our stability and is a way for our people to return to ukraine. the details will be presented at the government level, of course, a very meaningful conversation took place today, and regarding the direction of european integration, we are doing everything to prepare the start of negotiations on eu membership, in particular , we talked about it during the visit of the prime minister of sweden, it is sweden that currently chairs the european union, and we have and the necessary leader in this will be necessary in order to have negotiations on membership already this year ukraine feels the support of partners in this