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[000:00:00;00] and all of its expenditures are large-scale, these are the expenditures of the peacetime army, these are the expenditures that , on the one hand, are ongoing according to agreement, on the other hand, they are not aimed at making it the best weapon, but not that it is a weapon that is already available today and it was good enough. that is, it is the difference between better and good enough, and that is why all these figures are from the ministry of defense of ukraine. there , of course, there is the ukrainian ministry of defense. billions will go, thank you and the political scientist was with us, we are waiting for the conversation, natalya gumenyuk , head of the press center of the security and defense forces of the operational command south, ms. natalya
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we congratulate you until we hear you until we hear you now we hear you we hope well the enemy carried out another mass attack at night let's talk about it then what natalya gumenyuk said about the fact that the attack may be repeated during the day ms. natalya please tell us what to expect and what about the night arrivals, the details that we can already divulge. and we spoke with from the very beginning that the pause taken by the enemy between massive missile attacks can be from 10 to 14 people, but during this time it does not mean that the exclusion of absolutely any manifestation of such missile aggression or any other air aggression, in particular, we also noted that
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the enemy's tactics are searching for new approaches , because they understand that the air defense and force defense of ukraine works too effectively and their massive missile strikes , well, roughly speaking, are in the negative, they spend missiles and strike those that calculate they still can't although there are some hits and this can also calm them down a little they change tactics they add shaheds they use waves attack but currently we see that they have shortened the period of time between the previous mass missile attack to today's e but e and reduced the number the number of weapons used, the number of missiles used, almost three times that of the classes of missiles, which missiles were fired at
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ukraine tonight, and in the north it was attacked , in particular, from the black sea area with calibers e-e strikes were aimed at critical infrastructure objects, but all eight missiles that the frigate had on standby while in the black sea were destroyed by our air defense forces 6 in mykolaiv oblast, two over kherson oblast e, in parallel with the use of missiles from the sea , strategic aviation was working in the sky the enemy, which released other types of air -based missiles, was also used shahendi, this speaks of the search for new tactics in order to inflict maximum damage, in addition, our observation the enemy uses not only drones of the classic
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type, let's say, to which we are already used to, the mysterious bullets that they direct, well , let's say, behind the wind, that is, they launch everything at once, mrs. natalya, what kind of lies about which said andriy yarmak, the head of the president's office. he said that, in particular , the occupiers have changed their tactics and are now using fakes , and it's just these bullets or something else, we understand that now the role of electronics is very large and powerful in the use of identified targets the use of air defense is therefore particularly possible and some kind of intervention in order to depict false targets, in fact we track each target and try to hit each one and in which regions - these are the bullets appeared and in which regions they were destroyed, i can talk about
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the south for now that if earlier , two days ago, they talked about such bullets in central ukraine and its northern regions , then yesterday they appeared in the south, but again, it was more related to the direction of moldova there where moldova closed the airspace, including taking into account that due to drone interference in its airspace, in our area of responsibility , the same bullets were recorded as in central ukraine, apparently those who tried to calculate the air defense systems, the secretary of the nsdc , oleksiy danilov, said that russia is preparing for 23- on february 24, to launch a massive missile attack on ukraine. do you have any information on what to expect, calculating the tactics
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of the enemy, we can predict that it is quite likely from the 22nd to the 24th. when in russia again in sacredly appointed e-e relevant events of the highest state level e-e they can be accompanied by such methods of terror that the enemy in particular uses as a rule during this full-scale invasion as an accompaniment to its events or as a response to e unification of the world community against their activities nataliya well, what about the south, in particular , about kherson oblast, here is the report of the regional military administration that over the past day , kherson oblast was shelled 52 times, and peaceful settlements suffered from shelling from rssm mortars artillery tanks drones kherson was attacked by the russian army 21 times aimed at residential quarters, shells also hit the botanical garden and homes
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of kherson residents, unfortunately, three people were injured of varying degrees of severity, what else can you add to this, i ask, and this increase in such pressure is connected precisely with the narratives that the enemy promotes in the information space that in the south the same aggravation is predicted as in the east, therefore they are trying to strengthen these means of terror against the local population and we also record on the left bank where they are located directly and shelling populated areas with their own types of weapons directly from the south of this region . by the very actions of the occupiers, when they leave a populated place in order to move away from it and fire
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, simulating an attack by the defense forces of ukraine, but our people know very well that the security forces do not work on peaceful objects and our shelling of that territory, they are aimed and precisely identified by coordinates, and not such a carpet as the enemy allows himself on the right bank, where they cover themselves with valuable fire, e. they have surface watercraft. all that can be found on the left bank, since our work on equipped e-e such bridgeheads for sabotage reconnaissance groups has been quite
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effective over the past day. we are also three such boats were destroyed, which the enemy had already set up for sabotage and reconnaissance groups, and we continue work on those observation points and deployment or logistics points that they are setting up little by little on these islands, trying to advance to this territory so that the shelling extends not only to the coast of the right bank well, to conclude briefly, in balta , odesa, odesa region, the city of balta was unfortunately injured yesterday as a result of a grenade detonation . a 15-year-old girl, a resident, saw an unknown object on the window the ebbs of her own house were thrown down the street she threw it several meters and then it exploded as a result she received multiple lacerations on her legs and stomach she was hospitalized in a moderate condition well , how do you explain to the local residents that one should be very careful with military
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supplies in war conditions please yes we constantly emphasize that stabilization measures apply not only to the recently occupied territories of mykolaiv oblast, kherson oblast, they apply to absolutely our entire area of responsibility because, unfortunately, the enemy's subversive intelligence activities are advancing in all regions of ukraine. they are trying to destabilize the situation at the level of internal communication of the population at the social level, so that it is increased levels of anxiety of parents for their children or increased danger in some areas , for example, adjacent to the border, as well and in this situation, the appearance of an unknown object of such an explosion is dangerous. again, this is the work of law enforcement officers. the reason is where and how it
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appeared. and why did this situation happen? we we emphasize that every time such an object is detected, it is necessary to protect yourself, to allocate a territory that cannot be approached and to inform the competent authorities. another great ukrainian city. thank you, nataliya humenyuk, for directly including us in our studio . thank you, the command of the south. another ufo was recorded, probably the balloon is moving from north to south well, it may have flown away, it is possible that the people of pribuli are there when you like, well, maybe, and we are moving on. we invite our next guests yevgenia kravchuk to the conversation, she is already with us, yes, people's
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deputy of ukraine, deputy of the committee on humanitarian and information policy , we welcome you, good in the morning, and volodymyr vyatrovych is also with us, we are glad to see the people's deputy of ukraine, a member of the council's committee on humanitarian and information policy good day good day let's talk about the petition regarding the renaming of russia to muscovy has already received the required number of votes, mr. volodymyr, what kind of petition is it for, why is it needed? what do you think, people have a desire for historical justice to return russia, but on the other hand, the problem is that this kind of the issue is not regulated at the legislative level, there is no law that can be changed or that can be adopted, which is just to change the name of another country, this is a matter of tradition, in principle, if you are ready for such a gradual
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change of tradition, then perhaps this petition will be an additional impetus to talk about russia, the stolen name from ukraine, because i will remind you that russia is only the greek greek version of the ukrainian name rus, but there are no simple solutions to this issue. because of some legislative changes , voting in the parliament is how do we do it with the renaming of populated areas, volodymyr, i would go further, i would immediately call the golden horde or ulus juchi or whatever it was called, and it was also fair with mongolia, from yegor we will have di diplomatic ones , they will also say that it is their stolen property historical heritage unfortunately, you see, the modern russian federation is a collection of stolen historical heritage. that is why you need to understand that you are groping for something specifically moscow . well, it is not so easy to understand who has been groped. well , it was registered by zhori vitaly yaroslavovych. who is the initiator? it's just a private person . yes, it's not me. public organization mrs.
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yevgenia how do you feel about this initiative, what do people propose to what extent is it appropriate, well , it is proposed to change official documents in particular, i know what it is, well, if all that in within the borders of our state, do we need it? i think we should talk about some things that we can change and we must change and uh, really, obviously we can use it in the media and in our social posts, but uh it won't change any kind of objective picture, but well, look, if it's going to be a very massive one from the ukrainian people, yes, it's possible when we sign the capitulation, when russia signs the capitulation, and in this agreement, we'll write that it's there our demand well, i can only react to it in this way, and well, of course, there are cases when countries there change their names and this is then reflected
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in international documents, but they do it well, let's say so voluntarily or in good faith - voluntarily-industrially, it happened with e-e, for example, with macedonia, which had to change its name in northern macedonia in order to become a member of a-a nato and e-e in the authurtsia, by the way , now, by the way, on e asks to be called turks in international documents and sent everyone an official letter that it should be so. i just read the description er, what is in this petition, russia is a name that the muscovites stole from kyivan rus, the authors wrote, therefore, i propose to restore historical justice and rename russia to muscovy. well, in the future, write down and address in all official documents and as muscovites, well, and about one more renaming e- e renaming the kharkiv regional council has asked you , the members of parliament, to rename the village of vatutine for
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the kharkiv region to zaluzhnye novo vodolazhny district of the kharkiv region , by the way, almost 1,500 people live there , volodymyr, should it be done, i support it the renaming of the village of vatutine, but i am not ready to support its transfer to zaluzhnye, considering that we are talking about a living person and it is obvious that this is a violation of both legislation and tradition, it is not quite right to rename it in honor of those people who, thank god, are still alive, i am convinced that i regulate i am convinced that there is not much to do in order to become a hero of ukrainian history. may god give him even more life and then we will be absolutely grateful to him for and for the things that have been done so far and that will be done in the future i.e. there is no possibility to rename the population points in honor of those people who are alive, that you can't them, but who in general so , why don't you see in zaluzhnye, there is a demand for new heroes among ukrainians, that's very good, there's
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a request, that's normal, that's right i exaggerated, i'm convinced that commander-in-chief valeriy zaluzhny and many of those who now defend ukraine with weapons in their hands absolutely deserve to be considered a hero, but there are different forms of honoring heroes, this is not necessarily a renaming or an attitude of some kind monuments in my life i can't find the only thing, but it's not all my life in atutin was called the old name, i can't find the name of this village , evgenia, your position on this matter, well , look at it from the point of view that the community as a whole has the right and it is so the procedure in the she and m-m are constantly engaged in the verkhovna rada from time to time we vote for a resolution to change
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the attack to be committee no, there isn't the meadow there is the vilkhuvatka river nearby, it is vatutino on the vilkhuvatka river, but there is already a village with that name . let's move on to other topics. the court allowed the demolition of the kiosk church. i would say uoc mp near the museum of the history of ukraine on the site of the tithe church. the church, this temple, the kiosks, i understand it, the economic court of kyiv satisfied the lawsuit of the national museum of the history of ukraine regarding the building on the territory of the museum, it is about the chapel, which the uoc mp calls the men's monastery of tithes, the number of christmas or the mother of god, the court decided to remove the obstacles use of a plot of land and vacate an arbitrarily occupied plot by demolishing it at the expense of the religious community, i.e. mr. volodymyr. how is that? no , let ’s start with you, mrs. no. you are the representative of the government. what do you think about this decision , when it will be implemented, please, well, i understand that there are still some deadlines for the appeal
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, but it is not obvious that the legal part is there very well, well, it is also prepared for this the ministry of culture and information policy was involved, i congratulate of course this is a court decision. here is what else you need to understand . this is the center of kyiv, that is, the unesco sights in general. well, this is the process that i don't think should happen. it can't be. to build arbitrarily, especially in the historical part of the city , and i don’t know about the funds. i think that here, if it is necessary , it is here very quickly on crowdfunding . well, in the end it will be possible to implement this court decision or something public funds, but in fact, the issue here is broader, because well, it is, in the case of this
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mafia, and, for example, i think that society also worries about what, well, how to return it to state property, but to terminate the lease, for example of the kyiv-pechersk lavra, and as far as i know, the ministry of culture and information policy has already conducted an inspection of illegal construction and demolition and construction on the territory of the lower lavra, and there is a violation there. i hope that we will know about the violation publicly and this will have legal consequences, mr. volodymyr. well, your position, uh, is this a long history of fighting this illegal mafia, or will it end, and most importantly, in what time frame do you think? well, i just think that they will defend themselves there until the very end. including the use of combat monks of the russian orthodox church there , my prediction, please, in any case, i am sure that this is already a story that has finally
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reached a completely different stage, because i will first remember that it was many years of struggle of the museum for this landmark protected territory, which was built absolutely illegally, was the story of the struggle of the public, who tried to bring the attention of the authorities to this very gross violation of the monument protection legislation , in the end we have a court decision . and the decision of the appellate instance will also be in favor of the fact that this small architectural form must be removed, as for someone's resources for this, i think that even if everything has been announced, the public can to compensate for the lack of funds for the dismantling of this entire kiosk and one more topic we wanted to discuss with you, uh, paint it, regarding the exclusion of uh, the subject of history from this uh, test for
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school graduates uh, what is it for why, vladimir, let's start with you as a professional historian, is it possible to exclude this subject right now? we are talking about the national cartoon subject test, that is, the test that entrants stand, but you are right that we do not have history in the state final state final attestation , that is, these final exams because there is no they are simply excellent in this function. so we understand that we live especially in the conditions of a full-scale war, so in principle i will support that the road accident is canceled and we only have this national multi-subject test and in principle last year we were absolutely calm and supported this initiative considering that in year in the national cartoon subject test, history was a mandatory subject. unfortunately, this year the ministry of education initiated changes to the national
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multiple subject test and history was signed in those subjects that can be chosen voluntarily and is not mandatory even for representatives of those autorgents who are preparing for humanitarian specialties . i consider it wrong, categorically wrong , considering our own just once again full-scale invasion of war, we take into account the war in the circumstances of how it should be arranged as easily as possible, this testing itself is simpler, but i am convinced that the circumstances other than the war should also be taken into account in the context of what subjects should be, er, the ukrainian language remains, well i'm sorry, why do we have sinuses now, if it comes to that, when it comes to the fact that the name is even russia, they stole it from us, you know , putin started this war by declaring that we and then started this war because he thinks that
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ukraine, historically, neither ukraine nor ukrainians existed. therefore, it is obvious that in order to be stronger in order to repel this aggression , we obviously need to understand the difference between ukrainians and russians, and this difference is revealed. you don't think so, so let's just be practical now. let's see how the multi-subject test goes. i understand that it was shortened to three hours from four because of the missile attacks there. that is, there is an hour per subject. what is it during this test ? it's not an interview, you don't tell the connection, you don't tell what's there. russia is actually muscovy when the test is given. and when the applicant prepares for this test, he studies there. in the case of mathematics, i 'm sure that she should stay in there will be no engineers, there will be no one to build there our rockets, uh, rebuilding the infrastructure and
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so on, we have to uh, well, apply humanitarian subjects to engineers. well, i myself am a humanitarian, i went to the history olympiads , it's great, well, always, well, i was pleased that there are children there who know well, for example, mathematics. i knew her worse well, i learned there, it seems to me that history is, in addition, history, well, we study it in schools and er, it is er, it is about this test for one hour and unfortunately, the story for the test turns into a task of dates but to fill it, the children just sit and teach to give and i don't know how much it is, er, just about er, about that, so, er, understanding, er, you see , volodymyr was not interrupted, but i really see that you want to interrupt me, but well, give me this anyway, that's why i understand what i'm holding the discussion in the specialized committee, by the way, we are not in the specialized committee , although p volodymyr, he submits corrections there and that is correct, because i believe
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that people who understand corrections in this, and it is about what these three subjects are . for example, i am categorically against this mathematics you did not rule out and my colleagues say, for example from the educational committee that a doctor is a doctor, or rather an applicant who wants to become a doctor , he obviously has to choose biology or chemistry, not history . to reduce this number of subjects for the multi-subject test, then, well, obviously, this is a logical decision during the war, but history must be taught. these are all historical programs, so we must concentrate on this now, and uh, i will ask the teachers, well, through the education committee for the resolutions of the pair changed the teaching history in the temporarily occupied territories, because this is a sign of how ukrainian identity
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was tried to be destroyed. i hope that i will use these data for the resolution of the couple . it is correct that you can exclude mathematics, biology , physics there, and uh, stegonometry . what then is the ukrainian language in this exercise cartoon subject test students about what mr. volodymyr said what should children learn - this is a wide range of subjects i think , for example, in english we need more now let's talk about the ukrainian language ukrainian language history of ukraine key subjects basic engineers let them choose mathematics then , mr. yatrovych, please i would not contrast history or mathematics because mathematics is needed in order to build rockets and history is needed in order to know where to direct these rockets so that they didn't fly , it's absolutely possible to talk about the stories of one and the other, that's why it seems to me that the position that we need to shorten something
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, let's shorten the story, is wrong especially considering the fact that i remind you that we do not have a state final certification , that is, school graduates do not pass history, we do not know the level of their level of knowledge , unfortunately, we do not have history as a mandatory subject of higher education, which was changed during the previous previous ones prime minister, that is also absolutely wrong, so unfortunately what we are currently witnessing is the cooling of these subjects that form national identity, and let me remind you that previously in our country , i also considered the ukrainian language and literature to be an important subject of knowledge of ukrainian literature and is also extremely important for understanding the cultural context for the formation of national identity. unfortunately, we are now witnessing such a gradual, you know , abandonment of those subjects that form national identity and that form a citizen. evgenia, please answer . i think that we need to concentrate on educational programs for the study of history, because uh
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, if we reduce the formation of national identity exclusively to a one-hour multi-subject test, then i guess that's it we are moving in the wrong direction, because it ends, why do they teach us to give what i said about the luminaries and well, what’s more , you know who in our country said that even after february 24, immediately in our place children study history by watching out the window, well, children study everything like that. looking out the window, but the exam stimulates to a certain extent and there is a basis that the main main thing is language, history vyatrovych, please, well , the exam actually demonstrates what we managed to achieve, you understand that everything is not so simple here . let's just study, but do not check in the end, we will know that an athlete, no matter how much he prepares, in the end, his knowledge, his skills, and all that he has acquired, he demonstrates at some competitions, yes , these are the competitions where we see.
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that any form of history testing is necessary in order to stimulate the study of history, so i would not separate either study or testing. no, this is absolutely unrelated . we agree. well, this is a motivation. we know that what the exam topics are taught is more and meticulous also volodymyr yatrovych people's deputy of ukraine yevgenia kravchuk people's deputy of ukraine thank you very much for this, well, it's important and we need a discussion, we need to talk about all these things , talk about them with us . colleagues, thank you for this edition , i will tell you about the consequences of the night terror of ukrainians by the russians and the visit of the israeli
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