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[000:00:00;00] well, the equipment that is in storage in belarus is also, and thirdly, belarus is a site where the russians train , carry out this training of their own and mobilized and partially wagner, and also carry out the assembly and combat coordination of their parts of the remnants of the regular army, from there it is all sent then to the east, that is, in principle, it cannot be said that belarus, refusing to send its troops to directly participate in this war against ukraine, does not help the russians in any way. it was possible to add to it and it was successful. and does he have room for maneuver now or will he press? i think that the pressure will increase , but it will most likely be such a personal pressure, yes, between these two geopolitical strategies, yes, or again,
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political and the political propaganda pressure from the russian federation. it is very uncomfortable because, again, the narratives that lukashenko throws into this propaganda space are based on the russian fairy tale that they are fighting with nato for rare the russian regime is not yet ready to break the negatives and, er, well, considering what will potentially er, putin can talk about now and what he talked about before that, yes, because he himself confirmed that there, well, it is the collective west of nato and it will be very difficult and almost impossible for the russian regime to disprove this further, that is, if the russian leader hopes to pressure the current leader of belarus, then this can most likely be done purely on a personal level, we are all on some kind of public plane because which is actually public the dialogue between these two figures, from this point of view, has absolutely zero value in the past, because, well, again
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, the belarusian regime and lukashenko personally feel this nuance of russian propaganda very well and played very well on it and continues to play it, i think that this will happen even until the very last moment. thank you, mr. tarasa zoftenko , expert on international security of the fund and democratic initiatives named after ilha kucheryava , member of the public council at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine. well, we will inform you about the most important 3 p.m. 31 minutes are working in the studio anna valevska well, i'm ready to join our conversation mykhailo gonchar, president of the center for global studies, strategy 21, an expert on energy issues mykhayly, we congratulate you good day good day i congratulate you both well, nato has taken over the security of critical underwater infrastructure and it's not for nothing that they done, we understand that now in odesa the enemy has used a drone, so to speak, to blow up or attempt to blow up a bridge
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, and on the other hand, we understand that the story regarding the investigation of the mysterious september explosion in the northern streams to the second one under the northern one or around this gas pipeline. so now they launched the laureate of the politskov prize from seymuraharsh, that is, a person with a name, so to speak. well , he launches absolutely such a wild newspaper duck on the topic that norwegian scuba divers together with american special services blew up nordstream-2 although there was no point in blowing it up because nord stream-2 was blocked as a result of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine and had been idling , so to speak, for more than
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half a year, mr. mykhailo. underwater surface safety and the case-say of the murahersha is so interesting. well, look there, the northern one was also blown up, let's start with this marahesha, what's wrong here? actually, the bet was made with the customers of this publication in the name and authority of 85 -year-old laureate of the police prize, there is not only the police, he has others, if you analyze the text, one thing is actually thrown into others eight times during the text, which is signed by seymour, the first to mention cheap or inexpensive russian gas eight times for such with regard to the great text, well, do you agree? this is done too much, because you emphasize the motive of the american side in this kind of sabotage, and the norwegian one, too. because
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both norway and the united states said and these are competitors of russia on the european market, because they sell their expensive natural gas there , and therefore, accordingly if the reader were led to the opinion that yes , well, the motives were in the americans especially and they have the possibilities. it did not end, and for the americans, in fact, this story would not be so important. well, because nordstream was lying and gas would be the closest to them, well, in the near term , it is about a few years, it is unlikely to go . meanwhile, in any case, the markets would reorient themselves, but if you look back to the safety of underwater communications and , so to speak, heightened scrupulous attention to this matter on the part of the euro-atlantic community. in your opinion, what threats are possible, because
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it is not for nothing that russian pirates give out certain signals from time to time and it is seriously considered the story that they can try to interrupt the lines of transatlantic underwater communication is already more serious, it is the same here before your question, one more thing about this article, it is easier to judge not only by what is written there, but also by what is not there figuratively speaking, not everything that is written and looks believable is true, so in the hash article, for some reason, one interesting detail was overlooked, which was noticed by experts from the face-new american company, e-e, when they investigated the situation surrounding the actual detonation
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flows. this company specializes in satellite monitoring. they noted that just in those days, on the eve of the explosions in nature on september 26, two large vessels were spotted with their identification system turned off . he does not mention this. not a word why , but because the real authors of helja’s article perfectly understood that these vessels were russian and , in fact, under and therefore if this fact had been ignored. and now returning to your question precisely in our work of the center for global studies, strategy 21, which we did in the fall of last year, which was made public at the end of the year, we indicate there that suspicious underwater activity on the part of the russian side was observed at
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the final stage of the construction of nord stream-2, and in this context, even there a couple of names of military officers are given - naval forces of the baltic fleet of russia who were involved in this unusual activity of a group of 18 people who were not registered on any of the ships of the technical fleet, in particular, there were rescue vessels and multifunctional e-e vessels that were, so to speak, in the general composition of vessels that actually contributed to flow-2, that is, their mission was clearly not described in the fact that e-e happened directly with the construction of pipelines e and this precisely indicates that
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in advance points were chosen where, under certain conditions, explosive devices could be planted, there is no doubt that this team had no idea what it would be for , they were not interested in it, so this was a task that was set, so to speak, from the center, and in this context it should be kept in mind not only there let's say which gas pipelines well, in fact, there are not so many in the sea , although there are a lot of them in the north sea between the norwegian people in britain and the european continent . primarily through the north atlantic between europe and north america, and nato has now paid attention to this problem, as if it were a practical plan , but in fact, so to speak, the bell has been ringing
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there since the 15th year, when the american admiral in tauridis drew attention to what in fact, these underwater communications that connect europe and america are not protected in any way. and at the same time, there is intense underwater activity in russia, and it is in deep water, because the depths there are serious, on the order of four kilometers, and this is such an underwater activity that ordinary submarines cannot carry because they have a diving depth of a few hundred meters, well 600 , that is, special submersibles are used, and this is definitely, roughly speaking, in 7 years , if we take the 15th year as a starting point, when the problem was already identified as serious. well, now nato is paying attention to this in practical terms, but it is indisputable that it is possible to state that there is a certain lag between a-a and e-e
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in solving those tasks that are now arising in connection with the need to protect critical infrastructure, because if russia had not wasted these 7 years, it would have used this is for the development of its toolkit for underwater activity, we are talking here not only about special submarines, but also about if the corresponding contingent is in which works as part of the main department of deep-sea research, which this department is no less by the classified structure of the ministry of defense of russia than the famous game or simply the general directorate of times and this is an extremely important moment a-a because it was precisely the events of september 26 of the undermining of the northern streams of both that showed that
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uh, it's not just any risks there, threats of danger, it's an absolutely practical thing that already russia is using e-e in its own interests , in this case it is a demonstration of a’s determination and in principle, the longer the e-e investigation drags on, what happened and who did it specifically, the more it plays into its hands telling the russian side about what they see. so, in the west , they don't want to publicize the real picture, so then they will have to take real measures to implement it, and to take real measures means going to confrontation and escalation. and this is what they are trying to avoid at all costs
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from the side of cars and countries in which row thank you, mr. mykhailo, for the always high-quality and extremely useful analysis mykhailo gonchar, president of the center for global studies, strategy 21, an expert on energy issues, about extremely difficult additional threats that can affect you all wait already praised the resolution on the anniversary of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, this very resolution calls on countries to seriously consider providing the armed forces of ukraine with fighter helicopters and missile systems and to strengthen the international isolation of russia up to its exclusion from the un security council. on the eve of the possibility of providing these weapons, in particular, we will talk with valery ryabikh, military expert, editor of the publication, watch express will join us well and first of all, february 16 is the day of the ukrainian military journalist, and on this day
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we honor the memory of our colleagues who paid the highest price for the truth for their work. so, let's remember them with a minute of silence. well, let's watch a small plot after that, a bright memory to the military to the journalists of those who died while performing their duties. yes, for the money of the whistle, such a scumbag was caught without the front line at the beginning of the great war in ukraine , 13 thousand journalists work in the combat zone, almost half of them are foreigners, the murder became a high-profile case photojournalist max levin, accompanied by military officer oleksiy chernyshov, on march 13, the photographer went to
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the kyiv region to document the crimes of the occupiers in the investigation of the organization reporters without borders concluded that men could torture and execute russian soldiers, his body with several bullet wounds was found in a forest in the kyiv region in march 2022, the network broke up a video of the russians shelling the evacuation column in irpen with mortars was filmed by the front-line reporter and photographer andrii dubchak, then the whole group died in front of his eyes the family when one of the shifts was already hit some meters 80 meters away from us in the courts of the house, i realized that well, they are aiming exactly along this corridor along this road along which they exit from civilian clothes, i was with the times lens at the time and it hit me in the neck very hard, some kind of attention hit me leg when we approached this deceased family, that is, i saw the faces of these children who were dying before my eyes. it was very painful for me to watch death itself in real time . andriy showed us his car, on which
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traces of shelling were left in the car, the man always keeps only the necessary immediately after car repair the reporter will go again to film the events in donetsk region, the wreckage there on the mountain hit the hood, the car was very important at the front, this is something that helps save lives , i have two spares, i have a supply of food , fuel, turnstiles in the cabin well, but it is not armored, that is why it is necessary nevertheless, take into account the fact that you should choose some safe ways, and before working on the front line , media workers must undergo special training , undergo safety training and first aid training, the second is to have the accreditation of the armed forces of ukraine 3 to have protective equipment
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individual maintain communication maintain contacts with colleagues have e-phones e-e helplines and hotline phones , including the hotline of the national union of journalists of ukraine journalists at the front rarely neglect their own safety reckless risks can become fatal today i see very often that journalists underestimate the risks and slip in where it shouldn't be we think that if this happens, it won't happen to me this is a mistake and the second mistake is the uh that everyone assumes if it happens to me i i will be ready, and you can be prepared, but you do not know your reaction at the moment when this happens to you, all the necessary means of protection are free of charge, and the national union of journalists of ukraine provides personal protective equipment for use by those journalists who go to cover the situation at the front in bulletproof vests
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, the tactical first-aid kits of these bulletproof vests are made to order from unesco and the international federation of journalists, and these bulletproof vests weigh only 6 kg compared to those they received the first two months after invasion. it was 12 kg and it was difficult for our colleagues, especially when women work. now we have different sizes depending on the needs of journalists. we can choose for them a suitable set of ammunition. during the performance of professional duties, three of them are ukrainian and five are foreign. this is reported in the institute of mass information, and at least one journalist in every sixth editorial office of ukraine
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takes part in hostilities natalya old law dmytro didora oleksandr burlevych for the espresso tv channel. thank you colleagues for this story. well, we inform you about the most important, in particular, the secretary of the national security council oleksiy daniilo in an interview with the bbc said that after the failure to capture the whole of ukraine, the kremlin is hatching a plan b proposal for which a pro-russian politician and putin's best man victor medvedchuk i quote in russia now the task is to make the so-called korean option, they have already understood in the kremlin that they will completely seize our country they cannot and they will now make plan b when they will do so the so-called second ukraine, the secretary of the nsdc said that the plan was proposed by medvedchuk himself, this plan was brought there by a madman medvedchuk medvedchuk thinks that he is a professional person in ukraine, but he is not, explained the secretary of the nsdc , so we add to the conversation valery ryabykh, military expert, editor of the defense express publication
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valery, congratulations of the day glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, we are talking about possible new plans now let's start with this plan and the plan for the evening what other plans are there? what else can putin do before the anniversary of the invasion well, in particular, we understand that all their plans, mr. valery, are additionally measured in manpower and, of course, in the missiles in which they are preparing for strikes on our territory, so we understand that now again several russian ships are circling the black sea with the corresponding caliber and so on. well, yes the last chance to convert this unprovoked aggression into the maximum possible benefits for yourself , based on the not very good
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situation in which both the russian leadership and the russian military are now that's why there are similar plans for the so-called korean option when someone here can decide something based on what ukraine will be like, they can be in a state of delirium in the kremlin, but for now, in view of the statements that were made during the same meeting of the contact group on issues of ukraine, it can be concluded that such options are not considered by ukraine or our partners until possible implementation, it was clearly stated that an international violator of international law and a terrorist should be punished, therefore
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that this impunity can lead to the final breakdown of the system of international relations and international law, and in fact, at the moment, we see the unity of the western world in supporting our country in its just aspirations to liberate all temporarily occupied territories of ukraine and return to the internationally recognized borders of ukraine and others, on which all the efforts of ukraine and our partners are currently directed, so in essence, they can say whatever they want, but create, but their implementation does not depend on them, so happened on this historical passage. and as for missiles, with each similar missile attack, which they were not there, they are very sophisticated, these missiles are becoming
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smaller and smaller, and for example, the caliber that you mentioned now is in the arsenals at all the aggressor countries are very, very few. as of the end of january, it was said that only 9% of the arsenal of these missiles was in the russian federation, and it was from 500 pieces. what was at the beginning of this aggression ? we are talking about several dozen. and now there are let's put it this way to the point that 50 missiles can be located and let's say that's why we see that these missiles are used artificially as part of massive missile attacks and more and more the enemy is using them for example a week on
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half-blind terrorist 22 that fly where they will want to with a maximum circular deviation from 500 m to 2 km, and here we can talk about the fact that these missiles can have some military purpose in ordinary equipment, well, it is not about that, so the enemy uses all the other means available, including rotten ones yesterday's politicians, but it is unlikely to help them in this situation, the minister of defense of germany noted that it will be difficult for the western allies to assemble the two battalions of tanks promised to ukraine in the leopard-2. so far, there are only 17 new leopards, two from germany and portugal, and
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another 30 old ones from poland, but they need repair, how to understand such statements, well, look, i understand these statements, i take them optimistically, and why because the pedantic germans set out to methodically solve the task to which all er countries urged them and therefore er well, let's say it is i have a firm belief that, after all, germany, having aspirations to be the leader of free europe, will be able to solve this task and assemble at least one battalion of modern leopard-2 tanks in the version of at least h6, and before that, it will use these are similar statements and good diplomatic pressure and, let's say, the encouragement of those countries that have the same leopard tanks , two, well, that means that to some extent these countries also depend on germany, that's why
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the word play is not to mislead eh the commitment made by our partners will be fulfilled. yesterday , for example, during a joint press conference with jens stolb, the same addressee said that nato countries should hand over to the armed forces of ukraine such a number of tanks that i should have enough for the formation of at least one tank brigade, and it seems to me that he said this about modern leopard 2 tanks. yes , one battalion can consist of leopard 2a4 tanks, and most likely poland can work on this at the moment, in which there is enough the amount of ammunition for these tanks and she has not yet announced the transfer of one company . and as for the number, based on what president duda said, he can say
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, well, at least about a brigade to a battalion composition, according to the nato statistics of the same poland, and this anyway, according to the smallest calculations, it can be up to 18 tanks, so in essence we understand that at the moment all these words are evidence of those processes. about and force others and that i hope that the task that the partners themselves have undertaken will be fulfilled
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, ukraine will receive all the necessary weapons and military equipment on time the international institute for strategic studies voiced the following story that russia lost about 50% of its pre-war fleet of modern t-72b3 t-72b b3m tanks, what about their tanks, do they have the opportunity to renew the fleet, well, look at this story of the so-called special russian the federation threw into battle all of its more prepared and equipped, according to the modern word, as the kremlin imagines the techniques of these tanks , you 72 b3 e-e, also the kantomir division there and other e-e tank units of the western military district of the southern military district that were re-equipped on new tanks, and in essence, they rushed er
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, so they and the gorillas er very skillfully in the first period of the war, because in essence the matter lies with the kremlin and the military leadership of the russian federation, well, they made a little mistake with er directions the conduct of this operation and its capabilities and this matter, all the equipment was burned on the marches by mobile groups using the means that we received from our partners, as a whole , it is estimated by the institute for the study of e-e war that somewhere from two to thousands of e-e russian tanks were destroyed two thousand 300 such tanks, well, such figures, they can be so approximate, but this indicates that the russian federation has lost its main potential of modernized tanks, which is supported
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by the fact that on these tanks, practically recalling those of western analytics, why are they called modern, because they have the same sights as the french electronics of western production, and what gives them the characteristics of modern tanks , and in fact, at the moment, the same capabilities of the russian federation well, at the moment, they have looked into the possibilities of artificial production of tanks like the 90 and the possibility of modernization and restoration, but not to such ultra-modern
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