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, today in the issue, russia is drawing aviation to the ukrainian borders and changing the tactics of the war . this is reported by the media with reference to both western and russian sources, what does this mean, we will talk soon, oleksandr lukashenko is again going to see putin in russia. on the agenda, he said the issue of security before the trip to putin, he gathered foreign journalists and said that belarus is not going to introduce its troops into the territory of ukraine, and the belarusian army will join the war only, they say, in the event of aggression from ukraine, like this understand well , let's go back to the subpoenas again. ukrainians continue to publish videos on social networks in which military commissars walk the streets and serve subpoenas . svoboda life due to full-scale military russian aggression in ukraine, general mobilization and martial law have been introduced, military servicemen are subject to mobilization

, conscripted men from 18 to 60 years old, they receive summonses at their address of residence or catch up in public places, this is common knowledge, but sometimes the delivery of summonses is rather strange . "by the way, the other day a video appeared on the network in which men dressed in camouflage uniforms roughly knocked a man in civilian clothes to the ground near a public bus stop transport in odesa according to eyewitnesses. it was the process of serving a summons. well, if the operational command of the south reacted to this service of a summons in odessa , they promised that the heads of the regional and district territorial centers of recruitment and social support would be brought to disciplinary action . the behavior of servicemen in the south was called incorrect, but what actually admitted that this was indeed the moment of serving the summons, in

recent weeks, only a few similar cases have entered the public space. well, for example, also in odesa, six soldiers twisted a man and pushed him into a minibus, he was screaming, but he could not do anything, after publicity in the odesa regional assembly center, they promised to conduct an official inspection, nothing extraordinary is happening, instead, systematic and planned work continues to replenish the losses of the troops - he said recently in an interview ukrainian pravda publication minister of defense oleksiy reznikov, answering the question of how permissible it is to serve summonses in public places if a man of conscription age is seen he is alive and well, he is given a summons, he is obliged to appear, this does not mean that tomorrow he will be a domain , documents must appear in communication, he can say yes , and i am actually my age. well, i am conscripted, but there or i have medical conditions or i have four children. well, there are some reasons. okay, come show me and so on. so

, on the one hand, in ukraine, summonses are handed out on the street, in shopping centers, in public transport, and this infuriates people, especially if it is done by violent methods. i no longer i am talking about the fact that such incidents are actively picked up by russian propaganda, on the other hand, at the end of january, volodymyr zelensky announced the formation of a military reserve so that the soldiers at the front could rest . that's what we'll talk about now , and that broadcast is joined by the head of the joint press center of the south operational command nataliya humenyuk, we are greetings to you glory to ukraine i congratulate you glory to the heroes well, let's go let's start with those incidents in odesa, because the operational command of the south, one of them, accurately commented. what do you know about these incidents of serving summonses in odesa , so to speak, to say what they just showed ? what happened there? why did it happen in this way? we commented on more than one incident.

everyone reacted and indeed the command , in particular the operational command of the south , condemns such behavior when it does not meet the general established norms , but we understand that this is an emotional impact, this is an emotional reaction of the employees themselves territorial centers of recruitment, they are subject to their actions are subject to official inspection and the official investigation is being conducted specifically for this incident, the incident that we are currently observing is being conducted by the military service of law and order, and the guilt of each participant in this event will be determined. they have already received a disciplinary charge from the commander of the regional tcc isp because it was

insufficient work in relation to the organization, in particular i.e. insufficiently trained personnel, insufficiently instructed qualitatively, control over their activities is not fully ensured, these are organization-wide such issues at the moment. the armed forces of ukraine , the defense forces of ukraine as a whole, but we remember that we need to replenish mobilization resources, you are correct quoted the president who appealed to the entire population , including those who make up this mobilization resource, regarding the conscious attitude towards the fulfillment of their obligation, at the moment we are still observing

a certain drop in enthusiasm among this category of the population who, as they say, have already understood for themselves that can fully coexist in civilian life even in the conditions of war and do not rush to come to the recruitment center to provide information about themselves, indeed, many have documents for reasons hm to get a postponement of er involvement in mobilization and they can provide it in a completely legal way in the established order and avoid the very mobilization that they do not want. here they called the actions of the military commissariat employees in odesa in odesa region emotional, you know . it seems to me that this is a little more than just emotionality. i don't know if there was a moment of anger let the court decide, but

it's definitely not just emotionalism. and what kind of behavior is it that we see part of the video, part of it is the part that the public wanted to submit to the thing that they managed to film in including that they didn't have time to film, they had time to film much more, but the public serves only what will be tasty with food. i'm sorry for what was actually there , as part of the official investigation, including studying the full format of the video, which is, in particular , on body cameras, which we are equipped with, these groups , etc. the previous behavior of the perpetrator of this incident. she is quite provocative . she is quite incorrect

. the conclusions made will be drawn on the basis of these results. i want to say that we are looking for this man, whom we see on the video in civilian clothes, we have not yet found him, but we will definitely find him and invite him to speak. you said that every employee of the military commissariat has body cameras, that is, practically every such group is equipped with a group, we are working on it, since it is not a mandatory element, but understanding that this is how events can develop, we er used it as a way of warning in order to really to objectively be able to assess the whole situation if such a situation arose , but according to your statistics or statistics. maybe you have numbers or observations. these are the cases when they forcefully try to serve a summons and a person does not want to run away. are they systematic, are they constant, or are they still isolated

well, they are not as systemic as they are trying to present and create , if we really analyze them and we have been doing it for the last two weeks, eh , to analyze those videos that are posted on social networks, in particular, those that are picked up by telegram channels, we have already faced the fact that for example, the arrest by the police of a man with a weapon who was very actively arguing and very actively interfering with their actions was again recommended by third-party videographers of this situation from the window as the handing out of summons actually revealed this and in particular in odesa it actually turned out to be mykolaiv region where they were detained for a domestic quarrel and called the police, in particular, a woman when she quarreled with her son over something, for example, who was there with a knife, there are incidents when there are detentions

of a joint group, and the military were nearby and our guest is being detained by the police, the connection is broken, but i hope that mrs. natalya gumenyuk has already returned, continue like this. yes, there are incidents when the police detain a citizen who has committed some public order offense or another, but he starts provocative actions and defiantly shouts about the fact that they are trying to hand him a summons about mobilization by force, that is, the reaction is different and there are different situations , it is impossible to rule out information leaks, but you agree that he only played along in every such case

plays into the hands of russian propaganda, of course they pick up on this and that is why we have included a countermeasure system, in particular an internal one, in our environment we work with representatives of territorial recruitment centers because they are forced to resort to such atypical work for them, working in public places, they were not trained in this separately. now we we make up for it and try to teach them, we connect psychologists and lawyers to this so that they go out to communicate with people as well as possible, we can state that legislation on mobilization, in particular, in our country is not so perfect that it absolutely helped to form a mobilization resource , it is again based on the heightened awareness of citizens, so that in the ideals of a rule-of-law state, every citizen of that age will accordingly come with a certain

periodically to the picking center to update information about yourself and to appear on a summons to live at the place of registration to appear on a summons we understand with you what it is absolutely like the situation is that a lot of people do not live at the place of registration and do not stay there for a long time, a lot of people specifically avoid it, that is why there are such gaps in the legislation, but there is a plan for mobilization resources. that is, these are still mobilization measures, the consequences of which we also sometimes observe are not very positive this is directly related to the fact that there are many thousands of soldiers at the front for a year without rotation without leave. they need to be replaced urgently . there is such a need now, and there is an absolute need, because

we all sympathize and observe news from the front, we understand what is happening, for example, in the east, that the units there are really staying for a long time in such difficult conditions and they really need recovery, that is, removal from the zone of active hostilities, staying for a certain time in a more peaceful area, restoring forces and returning to the position for this and a mobilization resource is being formed, in addition, receiving a summons does not mean immediate dispatch to the front, this is again dispersal, hmm , what are the sources of the attack on such a narrative that he was immediately arrested on the street? finds himself in the trenches, this is absolutely untrue, because the first thing is to verify the person's data, and then go through the necessary medical commission if these data are imperfect and there is such a need, and in the course of this commission it may turn out that the person is not subject to mobilization

, further clarification of the circumstances that may become the basis to postpone the postponement, many have reservations, many have three children and are guardians, that is, they have legal grounds for not being in the mobilization resource, but in order to find out all this, it is necessary to appear in tcc and submit data about yourself, don't argue, but accept with understanding that uh , in principle, the procurement centers came to meet you, a lot of people, by the way, say oh, i didn't know that you have to appear and renew and who is to blame and who guilty that some man did not know that it was necessary to appear, but i often had to hear from communication specialists that in ukraine, for 8, almost 9 years of war and a year of a full-scale invasion, in principle, the communication campaign for mobilization was a complete failure,

first of all not knowing the law does not exempt from responsibilities, each person must be aware of his rights and obligations, and secondly, if we talk specifically about e-e communication company, for example , as regards mobilization, there are indeed gaps in the sense that at first, when there was a very high wave of enthusiasts ready to come with with weapons in hand and without even looking back at one's health to go and defend and we are talking about the beginning of a full-scale invasion about the initial months there in 2014 when the annexation of certain territories of ukraine took place a very large influx. we even reported that in odesa , in particular, in the odesa region, there were so many enthusiasts and wanting to enlist that we were forced to create a second

brigade of territorial defense and form a reserve already for the third brigade, but at that moment , let's honestly point out that no not everyone realized that a full-scale war could last so long, at that time everyone expected that in a few months we would break the spine of this enemy and everything would be ukraine, it would be birds, but the need for mobilization resources is still well, yes, i remember oleksiy arestovich every time he came out and said another 2-3 weeks, but the fact that you are now coming and explaining is also a contribution to communication, the last question, but from those cases that we have already seen on video , they are recorded as violent. they are trying to hand subpoenas that have already been carried out, perhaps some official investigations are there cases when such employees of the military committees were either suspended or dismissed for violating the law or there

are some internal e-e work algorithms e-e there are no such legal grounds to fire them now since we are all with you under martial law conditions, but i want to say that there is a practice of such a rotation when employees of the procurement centers come directly to combat units in order to experience this experience and in order to communicating with people, and they come there for the performance of official duties, not for an excursion, so that later , if they find themselves again, due to rotation in the ranks of employees in the recruitment center , they can talk objectively with which people they call to come and fulfill their duty

. by the way, in the groups that we are forming now, we listen to the people's requests . indeed, they are formed taking into account the fact that they include combatants, those people who really went through the crucible of war, who are known for therefore, here is the combat work that is carried out on the front lines and who can objectively speak with people, not to act by force, but to tell , to motivate and by their own example to attract people to come and fulfill their mobilization duty ms. natalya, well, i thank you very much what you joined our broadcast nataliya gumenyuk, the head of the joint press center of the south operational command , in the afternoon, she was on radio liberty, we talked about the mobilization processes in ukraine. is it legal

to hand out summonses at roadblocks, in cafes, in the subway, in shopping centers, or, for example, in ski resorts ? two days ago, a video appeared on the internet in which eyewitnesses at the foot of a ski slope in the village somehow claim slavske of the lviv region also handed out summonses. i thought it was a joke in the mountains, but it's not a joke. they actually issue summonses. someone was tortured . someone is lucky. someone is unlucky. andriy novak, a lawyer from the mila law firm, joined our broadcast. my congratulations to andriy . is it legal to hand out summonses in public places? it is not legal, first of all it is necessary to understand that handing out, more precisely, serving summonses - this is legal , there is no act or any provision that would prohibit the serving of a trip anywhere, however

, it is necessary to distinguish between serving a summons and issuing a summons is already on the spot, that is, to issue a summons on the spot based on the data that the representatives of the military commissariat received during the inspection of the documents of the person aa, this is against the law , in our opinion, in the opinion of lawyers, lawyers. to appear at the military commissariat anywhere, on the street or at a ski resort, it is possible, the law does not object, yes, the summons must be completely filled out with all mandatory details at the time of the violation. yes, it must not be empty, it must be in it yourself, but at the time of delivery, it must be when filling in the surname, middle name a-a, year of birth, place of residence a-a, date on when e-e you are invited to come to the picking center, as well as a signature, a live signature and

a wet seal of the picking center, respectively, you further, it should be so that the employees of the military commissions, together with the police, check the documents of the person e, establish his identity, and then e-e, from among the already filled out summonses that they could carry with them, choose the already filled out trip for this particular person and hand it of course, i am saying that this is in an ideal vacuum universe, and in reality, of course, this cannot be the case, that is why we believe that subpoenas to check documents and immediately fill out subpoenas with all the data are illegal, and as a rule, how does it happen ? of your practice, they approach men, ask for the name, surname, patronymic , fill it out right away and hand it over correctly . that 's how it

happens. military commissars come home with filled-in right-wing summonses and hand them to citizens already at home at their residential address, their residential address, and in this case there will be no possibility of not receiving the summons in a legal way, because it is legal and a few more moments to pass the summons through relatives, leave it at the door or throw it away to the mailbox, is it permissible or not permissible to send it via viber by phone or sms, as summonses to the court come via sms, such methods as you mentioned no, this is unacceptable and illegal and accordingly, failure to appear at the military committee by this method of notification is incorrect and such a summons can be ignored . what is the point here? a duly served summons

appears when there is full confirmation that the person received the summons , such confirmation can only be a live handwritten signature on a- and receipts about receiving a summons and what do you think about these incidents that we mentioned today in odessa , in particular, when there a person forcibly knocked you to the ground or pushed you on a bus in an unknown direction, let's imagine that this person well maybe even she, he is a swindler, maybe this is not the first time when the military commissariat is trying to catch him, well, in general , such actions are lawful, such actions, well, in the court of 6 pictures, what we see, we can definitely say that no, this is unacceptable. we live in a state of law and any ways and methods of notifying citizens of the need to come to the military commissariat must also be legal and legal, e-e

, the law clearly states that it is necessary to notify citizens of the need to come to the military commissariat and citizens e-e citizens must arrive independently within the specified period, nowhere is it indicated that the representatives of the police, the representatives of the assembly centers have the right or must accompany him to the assembly center and in a peaceful way or in such a way as we see, respectively, if someone tries to detain you by force , put you on a bus in a car and deliver it to the military commissariat. of course , there is no point in evaluating the opposition, because they are more banal than they will break you, er, they will cause physical pain, at least they can operate

clothes. someone else. but the result will be the same. you will find yourself in the military commissariat, but it is necessary as soon as there is an opportunity to answer the police. call the hotline about the fact that you were not legally deprived of your freedom and taken away by unknown people in an unknown direction . and it turned out that they were brought to the military commissariat, and such a case must be registered by calling the police, and as a result, at your call , a police patrol, an investigative-operational group must come to record this offense, and take it from you a statement of explanation and then we will already figure out whether or not to bring such persons to criminal liability for at least exceeding official duties and powers . well, in fact, it

is a very difficult topic. we just spoke with a representative of the operational command of the south. on the other hand, these military commissars, the people who work there, they are not trained in how it should happen until the end , they are not trained. personally, where do these delivery methods come from? are there such deviations on the ground or just a real lack of knowledge and understanding. how should it be and no one teaches it anywhere in ukraine. it seems to me that it is not even necessary to study here because it is usually banal logic and common sense is not needed by force, especially with such methods , it is possible to force citizens to do anything, after all, we do not live in the russian federation, after all, we live in ukraine, a democratic, free and independent state, and it seems to me that this is simply not the competence of a person in places you have

perception is such a systemic problem. perhaps you have come across your appeals somehow from people. can you generalize it systematically? are these rather very isolated cases from what i can see and what is on social networks and in the news and then appeals? these are still isolated cases that for some reason, it most often happens either in odesa or in western ukraine, in the western regions, for example, there in the zakarpattia region, also, especially at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, there were frequent cases when ordinary passers-by simply they were caught on the street, put in a car and sent to the assembly center. however, i would not say that this is a mass phenomenon, and these are after all isolated cases, because if it were a mass phenomenon , there would be much, much more such mentions in the networks in appeals to lawyers. i don't know, even isolated cases, we