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the issue of prigozhin's action films, they are unlikely to surround bakhmut until february 24, even putin's chef himself admits that russia can cook instead massive missile attack, then what should ukraine prepare for on the anniversary of the full-scale invasion of russia a year ago zelensky in germany for the last time put on an official suit on a foreign visit and called on the west to prevent the invasion of russia today at the munich security conference is he seriously talking about the defeat of the russian federation in the war, is it possible on the internet activists of the peoples of russia hold a vote for the independence of five regions of the russian federation, and some ukrainian deputies hint that they may recognize the independence of, for example, the same kuban or the urals is the disintegration of russia possible, let's discuss the person, come on

, russia is unlikely to be able to capture bakhmut by february 24, this is what the analysts of the american institute for the study of war believe. earlier, the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy danilov, said that the russian troops intend to capture bakhmut by february 24. the battle for the city has actually been going on for 6 months, but in the last week, the russian forces went to an active offensive on bakhmut, and in addition to units of the regular army of the russian federation, fighters of the private military company wagner are also trying to seize the ukrainian city , its leader yevgeny prigozhin recently complained about the lack of shells, but this time much more politely than his charges allowed themselves before, among other things, prigozhin also voiced his forecast when in his opinion, the russian forces will be able to surround bakhmut when it will be possible to surround bakhmut with your lands

. хочу загадывать очень сложно всё jealous of how they will be active, they are now getting new video weapons and if the russian troops do not succeed on the ground by the anniversary of the invasion of ukraine, they may again resort to massive missile attacks , military analysts and the ukrainian authorities, in particular, think so the version of how this can happen the day before was presented by the adviser of the president's office, mykhailo podalyak, we will listen to it on 24. they will still try to accumulate the volume that is always used for the cascade three khvylovoi were massed. well, on the 24th, try to show that they still have gunpowder in their powder magazines. in the meantime, the ukrainian military is using western weapons to hold positions. one of the ukrainian units highly appreciates the properties of the bushmaster armored car provided by australia. let’s see. we arrived a little late. that they are going to intimidate

the opposition, but now he has proven himself very well. there are very strong notes here, but not very well . anti-tank mines were blown up and people just got contusions there , uh, nothing like that component was wounded , that is, i warmed up very well. he himself drives up to the evacuation vehicle of the wounded er and there are some advancements of other groups, he is also a gunner from the castle, we are pouring fire

damage there, don't be sorry, let's give us more equipment, more weapons and we will already deal with the russian occupier, we will to destroy together to victory ukraine is united glory to ukraine what to expect in ukraine on the anniversary of the full-scale invasion of russia and how the events surrounding bahmut can unfold further, talk about it further with us in communication roman kostenko people's deputy of ukraine secretary of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence dobry evening good evening well, we have already told our viewers about it. mykhailo podolyak believes that on february 24, we should expect a new massive missile attack from russia , in particular. he says that it will happen again in three waves, in your opinion, this is a probable scenario, given that this is russia , it is a normal probable, and given their love for

sacred dates, well, you can expect anything from them, therefore, missile fire from us is not something so new and they use it if they use it. yes they can use it directly on february 24, but from my point of view, well, it’s so low. when you came to fight for three days, you couldn’t fulfill any of the goals you set for yourself , and then on the anniversary you try to hit the civilian population. well, that’s if yes well it's russia once again, it won't surprise us, well, that is, in your opinion, will it be such a recognition of one's own defeat or not? of course, well, listen , you know, we can celebrate the fact that we, having a smaller army, having fewer resources and having fewer opportunities, year e- we are fighting with one of the most resourceful armies in the world, and this is our merit and this is our achievement, and for the russians , this is a victory, a defeat, a defeat that they received

in this case, when they came here, and i say once again, and take some actions of such a plan to launch missile strikes there aviation bombs there strikes well, this is once again admitting one's inability to do something real on the field, god well, that is, it turns out to be really as excellent as the real military successes of real advancement on the ground. is there a military sense in this after all? we know that such strikes were actually on, for example, infrastructure objects, well, a military center. there is no such thing here . we know that russia has already launched missile strikes many times, and this was not reflected in the situation on the battlefield , yes, it is reflected in our civilian the population there is the question. that there is no light there or that civilians will die there is pure terrorism, but they do not achieve anything directly on the battlefield because there will be different schedules on the field and soldiers are really

fighting soldiers there and they have a special achievement there there is no such thing as what they captured there at the very beginning of the war . i think by may, the place is beyond the minimum, they have uh achievements, but at the same time maximum losses. is it possible to escalate to 24 in february, a possible offensive or capitulation, so what can it be, if we are talking about missile attacks, well, actually, we have already discussed it. and can the russian forces repeat, so to speak, how russian propaganda likes to say and go to some i don’t know . well, you are large-scale offensive to the anniversary of the second is it realistically terroristic because they may want to do so but it is exactly so that it would be like february 24th they already had because the army we already have much more forces

we have much more we already know their directions possible strikes, we are watching what this attempt might be, and whether it will be successful or unsuccessful will depend on the situation on the battlefield, on our actions, on their actions, but we tried to carry out such an attempt , what will happen, well, that will decide, only we were able to predict here, it is not possible for russia yet time remains a resource country, a resource if in terms of technology , resources, personnel, the advantage is in their favor, we have to understand, but we are in defense, and this gives us an advantage, let's say, it gives us the opportunity to have fewer resources, at the same time effectively to use to defend ourselves, we have enough resources, of course, when we talk about choosing our territories, this resource must be increased, ah, actually , if we say , what do you expect? the russian forces have the strength to leave this large-scale offensive, why am i asking because there are certain signs by which it can be concluded

that this offensive has allegedly already begun, in particular, according to the number of losses, and the russian side is talking about it, in particular, the bbc publication about it say many analysts, in particular, and the ukrainian military say that these losses are increasing according to your assessment or at all well, if there is such an attempt and do the russians have the strength for this, there are strength and once again when it will depend on how we react russia has now accumulated a lot of resources on our territory, i want to say that even the approximate numbers are about 2,000 tanks there are thousands 1,800 there are more than 4,000 combat vehicles there are only armored ones there are more than a thousand units of artillery it is more somewhere around 800 e-e different systems in rocket systems of salvo fire and this big, we have less actually, even though we already have a lot of weapons, our partners have supplied us, so russia has a resource, we have it almost every day there , they destroy some amount, they now use it even in the donetsk

e-e direction, they don’t use it much because we use high-precision weapons there including by destroying it, this indicates that they are keeping it for what purpose. i think for the spring company it cannot be something there, from my point of view, you just know, there is nothing, nothing here, a breakthrough has gone to us, it is difficult here but with such blows, both at bahmut and at soledar and at ugledara , they will try to break through our defense where they have success, there they will develop it again, i say a lot depends on us. whether we will allow it to be done or not, we will get a clear understanding , that is, your opinion is that there are enough resources, they are actually being accumulated so that the offensive that is going on now may intensify. how do you assess the situation around bakhmut? we actually told him about it in the previous story, in particular. also that the head of wagner announced that they will be able to surround the city in march-april, although he also notes that it is not worth guessing, because the armed forces of ukraine

are provided with and can already receive new powerful tanks at that time. this is how you assess the situation with bakhmut, which many it is very difficult to predict the directions, because i can leave everything to one unit that, for example, was successful and did not allow the enemy to break through, or another unit that did not receive a defense there withdrew and this offensive, let's say, and the russians closed the ring but if we take the average that everyone is standing in their positions, no one has given any slack and there is enough ammunition, then indeed our defenders still have the opportunity to fight, if we see that there are likely to be some problems with communication with our guest, we will try to restore it, i will remind you that we are not in touch roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine a-a secretary of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence , we discuss the situation at the front with them and also a- a um-m forecast, try to understand and assess

what to expect on february 24, mr. kostenko is already in touch with us again. and here i will ask you to comment on prigozhin's statement. i will explain here why we actually attach importance to this because it is obvious that his influence in russia is increasing and he is in charge of the wagner pvk unit. in particular, he stated that, as i quote, he visited all the offices known to him in moscow and will continue to ensure that the fighters of the spider wagner receive the necessary ammunition, that is, he allegedly says that there is not enough ammunition. is chief of the general staff well, what is he preventing wagner from advancing on the bahmut puts sticks in the wheels and says prigozhin himself ?

of the other side and now, since the official, let's say, the power is always in his face, if he and once he was given power , in principle, i told putin that it is necessary to fight with regular troops, and in this way he is now trying to say that because they will say to raise their status yes, but of course he is now nemirov, and i think that they are trying to show in this way the inability of the army to provide for its pvk . including through his army for those events that occur when the wagner command will cease to be capable, of course, and this will be implemented , they will forget it, they understand it in this way, he tries of course to show the incompetent snow in the media and somehow give himself some preference

mr. kostenko, i would like to ask you to stay in touch with us, because our viewers will also be informed that you are currently in munich at the munich security conference. and actually , we will return to the discussion a little later, and now i want to involve our correspondent, zoryana stepanenko, who is currently in in munich, i will just add a little context to what is actually happening today in the capital of bavaria , dozens of heads of state and defense and diplomatic videos visited german munich today the munich security conference began on 20-23 , by the way, it is worth mentioning that last year's munich conference was the last foreign visit of president zelensky before the start of a full-scale invasion of russia. in the event of an invasion , they spoke cautiously, but zelensky himself , on the contrary, called on the world to act decisively, to stop

appeasing russia and to come to real actions about what did zelensky say this year when speaking online? what to expect from the munich conference? my friend zoryana stepanenko, who is working on the sidelines of the munich summit now, will tell you. zoryana. greetings to you . my greetings. sashko. well, it's really been almost a year since the european continent no longer feels safe, and munich - it is precisely about the security of the conference, as you have already said, and here in the capital of bavaria, the political beaumond now almost from all over the world is now thinking how this very feeling of security is to return its prescription to video link to the leaders of the most influential countries in the world, the leadership is the constitution of the secretary general of nato to the diplomats and congressmen who have gathered here. by the way, they are all in the hotel you see behind me, where all the important events take place, and that's how volodymyr zelenskyi offered them his recipe and said that there is only one way out. with russian aggression and achieve the victory of ukraine because the quote when russian weapons shoot at us, they are already aimed at our neighbors, zelensky said, the threat only

grows as long as the discussions continue, assuming in particular, that russia is spreading its nuclear technologies by paying in this way, played for the weapons received, therefore, he called on the partners not to delay the deliveries of the already promised arsenal, but on the contrary to hurry up in order to accordingly prevent even greater destruction in ukraine, we need to hurry, we need the speed of agreements, the speed of arms deliveries, the speed of decisions in order to limit the russian there is no potential alternative to speed, because life depends on it, any delay - this is a mistake while we are negotiating how to strengthen our defense with modern tanks in the kremlin are thinking about ways to spread their evil even more, in particular to moldova. zelensky is sure that the victory of ukraine means the liberation of all territories. during

this year, it may be real and sooner. we remember this, for example, a few days ago , the american general mark miley said that it would be extremely difficult and that in 2023 it would be possible only in the event of the collapse of the army of the russian federation, supporting ukraine, the world does not have the right to be tired stressed the hake on the german chancellor and not so long ago he did not let his leopards into ukraine foul in scholz, now on the contrary he called on partners who are armed with western-style tanks to provide them to ukraine he called here in munich it is not our arms supplies that are prolonging the war, everything is completely the opposite the sooner president putin realizes that he will not achieve his imperialist goal, the better chance we have of ending the war, we will continue to maintain a balance between providing

the best possible support to ukraine and avoiding an unwanted escalation by the russian delegation in munich. well, if last year was the first time in the history of the conference, by the way, they themselves refused to come, then this year already they and the official representatives of iran simply did not want to see them here, and that is, no one invited sashko, the reasons can not be explained , but there are the representatives of the russian opposition in munich and, by the way , talking about the changes in the russian government prematurely announced here and the french president said that there is a question, they say, who is next, who is the leader, and also said that to things are noticeable, such a change in rhetoric, in particular, in the mouth of the french president, he said that the un security council should be reformed - he said that it is necessary to be frank, once one permanent member went down the path of violating the rules that he should have defended, on the contrary, it is necessary to change it, and it is clear which country he meant, that is, we see what about the dialogue with moscow is not on the contrary, and western leaders here and in principle constantly say that

they do not see any signals that russia is ready for a constructive dialogue in these waves in the fields a number of bilateral meetings are held at the conference, everyone wants to see everyone and check the clocks, so to speak, and the ukrainian delegation is also trying to use this opportunity and is strongly promoting its agenda, in particular regarding fighter jets , which we have just literally listened to the ukrainian minister of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba, he spoke with ukrainian journalists, he said that he is among the bilateral parties, as he had, he mentioned in particular his meeting with toltenberg today with the secretary general of nato, and the ukrainian minister said that he is reasons to believe that nato will double or even triple its efforts in the production of both defensive and offensive weapons , and ukraine and its allies need them. that it will be resolved, it will just take a little more time , he said that we will hear many more statements from the partners of ukraine that this issue is not about time, but actually

how it will be resolved when they are in doubt, he came to munich for two things, speed and stability, and said that work is ongoing to ensure that as many countries as possible support the ukrainian formula for peace, especially the global south , sashko. thank you very much. zoryana stepanenko joined our meeting from munich, where the munich security conference is ongoing. meanwhile, we return to the conversation with mr. kostenka roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine , who is also currently in munich, mr. kostenko, i got the impression that despite the fact that the change in the mood of ukraine's partners is dramatic if compared with the past last year, germany, despite the fact that they recently made such a historic decision to provide ukraine with heavy tanks, continues to be one of the most cautious, here is this quote by olaf scholze about the fact that it will try to have a balance between helping ukraine and still not

provoking escalation, how do you assess it hmm, there are still difficulties in explaining to e partners that ukraine needs to be helped. well, there is so much that ukraine is asking for this. first of all, they said that they will be with ukraine until the end, and secondly, how to help until the end, secondly he said that the most important thing for us is not to drag nato into a war with the russian federation, of course it sounds twofold and the president rightly said that we need to stop being afraid, we need to help now and do everything so that we win therefore, the question here is, of course, that now europe must unite, and here various statements were made, in particular, from the president of france, from our president, and this is scholza , the main message is that russia must be put an end to, russia must lose, but

at the same time, nato should not draw in free and buy a complex puzzle that will need to be solved by our diplomats, diplomats of the world. thank you very much . roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine and secretary of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, was in touch with us. voting on the internet has started on independence of 5 regions of russia, this online vote is conducted by activists of regional and national movements who also participate in an organization called the forum of free peoples of the post of russia, they are supporters and where are of the non-violent and controlled disintegration of the russian federation, but they themselves are outside russia, what do they propose? at midnight on february 16, novosibirsk time, the so-called online referendums on the independence of five regions of russia, the urals, siberia, the kuban, and ingria, centered in st. petersburg, and

konigsberg , began. the name of the city of kaliningrad, the vote on the status of these five territories was organized by organized on a single website where, in particular , the appeal of the organizing committee of the referendum, which presented arguments for independence of these regions well, for example, the authors of the text claim that the regions of the urals provide 70% of their income in moscow . in the same text, the residents of kaliningrad are called to look at the standard of living in the neighboring polish city of gdansk and see in it, so to speak, their own european future, and the residents of siberia are called to take the resources of their native land . to their own hands, on the pages of voting for specific regions , the history of their movements for independence is presented, for example, on the page about the urals, it is said that in the spring of 1993 referendum on the status of the ural republic and that 60% of the population took part in it, and the majority of people supported the project of creating a republic. voting will be available until february 28. the results are promised

to be published in early march. well , as of now, in this online referendum, the so-called voted already 353,000 people, moreover, the site where voting is ongoing in russia is blocked by roskomnadzor, but the site has instructions on how to bypass this ban, here it is worth reminding that there is a form of electronic voting in russia, but here is such a vote about the independence of individual regions is most likely still illegal in the kremlin, they did not comment on it, but calls for the violation of territorial integrity in russia are equated to extreme activity with all the legal consequences, but what is interesting - this online government was also supported by some ukrainian politicians, for example, the deputy of the verkhovna rada oleg hunda said that based on the results of these so-called referendums , the verkhovna rada can make a decision to recognize the independence of russian regions, i

will remind you that in october last year, the verkhovna rada recognized the self-proclaimed chechen republic of ichkeria as temporarily occupied by russia on the basis of the 1990 referendum, and the secretary of the national security and defense council oleksiy danilov said on the air of a telethon the other day that in the coming years new states will appear on the world map tination, which to date is organized on the territory of russia, it will definitely be free and all this will begin from the caucasus, the liberation of ichkeria will begin, and from free dagestan, tatarstan, other other countries that will appear on the world map in the next 3-5-7 years. well, now let's go back to yes the so-called online referendums on the independence of the urals, siberia, the kuban, ingra, and kaliningrad, what kind of idea is this in general, what is its purpose, because it is unlikely that this story will have serious legal consequences. well, should ukraine support such an initiative ? we are joined by a political scientist, the director of the institute of world politics, yevhen machta . good evening. greetings. good evening. let's figure out what we have and what we need

to understand. russian activists and politicians in exile have created a website where they voting for the independence of the kuban and four more regions, and even if the majority of users vote for independence, these regions will not actually separate from russia, this will not happen from a legal point of view - this action is not legitimate. then what is the purpose of such votes? what do you think and why is this support ukrainian politicians, there are several nuances. in july 2022, i participated in the forum of the free peoples of russia in prague, and i can say that these politicians are really real persons, that is, vadym shtepa and how he himself pavlo ingren and akhmed zakaev call these people who really exist. zakhmetov is a law. by the way

, there is an interview on radio svoboda channel . i would like to take this opportunity to announce to our viewers. they currently live outside of ukraine outside of russia, there is nothing surprising in this because the man well, we remember the story of this shaman gabyshev, who tried to say something against putin and how quickly he sent to a psychiatric hospital, that is, accordingly, there is a situation in which there are symbols, politics consists of symbols, and this is no secret in this case, in this case, almost 9 dozen regions of russia that exist today. they have a different history of their association and a completely

different history of their coexistence , right here you are the staff from the forum in prague and i , for example, offered to talk about russia the day after tomorrow, we have ukraine should talk about russia the day after tomorrow if you do not talk about it, if we are not looking opportunities and we do not project them, what will russia be like the day after tomorrow, we will lose, that is, such electronic referendums are allowed by russian legislation, so we must use such opportunities, this is, after all , a base of people who are ready to vote in this way, and then we can search for them accordingly, and if we do not focus on