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around russia around putin we hear a lot of such frightening news from moldova that a coup d'état is being prepared there lukashenka began to declare ambiguous statements western countries offer and call on their citizens to leave belarus as soon as possible for something and the main question is whether these metastases will not spread through russia, the russian plague will invade other countries because somewhere this can happen with the will of russia, somewhere on the contrary against its will but nevertheless , when someone starts throwing stones, he should make sure that the walls are not made of thin glass this is what we will talk about in the studio of the night watch for you, maria vasylivna, and i, and in ganplinsky, we are visiting yuriy panchenko , editor of the european edition. thank you for visiting
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. congratulations. thank you, friends. the other day, lukashenka, who did not go unnoticed by the whole world, at a meeting in some incomprehensible format with the leaders of the dkb country, he said that this time friends will have to decide and there is no time for that. well , within a few days you have to form your position, i still did not understand this message i didn’t understand this meeting, but we all heard this thesis, although we all understand that when lukashenko speaks, putin is actually speaking with his mouth, and it can mean anything, but you still understand. where did the idea to talk about it come from, yuriy? what do you think it was? well, i guess you really don’t need a lot of attention to the card because lukashenko says he can say anything, you have to watch what he does , but in this case, it seems to me that there is more the desire of lukashenka himself, so it happened that he is the only bright, well, completely 100% putin’s ally. even iran, which helps
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russia with missiles , well, drones, but tries to minimize it, and they actually do not confirm their help. they try to disguise it, and lukashenko is the only one who does it openly and of course he understands that belarus will be hit by the next sanctions package because belarus is an ally of this and of course he would like to not be the only ally then even for him it would be easier that if the sanctions are against several countries then there is less chance that they will be carried out will they be weaker and he would like that, and of course the fact that russia is actually an ally is a country that did not support the russian war and russian aggression . himself, and of course he would like other countries to support him, so
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take a breath, er, declaratively or formally, but if they helped something, in such a case, it would be more difficult to impose sanctions on all these countries, and this is a plus for lukashenka and his regime, remind me, this is an anecdote about what's good about group sex, the fact that you can always have sex, this is exactly the opinion that appears to the belarusian usurper too. i don't think lukashenko wants to have sex, but he definitely won't succeed and he's just trying to get him to do it. to say that i am not the only one to blame well, when a crime is committed, criminals try to have more power on the participants, it simplifies their position, it can simply be transferred to someone , part of the responsibility and part of the guilt. the water, so to speak, mr.
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pashinyan, the president of armenia, what a few such dimarches have been done recently, what can we say that even the odkb is almost collapsing in this statement the ministry of defense of armenia considers inexpedient to hold on on its territory, military exercises on the odkb, which belarus is also interested in, because it is precisely on the territory of the a-a disputed territory between armenia and azerbaijan that are taking place now on nagorno-karabakh , in fact , udkb militants are taking place. a certain dissonance well, a little clarification peacekeepers there are peacekeepers six school to kobeshni e.g. they are only in karabakh, but the conflict is now taking place on the internationally recognized border between armenia yes, he is azerbaijani. yes, he is not fully registered
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, er, he is not demarcated, but this is a territory that does not concern karabakh as such, the situation in which armenia has fallen is quite complicated and is connected with the fact that they probably made the wrong choice a long time ago and now they are this is because the children are paying for the sins of their parents, that is, at one time they made a full commitment to secure cooperation with russia, and now that russia's position has weakened due to aggression and war. it is necessary to put pressure on armenia to force them to sign a peace agreement, but on their terms, and of course there is a certain pressure and there is a hint that if armenia does not agree to all the demands of azerbaijan, this pressure will continue and uh, armenia who understands that well, now somehow this ally is what
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there were many hopes that he will not help and cannot help. yes, he often goes to demash. armenia hoped or did they hope that after all, this conflict is on the border. allies and to help but of course they did not receive this help, of course there would have been this demarch because, well, imagine the situation when any nato country in which an attack begins on the border turns to nato under the fifth article. let's not imagine such a thing is simply impossible. well, armenia got into such a situation, stood by koba , does it show that this organization is not about security or anything, but more about some illusion of preserving the post-soviet space under the control of russia, but i probably wanted
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used in order to involve the troops of these states in conflicts on the other side, it was i don’t think as a rule, after all, they do not rely on allies and could not particularly rely on it, it is more of an illusion that there is nato, they think that america has nato and they are for regions , they were preserved . this otkb is not the same as it was during the soviet union, but at least something . they joined the csb, they made some political gestures, and in exchange they received discounts on russian weapons, a discount program, yes, that is, in fact , well, such a direct involvement of the troops of the csb member countries in this war. putin does not even count on this. i am sure that it is simply not
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even actually possible. armenia she has her own conflict, she will not send er, i diluted that even if they were broken there, they would be broken through the knee, it would cause such protests inside the country that there is a blocked airport er and all such er kazakhstan with its in addition, the problems are two countries in central asia, which have conflicts with each other and one more, that is, in fact, lukashenko , that is, in fact, putin can only count on the help of lukashenka, who also diligently avoids this, let's go. we returned from lukashenka let's talk about what else lukashenko can offer now and how he can be useful to putin in today's realities, but we really see lukashenko for a whole year, or maybe it seems to us that he avoids direct participation in the war simply not
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they see for themselves there 100% guarantees of russia's victory, so he avoids what he can do now and how he can put pressure on him later, well , first of all, of course, putin has the main thing, he can use the territory of belarus as a training ground for attack on the territory of ukraine and it does not in any way depend on lukashenko's loan, that is, lukashenko will obviously put percentages , there will be no attack on the territory of belarus, now it does not depend on lukashenko in any way , the russian troops are already there, if they receive an order, they will go on the offensive and some no one will get an agreement with lukashenka, on the other hand, it is good that while there those forces are not enough for a full -scale offensive. therefore, for now, at least the ukrainian general staff does not see this threat as a good thing. but if russia has this idea with lukashenko , they will not discuss the issue of the belarusian military
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. it is there, but at the moment lukashenko is trying to redeem himself there, the belarusian military conducts training for russian military personnel. artillery ammunition, and thus lukashenko is trying to redeem himself from direct participation because he understands what it can have for him f- in fact, it is full of tragic cards and it is the end for him personally. the king is naked, yes, as has actually already happened with vladimir putin , to a certain extent, yes, in belarus , the belarusian army has been conducting training this whole year, and obviously it has increased its combat capabilities, but
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it is preparing for defense, that is, lukashenko he is preparing for a situation when he will not be able to rely on putin's help. he will have to rely on something himself to ensure the guarantees of his power, but this is what the belarusian army is working on now, they are conducting defensive training. if there is an offensive war, then there is a problem of who can be relied on. who will go - yes, there are certain parts that are considered to be from lukashenko , who will carry out this order. but there are many of them, and most importantly, lukashenko needs them alive because they are the support of his regime, that is , he clearly does not want to throw them to the slaughter. the option that is currently being discussed now in belarus began to say that a special military commission will be created. is it often a private military company of the wagner type, and there is a version that it is possible that this is a certain compromise that those military personnel
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who are ready to go there to fight for russia will be allowed to go there and send them e- eh, in the russian parts, 12 months before this, lukashenka still tried to the last not to break all relations , to keep to himself. although there is some uh way to the speech, but i was so worried about another phrase of lukashenka, which he stated that the belarusian and belarusian army will take part in this war, but only if there is an attack on belarus or there is a threat to belarus , and that's when the belarusian army will show itself, and here we are reminded of the events of last year , when putin started this war, and he, in fact , also wrapped it in history about protection and rescue, that is, they say there is no aggression, and here and here this is a coincidence, to which
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is added his statement on the udkb that it will be necessary to determine plus. isolation at the borders on the part of poland, i also want to talk about this separately, and if you put all this together as they say, you can see that, in simple words, something like this is brewing. well, i would mention another phrase before this invasion . lukashenko assured that there would be no attack from the territory of belarus and then, as you know, he lied, the question is that there is no point in analyzing his words in particular. of course, he lies all the time , well, this is his job. the question is, will there still be some participation and how are these events, the first thing is that the conf- closing the border is a little different story and e- is
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the embassy's recommendations for its citizens to leave belarus is related to this, because if poland and lithuania close the border with belarus , then it will be difficult for foreigners who stay there to leave, so they are advised to do it now without waiting for the border to be closed so as not to go through the territory of russia, which in itself is another challenge, but we remember what happened a year ago, when the embassy was also evacuated from ukraine, and the usa and other countries also recommended - not just recommended, but strongly urged their citizens to leave ukraine, because they had to that moment intelligence data that spoke about the fact that the russian invasion is about to begin and uh, actually supplementing your opinion, i want to say that this statement really evokes similar feelings and now because if there is really any intelligence data on which the governments of these countries rely who make these calls, then obviously
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well, they are guided by something. well, if there is a call, well, the evacuation of embassies, what is left? this will probably be a signal that something interesting is happening. it seems to me that it is not so much a signal, let's talk. about the reasons for closing the borders on the part of poland, it closed the largest checkpoint on the border with belarus, and this caused a certain resonance, and secondly, it caused certain problems for those who want to leave belarus. as you already mentioned, why did this happen ? - in the last year at least two belaruss have somehow tried to attack poland, that is, in belarusian propaganda , poland is the one nato sang that wants to destroy belarus, conquer western belarus, as they
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convince, and so on, that is, he is the real one the enemy who wants to destroy them, and of course this image of poland is actively promoted by belarusian propaganda, and in addition , for example, there are many other anti-polish steps , polish military burials are being destroyed, that is, in what form the pochnik there are simply bulldozed . necessarily treat such things, they do it absolutely deliberately and uh, the last moments in the formal reason was uh, what was the arrest and court sentence of uh, an activist of the polish community in belarus, uh, a journalist why here, but let's say it like this, it was the last straw, many reasons had already accumulated, and at some point warsaw decided to act, that is, it could have acted a little earlier , it could have made this decision a little later, but it seemed to me that it was inevitable with the anti-polish policy that -he is already leading to lukashenka well, sooner or later it would have happened to him, they have covered one checkpoint so far, yes - the largest one has
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two more automobile checkpoints left, one for passenger cars and a jetta for trucks, says that they can also be closed at the same time, e.e. lithuania starts somehow, when they close their crossing points, supposedly for reconstruction, and yes , it is really an economic blockade, belarus and warsaw are ahead of eu politics in this matter , a small lyrical digression. to this step of poland announced that poland will soon find out what belarusian missiles are and that's how we found out that there are not only belarusian shrimps but also belarusian missiles with which a local propagandist is now threatening poland with this
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of course. well, there is a certain amount of irony in this, but in my words, but on the other hand, on the other hand, are there any such aggressive intentions of lukashenka, can or can they harm poland in a way, for example, by organizing and repeating the same migrant crisis that we seen not so long ago at the borders, when they took these unfortunate people who rushed to the barriers, who tried to provoke some forceful actions by the polish border guards, and so on, in order to simply destabilize the situation, of course, in order to again- still to help putin with something er let's say so er the migrant crisis probably won't be possible to repeat, at least it won't be possible in the form that i had in the 21st year, it 's a one-time tool then the border was open , that is, it wasn't for money and it was possible en masse lead these migrants to make such tours for them and went to europe , i.e. no one for whom it was no secret that they were set up by the central squirrel the authorities organized their
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accommodation in minsk and then organized the border crossing so that they would surrender there and according to european rules they were gone immediately to deport them, they had to consider the question of how many of them are legally entitled to asylum in the eu. and if there are tens or hundreds of thousands of them, then the border was completely ... the eu had such a policy of repulsion when they forced the people of solom to return to belarus, and this gave belarusian propagandists a reason to accuse the poles of inhumane treatment, almost murdering these people. but nevertheless, the situation was managed to restrain, then the construction of a huge fence began, it has already been built to a large extent, and now it is much more difficult to repeat this crisis, by the way, about this crisis , an interesting moment, uh, already now, knowing
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how everything ended, you already begin to think whether it is really possible that the role of russia is because this crisis if this migra would have been dug into europe, then later, at first, wars were a place for ukrainians, there simply would be no friends . let's join natalia radina, the editor-in-chief of charter 97, in our discussion and discuss with her on this topic. we welcome you. mrs. natali on the air thank you for joining us good day mr. lukashenko is full of new statements every day and the thesis about which we started to discuss is that he said that i am ready to fight together with the russians from the territory of belarus only if at least one soldier comes from there on the territory of belarus or if they commit aggression against belarus on and er
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. what do you think? how do you evaluate this statement? statements it is not really necessary, but on the other hand, we remember putin's last year's statements , which coincide with what lukashenko has now announced before putin launched an invasion of ukraine. how do you evaluate it? well, i suggest that you evaluate not lukashenko's words because he traditionally lies. he always lied about everything, in fact, for almost 30 years of his administration, as he lied on the eve of february 24, 2022, that there will be no attack on ukraine from the territory of belarus, there will never be an attack on the territory of belarus, any troops will attack kiev - you can never repeat that from the territory of belarus russians will never come to us in the territory of belarus. look at facts of belarus. in fact, these training grounds are a bridgehead for the russian army on the territory of belarus . probably hundreds of thousands of russian military personnel have already trained on the territory of belarus
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. currently, there are tens of thousands of russian military personnel who undergo training at all training grounds. uh, belarus , there was a shelling of ukrainian territory with rockets on the territory of belarus. belorussian sso is preparing to enter the war against ukraine, that is, it will be involved eh units of the eh brezkaya assault assault brigades of vytebskoy 103 and fifth marina gospodskoy with the territory of belarus, natalya, and do you think that the appeals of germany , france, and several other countries, which call on their citizens to immediately leave the territory of belarus, are
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related to this? obviously, with the large-scale entry of russia into ukraine, the territory of belarus and parts of the belarusian army will be affected in the same way. yesterday there were news that lukashenko did receive iskander operational-tactical complexes from putin. do you know where they are and in what quantity lukashenko received them? and er well, maybe you have insiders from the belarusian military on whether lukashenko is really ready to use them with his own hands against ukraine, and with the hands of the russian military, yes, yes, there is information that is on the territory of belarus a fairly large number of iskander missile complexes with 3 sts 400 are placed. the exact number is definitely impossible to name, but it is clear that we are not talking about one or two or three missile systems. they are located mainly in vrezka and gomes regions, in particular, the iskander s3 s400 is located at the airfield. zyabrovka in the gomel region near the ukrainian border
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now informs us that they are also stationed in the chernobyl exclusion zone in order to start shelling the ukrainian territory from there, natalya, and the ukrainian side has already once warned that if there are launches from the side of the belarusians from the territory of belarus, then ukraine can strike back. do you think the majority of the belarusian citizens themselves will react to such actions, will they consider ukraine to be guilty or do they really will be ready to take part in hostilities, believing that it was ukraine that attacked them, or how will the belarusians react to lukashenka's statement with which we started, and then it was prepared just for this, in order to receive a military response from ukraine as a response to a direct attack from belarus , belarus stands against this war, they understand very well that the war that will come
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against ukraine, the putin and lukashenko regimes , is present, and of course we realize that ukraine has absolutely the right to retaliatory strikes on military targets in belarus, this is exactly the right it has been for almost a year . yes, because ukrainian cities are being shelled from the territory of belarus. that is why, if this happens, i think that the majority of the population of belarus will understand this step. and what is happening in the information field of belarus as the state mass media, and in general, the information space, which is completely controlled by lukashenka, has recently been covering the war, have there been any new theses by which we can determine what the dictator is leaning towards ? the conference lukashenko is holding for the foreign media, here i was just the day before the broadcast, i read about what he said
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on the basis of insulting statements and to ukraine, to the ukrainian people and to president zelensky, again statements about the fact that an attack was allegedly being prepared from the territory of ukraine on the territory of belarus, so here it is completely obvious that in this war russia against ukraine , lukashenko is absolute, completely behind all his propaganda machines on the side of putin natal and one more question i have for you about the unexpected quite of the visit of the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, mr. siyarko . the hungarian minister of foreign affairs appears there, despite the fact that we know very well the position of the orbán government , that it very often goes against european
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policy, but siyarto declared that he came to minsk to talk about peace in ukraine. it is quite strange, first of all, lukashenko is definitely not the one with whom you can talk about peace there, but on the other hand, such a signal was sent for something, because hungary also understands that such a step will not be received very well in the european union, and for some reason they went for it. what do you think it's for? arrived, and what exactly could they talk about there? well, i think that you ask, what are the remaining illusions that it is possible to agree on something with lukashenka, we fought this policy of the west for decades, and we see that there is still one more attempt to negotiate with the dictator , although i it seemed that already after the year 2020 , when in belarus there were brutally dispersed peaceful demonstrations against the falsification of the elections, and even more so after february 24,

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