[000:00:00;00] involved in the murder of the journalist veremia, only in the wartime 2022, two ex-law enforcement officers received a real sentence for the first time, this is a former berkut woman who took part in the violent crackdown on the student maidan on the night of november 30. currently, the courts are considering cases against another two and a half hundred people , often the process is artificially delayed as the lawyer of the accused and the judges say in the prosecutor general's office that a lot of time has passed since these crimes were committed, we understand that in certain proceedings and the statute of limitations expires even for serious crimes in a year and we are doing everything from us and we will do everything possible to ensure that the final procedural decisions are made in the proceedings that are currently in court and that these decisions are not exempt from liability due to the influence of the statute of limitations in particular, the guilty verdicts of the organizers

of the february 18-20 mass murders have not been punished. the case against yanukovych , the ex-head of the ministry of internal affairs, zakharchenko, and eight other former top officials will begin to be considered at best in the spring of this year, on the other hand , the case against the direct perpetrators who opened fire on the euromaidans are five ex-berkut residents who are accused of murdering 48 people in december 2019. they were handed over to russia as part of a large-scale exchange, but two of the former berkut residents voluntarily returned to the dock . three more are being tried in absentia. the trial has been ongoing since 2014. but at the end of last year the court finally went to the jury room, this year there should be a verdict of the prosecutor demanding life imprisonment against the rest of the experts who fled to russia immediately after the victory the euromaidan is being investigated in absentia, investigators have established at least 20 people are fighting against ukraine or serving in the so-called law enforcement agencies of the russian federation, and the ex-leader of the sevastopol berkut even became a russian senator and supported putin's

aggression. this example links the connection between the actions on the maidan and the war those people who killed people on the maidan , now they actively participate on the side of the enemy and kill our servicemen , some of the crimes have remained unsolved, in particular, it was not possible to establish the murderers of the first victims of serhii nigoyan, mykhailo zheznevskii and roman senyk. well, unfortunately, we also did not manage to erect a full-fledged large memorial at the place of the shootings, both on the university and on hrushevsky, and when i see these self-made memorials, uh, put together by the hands of ordinary guests of the capital of kyiv ukrainians and at the place of nigoyan's murder here and there at the entrance to the dynamo stadium and on instytutskaya well, i feel ashamed. why is the state in nine years and

under two presidents uh, how many times have there been three verkhovna rada convocations during this time and there is still no full-fledged memorial there. i think that these people are worthy of this, well, this is my personal opinion. maybe i should send tetyana kozachenko. is a lawyer , a public figure, joining us? is tetyana with us? good health, tetyana. good day. do you agree that it's nine o'clock ? years well, if we were not able to find the culprits and convict them, then we should have erected a memorial at the place where people were killed, after all, a sufficient amount of time has passed, what do you feel when you see these small man-made memorials in the places of people's spaces, you know my question even not just about feelings, but about the fact that i am currently taking an active part in the affairs of the maidan, we still have court hearings every week, every month

, at least two cases are being implemented, where the employees of the berkut special unit will not be brought to justice because you must understand that when the general prosecutor's office itself conducted cases for a long time and took them to court, after they were brought to court until the time they started court hearings have been held in our cases for more than two years, that is, the courts refused to consider them, the judges took the appeal and only now the court hearings are quite active, but the deadlines are passing , but in any case, all these cases are extremely important, we will represent the interests of the victims and will to do everything so that this was given a legal and historical assessment because it all matters for

history and such delaying of cases and such avoidance of responsibility became possible only because the arbitrariness of the authorities is so metastases have penetrated all branches of state bodies that in fact their eradication takes a long and painful time, but we must do it in any case and give an assessment unfortunately maybe we will not get what we hoped for in full and maybe all historical events, in particular, today the moment, the act of military aggression, it is a combination of how the government reacted at the time , but it is so strong now, after all, civil society was born, and there are many civil institutions that

do this, and in particular, the journal in order to memory, attention to this made sense, after all, we could build the nation we hope for tetyana , on the eve of the anniversary, the head of the department of organization of procedural management of pretrial investigations and support of public prosecutions of criminal proceedings regarding the maidan became more active in terms of information . i honestly thought that this person has been on a well-deserved rest for a long time. no, he is actively working, he reported the following. he is currently in court 134 proceedings of the maidan period are related to 254 people, at the same time the verdicts starting from the 14th year are a little more than 50, only 50 people were convicted in the maidan cases, about 40 people were released from criminal liability due to the expiration of the statute of limitations, and he said that another 60 cases will expire their statute of limitations one year ago, don asked the parliamentarians to change the criminal or criminal procedural code or both codes together so that these crimes do not

have a statute of limitations what do you think the effectiveness of the work of this department and this proposal to change the code for maidan cases so that no one escapes from the punishing ball of ukrainian justice, please in this part . i think the prosecutor's office is trying more to transfer the political and media problem to someone because the changes in the legislation are not should be extended to those persons whose cases were examined before the change of this legislation. so it does not work, so in principle, i think that attention is simply being diverted from those problems that the general prosecutor's office is not correct enough represents interests in particular and in these cases directly, we, as lawyers, lawyers, representatives of the victims, observed and very often prosecutors did not appear at the meeting , they delayed it, postponed it, there were many reasons , including invented ones, why the case

was not properly presented are not always ready for such cases, and it is enough that the replacement of the prosecutor's staff, the replacement of the prosecutors in the case also affected the fact that they were considered for a long time, so for me now it is more of a political media presentation in order to we tried to transfer responsibility. well, you see, some other body didn't do something so that we had such an opportunity . i don't believe in it anymore, ms. tetiana. well, what are the prospects of these cases in a year ? the maidan is just coming together, will we make it by then? i also don't really believe that they will make it here, although the judges regularly schedule meetings and cases are considered and

are still being interrogated. in total, most cases will be closed due to the fact that the time limit for bringing persons to criminal responsibility has expired, but this does not rehabilitate the grounds. that is, this does not mean that people who are now suspects are accused, who will say that they are not guilty . that is, this is an exemption from criminal liability on non-rehabilitative grounds, but in any case, the evaluation by the courts , including the video broadcast of court sessions and the display of procedural documents, is a part of the story that is of great importance for the assessment of what took place and for that reason they will be done for the future, so these processes must be completed and take the most active part in them .

i want to ask you something about anti-corruption activities in the light of the fact that there are now competing for the position of director of the nabu. there are about 3 dozen candidates . the fact that some candidates have close ties with the president's office, well, at least some kind of dependence. how do you see the transparency of this competition and the compliance of the children that we don't have deep corruption, like deep corruption , the german said the president, well, in general , you saw this video serhiy andrushka radio svoboda schemes what are yours impressions of let's see, i'd like to know, we talked yesterday with a friend, i was very impressed, yes, i'm impressed, i respect serhiy a lot, but all the same, understanding the media content

of the material, even the background music that plays is enough uh, this is such a manipulative moment for me that distorts the picture, but there is accuracy, but what i definitely agree with and what i would like and uh, to interpret, i would say so to explain . all the time when we consider candidates , we consider not only, for example, we must consider the negative compromise because there are many questions and the candidates must be able to e-e and are obliged to explain all the questions that they have , in particular regarding property, but we are always looking for only the corporamat or lobo, it is logical to ask each and every candidate and why you are worthy to hold such a position that in your specific life path, what cases, what actions, what professional achievements indicate that you are not just there is anything negative about you at the moment, but worthy

to hold such a position and you can confirm such experience in the field of anti-corruption activities there is no such thing, but i would go even further, i would tell our pravda not only about the candidates, but i would start with the members of the commission, because all the members of the commission should extremely use the reputation of our society for all these years of competitions many have seen how distorted they are, how they chose the head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, which was often delayed, they could not choose for two years, now, in fact, it will be a year. how come there is no head of the national anti-corruption bureau and a competition. everything that is in the process. we have seen how in this way they chose the economic security bureau by actually appointing an official of the tax authorities, and now we do not

observe any public work of this authority, therefore, unfortunately, there are a lot of questions political and media plane, and i don't want to talk about specific candidates, because while the contest is going on, it is the exclusive prerogative of journalists, but the exclusion during the contest of persons who occupy the first positions and at the same time on grounds that must be determined at the time of acceptance of the documents is a very dangerous phenomenon that says that they can try to empty the competition, they will choose three candidates, and in fact the cabinet of ministers can choose any candidate that gets in, which, in the opinion of the officials

, is more favorable to them, because all the members of the cabinet ministers of all executive bodies, they are or may be involved in the investigations of the national anti-corruption bureau, and of course there are risks in this, so we as a society are watching, we hope, but unfortunately, unfortunately, so far the competitions are not transparent enough, and in particular serhiy pointed out the disadvantages when and the law does not reflect how the interviews will be conducted or evaluated for the integrity of the contestants, their evaluation is not completely transparent, which means that manipulation can occur in this part when the members of the competition commission, after the approval of the cabinet of ministers, can choose the candidate who can be loyal, in particular, to the presidential administration, the positive nature of the journalistic presentation , if the journalist shows well, one of the candidates buys a tesla there for himself. so , the video gives everything to the wife, and in

the explanation, where does it come from? he has this kind of money, he says . i have cryptocurrency on me and i bought it, and then andrushko looks. and there is no open address, this cryptocurrency goes to where did he earn it, it is not registered on the network, no can you confirm this information? another candidate e leads the dabi there and is undergoing two criminal cases. did he pass? it seems that one is closed and the other is not closed because the bribe amount is the same for two, 120,000, and he is now trying to lead there. the third candidate has a father who is a citizen of russia. well, maybe we we are not responsible for the parents, well, less so, the fourth candidate bought a passat car there for uah 30,000, where can you buy such positions now, show me , i will also go and buy - what are you manipulative? it's true. he didn't lie about anything. i completely agree with you. it's even true. it's not just that serhiy asks a question. and how the consultant answers

the fact that we can all make our own assessment . i'll say now there's enough fun music playing behind the scenes. and music for me, when i perceive information, adds an additional background in fact and can change the meaning of the information , and i believe that on the one hand, journalists have the right to apply it, but who does not distinguish professional activity for people in fact, music can change the content to such an extent that it is perceived as, well, let's say, in a completely different format, in terms of information , it is provided with the highest standards of journalism, and in terms of voice acting, it was a little manipulative for me, but this is my assessment as a pro, in any case, i just congratulate of all the journalists who do their work in this part because we have the opportunity to assess and ask questions about

the following and can follow these events, otherwise we did not know at all about how the competition takes place and these the candidates did not explain in particular their attitude towards wealth or those controversial issues that are related to them mrs. tetyana thank you very much for participating in the broadcast tetyana kozachenko was with us a lawyer and a public figure thank you for your professional analysis then we will talk about the grain corridor our next guest is in munich and there in addition to the main event of the security conference, there are also parallel ones, in particular , in terms of security, e.e., the agrophone for food and food security and saw the new corridor , and we will talk about the agrofund with olga trofimtseva, ambassador for special assignments ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine acting minister of agrarian policy of food in the 19th year of 2019, is ms. olga with us? well, for now

, we will remind you that we are collecting for this way , whether we collect or not, have you already understood or not? because the amount there is already very close until the end, we are waiting, but thank you for joining us , let's finish. there are literally a few drops left. powerful portable battery stations with solar panels for our soldiers, the first five stations will be transferred to 46 separate artillery brigade until the end of the broadcast , we can absolutely sort it all out , please join us for now olga trofimtseva is already live on the air with munich, we understand mrs. olya we congratulate you good afternoon good afternoon good morning glory to ukraine well, tell me what

happened at the munich conference regarding your profile, especially agrarian security , agricultural fund, grain, corridor, what new information yes, thank you very much. you know, yes, it was also interesting for me to see that the munich peace conference. of course, it is primarily about safety in the broadest sense, but food safety also turned out to be an important part of just such safety issues, and the delegation confirmed this and the un and the world food program at a fairly high level, representatives of these organizations were also usually present in munich and in fact the day before. well, in general, you know that the munich conference is like any such a-a large-scale event, it includes many so-called sites

when various expert groups of the initiative also organize er-e discussions, round tables er hm and so on, various topics that are also extremely important, once again, except for the security itself the topics of the conference directly and just before the start of the conference, there was such an event organized by the german-ukrainian dialogue , which was attended by representatives of the political circles of business, ukrainian deputies, and representatives of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, including this one, was the chief economist of the world food program. and where we discussed, first of all, the issue of food security, well, we touched a little on energy and if we talk about the issue of the grain initiative, then of course the grain corridor. and of course, it should be noted that not

only ukraine, but and the world is now worried about the question of its extension in march why because we can already see that russia is starting acts in principle in its unchanging format already starting this topic let's say yes, this is how to pump and you can say so and it starts trying to somehow destabilize the situation, in fact , they are being done from the very beginning, we also knew in principle and talked about it also somewhat , well, it will happen, but now before the extension, the pressure on russia is starting to increase that well, we, as participants of this grain initiative, do not see the expediency of its extension, and we are not very satisfied with the results for ourselves, although the question arises , what should be the results for you, if we are talking about the export of ukrainian grain?

and of course then such trading begins. yes, in relation to that, for example, in relation, again , to the reduction of sanctions pressure. and which , according to the same putin, out of all the representatives of russia , the stations do not affect the economy at all or, on the contrary, are very positive, but for some reason when it comes to that among others, for a new initiative, they are beginning to ask for some sanctions to remove financial sanctions that affect , for example, the export of agricultural products or well in russian and so on. well , the second point is that they compromise because they say that uh, there, everyone will die without our food, so poor africans and they manipulate it. well, without russian food, africans will not die, but uh, it was really interesting to hear the numbers, including from the uh, world food program

yes, from the representative of the faculty, who clearly said that we saw this wave of growth of people, and this is without exaggeration. let's say that people who are on the brink of death from hunger, yes, the dance, the state of starvation, when the covid started er, that number jumped from a hundred to er out of a hundred and 135 million in the world, yes, there are 276 million such people when the war in ukraine began, uh, russian, accordingly, russian aggression in ukraine, then accordingly, this number jumped by another 100 million, so that is, uh, russia added just eh hmm problems, let's say this to the whole world, first of all, it's the so-called global south, and talk here about the fact that without them , someone there will die, if it weren't for the actions of russia, then there would be much more opportunities to level this situation and work calmly and what is happening now we see that well

really, first of all, you too. i think our viewers have heard that russia is constantly sabotaging the work of this grain initiative, that is, the work of inspection groups, that is, they work as representatives of russia, so even during the allotted working hours, they work slowly. sometimes they need to smoke, and sometimes they need to rest, and accordingly, instead of the ten inspections that should take place a day, sometimes less than half of them take place. accordingly, as a result, we see that now there is already a queue of more than 140 ships waiting to enter and to load ukrainian grain, here are such things we are seeing now literally in the last few days, too, hmm, there is such a trend that they began to enter into a strengthened agreement on the export of grain and try to get the ships to load faster. why because , again, everyone expects socialization.

more likely they don’t expect and everyone sees this uncertainty and this nervousness is starting again among traders and all players of the grain market a regarding the fact that it is not known what will happen in march, how will this agreement be extended, we will not of course now we are doing everything possible to ensure that the agreement is not just extended but also expanded , you know that we have been talking for a long time about the need to include not only grain, but also other types of products, this agreement was about a certain e-e frequent and about what is possible to consider mykolaiv as a part of this grain agreement but here , and at this round table, a very clear message was sounded from the ukrainian side regarding the fact that well , you and i have to be aware of two facts, and

the first is that, hmm, let's say some kind of blocking or in general, the impossibility of ukraine to participate in the global grain trade is uh, very, very, nothing like this, not only for ukraine and the ukrainian farmer, but for the whole world, and this is really confirmed again by international organizations, they absolutely agree with this, and the second factor that our best export managers, or let's say yes, our best grain traders, are the armed forces of ukraine , without question, and we emphasized several times that when we were asked, what can we do for you help or how in what, what specific actions can be taken in order to take this zone into the initiative and support and expand it and everything else. e-e of the black sea exclusively, the demilitarization of this region, including the reconquest of crimea, including the demilitarization of crimea, can

help to make the black sea once again such a calm place for international grain and agricultural trade, as it actually was since the days of ancient greece. olga a that in russia i am silent - yesterday, it seems, or the day before yesterday, they included our military expert, an expert on food issues, and they told me i did not know about this, you know for sure about this that last year russia set a record for harvesting grain, a record harvest, they collected 159 million tons, and this in their previous record was in the 17th year, it was 135 and a half million tons, and now it is 159 million, which is 18% more than their previous record, and it is not likely that, under the current situation, the place of ukrainian grain in the world will be taken simply by the russians with their grain what are they now

they are collecting in record quantities, please yes, thank you, they really have a very good one that impresses the eyes of last year’s grain crops, it’s true, but let’s not forget that part of this record is also grain, which in large a-a large volumes between perfectly know and we have followed this the topic was discussed a about the theft of grain and that is, in these 150 million, a couple of million of ukrainian grain is also added at least. so, you should not forget the second point. hmm, here you know there is such a threat, and i think in fact that it is one of from the very beginning, in fact, one of the goals of russia is not only about this military aggression, this is also about attempts to really squeeze ukraine out of the global market, from the global markets where ukraine occupied and still occupies such a decisive place, that is in principle, we are also talking about this kind of economic terror. and we also

talked about this from the very beginning, and actually, by the way , if you look at the address of our ministers, mr. kubrakov and mr. kuleba, a few days ago, just about the grain initiatives, and in this appeal it was also clearly stated that the situation is so tense and incomprehensible for us as ukrainians because on the one hand, all this attention is focused on the three ports of the great odesa , where these ships are inspected, where we are constantly under control of what we export there, and russia has the right to vote for some reason, at the same time, russia freely trades with itself from the ports of the azov sea and carries some cargo to the black sea. and no one particularly follows this somehow, does not look, and let's say yes, we need it, we need it

. also, we need to pay attention to the question of whether russia can replace ukraine with some and partially maybe somewhere so in the short term yes 10 grain some er, russian can go to such countries, again, like syria and so on , but let's talk about the fact that russia is now er, just like in the world energy markets, such pariah countries yes, with which no one wants to do business, that is this grain is actually not very good let's say directly that it is a desired product, and the second thing is, why do we insist that no sanctions against russia can be weakened precisely in order not to make it easier for them , precisely this export, not to do not to simplify the situation for russia, despite the fact that it is hmm , it is an attack on ukraine, and it also complicates the economic economic component

of some economic processes in ukraine, too, to the maximum