[000:00:00;00] to do the same because without relations there will be no end to the war or peace talks. well, your comment and whether this position was discussed these days in munich, i am asking for a position that was not discussed at all. hungary was not visible. they said it's all terrible and we'll make everything clear. well, he, uh , i don't even fully understand his motives, and whether it's his dependence on russia or some motives that we still don't understand , some personal things are hidden, it's difficult for me explain in fact the country that also suffered in what year 56 soviet tanks moved protesters and destroyed democracy and this was 100 years before that the russian empire did it i don't know how to explain it to be honest but with such a relatively

positive thing it's the fact that after all let's not exaggerate the role of hungary, it does not play a key role in the european union, it does not play a key role in nato, despite all these statements of the body, in the end it supports those sanctions because there is already a consensus european decision . of course, somewhere he crosses something out for us and otaku creates tension, as it were. well, the quality is that it will surely be sold somehow to putin . well, i will repeat it once again, this is a problem, but not a critical problem. the position of hungary but of course it is a problem. well, we have to remember this position , thank you yevgeny. in the studio oleg synyutka oleg oleksiyovych goncharenko appeared in the studio, people's deputy of the eurosolidarity faction, mr. yours, did you read this statement, good day to you, this statement of orban, well, for me, it is, well, i understand that it is possible

oleksiy wonders where and why, i know i think the reason is money. if you don't know what we're talking about, remember that we're talking about money, and probably about russian money, and maybe not always clean money. your comment is probably heard when i quoted this statement that without economic cooperation with russia, there will be no end to peace. this is not a war between good and evil. this is a war between two slavic armies. we are here for nothing. we are members of nato and the european union. this is not our war. you have my word. impossible does hungary have some special dividends from friendship with russia as a country, hungarians as a nation, i think not, because today they are integrated into the economy of the european union, their security is primarily security due to membership in the north atlantic defense alliance, so talk about the fact that hungarians as a nation or hungary as a country have

special dividends from russia, definitely not, but we are probably talking about one person personally , or maybe a group of people who are addicted , who have compromising materials, or who think that in this way they will stay closer to the authorities, but i really don’t care it's a pity. and here i agree with my colleague oleksiy. i am very sorry that urban is crossing out the tragedy of 1956, when soviet tanks in budapest destroyed the hungarians, as they are doing today in the east of ukraine, that is, the muscovites. in 1956, in budapest, the same muscovites who in 1968 in prague are the same muscovites who in 14-23 years in ukraine nothing has changed for them but i think that orban's participation will be very sad because i am

convinced that people, well, in the end, just him will be removed from the post he held today takes and after that this dark side of the hunchback will be revealed and the memory of him as a person who for a long time leads one of the european states will actually be very , very sad, that is, he closes a page in history for himself with temporary benefits, probably personal benefits or personal ambitions as odin from the leaders of the european countries, the prime minister called to complete the development of a security guarantee for the country before nato in july, it will be held in july , bloomberg writes about it, oleg. how do you see what happened in munich in terms of security conferences, your colleagues were there, did you see something for yourself, which is a signal for the real readiness to provide us with heavy weapons? well, by july, they only have to prepare

security guarantees for us. and here, every day counts in march. the discussion regarding the guarantees for ukraine after the victory or during the war with the muscovites and then it was a very dangerous discussion, do you remember the guarantee of russia even this was heard in the information space, the guarantee of several countries and it was discussed even then european solidarity is probably the only one among all political forces, she said very clearly, friends, these are all fmr things, the only guarantee that is really important is membership in nato, and a year has passed today, 85 90% of ukrainians say that the only guarantee for ukraine can be post-war ukraine, and i am convinced that it is necessary to ask the question about the start of the procedure right now, immediately, this is membership in

nato, therefore, in my opinion, such statements are very dangerous; in my opinion, such statements should be very clearly opposed by ukrainian diplomacy on led by president zelensky, all other guarantees except membership in nato are a fata morgana, you don't have to think about it, you don't have to approach it, you have to take one very clear position, and today politicians really just because it's not the position of any individual political force, it's not the position of any of a separate leader. this is the position of ukrainians today. take sociology 85-90% for membership in the eu and nato, so there is no need today to offer us anything other than membership in nato and this july nato summit of freedom. he should open the procedure and membership of ukraine in nato and here, in fact, the question is not so much about the nato countries as the question today about the ukrainian authorities. it was a big mistake of zelenskyi when

, after being elected president, he refused to go to great britain for the nato summit. i think it was zelenskyi's mistake when he did not go to madrid last year for the nato summit, but we already have it the way we have it, and today we need to correct these mistakes, that 's why in july in vilnius it should be very, very significant for ukraine, but here we are again focusing on the issue of hungary, oleksiy said it does not have any fundamental levers of influence, no fundamental influence on the leadership positions of nato, but it has the right of a blocking veto and the same is the position of turkey. and it is also unknown how it will react to our initiative to join nato, we are working with these countries. well, in this regard, is it not it is important, how do they fit in, he will say: and you are against baba yaga? there was such a cartoon series in the soviet union that wanted baba yaga to stop the organization of the moscow olympics there, so history may repeat itself

now, we definitely have to work with these countries and not only with hungary, not only with turkey of course we understand today that the leaders of nato are the united states of america, we understand the significant influence of germany and france in the nato security system, we need to work with absolutely everyone, but the key word here is to work, not to talk, not to think. it is necessary to make contact , to conduct negotiations, and on the other hand, one should not think that in july ukraine's membership in nato will take place in one day, remember poroshenko always said and insisted that it should not be postponed for tomorrow we will receive an action plan for nato membership, the war has changed these things somewhat, it is true. i think that if we had received an action plan for nato membership in the 19th year, we would have met the 22nd year in a completely different status. the war

changed a lot of things, but for sure, in july there should be a decision on the start of the procedure regarding ukraine's membership in nato, this is a task and against such a decision, believe me , neither hungary nor anyone else will protest, you mentioned sociology, but regarding the church, we also have certain figures, almost 80% ukrainians that the state has to one degree or another to intervene in the activities of the ukrainian industrial church means the moscow patriarchate. well, who calls itself that, in fact, there are 80% of the state that should intervene , what do these numbers indicate, in your opinion? and that now with the legislative initiative to ban the russian church, i was probably among those many people who saw the process of creation of the independent orthodox church of ukraine and the role of the fifth president poroshenko in this process, it is not for nothing that the name of

poroshenko as the president of ukraine is written in the tomos because his role in obtaining the tomos in creation of an independent ukrainian church was significant enough, therefore i have no doubt that regardless of the fact that the state and the church - these are completely different structures , different organizations, these different approaches, but in today's conditions, when it comes to the spiritual independence of ukraine, the state must strengthen the opportunities for the ukrainian church. especially if in the 19th year, in fact, then the infamous pechersk court blocked a very rapid movement towards the creation of a single church by making a decision and blocking the transformation and use the name of the uoc mp because today there is no such church. there is a russian orthodox church in ukraine and the state must take very clear

steps today. the first step is the adoption of the corresponding law in the parliament . this draft law was passed unanimously by the specialized committee and has not been submitted to the session hall for the second month, that is , the state is not helping, and the state in the person of the leadership of the parliament, i do not know who else is interfering, is simply blocking this process because the second step after this law is very simple, each community must decide where it is, because no one can prevent a community from becoming a part of the russian orthodox church , this is freedom of speech, if it is not painful and bitter to us , freedom of conscience. forgive, no matter how painful and bitter it is to us, but each the community must say it is moving into the bosom of the orthodox church of ukraine or it becomes a part of the russian orthodox church kirill gundyaev fsb and this process must be accelerated by the state

the state must adopt normative a document according to which, during the month, quarter, half of the year, every community has the right to decide and it will be correct. from the point of view of spiritual freedom and from the point of view of freedom of conscience, from the point of view of the law, therefore, i share the opinion of our people that the state in this sense should contribute to this process and it is very strange that today's government does not listen to the people well, i don't know if it is worth looking for some deliberate actions here, maybe it's just ugh, and why is the state blocking this law now, if there is a request, 80% of people say that it is necessary to intervene, something is needed do you remember in the 19th year, when bakanov was appointed head of the security service of ukraine

, then we, the representatives of european solidarity in the parliament, said that this could not be the case. we were found to be at fault, that is, until today. a new head of the security service was already appointed, and the previous head did not report for his work, and this is not just a shame, it is illegal, and today, when we talk about the current government, we understand that people who are connected in one way or another with various structures, god forbid, but it is quite possible that they are from the fsb of russia, they are today and they very often act as the brake of such a process. don't change either, well, no, no, he didn't answer for anything, he didn't explain anything, he didn't answer for anything , i

wanted vasyl balyuk to be not bakanov and take real steps. collaboration, treason, it is possible that with the rest of the important legislative initiatives, the meetings of the verkhovna rada are not open for us now in the conditions of security. with your work, there are very hmm solutions that lie on the surface that should be very fast , but unfortunately they slow down. projects of solutions are being held up, their introduction into the session hall is delayed, this is a decision that must be very quick, because it is obvious that these are collaborators, and why today the authorities do not want me to understand why they do not want them , then there will not be enough votes for all kinds of fake bills, because the opzj is voting today not stupidly. i think that they are just

afraid and in this way they just vote for anything, if only they are not kicked out of the parliament, but this is wrong, it cannot be, and that is why it is a quick decision that is necessary in the end, which the society of ex-prisoners demands today should not be neither in the parliament nor in the local councils, which is more long-term but extremely important - these are laws that will help integrate ukraine into the european community and donato , when we received the nomination, we received the candidacy with the condition of fulfillment a number of parameters and, unfortunately, to date, we have not fulfilled all the parameters. and in some directions, we are also. well, in my opinion, we are worsening our relations between ukraine and the european

union. i mean the norm that concerns of the constitutional court, it was adopted contrary to the position of the european union, contrary to the explanations of the venice commission, and we , under european solidarity, have prepared a draft decision that can very quickly correct this rule on the formation of judges of the constitutional court. and of course there are deep things that concern the army that concern the economy, everything is much more complicated here, but i looked at the numbers yesterday that 68% of the ukrainian budget is formed by year at the expense of the aid of the countries of the european union, the united states of america, and other partners of ours, of course, it is very dangerous 67 67 it will be 2/3, it is almost two-thirds, and to return to the regional councils and mandates in the councils and

local councils and yours, you already have them there volunteers appeared who submitted mandates and wrote statements. yes, this is korolevska and her husband is a soloist. i think that these volunteers will probably be expelled during the next parliamentary week, because that is good, and no one sits in the local councils and writes statements, mandates. they don't add up, maybe everyone does in the verkhovna rada too, is that good? of course it's good, but you know it, it's like that . well, my eyes are closed, because i haven't seen the joy of the queen or her husband for a long time, and she's in a fog, that's why you didn't see her, so i'm going back to the bill which was pushed by the servants of the people about remote voting in their time , can you imagine if this bill became law then korolevska then others would well then maybe honey felt yes but they pressed

a button and told that they were people's deputies i remember very well the discussion on the day when this issue was passed through the rules committee, and i then asked my friends , the war is on the front line, the military is not afraid to do its duty. you are afraid to come to the parliament and do your duty, and no one can answer that but to great regret, through the regulatory committee of the servants of the people and the psg, this story about remote voting was pushed through and only in the hall they were rebuffed . day good day good day mr. ruslan well, i saw some of our anti-corruption representatives there at the munich conference, in particular mykhailo zhirnakova. i think yesterday i saw on a video in munich the topic of ukrainian corruption, it is somehow not controlled, the bad word is monitored by our western partners, well, in particular, on

similar sites. that is they only talk about military aid, the security of the military at such summits, or about the danger of corrupt acts of certain of our homegrown representatives, there is no need for russian even there the occupier, if a ukrainian official steals here, that means he is also doing a very big evil, was this topic discussed in munich or not? i will do it again, so far we do not depend on providing ukraine with the appropriate weapons to stop the war and to de-occupy ukraine from our actual homework, this is the fight against corruption and the rule of law and other things that

we actually need as a democratic country that oppose the totalitarianism of russia but were the questions raised, in particular, about the alleged corruption in the procurement of the ministry of defense, were the questions raised about the actual effectiveness of the prevention of corruption in ukraine, about the need to return, for example, electronic declarations so that individual representatives of the majority, such as mp halimon ta, do not give up the property that he uses well, because he has to declare it, and unfortunately, due to the fact that the declarations do not work at the moment, they were stopped for the time of martial law. in principle, it is very difficult to prove the existence of excess property, which most likely appeared due to actual corruption schemes, and here what depends more depends, however , how much our western partners will be ready to help ukraine in its recovery and development actually now or we have

where the occupied territories already need investment, in the end even all of ukraine due to constant russian bombing there is a lot of destruction that needs money and western money in the first place, but no one will invest a lot of money in a corrupt the americans went to the country in general to create an additional control mechanism through the inspectors general, who recently visited ukraine somewhere similar, and now they are discussing in the european parliament how to find additional control mechanisms, so returning to your question, thank god this does not interfere with the supply of weapons but did it rise or they talked about the need to combat corruption, because unfortunately few people believed the president a few weeks ago who said that there is no corruption in ukraine, all

the corrupt have fled to monaco impression that ours will not return later from monaco after the end of the war, you know the panel of words, and you mentioned the minister of defense about him. what do you like about this story, i just, well , we monitor, we see what is happening, first the information wave from discrediting, then the intention to change the minister, even prepared , registered the corresponding project so that the minister could be a military officer under a certain name is kyryla budanov, then time passes, everything plays back, the minister remains, the minister leaves, ramstein returns the question is not raised, i understand the parliament sessions, no one sees what is happening in the hall , and no one has seen what state our minister is in now, in general. i am sorry for the vulgarity or not. yes, some opinions of different people say that everything already

remains for now, and it will be seen later. what do you know about this? how does it generally affect the combat capability of the ukrainian army, this is also the main, well, important question, please at the moment, this does not affect the military's combat ability to provide it with operationally necessary food. the minister most likely simply reacted very inadequately to quite reasonable questions about the existence of a scheme in the purchase of the so-called rychovka, in the first place he ate, well, but if he had been told about these schemes by representatives and the public and investigative journalists and our international partners when he took office that this should be dealt with a-but varshikov

paid more attention, well, in fact, there is the provision of weapons, and he explained that, well , even you understand that the machine is such that everything you will monitor, but if there are any negative trends, then you need to react and not try to name them. well, there, ah, send the sbu there to journalists, as it turned out later, there were no other things. discuss the price of eggs. this is not what we are talking about. really change approaches, but when the different people in principle respond adequately, did he turn to the president, since the president nominates our defense minister, and here, in principle, it is logical that he turned not only to michael, but also to the president with a proposal if there is a need i'm not a deserter, i won't run away, but if you think it's necessary to change, please change, i didn't say anything to him, well , that is, traditionally in our personnel policy format

, like we'll think about it, and here the minister learns from telegram channels that they already want to transfer him somewhere to the ministry of strategic industry to the ministry of justice. where else? well, of course, the minister, if they would marry me without me , said very clearly that no, i either work here or , in principle, i have something to do. in the end , the difference is quite successful, and we remember the lawyer in his participation in particular as in the matter of defending the position of the presidential candidate yushchenko and many other directions, therefore, in principle, if well, firstly, is varshikov personally involved in corruption, most likely no, there are no facts, so is there corruption in the ministry of defense we can pass several criminal cases, so that the law enforcement officers are suspected of actually counteracting, or is there a movement to deal with this situation, there is also even at the nato level , they agreed that our buyers will cooperate with others or hang

different people, unfortunately, this is the worst, the new year of the war almost already let's try to summarize the results of your parliamentary work , we planned to talk about it, but synyutka is in our studio p olezhe well, there are many negative points but we can also list what the verkhovna rada did, after all, the conditions of real a war of full-scale offensive, well, the conditions are not very favorable for anything, especially for the work of the legislature, but despite this, the results of the work for the year, well, first of all, the verkhovna rada fulfilled all the tasks entrusted to it in the conditions of war, starting from the maintenance of martial law and mobilization and ending adoption of financial documents related to the budget, related to those norms that made it possible to finance the armed forces of ukraine, and this was done very quickly and

on time without any delays, without any unnecessary discussions, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted those political statements, those political appeals that were needed as a demonstration of ukraine's position, as a demonstration of the unity of society, but unfortunately in the verkhovna rada, especially the further it went, the full-scale invasion began to manifest itself, money laundering schemes, various actions , for example, what concerns the gambling business as far as i understand, before the period of time , the norm was not signed, which removed the issue of taxation of gambling business according to a simplified scheme, by which we lost, well, a lot resources and in principle it is wrong even from the collective point of view. for example, although this is not a matter for the parliament, this issue was accepted by other authorities, but as much as we do not demand, as much as we do not ask for the last meeting, we do not convince our colleagues that it is necessary

to intervene in the situation and return the payment of rewards to the ukrainian military unfortunately , the parliament, the majority of the parliament does not react to this in any way and it is very unfortunate, since the budget for the 23rd year was discussed and adopted, this is also wrong because there is absolutely no technical discussion of thousands of rules that were passed in the budget, some less than an hour, that is, the parliament today, as you know black and white, some things are very correct, very fast, very necessary, and some things sometimes begin to give the impression that for many deputies the war has already ended and completely, completely different interests have begun therefore, the first part should be taken and, on the contrary, strengthened, and against the second part, i am convinced that it should be such a very sharp categorical struggle in the parliament, because, for example, what concerns freedom of speech. well, we understand that

neither the eu nor nato will accept us if there is repression of freedom of speech and at the same time the parliament does not react in any way to things related to the exclusion of the digital air and the fifth and direct other channels or for example about the constitutional court, so we understand if there will be to operate such a rule on the formation of the constitutional court, on the selection of the constitutional court, we do not participate in either the eu or nato, on the contrary, the parliament does not want to agree to this and does not want to change the draft law proposed by european solidarity, since we have already been excluded from the air digital, yes, the only marathon. well, you had some kind of explanation. but why can’t we watch the parliament session, at least in the recording ? i can’t understand your results at all , yaroslav.

the parliament worked the most difficult period without interruptions and during the bombardment of kyiv, when the russian troops were stationed 30 km from kyiv , it gathered and voted in full. indeed, he worked to the full 100 and what the colleague actually talked about and also parliamentarianism was a huge contribution that we received the candidacy of the european community because he adopted the necessary laws, but the further the enemy was repelled from kyiv itself, the more the parliament began to turn into a ratification structure at the office of the president , what would be allowed from the office because here i and mr. oleg cannot really agree that the parliament supports censorship, in fact, if laws are submitted to the parliament, they are voted on and provide the opportunity for a more adequately weighted coverage but why are they not included because the majority because the president's office very clearly