tv [untitled] February 19, 2023 4:30pm-5:00pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] turkey or another person who knows the turkish language. she can open the website of the governorship and see what was done, how it was done , that is, even in istanbul , such repair works have started again, that is, in fact, they are working, just work, i can say about it the last question. look. well, you can't forget about politics, because in the summer, to be more precise. at the end of the spring, there will be elections . erdoğan's position, this earthquake and the fact that so much was destroyed, will he be able to restore, er, explain, restore some
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schools, hospitals, houses, or vice versa, people will say oh, and yes , we don't have money inflation, there is no price increase , and the earthquake, no, we will not elect him, you know now no one will be able to say anything because it will depend on how he will be able to get out of this situation, in fact the situation is very, very bad and you know every day read well how can you say read the thing as it increases here are these numbers about the dead about wounded and uh it's very difficult to say uh well of course it will have an impact but what will be the impact now no one can say because actually uh right now all people are in such despair you know uh maybe some people are looking for someone
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restored from this for example, if someone sees that some person these days celebrating in the turks begins, you know, this is some kind of anger they say we are all crying right now and you are celebrating something, for example , yesterday we held a charity fair in our country , part of the profit we will give it to the zsu and we will give a part to these victims and uh, we had such and such a decor this well, maybe you can now see behind me ah these balloons here are two here are these little hearts yellow and blue and e blue letters a and u here and when i i was riding with these balls, everyone looked at me like that, very, very strange, i say and when i was already at home in this elevator, i asked the person, i said well, you are looking at me like that, i say, do you think that she is being watched when we cry he
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said yes i say i'm not following anything i'm collecting aid for our military for yours victims and this is only part of the decor and he said then and ukraine i say so he says very, very much thank you may god help you that is now click now uh society is in such despair that it is impossible to say how all this will happen but i can say what do you do? desperation, they actually help. thank you very much. the heads of the ukrainian cultural society in the city of istanbul told me here that there is, you can show the footage of that city. i just don't know, i haven't forgotten the name of this city. you see the city, more or less, not more or less. look, where is the destruction, in fact, there is no destruction, and this unique city really can
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do exactly that, and there is the same mayor, for sure, i don’t know about all the furniture in turkey, i know, but a huge number of houses are simply full. i just read a lot about this, the mayor tells me this is precisely the mayor who simply forbade the building of bad houses, and we see that they stayed if something did not fit, he simply did not give permission for construction, and we see people who come forward and say that this is my house it didn't break. it's standing. everyone's alive. everything's fine. well, now i'll start with a question. i'll just turn to that and suddenly someone from the cabinet of ministers, the president's office , the verkhovna rada suddenly watches this program , so let's not wait for something
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to happen, but let's try something with find out, just find some commissions that will go around the houses, find out, it can tell, it can easily be possible to strengthen the capabilities of these houses, maybe for this we need something from the state, something from the municipality, from the citizens well, in short, you don't have to wait this fried rooster, so that he doesn't peck, do you always have this in mind? it's important not to wait. well, because you see, one turkish mayor didn't wait and you see. everyone is now thanking him . although, on the other hand, all the mayors are probably jealous. oh, you're a contagion. it's bad for all of us, they'll put us all in a prison, and you'll be walking around proud, so here too there is envy, not only a ukrainian trait. i think many countries have national traits that are in one way or another connected
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with envy. okay, that's it. i have the impression that i'm ready for the questions. made remains with me questions i will start with them from the end to the beginning i somehow yesterday i decided that i will start from the end and the war of the shepherds of alexander is a catalyst, it accelerates processes in various spheres, and i agree with the historian yaroslav hrytsak who believes that when the first world war began , at its beginning with on the russian side, there were mostly little russians, and from the austrian ruthenians, and at the end of the war, most of them became ukrainians, do you agree with him, what do you think the result of this war will be, and he is already the result, and everyone knows him well, i would be careful now with regard to professional academic historians, i have talked
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about this with mr. hrytsak and mr. yaroslav many times that today history is very complicated and he even came under criticism today for saying something , at least a little, not even something that does not praise ukraine history, its culture is impossible and this will accompany us for years . how can you criticize ukrainians who stand strongly against the onslaught of anti-civilization ? more discussions about the vistula operation and about ukrainian-polish relations in the west of volyn, eh, this will all drag on , i thought about it for a long time. yes, he took part in some discussions, such a cursory one, not directly, i
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always said that we should first solve these issues academically to gather academicians, professors, doctors of science, and with evidence, not verbal proof, we know that the ukrainians have many photos of the torture of the poles who tortured the ukrainians, and we know that the poles have many photos of the ukrainians torturing the poles and when you show and say this the village was like that here was like that here was like that whether someone gave an order or for a centralized reaction or a decentralized one , but a period will begin when ukrainians should not be holy to god , they should
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not be touched. it is possible because you are anti-ukrainian, we have all saints, that's why it's dangerous, oleksandra malorossi wrote here, and i'm convinced that someone will start telling you that you can't speak rusyn like that, and someone will say that there are, i'll say there are rusyns , and someone will say that there are no such friends, this is ukraine ukrainians are like that, ukrainians are just a little different , and this discussion has also been going on since the 90s, so everyone should be careful now , not because people are cowards, but because this is how the world works, first of all, experts , historians, and not someone like me, as they once studied at the history faculty in graduate school, and such as professionally for dozens of years study this or that problem on the ground in archives in
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books with witnesses and so on and so on and so on , then this discussion can move to society, but when historians release some problems to society before they figure something out among themselves, it's dangerous for those historians themselves, that's why the answer to oleksandra is very simple now, all ukrainians now no one uses the word malorossi , maybe someone in russia does, but normal people have not used it for a long time ukrainians will have to seek an understanding of this word . listen, i live in lviv. well, everyone knows that in lviv, when the germans came here , there was a mass murder of jews. ukrainians say that these were unorganized groups. and hooligans and bandits.
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hooligans and bandits are everywhere in every nation, there is no such nation where all are saints , but we have to find out through the archives, through some witnesses , who are they still alive, if they are still alive, now the version is that these were really people who killed jews, but none of them oun no one from the upa or any of the ukrainian organizations gave any such orders. and if, i apologize, there are documents that were given well, then you need to study the documents if they are fair, honest and not some kind of forgery, then you need to recognize and there will be many such things because there are always neighbors they quarrel with each other, there are always problems and we will have to solve these problems and we have to consciously go about it. it will not be easy. i see the next years after the war and at the end of the war
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as very difficult because it will not be possible to criticize ukrainians. president zelensky invited orban to kyiv. he thinks he will come. i would like to i would like to have doubts about the state, because there is no doubt that orban can be shown anywhere and then say : well, what do you say about russia, good russia ? well, show irpin, show mariupol , take him to kharkiv so that a person looked at us and said to all of us that yes, we, but i continue to think that russia is a beautiful country and we continue to be friends with putin, moreover, i would not have any complaints against orbán, in general, the behavior of the horsky
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government. if he explained it in such a more rational way, that is we have nowhere to get gas, we have a russian nuclear power plant and we have no way out excuse us well, you really know how there is no there is no need to catch us, we know that russian gas still flows to europe through the ukrainian gas transport system and the russians pay by the way, the money for this happens, there are different circumstances, but when he says it's not because he doesn't have a way out, he has to do it somehow, he says no, putin is beautiful, putin is great , we treat him well, it's bad, america is bad, here, here it is difficult to find any rationality in all of this , in your opinion, almost the planning of the building from the point of view of security, is it necessary to create concrete security rooms in every house, this is the so
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-called israeli option, have you come across a normal bomb shelter in lviv or kyiv, if of course you use it, well, i have a normal bomb shelter here on the first floor - it's just a basement garage and cars are parked there and everything is fine there. i live in a house with two-meter walls, so i don't often use the bomb shelter, it's like an austrian house from the beginning of the last century, there these are just walls, er, if the question is very simple , the answer is very simple for me, sergey. if we have to build security rooms like in israel, i have been in such rooms for quite some time. well , not often. well, but i have been to israel in every
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the apartment has a very small room that is surrounded by concrete and even if a direct projectile hits it, it destroys the house and the apartment, but the people who sit there will be obliged to sit there . if they don't sit, the fine is big. they sit there when the siren goes off. so they are safe in full, if ukrainians start building such houses with such rooms, it means that the ukrainians have lost the war with russia, that is, the only idea is to bleed russia to such an extent that they cannot even think about any new attack to ukraine, if such a thing is possible and we will build houses with such built-in a-a rooms, then it means russians. she is so bloodless , she can still continue to shoot. and if she does not, the war will be defeated , civilized education in the war with russia is
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only one, so that she does not for at least 150 years could even imagine for the next war , even imagine i'm not saying that they had tanks, aren't they so military that they had five tanks and three planes and that's it and that's it and that's all in the urals and 15 soldiers here oh oh oh oh oh oh oh the russian army must to be like that is not how to ensure itself to ukraine after the victory at the border in 1991, can russia continue shelling, or will ukraine become the second israel? i just answered this question, and what are the chances of joining nato quickly? i am a pessimist here. i do not think that there will be any such special doors open for ukraine.
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i think that the same procedure will be quite long, not the same as the one by which sweden and finland are accepted, but there will be a very long procedure regarding the action plan for nato membership and so on and the like, shorter and faster. this is in my opinion . well, i don't know. they ask me and about architecture come on, let me tell you something, i just have the time, very often pride in people who many know, let's say there in public , arises not because they themselves have pride , but because surrounding the human environment creates such pride in such people, because i myself had star disease there in the 90s, i experienced it all and i even know that i can open this course, but for all stars , they will not go to courses, what is it with stars to say that they are so arrogant no no no no yes
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, surrounding the environment suddenly when a person with it appears on the television screen i even talked about this, they begin to treat this person differently, and an idea arises in their head that he is god, and they begin to ask him: and what do you think about architecture? and how do you make tea, and where do you buy tea, and where did you buy these shoes and where do you rest in the summer and what school does your child go to and where do you get your teeth treated and when this kind of thing happens it is usually a weak person in the bible it is written that a person is weak well and in general we know about it and she started like this i know everything from architecture to security we have health
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health guards talk about politics, politicians develop law enforcement, health deputies know everything, there is nothing that a member of the verkhovna rada does not know , ballet, please, sport, please, football, please, diplomacy , please, between one relationship, please, the first law of thermodynamics, please, the second law of thermodavaika there were the third law of the citizen, which is einstein's theory , please, everyone knows and it doesn't happen very often because they are guilty, but when everyone asks and you are for everyone, great, great, and you say so contemptuously oh well, i have the same shoes and everyone wrote down the address of where you bought them and ran to buy them the next day we met, see mr. vasya or mr. petya or mr. mykola or mr. zhora i have the same shoes and you like them
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on the cheek yes, well, good boy, well done, so you mean it, i don't know everything, i confess i don't know everything - far from everything, but that's the question i had yesterday about two dictators, i already told you, although today i had such a version, everyone says why is it lukashenko to moscow and putin to minsk and then to moscow, is he persuading him that the war has started, and he is persuading me with something? and i thought today . maybe you are lying under my feet. to each other the more and one i am a plane and marriage is a plane well, here we are oh politics and simple human feelings
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i don't understand i don't understand so let's move on let's go let's go let's go maybe i've made it in time tatyana tatyana new toy smart chat bot chad gpt has become available in ukraine, tell me how do you perceive communication with artificial intelligence, are you delighted or what impressions do you have, will this artificial wit take over the world , so i am the last in the line of people who know something about artificial intelligence and even about telephone computer gadgets and so on and so on my dream to have a phone in which there would be only what is called sms and just a phone well, like in those days there 30 years ago when i see here this and this and this action
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is incomprehensible to me this is as i said the third law of thermodynamics about the second i can say something i won't even think about the third one, that's why all artificial intelligences. i'm very similar to putin in this sense. throw some heavy object at me that i don't know at all. well, i know how to use a computer. i use it. i read. i watch. i browse. i won't say, i won't say well, in short, i will get closer to all of this gradually, but i don't, as my friends in the soviet union said, что не замуляет личного общения. i want to see a person. i like to see emotion. i like to see eyes. i like to see one second, third, fourth, and when they write everything between themselves, i don't
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feel the person from that side. maybe it's a disadvantage . maybe it's an advantage. i don't know. i think it's a disadvantage. by the way, i won't lie to you here. what do you think? the war in russia in russia against ukraine is caused only by putin's ambitions. if he had died before the 22nd year, he would not have existed. i think that putin is the personification of russia. you understand my impression. i can be wrong. you feel . i can be wrong. not all i know i may be wrong that putin at the beginning of his first term felt the russian people. he said, well, let me continue yeltsin's position to a certain extent . yeltsin is definitely not the hero of my novel , but he is
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so on. i somehow felt him more from yeltsin with putin, he is putin, i didn't see him closely or saw him or didn't see him well, i don't know, i don't remember, i won't lie, and he groped , he groped. america and the impression that this is when he is then the sociologists said something and counted something, and apparently the russian people did not like it and gradually gradually switched to an absolutely different way of thinking, because if we remember very well, in the beginning of 2000-2001-2002, vitaly vitaly manskyi made films in the light of putin and there just like putin, we need to build democracy, i will not go for a second term
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. well, at the most, i will go for a second term, i will definitely not go for a third. we are sociologists they said listen people like aggressiveness people like non-europeanness people like non-civilization people like to urinate in toilets and so on and so on and so on and he is simply the personification of this deep people in these people and the people are the personification of putin, although they are very similar, so i think he may be this the war would not have started immediately, maybe not in the 22nd, but in the 25th or 30th, but it is obvious that this is a problem , aggressiveness is a big problem today or yesterday , my wife reminded me, one says a russian woman
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, i gave birth to four sons and sent them all to war with against the ukrainians if they are killed, two more of them tremble and also went against the ukrainian and for the tongue, who charged, well, besides alcohol, alcohol and dragged that's why such people are nothing until such people, maybe they can find some medicine , humanity will find the us ambassador to ukraine, john gerbs believes that the president's administration will not support ukraine enough and does not provide the amount of weapons that it could provide to bring victory here, what do you think? i don't believe it, first of all, i don't believe that john said that. i 've known him for many years, ah, i think he said be more careful, so, well, it could have been more well, but maybe not there now, there is not such a number , in short, the diplomat he is always careful, but listen, they said today morning until night and yesterday in munich that give more weapons
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to the ukrainians, give more weapons, give more weapons, and they don’t give them well, yes it doesn't happen, it means there's not enough, so i watched the footage. how american factories that produce shells for the ukrainians work in three shifts from morning to night . that's all. it's not so easy to do it, sir. it's a very complex construction. hey, the community is a complex structure, these tanks are lying somewhere, now they started looking at these tanks, but they are not capable of driving, and they are not capable of shooting, they need to be repaired and so on , i think that if you take it for 100%, why does it slow down, that is, why not so quickly weapons are supplied to ukraine. i think 10-20% - it really may be that there is some kind of brake somewhere, and 80%
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- it's just that no one expected a war, human society is so accustomed to the lack of it, they said that no one will start a war, and that's why we don't care, we have so many weapons we have as many soldiers as generals we don't need this, let's give it all, it's the same, the budget is the same money, let's build a hospital instead, let's build a school, give a kindergarten, give a hotel, let's give money for a theater, a movie, let's go there, let's go here , let's give five, let's give ten, and here goes putin says no, we don't need guns, the situation i'll tell you frankly, i'm not a manifesto, so keep in mind that it's not anyone's fault, it's not someone so angry. biden sits and lies. western politicians don't often lie to them. there are
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journalists around who immediately point fingers because they say you lied, and if you lied once, you may not become the president or a minister or something, because when they say there are no weapons, we ask even yesterday the sovereign secretary of the united states said that we are searching the entire globe, somewhere there is ammunition for the ukrainians, we are looking where only maybe somewhere in the warehouses to help and if you start today how do you imagine producing tanks, then tomorrow tanks will not be produced and shells will not be produced and ammunition will not be produced and airplanes will not be produced, so we will have to endure well, here we are in i personally have to tolerate it, but the guys who are now sitting at zero and there are predatory and terrible attacks by the russian
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invaders and understand that there is no way out, we have to stand, this is a terrible story and we have to die, and only in this way we can win, that is why such a problem exists. thank you for your attention to the news anna eva melnyk will now conduct and i finished my work today and my work will resume only the day after tomorrow, tuesday, in the program katsapoznoznastvo, and now everything is fine . thank you for your attention .
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