[000:00:00;00] everything is in order, everything is under control, everything is being checked, we must not forget that the congress must approve new budget allocations with the help of ukraine, although almost 45 billion dollars have been removed from the current budget by september 30, but they can end earlier and it may be necessary that the congress must to approve an addendum to the budget in order to allocate more money for aid to ukraine and the republican house of representatives in the majority, so if they turn it off , the administration must show everything is in order well, all the more so that among the republicans there is an ultra-right group, one out of every 12 of these ultra-rights, in general

. against this resolution, that is, it means that he will not even put it to a vote , well, in order to get help through the congress. i think that, in particular, because of this , this control of his can be strengthened well, i think that this is correct, because it is necessary that the money be spent correctly, but it is necessary that ukraine be able to receive the new aid package without any obstacles, so that it will be necessary that additional funds be allocated this fiscal year, and that for the next fiscal year , which schedule will start on october 1, so that the funds will also be allocated for the games , the university professor is in direct contact with us and

joins our ether of politics and inter-parliamentary cooperation, mrs. iryna, congratulations. so, after the start, let’s give you a summary of this, i promise once again, the munich conference. what kind of atmosphere did you see there, the atmosphere of waiting for this quick victory or the atmosphere of awareness that ukraine will need to be helped as much as it will be, well, for me, it’s very an important parallel is last year. when it was already very strong , this breath of evil war was felt that we are one step away from something terrible and that cannot be denied . last year, everyone kept repeating how mantras about the need for a political-diplomatic settlement, and the ukrainian authorities and our partners said that they still believe that putin will not go any further than this year's munich is radically 180°

different in atmosphere from the previous conference, primarily because of faith in ukraine, our international partners do not hide that uh , at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, they gave ukraine a maximum of six weeks to survive there , and the fact that we took place and simply endured as a state without losing statehood is really a big victory here great admiration for the ukrainian army. i am saying this now without pathos. and obviously everyone is aware of the feat of the ukrainian military, how they hold this front in front of a brutal army that has an advantage in both numbers and weapons. now you ask the right question, which is ukraine, obviously in the center attention of this conference, but how do our partners as a world see the development of the war , firstly, everyone is really worried about

the possible development of the scenario that it will be a frozen conflict, everyone realizes that this is the worst possible scenario, secondly it is very important that at the conference no one talks about peace, they talk about the victory of ukraine, and this is an absolutely important emphasis because the victory of ukraine presupposes the defeat of russia, and everyone is tired that in order to defeat, we need very serious military aid, armed aid, third well, if a year ago, germany put us there and toasts, it’s just like a shock to myself, 5,000 helmets today, chancellor scholz calls on partners to more actively transfer tanks to ukraine, these are good signals, but it is important that they are not just words . ukraine is worried about logistics and speed

arms transfers and of course there are a number of and here about er these trends that are alarming a -and our partners and between the lines and not publicly eh do not hide that they are afraid so unfortunately we have problems with communication with the grain surveyor but it will be restored so because many in fact, there are questions about the munich conference, in particular the message of the main president, er , i think you listened to mr. vitaliy, his speech was about speeding up the supply of weapons to us by our partners, especially within the framework of the tank coalition , even in lavshol he already said he addressed everyone partners said who has tanks, let's all give them to ukraine. although before that he himself was not very uh so willing to provide us with such heavy weapons. iryna is already with us, mrs. iryna.

the most important thing for us is to speed up the provision of weapons, especially within the framework of the tank coalition, have you heard us because we need it not in two or three months, but already now ? and i agree with this message and want to say that this year in munich the three largest delegations are the american, german and ukrainian and the ukrainian delegation is working as a single fist, all of us abroad represent one team, the ukrainian team, and repeat the same position, weapons are needed today , we have no chance to delay this , unfortunately, it works for russia every day, russia is destroying critical infrastructure civilian settlements of ukraine are killing ukrainians modern weapons are needed in larger quantities even today and this is very important, but there really seems to be a communication breakdown, what worries our partners is that they are afraid of the collapse of russia, they

are afraid of russia as a nuclear power and there is such the feeling that they are providing ukraine with weapons in such portions once again to not cause another escalation is the first thing and the second thing is that they are all afraid of the conflict between russia and nato, and in this matter, it is necessary to clarify once again that today the ukrainians essentially protect nato countries so that the war does not come to their territory, so give us the opportunity to simply knock out the occupier from our land, for this we need weapons we cannot just be a human shield, it is very, very important that a few details that are important at this conference are discussions that there should be an international tribunal over the putin regime, it is obvious that not only the war criminals who fired directly, but the key criminals - it is putin - it is his gangs that gave these teams made these decisions

and they must suffer punishment and the third is a sanction, it is obvious that the putin regime is gradually recovering from sanctions and is looking for new sales markets, and therefore it is essential that the sanctions be strengthened and not just there we are outraged that there is no such thing in the 10th package, for example, rosatom is very worried that russia is now replacing european markets with third countries, india and china, and it is obvious that at all meetings with our partners we talk about the seriousness of the sanction and the need for a joint dialogue with third countries in order to they also joined the sanctions against russia, tell me, how do you generally perceive this american-chinese confrontation, which also became an important part of this munich conference, but i don't know, again, something related

unfortunately, the connection is worse than with the zoryanyi radchenko front. but i think that we will still find time and opportunity to contact her, we have five more, and the story is true when it comes to the fact that the minister of foreign affairs in china, former and now responsible for diplomacy, the politbrodian party specially came to munich to blame the united states, it doesn't happen so often , that is, it is clear that the main topic that all observers are talking about now is that he specifically said that about some peace proposals of china to end the war, that the cat of custard damn will make peace proposals public, but to be honest, i can imagine the price of the proposal to give us the territory, so the russian federations will generally pretend that there is nothing , but they will demand the neutrality of ukraine , so that the nato bloc takes into account russia's fears. oh

, and iryna. well, you're already here, please tell me, did you teach all this chinese talk about china's peace plan, what do you think about it at all, because i have the impression that it will be a fake plan, ah, it's obvious that uh, on everyone , i think the whole world is worried, uh, about the escalation between america and china and i think that everyone is interested, of course, in the normalization of relations, very often it is also obvious that china is interested in the weakening of russia , the weakening of the west, and this is his game, and here it is very important that ukraine works very actively with our partners , including on the reform of the security council of other international organizations and through which it is possible to influence third countries, and for me it is important that it is possible, for the first time at the conference such a hint was sounded by

french president macron about the need to reform the un security council well, of course, my friends are interesting observation that the leaders of the world are now trying to say that well, showing themselves, which looks a bit strange too. when they say that they didn't believe that wagner was part of putin's army, they were trying to trust putin. trust, they still drew conclusions and today they did not repeat these mistakes and were not afraid of the collapse of russia there or chaos in russia, when the main problem is that russia is creating chaos in this world today , it is creating security chaos in europe. is

the future, in general, the questions of this munich conference were, you know, it was a conference without russians, for the first time they did not invite a russian delegation. and the perspective was what the world should be like after the victory and without russia , well, i mean not russia geographically, but russia from the point of view of its absence in international organizations and in civilized society, as well as mrs. iryna in relation to this statement of the foreign affairs council of our city in the new president of the czech republic. he said that when you support us, do not prepare us for the worst. what do you think of this situation in general? why did such statements appear at all from the czech republic? it was really a very unexpected statement . it was made at a traditional ukrainian lunch held on the sidelines of the munich conference

. many of our partners may be wrong there. yes, what is it called, but between the lines, they did not run away because they are afraid of the disintegration of russia, there is chaos in russia and ukraine , this should be taken into account. perhaps the president of the czech republic expressed it, you know, more sharply than what we heard. somewhere between the lines, of course, this is worrying and it is very important that the ukrainian minister of foreign affairs and our partners who were present at this luncheon, namely the prime ministers of estonia , finland and sweden, very clearly emphasized that there should be no other scenario, russia should pay the highest price for its aggression and the war, well, it is obvious that there cannot be any concessions regarding the territorial integrity of the sovereignty of ukraine. to what extent, in principle

, can it be assumed that this munich will become this way? i would say that it is a clear indicator that foreign policy has changed and there will no longer be this attempts to find an understanding with putin no, we are clearly aware that, of course, foreign policy is generally changeable, and you, as professionals who follow the munich security conference from year to year and other important international events , know that, for example, two years ago, a year ago, the key topic was military the state of affairs today is already pushed aside by other world problems today ukraine occupies a key place as we must realize that the world really faces a lot of problems every day for us it is very important for us to focus on us

of the world so that we take advantage of it correctly. from the point of view of obtaining weapons, approaching the end of integration, it is very serious work that must be started now, and not in some myths, but serious work regarding the future reconstruction of ukraine, but of course we should look for opportunities come out with minimal losses from this war. and everything depends on ukraine, they, our partners, say that issues such as territorial integrity, we will first of all take into account your position. it is obvious to us that we aspire to fully restore our territorial integrity and sovereignty, but at the same time protect the lives of ukrainian soldiers, and this is impossible without a serious strengthening of ukraine's armed forces, for example, at the conference there in the fields , the topic of airplanes was often heard and our partners say

, well, you understand that first of all - and it takes a year to train a pilot on a modern nato-type aircraft. well, let 's start training our pilots right now . we'll talk about this later . from the equipment of different countries, nothing, nothing. we are sure that our military will master all this. let's quickly help us switch to nato -style equipment and weapons. the main thing is that we do not waste time and lives of our volyns. thank you. thank you very much. deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine we were in touch , now there will be a short break. after that , vitaly parnikovy and i will return, so don't switch, join the community with a ukrainian view of the world, become

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in fact that it is not for us news we saw that they didn't fulfill it, they say that ukraine was not going to fulfill the minsk agreements and then says, you see, merkel deceived me, she promised, in fact, she did it so that they would prepare for war and now suddenly what it turns out that russia also did not want this confession to change something for the international community . this is an important topic, by the way, because we don't even realize what happened all the time. when the events in the donbas began, it was in the donbas that vladimir putin had a clear idea that he could solve these problems with the participation of e-e groups of saboteurs, which will of course be supported by russian troops, but indirectly

by small groups of e-e saboteurs, there was not even a dnr of the lnr when strilkov came to slovyansk and announced about this people's mayor ponomaryev, everyone is already talking about it they forgot that the reason was that there is no ukrainian army, that it is demoralized, and the main thing is that it is far away because these brigades in the east, which were created during the reign of viktor yushchenko, were destroyed by viktor yanukovych deliberately and transferred to the west where of course, it was the main danger, and in principle, all this happened in the beginning. and, by and large, it was the right plan , because the ukrainian army really did not have the opportunity to redeploy quickly, and it could be faced with the fact that the ukrainian army came and there already donetsk luhansk odesa kharkiv people's republic power structures of the people's e-e militia and what should be fought with all this when

they have already raised the flag and their pseudo-states, but putin did not expect that there would also be ukrainians on this side volunteer battalions were to be created, which by and large paralyze the possibilities of deploying the energy of these essentially paramilitary and sabotage holes, and while they were fighting these volunteer battalions, the ukrainian army stepped up, and all these forces were unable to fight against the ukrainian army, that is why we in a fairly short period of time, they made it possible for you to oust the enemy from three-fourths of the occupied territory, also occupied by ragtags, and then putin decided that even without the participation of regular russian troops, he would not

will be able to hold this territory, but part of the territory was needed as a bridgehead for a further attack in the east, because in addition to the bridgehead for an attack in the south, it is a base for an attack in the east, and then when they unite, such a corridor emerges or from which you can then go further to belarus, then not belarus only had the idea that it was possible to attack kyiv from the territory of belarus in the 20th year, then it did not exist then it appeared later and in this situation it was possible to defend only these positions, which means they are the first to introduce regular troops novo azov became a moment, you remember it was from the sea and it turns out that it was precisely with the regular russian troops that you were studying . it is necessary to stop the conflict and here they are macron olan pulling putin from the beginning to the norman format because in order to re-inaugurate poroshenko

they create such a mechanism and then within the framework of this norman format it already occurs when the battles near debaltsevo are going on, they are terrible, terrible. and then there is this strange agreement in which everyone pursues his goals, the west freezes the conflict, ukraine develops such mechanisms that , in principle, did not give russia the opportunity to maintain control over these territories, because these agreements clearly state that the withdrawal of foreign troops and any elections under the ukrainian control of the control of the central election commission, a separate separate special status is temporary within the framework of ukrainian

legislation and there are certain moments of such autonomies, of which the most, uh, more dangerous is the creation in each of these districts. there is no dpr, lpr, putin did not even think of what the serbs thought of when they proposed an association of serbian policemen in kosovo to me, that is, unification of districts from us before that came up with the idea that every such district should have its own type of people's militia, it is dangerous to agree with the prosecutor. in this way, but in any case , the economic life of these districts depends on kyiv, and everyone perfectly understands that if the agreements are fulfilled, sooner or later they just or otherwise, with any statuses there, they are controlled by ukraine, which putin does not like. but he has his own goal in these agreements, and then the game with the clauses of his own area began. he wants to use these agreements to destabilize

the situation in ukraine, not that we will fulfill them. the step-by-step path to their implementation of the political destabilization of the situation. and where stabilization creates opportunities for him, which he has always talked about since the 15th year. it seems to me that it is not the accession of the dpr of the lpr to ukraine, but the accession of ukraine to the dpr and the lpr and all our politicians and experts all tell me what a delusion. and how can such a large territory be annexed to a small one? well, now it's clear like that. well, that's why they certainly didn't intend to implement them, because they knew very well that if they went according to the points of their implementation, it would deprive them of control. well , if they know that they are holding on the force so that they cannot even trust the local elite who betrayed ukraine because they

are replacing this local elite with motorolas and zacharchenkas and poshylins of all kinds of abomination . i want to ask him, but it's interesting. why didn't you create a second ukraine if you had a part of the territory of ukraine under your control ? and you consider yanukovych a legitimate president. there is a part of the territory of ukraine that is not controlled by the nazi authorities. well, let the president and prime minister come there. the head of the security service of ukraine, the minister of internal affairs, the head of the national bank , the prosecutor general, the korean scenario, and these are all people whom you consider to be legitimate , no nazi parliamentarians to push him and they didn't do it, so it wasn't theirs the goal, of course, was not their goal, but why is this promotion only medvedchuk and now we hear it from the arrestee, for example oh, i am not ready to comment on bloggers, oh god

, he is an adviser to the head of which he was simply an office adviser well, it is already very strange that all this is arranged no, listen, believe me , it doesn’t matter what people who are not involved say, yes, such rhetoric does not harm the audience because russia is catching on to the blogger audience, maybe it harms some people who are used to living by these narratives but this has nothing to do with real life, you understand, well, there are some people who live in such a world, there are them among ukrainians, a huge number among liberal russians and russian women well, because this is the only available language in which they say that not everything is bad what do you think and with you too and it’s nice, you know, such a balm for wounds oh oh and you know it’s all the journalism of balzac’s age oh, how exactly did you write p

vitaly, that’s why i’m here, but medvedchuk is everything else this is important because it really raises the question and what does he need this time, i think that it the way to the creation of several regimes of several regimes on the territory of ukraine of influence, that is, they have an eternal simple idea, the first regime is the territories of accession to the russian federation , and if you name these, it is simply crimea and the corridor to crimea, that is what they have now annexed, like , they have annexed not zaporizhia kherson oblast and donetsk luhansk oblast and a corridor to crimea because if you consider that they need crimea as a bridgehead for ukraine and for the mainland to reach the black sea, then

a corridor to crimea is needed. the crimean place is not the same ensures the vital activity of the bridgehead, i.e. the corridor to the bridgehead, the second can be a regime that they no longer annex the occupied, that they are going to buy, they will not, but create a second ukraine there, a good ukrainian people's democratic republic, headed by someone who is not medvedchuk, end of medvedchuk, and there will be a dynasty, first medvedchuk, then his wife, mother, what is her name, oksana marchenko, the first, and then someone means these , er, and then their son, now they will adopt him, and he will mean them then this er, to the princes of the second country and that’s how it will be like a copper regime honey mederzhim such a honey ambulance it will be easier for us

to win back this territory then what do you i tell you as you want from the territory that is already temporarily occupied about this has absolutely nothing to do with reality, you just ask how they see it, you have to tell them how they see it, what does this pe-corridor mean - this is the first zone, the second zone, the zone, the zone of kim jong-ho, then the zone of the nazi regime, and then the zone of polish occupation, never this it will be, i’m not saying that it will be. well, people just sit with them for meetings, then the money. you understand that viktor medvedchuk can now tell vladimir putin that he can’t . we are creating the government of the second ukraine and the parliament of the second ukraine and the national bank of the second ukraine. a hryvnia means uah 500. there will be putin for uah 200. oh my god, medvedev. and there should be