[000:00:00;00] maybe they want to speed up the supply of tanks , armored vehicles, anti-aircraft and defense equipment because they understand that if the russians sneak up, they will launch an air attack. to put these planes on the wing and give the enemy 10 direct aerial combat, but we can destroy these enemy planes thanks to our means of anti-air defense. it seems to me that these are quite reasonable actions the leadership of our partners, well, the ministry of defense of our partners. well, come on, we want these planes, but once again they planted them themselves, they brought them to polytech, they flew to polytech, it won’t be like that. how they brought them today and they will be able to fly into battle earlier than march 20 of this year. and before that

i think that the russians will already try an air attack, that's why we had to do it every time . in that year, in the summer of that year, we already had trained pilots in our arsenal, but this is a separate issue for today right now in these planes are simply not needed by the seafarers for such words, they may not be popular, but we really need training pilots that when they will come to us, as reznik says, in two or three months, so that the pilots will be able to fly and not heard, they have only started training, this is important , that is why he, unfortunately whether we like them or not, but they are like that. thank you, mr. oleksiy. oleksiy hetman, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war and a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, was with us. well, now let's talk a little about february 20, 2014 , about the events in crimea. like in ukraine polite people appeared on ukrainian soil, little green men, people without identification marks, how did the occupation of eskanderbarii begin with us, the head of the crimean tatar

resource center, a member of the mechlis of the crimean tatar people, mr. skender , good morning to you, glory to the heroes glory to the heroes , pskander how does it look today, february 20, in crimea, what is being introduced there dances, concerts are arranged well, as far as i have information , today they are more preparing for the speech of putin, which is scheduled for february 21, and they are also preparing for the holding of such events dedicated to the 105th anniversary of the red army means that it is very important for them and they try to do it all because it is, well, let's say a sacred act of sacred action - this is very important for them

, the red army days, the victorious red army and another reason. to be honest, this is what they are demonstrating now in my opinion, ah, this is my subjective opinion, ah, and now, russia has announced that they will come to hold training with nuclear weapons. in my opinion, something will be said about putin's speech that they are ending the heat because russia needs russia, and let's say so, let's take a breather and , on the other hand, they will demonstrate that if there are attacks from the defense villages of ukraine on the territory that russia already considers to be russian, then it will be an attack on the russian federation that is, i think it has something to do with it, as far as our compatriots are concerned, we remember what exactly well

, first of all, today is the memorial day of the heavenly hundred, and indeed these events are copies of were taking place in kyiv, and i remember that we once upon a time, they held er. such events are public events aimed at the future of ukraine. i sat down so officially in ukraine, the beginning of the occupation and the beginning of the war is considered to be the beginning of the occupation and the beginning of the war. i would say yes, but the occupation of the crimea was on february 20 , and the little green men began to appear later, well, i want to remind you that on february 23, when we held big, big

there was no such rally for everyone in this field little green men a-a but in sevastopol when they were held near the prison where he was tortured a-a the president is cool and the first cool one is not four budget members e there we already saw that poplars start such pro-russian active actions well and a-and then already 26 february when we already understood that pro-russian forces are trying to do something in crimea and are trying to get the verkhovna rada of the autonomous resources of crimea to adopt a decision in support of the russian federation, we initiated a rally on february 26 near a-a building

of the verkhovna rada of the autonomous republic of crimea, pro-russian representatives and pro-ukrainian and pro-russian activists gathered there, and we believed that in this way they gave me a meeting of the verkhovna rada and made a criminal decision, but we believed that this was our victory and we they started to disperse and at night when they found out in the morning the little green men appeared and seized the building of the verkhovna rada of the autonomous country, but today those people who were waiting for russia in crimea are happy they are happy that they are being mobilized to fight and you dying is different, people are different, and indeed, i constantly say that in crimea now , the structure of the population, er, and well, consists of

three such components, the first is pro-ukrainian, and the activists are representatives of the kraskotar people. they really are constantly and all the time, all the occupations supported and support ukraine and are waiting for ukraine, and this is the second component - these are the crimean, let's say, collaborators who supported the russian federation, and now there are various people among them, there are those who also support the sfo, that is, the war against ukraine, who are trying give there is information about what is needed to end this whole war as soon as possible and capture all of ukraine, but let's say this : when they issue the mobilization, you said about mobilization , and when a military serviceman is issued

, now, a one-time e- a one-time payment, you can immediately see who is from crimea, and who is from russia , that is , who is from crimea. well, i don't know how they work with them, they are here and they say that they are going there to fight in ukraine, that they have some missions there and others , that is, there are also such things, and at the same time , they are actively conducting such information and propaganda work and , unfortunately, in crimea, what are the people and who supports it? here the second component of the collaborators and the third component of the russian citizens who came to crimea illegally, they are sure that

the crimea will be protected and the armed forces of ukraine will be able to liberate the crimea, but on the other hand we see for example, i reminded about verkhovna rada building of the autonomous republic of crimea, now there are trenches all around the perimeter and this building is completely closed with a net, that is, i think they are afraid of what could be . they can also liberate the supreme building of the verkhovna rada from the autonomous church, the current situation with the mobilization of people in crimea. and is it true that there are many crimean tatars among those subject to forced

mobilization ? stopped where they publicly declared the leadership of the russian federation that they had stopped, but de jure they did not cancel the normative acts on mobilization . for example, we know that there is such a list, for example, a list of crimean-qatar nationalities who evade the service of the armed forces of the russian federation and who are subject to searches , and indeed they go from house to house and look for those

well, there really are crimean tatars, who were populous, and were . i would say yes, which nasin tatars were mobilized and put 200, and that is why we conduct an active information campaign. we warn all our compatriots and provide information on how to evade service in the armed forces of the russian federation. or, if you find yourself, what should be resolved with us so that we help a-a to go to the side of ukraine and not fight against ukraine, and on the other hand we we try in the information plan, we constantly record and collect information about those who support mobilization, that is, participate in mobilization commissions at the local and non-skolika level, those who distribute

summonses, this is also the teacher of this school director , this is also the deputies of local reactions and the entrepreneur who helps and we we publish information about these people on our social networks and we also provide this information. we are planning a meeting with the prosecutor's office of ukraine and will provide a list of these people so that criminal cases were opened to the feet. i at least have some figures of how many people are being mobilized from crimea, they are former ukrainian citizens, how is this possible? well , we cannot give full information about the numbers about the statistics, because they are hiding this information, but the preliminary data is from september

in august 2022, they issued e-e prepared 60,000 summons. and they had according to the plan and more than 20,000 e-e to mobilize, and they reported that they did this last year, that is, in november , in november and in december of last year and they carried out, and in their plans, two and a half thousand people were mobilized for a fixed term, and in the autumn they will be drafted, uh, well , let's say, take the russian army to lava. up to 36 or 37 years old, and for that , well, hmm, we need young young people, and that's why, from our side, again , well, we inform you that you need to hide and you need

to, or, well, who can leave in order not to end up in the ranks of the armed forces of the russian federation, but the very eyes of the russians who invaded since when did they buy crimea because they felt bad there after viktoriya nulan said that ukraine could strike at crimea or if there are fewer of them or if they are somehow trying and let's say who is the information or about victoria nulan's speech and many people in crimea do not know, and we need to inform more about this, and because it is in their mass media, i have to pay attention - first of all, at the local level , they are more gassing these people who participate in the so-called they give their name to the streets

and in simferopol, in other cities, let’s say to those crimeans who went for and were liquidated, i will say liquidated ukrainian between the armed forces, and they also provided a street in simferopol named after putin, that is, in terms of information, so far they are well, they give confidence to these a-ah russian citizens who came to live in the crimea legally. thank you very much scandabarov, the head of the crimean tatar resource center and members of the crimean tatar people's council were with us. thank you for this conversation, we remember that it was on this day that the occupation process actually began in crimea, where russia had a huge contingent thanks to, among other things, the kharkiv agreement that continued and allowed them to keep their huge contingents in crimea, in particular at the base in

sevastopol. crimeans should serve only in crimea, for example, as a military unit and in the ministry of internal affairs as well. by the way, recalling the maidan on the 20th , another one of my memories is already uh when they were already sprinkled uh, i remember everyone was scared of what would happen this tiger and they came, they just happened to be on the maidan, the tiger. it was such a special unit of the so-and-so berkut regiment. well, like the berkut of the ministry of internal affairs and from the crimea, they were there, they were considered elite and they said that the crimeans would come and they would tear all the maidan citizens on the maidan. well, i just see afterwards how they were shaking, they were terribly frightened. well, there were already gunfights, they killed a couple of people, they were also shot , it seems that as far as i remember , everything was already like that in such a phase, they were so terribly frightened, but what is interesting most of them

returned to the crimea already after february 20, and most of them then swore allegiance to russia and they are probably taking part in this war, maybe many of them have already died in this war fighting for russia. but not all the commanders seem to be swans. if i am not mistaken, and part of that regiment still left the crimea, they swore to ukraine . they tried to be reformed and maybe . well, they became... and died but for ukraine they may have fought against each other, but now we will talk about belarus and what is happening with lukashenka and what is happening with belarus pavlo latushko , deputy chairman of the united transitional cabinet of belarus and the head of the people's

anti-crisis administration with us mr. pavly, we welcome you to our broadcast, i congratulate you, but first of all, this visit was actually to belarus, how should we evaluate it , why did he suddenly go there to see lukashenka, and what could the minister talk about and agree on restaurant sources of hungary under belarus, as it were, is trying to show again its independent policy, the policy of hungary, er, in relation to both belarus and russia, and the wars that russia started with the support of lukashenko in relation to ukraine. i think that we see it perfectly with you , by the way of the european union, who visited belarus in the run-up to the election

of mr. orban , that is, hungary, just a few weeks before his self-felt lukashenko for a word, i remember that it was hungary that was the first city to dream of sanctions from lukashenka, when he gave a place for the people of minsk, it was agreed, therefore, there is nothing special here , the fact is that this actually goes beyond the agreed position of the european union, because the european union has completely limited contacts with lukashenko and his close leaders, and this violates the general line of the european union , well, by the way, the only ambassador lukashenko, who handed over letters of formality after the falsified elections, is right here the ambassador that the president handed over to hungary does not have credentials, that is, they constantly violate the general approach of the european union. i think the main topic that was discussed is the question of lobbying interests in business and the business of belarus for europe, it is possible to impose sanctions

on the use of hungary's veto right. the same topic was about wars, and we heard that belarus could supposedly become the platform for minsk 3 uh negotiations, well, first of all , as far as we understand, ukraine does not want minsk 3 at the moment for that simple for the reason that ukraine wants to return its legal territories belonging to the ukrainian people and illegally occupied by the russian federation, secondly, can there be minsk 3 on the territory of the country, which is headed by a non-legislative president, who is actually an aggressor from the point of view of international law and it broke the entire bilateral agreement with ukraine, uh , that's how i would probably value the visit of the polish president. they also went there, turned to lukashenko and said that in the event that belarus still

dares to take part directly in the hostilities actions, this will be the end for lukashenka himself, why, in principle, was this another warning to lukashenka addressed to the president of poland, and how did lukashenka react in the end, and yours is also your comment. i think that this is a very important political message because we see that lukashenko gave support to russia in the war against ukraine, he supports this through the supply of a sufficiently large volume of weapons, even of soviet production, he produces new weapons, he actually rebuilds the industrial complex on militarization a-a lukashenko constantly conducts exercises for both the armed forces in belarus and exercises for the russian mobs a-a it is actually creating a threat, permanent threats are possible in the event of an offensive from the north, it can be relatively larger or smaller now, we do not see a sufficiently large one threats but today i have a polish journalist from this morning also asking if it is still possible that lukashenko will make a decision and independently

send the armed forces of belarus to ukraine on the ground i answer this question, i am not inclined to think so. this is unrealistic because lukashenko is creating serious problems. well, i think it is important that the president of poland stated that he warned lukashenko about what would happen. очень своего рода an ultimatum, if you try to push yourself in the direction of ukraine , it will end for you, and that's about it, in fact . i paraphrased it wrongly , the president of poland can be paraphrased, but it's possible to understand it like that, and president duda is very clear said that lukashenko does not recognize himself as the president of poland, that the power of the first power and the power of belarus should not belong to him today, therefore, this is a very important principled position in poland , including in the context of the expansion of sanctions pressure, including in the context the closure of cargo crossing points , which actually show the regime that

poland and, by the way, lithuania are inclined to go for the most severe sanctions scenario. just close the economic arteries of the european union with lukashenko, for that you will put him on his knees, or at least so that he understands all the consequences of that action if he still decides to, er, they will follow, and the direction of ukraine, er, is that lukashenko went to talk to putin and what putin could say to him and what lukashenko could tell putin also speak up, you know. this is a very interesting story. lukashenko appeared on the screens with putin somewhere around 2 o'clock , probably european time . there were no personnel i will not comment on the press conference of communicators for the press, or press secretaries, but i do not know about the broadcast until the present moment

, and in such comments , information appeared that his plane flew to tver, he was in tver and returned from tver at night from saturday to sunday. at the same time , there was information about the closure of railway roads in the direction of tver, well , in the direction of the railway section of the russian federation, therefore, the experts made the assumption that putin went on his own train in the same direction that they marked there there are some dinner negotiations, or they are in one of the bunkers somewhere in the area of ​​tverey under the ground, maybe it is so important for them that the power under the ground is so important, but we do not know the exact information yet, but lukashenko is still with ekranov has already appeared hoping that suddenly he will, in principle, even yes

and already. people's militia to accept the sokon, where he directly says that we must be using the experience of the war in ukraine, be ready for the fact that every resident, people in the regions must be able to use weapons to protect their land, and we understand that this is the absence of communicators after the meeting with putin lukashenko shows that there was no love, so there is no love, there is a lack of it, but now the calculation is that putin is definitely forcing lukashenko to get more involved in the war, and lukashenko is trying to bargain for his participation and support, but to a lesser extent, putin, er, does not want to pay деньги больше lukashenko lukashenko wants money because the fall in gdp in january was already minus 5%. last year -5%, can you imagine the situation in the economy, he needs money, he doesn’t have money, so i think that was the main dispute, er, on this account , how much will putin pay for what

lukashenko did, but once again, lukashenko does not want to go in this war not because he loves ukraine not because he is for peace, how is he trying to tell someone because he loves his power more than anything and if they leave armed forces and parts of them will refuse to carry out the order, and even if they do not refuse, we consider a victim in belarus - this is a potential internal test and it may not be controlled, none of us knows how the situation will develop, but this is really a trigger situation for him . что беларуссия, what was the mood of russian society, would belarusians, for example, be ready to go on a mass mobilization to fight with ukraine, or are there tools to force people to do this, as it is happening in russia

it seems that this process takes place quite painlessly for putin's regime. this is a video where some uh, they are performing. there is a large group of belarusians who applaud what lukashenko is doing and, in principle, support russia's war against ukraine . i think and i would like it to happen exactly like this, that belarus will be able to resist if lukashenko sends armed forces to belarus, but we also have to realistically assess the situation, on the one hand, we imagine ourselves as an occupied territory when we have a foreign army and there are a lot of russian bases and the war serving on the other side, part of the armed forces definitely do not obey lukashenko, they are already under the command of moscow

, at least the air force air force if we are talking about the level of repression, then they are unprecedented in the history of europe for the last 50 years, this is the period of stalinism, the only thing that lukashenko has not done yet is not to take him to les and not to shoot, but the sentences of those belarusians who came out to support ukraine, and in fact us belarusians are terrifying, this is 22 20 years of prison 16 14 uh judges are ruling out such judges we handed over to the ukrainian government for sanctions already two months ago. i hope that ukraine will support us. the union that represses belarusians for supporting ukraine for opposing the war, we have 1,000 political prisoners of the order of five thousand , that is, society is now in such a demoralized, depressed state, but this does not mean that the internal process is not going on. people who are formed thanks to the closed channel

of communication into groups that, to a greater or lesser extent, i am convinced that we do not know , will be ready to show this resistance . lukashenko also understands this, and he also he is afraid because he knows real sociology, how the country treats him, how the country treats the war, and do belarusians want to die in the interests of moscow and lukashenko in ukraine, there is literally a minute left, and they are reporting that the cause of the death of the head of the ministry of foreign affairs, after all, is volodymyr makei there was a suicide by a person who also worked in the government at one time, eh, how can you interpret it? why would it be important to the news? well, you know such a leak, the information was practically the same day that it was possible to commit suicide. i rejected this version. i am still not convinced, of course, and we know that lukashenko conducted two

parallel studies of all possible ways after the death of makey, as if he receives double confirmation of what happened. i spoke about it publicly and adhere to the version that makey was in a very difficult situation in a stressful state because it was connected with his imminent resignation, she knew him and was convinced that then he and lukashenko talked. it was a visit. in promising positions, he flew on a military plane, they probably added to this information that he is no longer a nobody, and as a result, this is serious psychological stress. already outside the framework of such own