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[000:00:00;00] it may be happening to his head now that he can now tell his followers after he was given information about joe biden being in ukraine. they could not give it. putin lives in his own world and in his world he is the greatest, there is no doubt about it. well, simply you know, political greatness is such a concept. hmm, i wouldn't say delicate, but very changeable, and i would say that during the year of the russian-ukrainian war, putin leveled off very much from a person who forced many world leaders to reckon with him of a person who currently has mostly an informational domestic agenda, and in this agenda, well, there is practically no place for any adequate global
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initiatives. yes, russia, thanks to its size and territory, is not on the sidelines of world politics, but it is still far from the mainstream. forced to hear but to say that russia is a legislative political fashion or legislation in political trends , there is no such thing already, i think it will not be in the near future. and if the west can still manage itself in the first it is time to convince that the dismantling of russia is the only possible key to european security , then we will see a lot of different and interesting trends, mr. yevhen, here i am already being told information about it. the world is preparing to mark the anniversary of russia's brutal invasion of ukraine i am in kyiv today to meet with
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president zelenskyi and to reaffirm our unwavering commitment to democracy, sovereignty and the territorial integrity of ukraine, and of course he already said that he will announce support for ukraine, i also know what i want to ask you. and how would you answer the question that we asked the viewers who watch us on youtube, that is, what does biden's visit mean for ukraine, a near victory, a collapse putin's empire or your option biden's visit to ukraine i would say this is a demonstrative political gesture, and politics consists of gestures and actions, this is the act of a strong politician, a factor of a politician who knows ukraine well for ukrainians and with his act, let's go to the next one showed that he has a good understanding
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of what is happening in ukraine , therefore he demonstrated who he is in the modern world. biden's visit, i had the opportunity to talk to you and ask you questions that i think are interesting and to our viewers, thank you very much. it was yevhen magda, director of the institute of world politics. well, i will remind you that you have already heard the question on youtube, what does biden's visit mean? a close victory for ukraine 43% believe the collapse of putin's empire 50% believe well and their version 7% their version will be seen only after the program e-e will be broadcast on youtube and it will be published, so now we are watched by 3.5 thousand viewers this is in a separate channel created for our program, and of course also those viewers who are on the main channel of the espresso tv channel, so thank you all
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and 396 people voted join vote and we are moving on to a new topic and i am already in direct contact serhiy gerasimchuk deputy executive director of the ukrainian foreign policy council prizma, director of the program of regional e-e initiatives and neighborhood mr. serhiy i congratulate you glory to ukraine i congratulate mr. yuriy glory to the heroes look we have to talk about the fact that russia is preparing a coup there but i still want to hear your opinion your first impression , what did you think after you found out that biden is in kyiv? well, in fact, it seems to me that this indicates that we are coming to some logical finish of what is happening and the demonstration by the united states of support for ukraine indicates that the talks about some hypothetical plans behind ukraine's back have been completely leveled and now it is only
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about how we can defeat the russian federation and in what way it will be arranged . there was information that at first this information was voiced in ukraine that russia was preparing destabilization and a coup in moldova , then the president of moldova, sanda, spoke about it. last week, speaking she confirmed it to journalists. how serious do you think this is? is it just information about what is possible, or is it information about what will happen? well , actually, if you look at the situation in the republic of moldova, the time is quite difficult. sometimes i say that the political crisis has already become a systemic feature of the republic of moldova. that is, it is not quite a crisis anymore - it is
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a sign of normality. the country is very polarized . about half of the population still supports the pro-russian forces. parliamentary elections, the three political forces of ivan shur's party, the bloc of socialists and communists, and the party have santa pass, but the pass would no longer have a majority, and the majority could be formed by pro-russian forces, the unstable situation remains in the industry there, elections for a new resident must be held in the spring because iryna vlasovnytsia, the owner of autonomy , cannot run for a third time, and since the mood of the industry is quite pro-russian, it can be assumed that the new sharpener will also be pro-russian in spirit the industry is also very difficult eh, in some places it is separatist and the autonomy flirts with moscow in every possible way and even pretended to sign a separate contract with gazproms or gas prices for the industry were unchanged , unlike the republic of moldova, as for
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transnistria, there too eh- it is relatively restless, in fact, the republic of moldova not so long ago passed legislation that provides for criminal punishment for manifestations of separatism, and after that transnistrian leaders, in particular, the minister of the so-called minister of foreign affairs of transnistria refused to go to kishinev for negotiations because i believe that now his safety is not guaranteed there, he can simply be arrested as one of the leaders of the separatists. well, the socio-economic situation in the country is also difficult because moldova has not yet had time to discuss the moscow crisis and immediately entered into a crisis related to russia's war against ukraine, the prices for utility services, gas, and electricity have risen significantly, and ilan shur's party with its protesters is actively shaking up this
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political situation, and now you see it too shots from the rallies and on the weekend, these rallies were especially massive, there were never before such a number of people who came to the streets, and lanshur himself says that he does not pay for them , instead he provides the protesters with transport to kishinev and food. and what do you think, does he pay what did you say about what is such an uneasy situation? people somewhat hmm don't believe one, don't believe the other , can they now go out in such numbers on the streets of kisheneva, we actually think that there are those who were paid and those who left because of a generally bad social the economic situation, because in reality, remembering the butter pyramid, we must understand that if people have nothing to eat, they are considered one of their main priorities. and such people are easier to manipulate, which is actually what ivan shor is doing, who , among others, is wanted and is
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hiding, as it were, in israel. but nevertheless, it can manipulate public opinion and public sentiment in the republic of moldova itself, and look. if we talk about all these attempts by russia to somehow do something in moldova, we are talking only about political component or military, it is also not possible to talk about the military. well, in fact, we need to talk about many different components. we recently completed a project called the russian octopus in the black sea region, where, among other things , the case of moldova was considered. moldova is also very vulnerable from a political point of view due to the fact that there are many pro-russian proxies and from an economic point of view, for example , moldovan gas is more than 50% owned by gazprom, and despite the fact that there are disputes , they behave in essence between a subsidiary of gazprom and the forestry and gas industry regarding the price of gas for moldova. from the point of view of electricity supply, the main source of electricity is the moldovan address located on
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the territory of transnistria, which is owned by the russians and the military, the component also takes place because the republic of moldova itself has a rather weak army the army of the republic of moldova is even weaker in terms of technical equipment compared to the so-called army of transnistria, so that in transnistria there are also russian contingents and peacekeepers and it is illegal there from the point of view from the point of view of international law, the protection of ammunition warehouses in the sausage shop, actually the ammunition warehouses in the sausage shop are 20,000 tons of ammunition and ammunition, which also poses a threat. the only thing that can be said is that as of now, in transnistria itself, as far as i know, there are no preparations for some attacks, russia's main bet was that if the south of ukraine fell, if it was possible to cut a land corridor from
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certain areas of the luhansk and donetsk regions to transnistria, that's when it was rotation would be ensured when russian soldiers would be able to travel between the ukrainian and moldovan regions , the situation has become much more complicated at the moment, the situation is stable but not critical, that is, if we talk about ukraine , are there any threats, yes, that is, i don't know if you are talking about transnistria i think this means that the threats to ukraine are not critical or non-existent or , in part, related to transnistria and the situation in moldova. i think that in any case the presence of the russian military contingent in territories adjacent to ukraine are a threat, we may not talk about any attacks , we may not talk about the fact that
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a new front will open there in the transnistrian section of the ukrainian-moldovan border, but this does not protect us from provocations from that side, from the work of sabotage groups from the transnistrian side, from launching drones from the transnistrian side and all this must be taken into account, and the russians understand this, and they are actually trying to exploit it, as they did back in april, in order to distract the attention of the ukrainian armed forces from their main tasks in the south and east of ukraine, and is the official government now in their pockets ? they are talking about what they are. will never say that she will refuse a corresponding statement of this kind. this would be false regarding the return of transnistria, so now we have from fresh statements the statement of the new prime minister of the republic of moldova, darin rechan, who again
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spoke about demilitarization as necessary a prerequisite for the reintegration of transnistria, but there is nothing new and there is nothing leading to this; they actually talked about the demilitarization of transnistria, well, in 1999 at the port at the osce summit , in 2001 in istanbul at the osce summit, in 2003 in negotiations with the cossack e-e with the russian federation in in 2005, yushchenko's plan also included a clause on demilitarization, so moldova has been insisting on this for many years, but russia is not doing anything in this direction. there were some non-scandalous statements about the readiness to withdraw russian troops through the territory of ukraine, but it was already when ukraine was expecting an attack. that is, these were completely unrealistic plans, and actually now we have the same situation, and we must still agree that the russian troops must be withdrawn, the ammunition cannot be withdrawn, they will have to dispose on the spot and the prerequisites for this are created only after russia
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is defeated in ukraine, mr. serhii, the last question for you in this regard. and please tell me to what extent the west is ready to help and protect moldova in the event that it will be necessary, it is not a simple matter, in fact, on the one hand, we have nato's statement of readiness to support the republic of moldova, we have certain agreements between the gendarmerie of romania and the moldovan police regarding assistance in cases of riots that will threaten the constitutional order of the republic of moldova. but at the same time, we have the fact that after ukraine announced , moldova confirmed the threat of a coup , the reaction of klaus zaioganis, the closest friend , the new president of romania took quite a while , they appeared in just a few days, she was president yuganis was so optimistic that romania was with the people of moldova, but the very fact that this statement was delayed indicates that romania
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obviously also has to hold certain consultations with its allies, the nobility, since moldovans are a member of nato, it does not apply to it nato's security umbrella, and therefore in this context there may be some delays and a lack of proper coordination. thank you , mr. serhiy, for participating in today's program. thank you for your professional answers. this was serhiy gerasimchuk, deputy executive director of the ukrainian foreign policy council prizma director of the program of regional initiatives from the neighborhood well, i have another new statement, this is the statement of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi after the meeting with joe biden, in particular, our leader said that this visit is the most important in the history of ukrainian-american relations, and i understand it and you understand this, and the most important thing is that putin understands this well, that is why , unfortunately, today we have such massive
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anxiety because he is afraid. before introducing the next guest and the next topic, let me quickly say how many of us are watching on youtube 33 eu 33.5 300 people and they watch us on youtube only on the channel specially for the world at war program 17 votes er in answers to our questions which we put 1.7, thank you and join us, and the question is what does biden's visit mean for ukraine, about a victory, 44% believe the collapse of putin's empire, 49%. and your option is 7%, your option is obvious, as i always say, you will only be able to see when the program is broadcast and published in full on youtube well, join in, vote and comment, we need to know your opinion and i am ready to introduce the next guest veronika movchan, director of scientific work at the institute of economic research and political consultancy ms.
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veroniko thank you very much for joining the program congratulations glory to ukraine heroes congratulations, i congratulate you, ms. veronika , you and i will talk about the european integration aspirations of ukraine, but after i told you about the visit of joe baidun, he confused everything, but in the good sense of the word, today is about joe biden's visit how would you answer the question that we asked the viewers on youtube, what does this visit mean, a near victory , the collapse of putin's empire, or is your option probably a near victory, and now let's move on to ukraine's european integration aspirations and our relations with the european union , you know me personally, it seems that this is frankly telling you that earlier we talked a little more about our progress towards membership in the european union, recently we hear less about it, there are no statements, but they
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seem to be cursory statements talking about something we remember, uh, about this, they talk more about war, weapons, victory. well, here they just casually mention, am i wrong, or really, well, i guess we just live in very short periods of time, that's why this is the impression well, because in fact , only on february 3, there was a huge summit and its format that so many euros commissioners were in kyiv and what they talked about was actually about the accession to the eu, including the preparation for the accession only on february 2 the report of the european union on the assessment of the readiness of the ukrainian legislation was published well, in general, institutions for membership - this is a report that we will refer
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to in the coming years, because it is a winchmarkov . e survey - the publication of questionnaires, filling out questionnaires and the decision to grant candidate status, which was actually quite recent by european standards , only on june 23, 2022, the question of european integration is definitely not a question of accession forgotten both in ukrainian politics and in european politics, but it is a process that is quite technical, that is long , that will require effort, and therefore the fact that we do not hear any victorious reactions is normal , although in fact, in the past six months from the moment of granting candidate status, a lot has been done and
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implemented seven political criteria that are a prerequisite for the start of a more formal negotiation process and in the process of implementing the association agreement, which allows us to integrate into the european market in parallel with the accession and in parallel with the preparation of the accession saw last year with the decision on mts, this is joining the electrical networks of the european union with the formal completion of preparations and joining the common transit system - this is a large part of the customs procedures that we and the european union have now become the same in common, and this is the discussion of the decision there on roaming, which is now there are many other topics being prepared that are less common, but nevertheless they all testify to the fact that the process of preparing for
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admission is ongoing, but it will not be easy , so you are now for achievements, and here are the challenges and the problems that exist now because you have listed the achievements and thank god there are many challenges and problems we will fulfill. the problems are no less difficult to predict . all of them cannot be fulfilled, none of them, well, starting with those who are more ready to adopt legislation on the media and on minorities , nevertheless, there are comments, there are discussions in ukraine and, in fact, in the european union , so we are waiting very much for spring and
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formal pre-but formal assessment of implementation but we all also know very well about the problems with the law, for example, the new law on the selection of judges of the constitutional court, where the current recommendations of the venice commission are not fully implemented and we have to make amendments to this law it was announced that ukraine is ready to change the law, it was announced just the day before, but time has passed, so far no amendments have been made, and it remains a topic for observation, and well, for example , the venice commission. we are waiting for its decision regarding the law on de-oligarchization before we can rule something or it turns out that we don't really need to change anything and these are just seven small questions that are a prerequisite , we are talking about negotiations on 35 sections of
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them 33, but now there are estimated two a little more technical and only for four out of 33. we received a rating of 4 out of five, which is already a good level of training. it may not be perfect, but in principle it is enough to move forward in most positions. many everything needs to be done and not because we did very badly before that, but because we did not prepare for entry, these are completely different processes we focused earlier on the adoption of basic framework regulations that allowed us to integrate more deeply into the economy and trade more actively, but not being a member is now a new level challenges, a new level of tasks, a new level of problems, because we need to accept all this as our legislation, not only , well, formally, the cover was translated into legislation, and we know how to start living by
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the rules that were created for the european of the union, and we know very well that the rules , which are external, until they have been reformed, have not been adopted by ukrainian society , ukrainian business, will not work for us . therefore , this is a challenge. what we still need to do is there can we now talk again from your expert point of view about some date of the accession of ukraine to the possible accession of ukraine to the european union we still need to talk about dates simply because if this the infinity of that movement forward will most likely not be people. this is how i am arranged for me . here, the approximate date is 29-30 years. here, i think that
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if we become a member by this time, it will be good if much earlier, i will be very pleasantly surprised, that is, i will be happy if it will be faster, but i'm not sure if it's real , if it's longer, it's already becoming a little more problematic, it's getting longer than necessary, after all, i'm 29-30 years old . as we have already said with the legislation there is only agrarian legislation, this will be a separate topic for the completion of many reforms. we are there in the judiciary, another huge topic, i mentioned two of the 33 , but it is also necessary to understand that the european union
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must be ready for expansion by february 2022 , they were not ready at all they were not ready to speak in them, they were not ready to see how they will develop further , the balkans fell into this trap, which is standing on the threshold, which has the status of candidates, but not in fact , negotiations did not begin with it, although the countries are much smaller in terms of the number of people, and well, to a large extent, because of this, in fact , ukraine is not as problematic as it is now, but the european union was not ready for this, now they are revising their position, we hear it in their statements, we hear it in the discussions that are taking place capitals, we see this in the same conference in munich , which just ended, but to say that they have already understood how they will solve the issue
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of changing the balance there, for example, the political vote, how will even the very beginning of the expansion process go, because now for in order to open negotiations, consensus is needed, in order to start a cluster or a section of negotiations, to get consensus every time, and to close, consensus is needed, these are very difficult political decisions, we in ukraine actually tasted very great efforts to convince friends of ukraine in europe that the candidate status is not a promise in the future status of a candidate, one's own status as a candidate - this is an important step, it must be taken, it did not happen how given it was not given, so the next efforts would simply be in the process of preparing for
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there are already a lot of negotiations , the beginning of negotiations, how quickly europe will change, well, ukraine is now breaking all the patterns, in fact, in this case, it is positive. we are moving very quickly. and i thank you for what you told me. and what is happening now in this process of ours on our way to the european union? veronika, thank you very much for being on my program today. it was veronika movchan, director of scientific work at the institute of economic research and political consultations, in one word, had three different topics today. well, they all concern ukraine. the most important topic is the visit of the president of the united states of america , joe biden, to kyiv. joe boylen's latest statements. ukraine succeeded in the war against all odds. expectations and will win in the future another statement this is the largest land war in europe for three quarters of a century and have succeeded
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and succeeded against all expectations except your own and i am sure that you and in the future you will win, said the president of the united states of america and we have known about this for a very long time well, i am forced to conclude very briefly due to lack of time, i will remind you just now 2,800 people are watching us on youtube in the channel that was created specifically for our program we asked you a question does it mean byteshow's visit means biden's visit for ukraine is close to victory 45% collapse of putin's empire 48 your option 7%. and 1358 people voted, that's a lot . switch because in a moment my colleague serhii rudenko with those about his program verdekt and we will meet next monday i congratulate you this is freedom life on radio
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