tv [untitled] February 20, 2023 4:30pm-5:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] chemicals in different regions of the world, here our european partners will be more successful, mr. ivan, i would like to ask you your vision and your premonition regarding today's meeting of the ministers of foreign affairs of the council of ministers of the european union. as far as i understand, they continue this package of sanctions and there will be - to talk at the level of the ambassadors of the countries of the european union by the end of the week, i really hope that they like him and of course i am sorry that he will not be as ambitious as we would like from the side of ukraine and unfortunately will not include anything related to each and every potential of russia or at least the energy of the nuclear energy
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of the russian federation well, but there are some steps that will limit additional exports to the russian federation and will also close a certain part of the deals that remain in the sanctioned previous packages, they will close as for another topic. as far as i understand, it will be one of the main topics of this conversation, which is that you ministers will discuss ways that not only individually but on a bilateral level between by their countries and ukraine and together as much as they can speed up what you also mentioned and speed up the order for the production of additional ammunition for ukraine and we know that in this vein the estonian prime minister
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- again, the european peace fund in order to jointly purchase these munitions is quite likely to be one of the answers that are necessary for us to receive the munitions that we need for the defense of ukraine in general to the extent and as soon as possible. thank you mrs. ivanna ivanna klympush-sentsadze, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on ukraine's integration into the european union 4:31 p.m. america , god's blessing, as you know, they saw today, as part of joseph biden's visit to kyiv , several hundred mobilized and cadets from the russian federation were brought to the bomb shelter from the as
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, energoatom reports, and biden also declared that they will send ukraine 500 million dollars in military aid. and we already talked about this in part today. however, we will continue in our studios, because this is the main topic of the day. a new , extremely loud statement was made in an interview with president zelensky in divelt, if if china united with russia, there would be a world war, and the chinese are aware of us. the president emphasized that it is important for ukraine that china does not support russia in the war, while the president knows that at the moment this is the support of the aggressor country. it is impossible, instead, president zelenskyi said that he would like to see china as an ally of ukraine, this is a fragment of an interview of president zelenskyi in divelt however, i see an opportunity for china to make a pragmatic assessment of what is happening here, because if china
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united with russia, there would be a world war and i think that china is aware of this, so let me remind you that a meeting took place the day before between the united states secretary of state blinkin and the minister of foreign affairs of china one, and so now the visit of a high-ranking chinese official to russia continues, and in in ukraine, in particular, the visit of parliamentarians from israel continues in kyiv, and these are also important guests for us, because we want to deepen our relations with israel, in particular, and we really have big requests for this country regarding the iron dome and the huk air defense means and other necessary equipment that can israel provide us however, is it possible in the near future, we can ask yevgeny korniychuk, the extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to israel, mr. yevhen, greetings
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, good day, glory to ukraine, mr. embassy glad to see you on the air espresso glory to the heroes well, today the israeli parliamentary delegation is in kyiv, headed by the head of the international policy defense committee yulia edelshtein, i would like to ask you what might be on the agenda of this visit, well , look at us, cooperation between the government equal and between them in the parliamentary, since israel is a democratic state, there is a division of power and , accordingly, parliamentary cooperation is important for us for many reasons yulia
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delshtein himself was born in chernivtsi the second a member of the delegation from elkin was born in kharkiv. they are both regiments of supporters of ukraine. their statements are heard. we hear that they are turning to the government for more help , especially defense aid for ukraine, which is heard from israeli officials, including parliamentarians, for the first time, and it is important for we already had meetings today with the minister of defense, the various deputy ministers of foreign affairs, and the speaker of our parliament, that is, now i think that there will be another meeting in the president's office, they have not been confirmed yet, but i hope that by the end days how did they take place? that is, this is the second visit to which the visit was handed over by the minister of foreign affairs and the weapons that last week on thursday, which was also very busy
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, in principle, very productive in my opinion from israel, what does this mean or does it indicate that there are some specific negotiations are possible about military aid or not, because a package of 200 million dollars was announced, if i am not mistaken, aid in the field of health care is actually trade financing , that is, it is a package of financial assistance for soft credit that ukraine can choose any israeli goods, not only health care, we will choose what we want for this money, but i do not rule out that it will include some defense equipment, as well as certain shifts, i will be careful because well we had a lot of expectations, which, unfortunately, have not
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been implemented into real steps, but now the government is really making a gradual move to change the policy of providing ukraine with defense equipment , we emphasize that we are primarily interested in certain air defense equipment opportunities uh this these demands were heard and wishes from the president and the foreign affairs office of ukraine, eh, all this was carefully listened to by the israeli side, eh, i personally know that minimin natalia was the first to make a request to his security forces and the ministry of defense regarding the possibility of changing the policy in the field of armaments in relation to ukraine the previous government did not do this . the final decision has not yet been made, but we are getting closer to it. i want
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to believe that such a decision will be made first of all, the united states insists on this. the recent trip of the head of the secretary of state she prompted the united states to visit israel and the first and second visits. it seems to me that now we are one step away in principle from the decision to change the policy of providing ukraine with defense defense systems. it sounds very much the same. it is difficult to say what exactly these systems will be. and maybe we are cowards and will not know, but it is important for me that you see them on the field, that is, the israelis were against loud statements, i understand that they are more concerned about their security than anyone else, and russia did not completely withdraw from the series, this is true, although
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they withdrew most of the troops from all over ukraine and eh, their forces have weakened the strong group. whether it is good for israel or bad, it is also difficult to say, because they used to coordinate. now, in principle, they cooperate with turkey on the security of the industry in syria , that is, the holy mouth desert does not exist . iran poses a huge threat to us because it is ready to supply russia with ballistic missiles. well, what about the fact that they supply drones that are used by the russians to destroy our civilian objects and kill of our civilians. well, unfortunately, this is already a fait accompli. on the other hand, we understand that iran poses an existential threat to the state of israel. the state of israel was very well understood in your opinion . can this somehow speed up, so to speak , the coordination consultations between kyiv and tel aviv? or jerusalem?
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more precisely, in the security sphere, you know, i brought with me from kyiv a large piece of cachet with the inscription herald-2 and already handed it under the cameras to the israeli government and said that guys, if we do not cooperate, the same will happen to shoot at you, that is, your scythe - the existential threat that israel talks about, the threats are real for us and the president emphasizes that it costs us human lives every day. that is, it is not a theory, it is a practice , moreover, the ira does not just use these martyrs in ukraine, he is using ukrainian territory as a zone to test these weapons in order to modernize them, and this is definitely a threat, an idea that we talk about constantly.
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providing us with defense systems that israel, on the other hand, should not fool ourselves. israel is a small country and, well, in terms of territory, it is smaller than the kyiv region, and even if israel gave us what it has, it will not change our position on the security front completely, whether or not it will acting as a changer, as they say, but it really would have a significant impact on the long-term sphere, so we are in favor of starting this work, which we are doing sooner, in principle, it cannot be said that it has not been started, it is ongoing and our relevant professional services are working from the very beginning war, of course, we always want there to be more such cooperation among other practical things. what the minister emphasized is that we are finally getting a smart alert system. over the next three months, in test mode, at least in kyiv, we will have it, and it is very important that israel freely participation in the demining program and they
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produce certain machines and equipment for this , they are ready to provide us with this increase in the number of our soldiers who will undergo treatment in israel, that is, this is the further development and start of the program of national psychological assistance is the so-called post-traumatic stress disorder, which is being processed under the auspices of first lady elena zelenska, that is, all the issues we discussed on a practical level that are not directly related to defense , but are also very important, and i hope that the hands will be in the near future, hardly even if if israel agrees to hand over something to us , it will significantly change the situation on the front in ukraine , but for us, israel is usually a very powerful country with a strong army and seemed to have very high technologies. technology, respectively, but i know that you recently said about the hawk systems that
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they are not actually usable, and how did this situation develop in israel? well, because these polo systems were handed over to the americans in the 60s and were in service for quite a long time but they were decommissioned 10 years ago and they are simply not in physical form, we checked it together with our military only by israeli specialists, in fact they are simply unusable, they are now scrap metal, so they were replaced by new systems more modern that's all i'm talking about is that israel keeps american weapons that the israelis have the right to use only in the event of war, in the event of a direct attack, you understand, that is, they do not have enough ready-made weapons for them, i explain that for us the existential threat will not disappear anywhere in six months in nine months in a year that is, we are interested in
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long-term cooperation even if you cannot give us what we need to give immediately let's start cooperating in order to get this system in three months or 6 + 9 that is, it is all equally important to us, unfortunately, the threat will not go anywhere. i do not see, well, our political leadership does not see the possibility of a situation when the war has stopped , period, and we are protected, we will still have to build a strong army like the israeli one, and therefore we have to learn a lot from merger but again, let's not talk about the feeling that we are stupid, we have a wonderful armed forces from which we are ready to learn , including the israelis. believe me, what we learned to shoot down the iranian brodys are not sad , everything is done by the israelis today that's why we thank you, we remain to mean that the armed forces may be thank you, mr. ambassador yevhen korniychuk, the extraordinary ambassador of ukraine to the state of israel , for 15/5, we inform you about the most important things in
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the espresso studio, englishman sezonenko works , antina dances , please. experts of the ukrainian association of chinese studies to the center department of international relations of the kyiv-mohyla academy slava ukraine p . dmytro if you are with us, we congratulate you, i congratulate you. slava is also not necessary well, minister of foreign affairs affairs of china one and carried out a large raid on the european continent and now he wanted to check on the russian federation, we understand that china is beginning to express its position regarding russian aggression against ukraine , and here is a key story that may lie, so to speak, in your diplomatic suitcase they strained something on his part , of course p dmytro, your word was really strained, the statement was really strained, the rhetoric of the chinese side
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at the munich conference was quite tough and so professional and what will happen next what is in the suitcase for you and i think everything will happen everything will happen in the traditional chinese style on the surface there will be one rhetoric of the suitcase there will be another what will be on the surface on the surface there will be further calls for a ceasefire to hold peace talks er to find a formula for peace but the chinese will appeal for example, to the united nations as a good platform for such conversations, they will talk about the harsh humanitarian situation, that the war causes great damage to the whole world and the world should unite to overcome the negative the consequences of the war and so on, at the same time, for the chinese to deny the step of the war is, including, the sanctions imposed by the neighboring
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states on russian companies, on russian officials, on russian criminals, let's say it directly. so the chinese are not ready to support the americans in this and because of this in fact , the sanctions are slipping if china took a different position , this whole structure north of our country collapsed a long time ago and fell into the same severe crisis. this is a broadcast from moscow there is a european approach, a european vision of the situation, a rigidly consolidated european position , which will mean for the chinese that if they begin a deeper rapprochement with moscow than the one that exists now, this will lead to an aggravation of relations not only with the united
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states but with the european union, the european union, the european countries, except for hungary, of course, have very clearly demonstrated this consolidated position to the chinese, and for the chinese, this should be a signal that they will not succeed in the traditional chinese the policy is to try to separate relations with the united states from relations with europe. so the chinese will have to change something in their approach, that is, i think that they have not achieved much, which is that the supply of chinese weapons to the russian federation is one of the key methods, in particular, we learned about such a perspective from the reaction of the united states states, a number of high-ranking american officials warned beijing against such a step, well, this means that the matter can be extremely serious , we understand how much putin needs chinese
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weapons and, of course, i don't even want to get into the consequences of this, so to speak. but will our western european and american friends in beijing listen? i think they will. i think they clearly understood that this will be a trigger or that it will be like the europeans have drawn a red line that makes further cooperation impossible in the development, let's say, deepening cooperation by diversifying what the chinese always wanted, uh, won't help them even a little to develop relations with europe bypassing the usa . that is, it will all be confined to the situation in if the chinese want some kind of new level of relations with ukraine, they will be forced to take into account the position of the europeans and, uh, hmm, they will now be faced with this choice. now let's see what she will say to you while in muscovy, and then we will row when china moves, what decision
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will they make? will be adopted, well, there is an official position of the ministry of foreign affairs of china, which says that the usa has no right to lecture on the supply of weapons against the background of concerns that the prc may transfer lethal weapons to russia . that is, this is only a public statement. it works for of the domestic electorate, is it still sent to the white house specifically? first of all, it is important for the countries of the region, that is, china , to preserve its international image . let's say duplicity, ambiguous behavior, and so on. for them, we will not allow this violation of their authority, an attack on their image and such
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steps. they always react very harshly, and in principle, i think that this was the idea of american diplomacy . provoke china on tough statements. i think they succeeded. china went for it. and this will not add points to the chinese in the eyes of those countries that surround it and look at china with caution . yes, mr. dmytro, well, in any case, we will carefully monitor this situation. that indeed one's visit to the leading key shooters of the european union and his avoidance of public statements regarding the most important, in particular , the russian-ukrainian war, this case is a bit alarming, actually i would like beijing to clarify its position and somehow more clearly proposed
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certain things because it has already been a year since the full-scale invasion of the russian federation since the year of the full-scale war of high intensity, and china is only now understanding, just now , it is preparing to announce something, it is preparing to announce something, i assure you , nothing concrete will be announced again, there will just be accumulation all those messages that were broadcast to the chinese high-ranking official during the year in the public space, that is , about the ceasefire about the dialogue about taking into account security interests in russia about the new architecture of european security about the humanitarian crisis about the negative effects that spread from the world war because it must be stopped that is why china makes such superficial statements because if china makes any , it will propose some specific plan and it will not be accepted one hundred percent either in ukraine or in russia well, because he is not agreed yes. you see how the meeting takes place between the colyba and you and they went out and when he told you that we
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exchanged ideas, it means that i didn't get to what we just talked. that's right. that's this the peace plan, if it is concrete and will not be accepted, will be ignored in russia and ukraine, and in russia it will also be ignored because putin is on his agenda, he is implementing there, so to speak, his vision of foreign policy and somehow looking for points of contact with he is not ready for specific points of contact with the chinese. so, there will be abstraction again, if there were specifics and we ignored it or programmed about the russians, then it would again be a blow to the image of china, and of course the chinese are not needed, but with situation on the other hand prompts him to say something, and they will say, that is, the call is meant for example concessions to ukraine with its territories , which are currently temporarily occupied by the russian federation, or
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calls to western countries to stop helping ukraine militarily. let's be brave, open your eyes and really look into the eyes there er be brave and so on some such principles that do not commit to anything and will not even be clearly tied to any parties, it will always be a duality and blurred, and it can always be, it will be formulated in such a way that it can be interpreted in favor of one party and in favor of the other party, well, accordingly, mr. dmytro, we are talking , for example, about other additional platforms of cooperation, in particular with the same with the same taiwan is how we understand china's position towards taiwan and, on the other hand, we understand the position of the inhabitants of this island themselves, who are preparing for a possible chinese aggression directly, as if the forces are not comparable, but
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on the other hand, we also know that the history of taiwan is also a story about the united states, i think that this situation is a sign of russian aggression, and we also understand that the united states is not ready to deviate from its strategy of supporting taiwan. red lines, uh, and of course it was taiwan, that is, the chinese expected a concession from the americans on this issue, a demonstration of some flexibility, and so on . no flexibility, on the contrary, it was announced plans for new visits of new visits by american officials, which of course wants the chinese to take a tougher position on another important
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issue for the united states. well, the situation in taiwan itself is not quite simple and it is clear that there is a large part of the population that supports the course of rapprochement with china and not the confrontation, which the united states is behind. so, this is precisely what prompts china to somehow already determine its position regarding the military invasion of the russian federation full-scale, because it directly affects their economic condition, yes, indeed, the economy in china is now at the stage of exiting the colloid , it is showing good results . of the chinese is very important , including friendly relations, first of all, with the european union, which is an important trade partner
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for china, and therefore it is important for china to maintain constructive relations with the eu countries, it is possible that this was one of the missions of van's visit to the munich conference, and the dialogue took place, but as i understand it, the europeans clearly informed the chinese that all cooperation will be tied to the chinese position in relation to the war in ukraine, and so be it now the chinese are determining whether they are ready to exchange their long-term stable growth has always been an element of the legitimation of the existing management model in ukraine to exchange it for the support of the bankrupt e-e regime in moscow , they talked with lukashenka in order to somehow the territory of belarus, after all, and first of all, economic cooperation. well, the transportation of goods should be kept so directly, what
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exactly was lukashenko agreed on ? was it brought into the public space? serious contacts with belarus , the chinese did not have these leaders, that’s all , it’s still necessary to check who announced it. maybe if it was announced by the belarusian country, this does not mean that this will happen. to monitor in belarus there is a loosening of ties with the chinese thank you mr. dmytro for this extremely interesting meaningful conversation dmytro efremov expert of the ukrainian association of chinese studies associate professor of the department of international relations of the kyiv-mohyla academy of norms we inform you of the most important minister of foreign affairs of ukraine dmytro kuleba said that the presidents of the united states and ukrainians are satisfied with the visit and it can be called a victory and a clear signal for the
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kremlin . trusting and heartfelt, this visit is a victory for the ukrainian people and president zelenskyi, it was carried out against everything for the sake of the victory of ukraine and the entire free world , a clear signal to the swamps, no one is afraid of you , emphasized the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine , three polish diplomats note that the officer of the polish border service must leave belarus by evening on wednesday , two polish consuls probably left grodno, the polish government may also decide to expel belarusian diplomats from the territory of poland well, our hour is coming to an end, but it is not in omelnik literally in a few moments it will appear on our screens and it will be ready to announce the updated news release asks colleagues thank you for
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