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, we love each and every one of them and i want to show them to me the program of the ukrainian voice of america time and i am its host ostap yarysh's historic visit under the sounds of an air alert, this is how the american media write about the unexpected visit of joe biden to kyiv. this is the first trip of the us president to ukraine in the last 15 years and the first for joe biden after the start of the full-scale invasion of russia in kyiv biden spent about six hours. and he met with volodymyr zelenskyi and representatives of the ukrainian government and said that the americans and with them the whole world stands with ukraine. putin considered ukraine weak and the west divided. as you know, mr. president , i told you at the beginning that he expected
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that we let's not unite, he counted on the fact that nato would not be able to maintain unity and that we would not be able to unite others on the side of ukraine , he thought that he would be able to hold out longer than us, i am thinking that he thinks so now, god knows him what's on his mind, but i don't think he thinks so. putin just prayed and a year later the evidence is right here in this room. we stand here together . the visit of the president of the united states of america to ukraine is the most important visit in the entire history of ukrainian -american relations, but precisely in this period because this period is the most difficult period when our state is fighting for its freedom and freedom for all
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europeans and for all people of the free world during his visit, joe biden also announced the provision of a new arms package for ukraine worth almost half a billion dollars, among other things, it also included ammunition for himer missile launchers, launchers, more jewelry, reconnaissance radars and other equipment, while volodymyr zelenskyi added in a conversation with the american president that they also discussed and the possibility of deliveries of new long-range weapons, the unexpected trip of joe biden caused heated discussions among american lawmakers, democrats congratulated the president's decision, calling it an example of courage and support for ukraine, but supporters of former president trump sharply criticized biden for allegedly taking care of ukrainian borders more than his own. but how did kyiv itself react to the arrival of the american president? anna kostyachenko found out about such security measures here there was no time for a year. and how
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do you know about well, i live nearby. well, here , when did the secretary general of nato come to angeltsek? calm down but this morning they sent here through the maidan, well cool biden, well done, he supported us, well, finally positive , well, after all, we waited a year for this, i thought it would be sooner, but better late than never, so i'm satisfied, i didn't make it, i live nearby, very good, very you know that life is like that, god forbid that wyden wanted to work and live, and he did it for ukraine and for him , he made ukraine, they raised ukraine, and all
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because without it, i think so, if it wasn’t for bayda, or america, we wouldn’t have achieved today. very impressed well i am very pleasantly surprised. i hope that this will be the best for us , for us , for ukraine. america's support for a leader who is to some extent the hegemon of the west is important and not only in terms of course. the arrival of the physical interson of biden in the center of kyiv to ukraine is an indicator for the whole world that ukraine is not forgotten, the issue of ukraine is a priority and it must be resolved, victory is ours , we have no other option, no other perspective. my
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opinion is that i am the united states of america we will make every effort to help our ukraine in this war , they will help both materially and with weapons, and we will hope for our victory in ukraine. on friday, according to the american changes to kyiv, biden traveled 10 hours by train, and after his visit he immediately left for poland. he plans to spend the next two days. we will talk more about this with our european correspondent bohdan tsyupin, who these days works from warsaw and now i hope he can join our broadcast bohdan, i congratulate you, thank you for joining , and the visit of the american president in general is now called unprecedented by many. from a security point of view, tell us a little about how it was planned for which events pretended that we knew about it for the moment, the main event and the main result of those
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events was that a huge group of international journalists here in warsaw, and in particular i flew in from london, we were waiting of the american president joe biden here in warsaw, in the capital of poland. and he ended up in kyiv today. many journalists woke up with these shots of the american president in the ukrainian capital that you see on your screens. that was a surprise for journalists, in particular , even for me. american colleagues of many here here in warsaw clearly indicates that this part of the security measures was successful , the fact that your ringtone alerted moscow to at least a few hours actually before the event about the stay of the american leader in ukraine , and there are many questions about this, but on the one hand, it is about removing the threat
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of a sudden confrontation there, again , the issue of security, on the other hand , it is probably also about some minimum diplomatic rules, the rules for which actually now the civilized world is competing in your country to return to a world in which rules apply , not force . jake sullivan, who explained why, despite the security risks, joe biden still decided to fly to kyiv today, please, president biden understood that it was important to make this trip at a critical moment in which we found ourselves with the approach of the anniversary of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine and what he wanted to do in kyiv is to send a clear and unequivocal message about the constant american support for ukraine, a clear and unequivocal message about the unity of the west and the international community in support of ukraine and
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in resisting russian aggression, in addition it was important to have the opportunity to stand next to president zelenskyi in free kyiv, not just to tell, but to powerfully demonstrate to the world that ukraine is successfully resisting russian aggression and that russia is experiencing a strategic failure in ukraine. i wanted to personally visit kyiv and actually send this message of strong support on the eve of the anniversary of the full-scale invasion of bohdan and what exactly did joe biden and volodymyr zelenskyi talk about in kyiv, is there any information about it? excerpts from the speeches of the american president and the ukrainian president at the beginning and what we actually hear from the general public, from political observers and commentators and international journalists , and in particular here in warsaw, is about the enormous symbolism of this event, that is, for
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the first time in many, many years, the american president visited ukraine under such conditions, in order to actually do not only what ukraine needs to declare support not only by announcing some specific aid package, but also symbolic support that will be important even on the battlefield, he said today the ukrainian president, but this should also be a signal to russia that the world is not going to refuse help from ukraine's support for ostap, and i think now we can also listen to the comments of american experts with whom our colleagues spoke, how they assess the importance of this visit, and what they think about such a step of the american president. you can watch it now. my only hope is that the president would change his expression .
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an important visit and obviously a very difficult visit for any president president baidong as we all know is 70 years old and it would be a difficult trip even for a forty-year-old man but the problem of security and logistical support was overcome he recognized how important it was for the president of the united states to be in the capital in kyiv and demonstrate the unwavering support of the united states, so i hope that president zelensky was able to convince president budug of the need to provide ukraine with additional weapons systems, including possibly f16 or other aircraft provided by the united states a lot of help and ukraine needs more and it needs it the sooner the better we should be able to explain what putin is doing in ukraine can seriously undermine nato and with it american security which ensures economic stability and economic prosperity in europe which is important
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for economic prosperity america, we do not hear this clear message from home , along with the policy that would be the best to ensure these interests, and this means providing ukraine with all the necessary means to not just to stop moscow on the battlefield, but to push it out of ukraine. i was hoping to hear it in his speech, i will say exactly that. regarding his victory in poland tomorrow, i would like to see it, but actually about the speech and visas to poland, so that it looks like this to us that now the visas are this to kyiv slightly overshadowed biden's trip to warsaw. but nevertheless it is really important. what should be expected from it? actually, it was planned primarily as a trip of the american president to warsaw , at least officially publicly and on
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speeches are planned here in the polish capital tomorrow, in particular the speech of the american president in honor of the whole year that has already passed since the beginning of this bloody russian invasion of ukraine, and poland is obviously not by chance the place where president biden will deliver this speech tomorrow. poland is such a center, in fact, a conduit through which the largest part of western aid to ukraine passes through. poland once again let through millions of ukrainian refugees and gave shelter to many with them. therefore, it has a very it is of great importance, we may have surprises after today, we can hope for anything , but yesterday the prime minister of poland hinted that ukrainian president zelensky will also participate in these events, in what way we do not know yet, we will keep a close eye on it bohdana thank you for your work we will see each other on the air soon, i will remind you that there was
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a bogdan from warsaw in contact with us, and for the anniversary of the full-scale invasion of russia, we have prepared a series of interviews with american officials and legislators, among them are democratic senator through murphy he expects that 2023 will be the year when ukraine will win the war and hopes that the european allies will do more for this, the senator told voice of america in an exclusive interview about mistakes and achievements in resisting russian aggression and about the strategy for the coming year he was questioned by kateryna lisonova. why did they start providing military aid in ukraine only in may 2022? what conversations were held then behind closed doors regarding the aid that should be provided, what was the process of negotiations with us always the same discussion process we want to transfer only those weapons systems that are really necessary over time the ukrainians were able
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to cope with more complex weapons systems but there were some systems for which the ukrainians were not ready last year also some of our defense systems have sensitive materials and we simply cannot export them to other countries because these systems have confidential secret information in addition, we have some obligations to russia which in my opinion should be respected one of them is that the united states is not going to use its own troops to directly fight the russians and secondly we are not going to provide weapons that ukraine is going to use for attacks inside russia so we look at all of these factors when we decide what support to give to ukraine but even with of all these factors, we were able to provide ukraine with more military equipment than we sent to our other partners who were involved in active conflicts during the last decades
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ukrainiana military aid to ukraine evolved from jabelins mouth air defense that the united states is considering the option to provide everything needed at once and thus avoid a large number of deaths first of all the united states does not have everything needed at once it arrives at the ports ready for shipment we need time to get ready material for export sometimes we we actually produce equipment and send it, we also want to assure you that we do not expose ourselves to danger if we send javelin missile systems to ukraine, we have to make sure that there is enough left in the warehouses to protect the united states and our own military, then we have to teach the ukrainians how to use these weapons we can't just send the ukrainians patriot marquees if they don't know how to use them, so we need to spend time teaching ukraine how to use these complex systems we we can't just take the military of the united states and all our equipment in 1-2 days and hand it over to ukraine we have to
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make sure that we ourselves are protected it is my primary duty to protect the united states states of america, and secondly, we must make sure that these weapons will not just lie in warehouses when we send them to ukraine, we must make sure that the ukrainians know how to use them. in may, when they voted for the first package of military aid to ukraine, the congress also decided to vote for the lend law -liz for ukraine, why did they decide to do it and what role does langlis play now? i know that for some of my colleagues it was important to vote for it . we can provide ukraine with everything we consider necessary. i know that many legislators thought that this was an important bill, but we still provide ukraine with what it needs through the packages of appropriations for emergency defense needs that we regularly accept for ukraine, summing up this year. what do you
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think or everything was done right would you change anything in the decisions of the united states nato or other allies what could have been done differently i think the united states and the biden administration did almost everything it is possible, if i have any doubts, they relate to the incredibly slow process of putting pressure on some of our european allies to show up and provide a similar level of military support to the united states. it is simply amazing how much money american taxpayers have decided to invest in ukraine . these are ordinary americans, plumbers, teachers, who every week send part of their salary to ukraine, but unfortunately in europe, the process does not look the same, although it happens much closer to them, so i am grateful for support provided by many european countries, but the fact is that the taxpayers of the united states are now doing more . and i would like the help of european
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taxpayers to be kept on the same level as the united states, who before the possibility of preventing this situation, in fact, russia invaded ukraine in 2014 eight years before the current full-scale invasion, do you think there were things that should have been done differently, for example, you opposed sanctions on nord stream 2 that the republicans proposed? do you think that this was actually this is not true i was not against the sanctions on nord stream-2 the united states imposed sanctions and i always supported these sanctions the problem was that our partner germany decided to continue the construction of the pipeline despite the sanctions we imposed there were some people who wanted to impose sanctions against germany, our ally through nord stream-2, many of us believed that it was going badly, we are clearly in the position we are in today because europe made
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a long-term decision to rely on russian gas and russian oil, we told them again and again that this is a bad decision, that it will make them vulnerable, that they should not trust putin. unfortunately, europe has decided to remain dependent on russian oil products, and now they and the whole world are paying the price for it, but i will say that for the most important thing for ukraine is the unification of the united states and europe . if the united states imposed sanctions against europe through the nord stream-2, it would create a fundamental gap between the soviet union and germany, between the united states and europe. this would probably make our cooperation impossible. regarding other issues in ukraine so there were people who wanted to separate the united states from europe and they used the issue of the northern stream-2 as a mechanism to do this, that was their plan. those people who pushed the united states to introduce anti-european sanctions through the northern stream-2 did not care about ukraine they tried to separate the united states from europe, these are people who
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believe in america first slogans , they were trump's people who simply believed that the united states should not integrate at the end of the world and this was their mechanism to separate the united states from europe if we go back to the beginning of president biden's work in the white house one of the first people he met with was vladimir putin and only after that he met with president zelensky do you think he had an impact on the international arena, the fact that putin was one of the first with whom biden met, yes, the president has to deal with everyone , i am the one who supports the idea of ​​dialogue with enemies, and the idea that it is weakness to talk to people with whom you disagree, i consider it bad and dangerous policy i support the precedents of both republicans and democrats when they communicate with both our friends and our adversaries are there currently any restrictions on aid to ukraine or is there anything that the
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united states does not see fit to provide at this time of course there are sensitive technologies that we do not provide to ukraine that we provide to any of our allies. we have also undertaken not to provide weapons that will be used to carry out attacks on the territory of russia, so i have certain restrictions on what we can provide to ukraine, but over the last year we have found a way to allocate absolutely celebratory amounts of aid to ukraine . i think that often the conversation becomes stale about what we do not provide instead of thanking the american people for what they have already provided and i will tell you what you will lose the american people, if you tell them again and again that they do not do enough for ukraine because they do not feel it, they earn their money hard and are nevertheless happy to give part of their salary to the defense
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of ukraine, it is important to admit this and not say it to the american people again and again that they are not doing enough. nowadays, many countries are increasing their armaments to protect themselves from aggressive authoritarian states. what are your expectations for this year? i hope that this will be the year when ukraine wins the war. i do not think that it is unrealistic. i think that the russian army is weak and our sanctions will make it even weaker than the precedent warnings of the us administration . there were many skeptics in washington and in western europe that volo was misleading experts and politicians. churikova just a few hours after the first bombs began to fall on ukrainian soil and the first russian tanks crossed the border with russia and belarus. us president joe biden spoke at the white house. the bride check is a deliberate attack. vladimir putin planned this for months. moved more than 175,000 troops and military equipment to positions along the ukrainian
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border for weeks and weeks we warned that this would happen and now everything is unfolding basically as we predicted but the warned every week by the american president, it was far from obvious even to experts who have been studying the russian army and russian politics for years, even the authoritative institute for the study of war, whose reports are monitored daily in ukraine, was wrong in its forecasts, the reason was that we very carefully studied the russian deployment of forces around ukraine that began at the end of 2021, we looked at how they were located in the south-west of russia and in belarus, and we decided that this does not look like planning a competent invasion of the former american
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retired military lieutenant colonel oleksandr vidman, who was one of the main witnesses at the hearings on the impeachment of president donald trump due to his phone conversation with president volodymyr zelensky in 2019, says that it is not surprising that analysts were misled by the actions of russia, very few people understand russia sufficiently and even fewer people understand ukraine, i spent three years in moscow working with the russian military and observing how they operate, it was clear to me that not everything will work and that they will not be able to use all operational concepts that they could apply in ukraine, nationalism and the russian-ukrainian war believes that the problem of ignorance of russia and ukraine is very deep in the west and that western analysts bought into russian narratives about a great power, they did not
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study it very deeply, they believed in advised the russians that military reform had taken place, they did not use their own conclusions that russia is a mafia state, a corrupt state to understand what is happening in the army as if the army was somehow separated from according to russian society, the cause of the mistakes is the uncritical transfer to the west of the russian vision of ukraine as a divided, weak state that was supposed to collapse at the slightest shock. according to this narrative , there are russian-speaking people living in the east and south of ukraine who will welcome the arrival of the russians, and this, in his opinion, influenced us policy . regarding the provision of weapons to ukraine , vselensky asked for heavy weapons even before the invasion, but the western governments did not want to provide them because they were convinced that ukraine
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would be quickly defeated. the only weapon worth giving ukraine is a weapon that can be used by partisans in their recent analysis, experts of the institute for the study of war say that russia still manages to influence the supply of western weapons to ukraine, for example by talks about peace negotiations or threats or statements that russia is a much larger and more powerful state with a large according to experts, the kremlin managed to delay the supply of tanks to ukraine with a margin of safety, and they did not have time to arrive before the start of a new russian offensive in ukraine. taras kuzya believes that further the support of ukraine from the west will depend on how effectively ukraine will be able to resist moscow with the help of new
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weapons . increasing pressure on western governments with the arguments that all this supply of weapons has led to nothing, a stalemate has arisen, and therefore it is necessary to bring the parties to the negotiating table if ukraine agrees to the agreement from a weak position, it will only give russia the opportunity to recover and prepare for a new offensive , so that this does not happen, experts say, the measure should supply ukraine with all the necessary weapons as soon as possible. ukraine should be provided with all the resources necessary to liberate its territory and thereby convince putin that it is impossible for him to win this war and this will force him to sit down at the negotiating table, that he has lost the ability to achieve political goals by military methods, also in western
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capitals, they have to ensure that ukraine does not lose for ukraine to win and be able to ensure its security in the future by joining nato and the european union nataliya churykova tetyana vorozhko dmytro savchuk voice of america download the voice of america mobile application, the application allows you to automatically bypass blocking thanks to the built-in vpn service, read news, watch informational programs and videos, as well as listen to the podcasts of the voice of america service in ukrainian and that's it , we say goodbye, also join our

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