[000:00:00;00] they started to smell so good that something slippers well, my house is 600 m from here and all the way there, nothing could be seen and it was very difficult to leave the fire, nothing could be seen. that despite the numerous risks it pushes to be there where the trouble happened, this question can probably become the subject of research by psychologists and scientists , but then this sensor worked for anton viktor gleb and andrii after the first impact. my father jumped out of the apartment immediately after 15 seconds i was already in the middle of the kindergarten together with two policemen. my mother was standing by the fence on the other side and came out. my mother had already started handing the children over the fence. the frightened children had to be taken

as far as possible from the fire. andrii two girls and a boy were going home without themselves. many others needed help. medics , we ran to look for medics so that they would provide them with first aid, but since it was the first minutes of the tragedy , there were no free crew doctors, the guys began to examine the victims themselves , found a first-aid kit at home, some peroxide cotton wool to treat the children a little bit with a towel on the face of so-and-so two girls were taken away by their teacher and they knew that the boy and ruslan remained calm down help overcome the panic the boys had to try themselves and in the role of psychologists gleb tells how he tried to comfort a six-year-old boy he had cuts on his hands and i his i asked the guy, what are you going to tell your mother, you and your husband, you shouldn't do anything so that the mother panics, he says nothing, he says , well, the helicopter fell in the kindergarten, i say

well, you can't tell my mother, she will cry say that you came to visit your friends, went to visit, there was a cat and say that the cat scratched you, that mom was very nervous, nothing. here came his mom, he said so, mom laughed, smiled at us, thanked us , then when the rescue operation was in full swing near the kindergarten, there was enough to do and beyond the red tapes i saw a policeman pushing the fence to get in. he helped them scrape the fence a little . cookies were squeezed. the 10th graders started handing out to the children and mothers who were walking. they were standing near the fence . they were in a panic, they cried and dragged everyone away. cars on the lawns and freed up parking spaces for ambulances and a passage for the convoy to see us near the tenth school. people are carrying water, medicine and food, but there was not enough of them, they needed help, we took water from the women, it was

heavy and will bring the 10th school there they organized the medical staff, brought in alcohol wipes, and i see that there was one victim, the teacher of this kindergarten, a burn on her leg, i saw her very beautiful , there was some kind of panic attack, i went in with the blankets and covered myself, then i saw that the situation was bad. there was a lot of work, but there were workers hands what was missing was much more, there were those who just stood and watched, filmed on their phones, drank alcoholic beverages , smoked and filmed everything, children screamed and squealed here, chaos was created for many, i don’t know whether it was scary or indifferent, who would take the feat, the one with high marks in the diary, obedient to parents and teachers, well, he is studying at the lyceum. gleb is the same guy who calmed the children near

the kindergarten and pushed cars away so that the ambulance and the fire department could pass. he was the one who acted when others were just watching, and it just so happened that i was his taught the first four years in elementary school, i was his first teacher. our bread is not perfect and maybe it was the impetus that he was in the exact place when this tragedy happened and i saw an interview with gleb. i was absolutely sure that he there will be and at that very moment and he will never get lost, this less-than-ideal boy in the lyceum, in fact, has long had the reputation of a hero , when the rashists shelled the brovary district last spring, he was among those who were sorting through the rubble of damaged houses about

the concept of the arithmetic square root so today we are writing down the topic of the plural and its elements teacher hleba knows well what it is like to suddenly find yourself in trouble when you want someone to urgently come to your aid at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine in a village in chernihiv region the occupiers captured victoria in the park, by all means tell the children about it if they ask, then i tell them, but not in such detail, because the details are so-and-so . that’s all that remains. then bina changed to go, you know, and the children have become more attentive to what is happening around them first of all

it is responsibility for oneself for one's actions, plus it is attentiveness, it is diligence to see everything through, come on. well, why didn't anyone think of coming to work with us? well, i am very grateful for the work that they did during the maidan than workers, well, they worked all over the place, but they would you were the first to help our children, our e-e educators, so well done, that's how it should be . they are people who did not turn their backs on someone else's grief . teenagers who overcame fear in circumstances that are called difficult, even professional rescuers are remembered as a sign of gratitude of the ministry of internal affairs for their care and courage, this is the same more difficult fire, which was an extra time where i had to work, schoolchildren, well done, yes, they immediately provided first aid, helped take out the teachers, took out the children, took them into houses and hid them from the cold from that difficult

the situation that was on the spot, that being the saviors, this is a gift from the minister of internal affairs igor volodymyrovych klymenko, it was given to us for special courage and for our actions gleb is still determined with life choices andriy dreams to be a border guard, anton to be a military pilot, victor to be a scout, they say that they are ready to defend the homeland from the enemy even now, that there will be some kind of offensive, i don't know now, i can, you say so, and then it won't be like that, in fact , if it will be such a situation, but i think that i am ready to give life is there for his brother to save his life and this one, these words you believe without a doubt, these are not the empty thoughts of young dreamers, the words of those who, even in adolescence, proved their intentions with very concrete actions, courage is when you know that you you are fighting an enemy who is much stronger

than you, but you are not going to give up just like that and you will prove your principles to the last yevgeny onoprienko roman parashev maksym cheblin volodymyr dedov volodymyr samchenko details tv channel inter marathon yatini news they are not our enemies protect yours a year ago i hugged you a year ago we were building our own future a year ago we thought about what we would be like in 20 years or 30 years ago we laid the foundation for our grandchildren a year

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protect my ukraine, will, freedom, love, we are the ones who are building a new, strong, free and i defend independent ukraine i defend i defend i defend ukrainian gives freedom we have 45 synonyms for the word killed and you are free to choose exactly how you want to get even with the enemy it is difficult to convey your feelings for lack of words create new ones this is how we got the art of a dream and a future the occupiers wag their tails pro-ukrainian cottonwood and cotton and we are happy with 30 letters did not mention us do not destroy us protect us power of three forms of the future tense we will go we will go we will go to victory

in spite of everything ukrainian language of the free let's be frank even after 8 years of annexation crimea and the occupation of parts of donbas broke in the minds of many ukrainians exactly on february 24, 2022. at first there was shock , refusal to believe, then when bucha gostomel mariupol destroyed peaceful ukrainian cities, killing adults and children, torture from rape, until the end we could not imagine that our neighbors were capable of such but now we realized we faced fascism in its purest form, which in terms of cruelty sometimes exceeds even german nazism of the 20th century marathon continues the only news on the air column accent my

name is oleksiy fadeev and accent today we let's address the question of how russian fascism arose and how it will end, and our guests today are serhii puzan, head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation, congratulations and dmytro zolotukhin, executive director of the institute of post-information society . congratulations, gentlemen. so, the first question for you is , in your opinion, when did it start with what started russian fascism? i think it is necessary to understand here that russian fascism and chauvinism in general are the consequences of that imperialism, which , actually, the russians professed during the entire time of their existence. state, and if we look even at the second world war at the entire history of russian statehood, or even starting with moscow statehood, then

there is this spirit of chauvinism, it is literally permeated, it just changed form, that is , from the tsarist, from tsarist russia, smoothly transitioned to soviet russia, and i i will remind you that there they also tried to talk about the absence of a nation there, about the friendship of peoples and the like, but in the end this soviet union turned into this neo-imperial entity completely out of chauvinistic and with imperialistic aspirations, the same russian federation itself changed its form to a federal state and a federal state, but in its essence it simply did not change, that is, in other words, you are saying that this eurasianism, fascism, chauvinism has always existed in the comprehensive history of russia, absolutely absolutely, and the attitude towards other nations is the same starting from tsarist russia, when literally other nationalities were exterminated only because they were, well, less strong, less

developed, this is absolutely in nature of russian statehood, dmitry, what do you think there have always been very good articles by the american historian timati snyder, who is actually considered one of the key researchers in the world of issues related to the e-e period of the fascist invasion of hitler's germany on the soviet union, and he uses a very interesting term called schizo-fascist schizo-fascist and he says that the schizophrenic fascism, the schizo-fascism of russia consists in the fact that they will be fascists , they call everyone else fascists, and it is the historian and historians, in fact, as experts who investigate the very phenomenon of the fascist narrative and the fascist state. he very carefully sets this up and gives examples from the history of hitler's germany, that is , how hitler and his nsdp party

formed this narrative regarding the attack on stalin and, in turn, formed the same narrative that was just a mirror image of what was and then connects it with the narrative that vladimir putin is building, saying that stalin was a hero . that is, his joseph stalin is one of the key historical figures for modern russia and they support it in every possible way. i gave birth to the fact that it was stalin who built the greatness of russia on the fact that this is what he did, which means a victory once a victory. so we can repeat it, so it is ours, it is our work, but in my opinion it is necessary to explain it to a wide audience on simple things , and it reminds me of an unhappy child. and what actually succeeded did she succeed, if only with her physical capabilities, that is, such a great, such

a boot, but very unhappy, whom no one loved, who was constantly pushed out, gone sochnits and this is the narrative that they say and we and here and i and i you and i will punch you all in the face and i you all it seems to me something similar i heard in uh some similar opinion i heard once in some interview of some of a russian dissident about the fact that, in fact, all these atrocities of the rashists deep down have the desire to be loved, that is, they kill in order to be loved , a huge, huge amount of testimony from the occupied territories. media and site detector media she described how she was under the occupation of a and b, including a lot of authors wrote about it, and people, when they are russian fighters, when they come to ukrainian land and see how

ukrainian houses are arranged there, how is everything there, yes, everything is fine there and they don't believe that ordinary people can live like this, well, there's some kind of interception when you introduce them to wooden asphalt, yes, to wooden asphalt, they have juice that is delicious, so apple-like to me, and so on. and this inability also converts me once at the beginning of the zero years i saw yes, you can see yevheniya hryshkovts performances. this was one of the cultural phenomena, and here he is telling how he served on a russian island and how they were told, look here , machaon butterflies are flying and you can’t touch them, and then he tells me that means i personally killed three and when he says this he is so guilty she says and who else could we take revenge on and here is this formula and who else can we take revenge on it clearly reflects this cultural class that

these are deeply traumatized people who do not see any meaning in their lives except for harming others in order to prove to yourself that you are not living in vain well, i think that for the audience it is worth making a remark that we we are not trying to justify them here so we are trying in a certain way to steam and watch with people who are mentally unbalanced we lock them up for forcible treatment, and actually you, this is what should be done with the russian federation , it must be closed for the forcible treatment of those citizens who became victims of this even more far-fetched thing, we will talk about it a little later absolutely, it is even about this question, but now i want to return to a-ah recent history, yes, to the concept of us, we understand that the ukrainian nation or ukraine as

an entity. by the russian people and about these problems, everyone there probably wrote classics by shevchenko and so on, and historians, we know this, but for the most recent history , for the history that for us there, conditionally for the ukrainian new state, begins in 1991, when exactly these signs began to appear well, conventionally speaking, something is wrong with the neighbors , what do you think, look at the arrival of putin, that is, in fact, these signs were just uh. i apologize for the year 2000, yes, it is already the beginning of the 2000s. his government, if we carefully follow it, well, it will not be a surprise to everyone, uh, all these explosions in residential buildings, which were arranged by the russian special services , and all western commentators also wrote about it, and everyone understood that this is how they come to power in russia.

is gaining popularity, that is, what is it for? it was done only in order to get support from the same people, to mobilize various different peoples who live within the borders of this territory, and for this support, what happened next is the continuation of the chechen wars , soldiers, and precisely the use of these carpet bombings, carpet bombings, wait . well, the first and the second chechen war , they were in favor of that, if we could say that according to the nature of society's attitude towards them, they were a little different, in my opinion, or they collected signatures against the first chechen war and for the termination of the first chechen war, and so on. and yes we all know how it ended with the hasidic agreements and so on. it

is impossible at this moment. that is, this is the rhetoric of the president - this is who is mentioned, approximately what period is it, is it the second or the first, or somewhere in between, yes, the second chechen says yes, the second , yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, this is already, this is already their last company . that is, this is a saying for me, the editor, what is it after on the kashirsky highway, these explosions are so artists of sorts, so absolutely putin’s rating is rising just to the sky, that is, he doesn’t need anything else, we will remember the invasion of georgia. that is, again , putin’s rating immediately rose, and in fact, a first-year student who studied eh, well strictly speaking , state building understands that states have an extensive, intensive path of development, and all, let's say, all the smaller european states have followed precisely the path of intensive, where their production improves and is organized social relations, but there are many national in weight imperial formations, they simply have no other way like you, this extrasive way of development, that is, to capture something in the process of this capture, to mobilize

completely different peoples of nationalities, which in fact have nothing in common except the power of this state , and to move in this way further and as soon as they stop this expansion , those internal contradictions immediately emerge . it is paradoxical that, if you insist on this logic, as you are currently teaching , european small states with limited resources managed to an intensive a-a path of development yes, russia is a country with well, if limited, then very, very large resources , human, natural, any there managed to extensive why, what kind of paradox is this , eh, i think that eh, to the authorities at the turn of the 90s and zero years, a group of people came who no longer knew how to do anything, i.e. now we are returning to the discussions around, that is , mikhail khodorkovsky and the people who allegedly

support him there, and if, well, again , we roll back, we retrospectively consider that all these people, they tried to build something there, they stole something, they built something, but it’s still a big complex. the russian federation , because of its location on the gas and oil reserves, requires some management approach that will be able to sell these resources and people began to build them accordingly . the first accumulated capital. and at this very moment vladimir putin and his entourage came to power precisely against the background of this psychological breakdown when we when they said let's shut the door on all eyes and we will provide you with security because here you are exploding to a joint contract social change of the social contract and boris yeltsin when he proposed his joint contract he said let's take responsibility here i am i took responsibility we destroyed the soviet

union and now we are something let's make a new social contract proposed by vladimir putin here, he said to close your eyes as i will make all the decisions instead of you and in exchange for this i will give you the security that he is actually because of this feeling of greatness, of course, that is, i will give you i will say that you are cool. that you are all fine. everything is safe, everything is fine, just don't pay attention to anything, and as a result, he simply leveled the entire polyana under himself, that is , the people who came to power, they did not know how to earn, they only knew how to squeeze planting, twisting, committing torture and so on and the like, well actually then the field was completely cleared and berezovsky was killed, nadrukovsky was planted and so on and so on. that is, all the people who uh, it's not that they're good, well, if not, no, we have someone good, someone bad, just when, uh, in ukraine, an oligarchic consensus was formed precisely with the help of the fact that there was some kind

of competition between people who were setting up some kind of economic growth, then in russia, it was all attributed to one group of people who simply are not able to think in terms of construction and er, if she is able to think er in terms of development, in the conditions there, the volume is my own, it’s all right now, and how do we see these meetings in the federation council , putin’s speeches, and these famous military men and bloggers, they go out and take selfies and videos in which they say that volodymyr volodymyrovych said everything, how we love everyone, the volume of everyone, we will rob everything, that means everything is leveled , yes, yes. actually, remind me about the warlords a little later, now i just want to ask an additional question, if possible, in this logic, what are you saying now do i understand correctly that nothing so unusual has happened to the russian people, it happened to him there first stalin, then putin means which one

means him and how was it deceived, or is it correct that there cannot be a social contract on the one hand, a social contract is always concluded with two offers, that is, yes, vladimir putin proposed it, that is, i remove all responsibility for your life from you and take it upon myself, and i will advise yes, and i will spin you as i want and in return , i give you here is conditional security, conditional your majesty, you will feel like members of a great power there, i will give you back the soviet anthem, and this was a huge discussion , i think in 2000 or 2001, the first thing vladimir putin did was replace the russian anthem returned half to the full soviet and actually this social contract was about that here you are really right that it is necessary to separately emphasize that the responsibility is borne by all the russians who

were involved in this a-ah and here again there are discussions in the west about what not you can say collective responsibility. there is a difference between the concept of collective collective guilt and responsibility, that is, if we are talking about war, this means punishment, responsibility can be taken by everyone for what he did and did not do, what happens in normal civilized countries today are trying to convince us, in particular, including our western partners, that the russians are not responsible for what is happening, that is, there is no need to impose collective guilt on them, collective guilt, yes, this is part of some legal consensus of the legal context of the legal states in which we live including in the sphere of european values, however, the responsibility lies on the other side of the social contract. it lies with

those russians who supported this social contract the treaty did not do anything to change it, it is strange that the west is talking to you about it now, the same west that carried out the denazification of germany, and according to the germans themselves , denazification as a phenomenon, as a project, was built around a sense of guilt, the guilt of everyone and everyone for what happened at least in the west in germany, yes, in the east, in a slightly different way. yes, in another, the cannoneer was now the main promoter of the narrative that, let's agree , germany and austria are, in essence, imperial countries in their imperial country, which they understand very much moscow and the nations that are offered there, and that is why, of course, there are a huge number of people in berlin and vienna who say, "well, what's up with ukraine? let's somehow resolve this issue, gentlemen, but let's go back to ukraine, we have only one interest ." er, we understand this. and if you remember us, er, and you and i can remember ourselves in those

years, a-a, it’s a pity that we where did we miss, where did we not take care or did we see everything but did not believe in what could be such well absolutely that is, it is under the influence let's say yes, the russian worldview before in politics, that is, being a politician in life, why not, well, yes, it was socialized ha-ha-ha what a cool quote you listen to me sevastopol after that the banderites are such evil bloodthirsty er-er ato their mazepa is a traitor that is, it is absolutely russian discourse and if we look at it, we understand that everyone who until - as long as we are calm let's get rid of the russian world until then somewhere more or less, but everything is calm, although the memory of that is why we will remember all these shows and i will remind you

of the attitude to these funny guys are from tuzla tuzla is a kuchmishche during the presidency, and this is the first, this is the first such bell. as they say, absolutely undisguised military aggression . well, it’s just a test, so they measure it. it ’s the same thing about oiling the strength of this state entity, and as soon as they gave the go-ahead , from that time on, the preparation began already. now to the real answer, because it turns out that these pitiful khokhlas for some reason do not even want to enter. well, formally raise their hands and surrender to the russians, and that's where the development begins, that is, it is absolutely clear that first of all, we need to do something with ukraine, this is not because the russians treat us in any special way, they treat the chechens, the dobryats, absolutely the same , as well as absolutely all the peoples who inhabit the russian federation today, including all those who are well, the soviet union was inhabited