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[000:00:00;00] accelerate accelerate your disintegration why is this book interesting, i looked at it, i looked until i only received it and looked at it today, it contains a lot of content, and about the demographic state of russia, about anti-federal offensives, economic ingredients, ethnic dimensions, reviving communities, you have to be, you know, i always get used to what we should be smart and always try to be smart, that's why it's important thank you for being with us my dear friends and dear friends e-e subscribe likes and comment on us on instagram twitter telegram on facebook support us on the youtube platform we will become better only thanks to you and because of your criticism, comments and support, of course we also want your support - this is important for us, we are ready to grow, change and, uh, do our work better and better and better and all together we we can come to our victory well, just now broadcast continuation colleague serhiy rudenko program verdict serhiy congratulations , please congratulate vasylya literally in a few
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seconds we will start glory to ukraine this is the program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko everyone good day and good health today is february 21, the 363rd day of the ukrainian people's heroic resistance to the russian occupiers of poland, biden is expected to give a speech in warsaw today, which is already being called historic , although yesterday was the historic arrival of joseph biden to kyiv, meanwhile, putin is thundering nuclear weapons again, he has just become the president of the russian federation in his annual message to the federal assembly, he announced that russia was suspending participation in the strategic offensive arms treaty, obviously now biden will respond to putin in his speech what does this mean for the united states of america and the world, meanwhile, ukraine is waiting for help from western allies, and the russian occupiers continue to lose
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manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of february 21, russia has already lost 14,440 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces ukraine destroyed 760 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3,326 tanks, 6,562 armored combat vehicles, 2,338 artillery systems, four s-471 rocket systems, a hall of fire, 243 means of air defense, 299 aircraft, 287 helicopters , 5,210 units of automotive equipment, 18
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ships, boats , 873 cruise missiles, 2,023 drones, 226 units of special equipment, putin's lying speech before the federal assembly, biden is making history, and china is hesitating whether to join the russian-ukrainian war or not. our guest is a politician-diplomat, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019, pavlo klimkin , mr. pavlo, good day, good health to you, and i am glad that you are with us today. greetings, serhiy greetings to all my friends and i am glad to be with you, let's start with the actual thing. putin just finished his speech in front of the federal assembly and the most important thing is what he said afterwards that russia is suspending participation in the treaty on strategic offensive weapons and he thundered nuclear weapons today, he blamed the punishers and neo-nazis of ukraine as he said and reprimanded the united states of america that they want to change
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the world order that existed after the second world war, you listened to putin, i watched the wine tape, uh, i'm listening, well, i'm in the mood to spoil the morning like that, but if it was serious, he had a meeting with german friends, so i didn’t have time, but i looked in detail at what he said and i also looked at some scraps, so for me he didn’t say anything new there, and as they say from his nothing, what am i paid attention, he was more radical than uh during the previous victories uh he spoke in the same words but the tone was deliberately chosen more radical as far as arms control is concerned, that's how they spoiled and
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destroyed you completely they started with the treaty on conventional armed forces in the euro and finished the entire arms control regime. and as for strategic weapons, they didn’t go to the meeting, they didn’t allow inspections, the americans didn’t just say that in fact russia is already fundamentally violating the treaty, that’s why here, as for me, too. nothing new, but pay attention to his key signals. he repeated again i am talking about the fact that ukraine is supposedly a project that the west began to develop in the 19th century. well, just imagine the depth of it. the conspiracy theory about the west goes back a century, that is, there are people who
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they believe something is wrong there, they have a martian, there are people who believe there with kavid something, and putin is real that the west has stood for hundreds of years and is somehow trying to destroy russia, and it’s not just that he never us, eh, either as a nation, or as a country, or as for those who have their own history, you don’t know. if he thinks that we started building in the 19th century, then i don’t understand. and the cossacks. who are they? they are probably some russian cossacks, and mazepa and khmelnytskyi . and also, well, i know the students in general, uh, i’m not talking about early history and graffiti on the holiday of sophia what language are they written in? they are written in old ukrainian. this is not our statement. well, in fact, you can say that, but magdeburg is from the seasoning. where was it? that
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is, he has such an obsessive one. i would say federa. he made it for himself. he looks at it, drew it , hung it. and he won't get off of it, which i also paid attention to, he is trying to somehow jump everyone up, to spur them on to the fact that there will be consolidation, he says that a factory has been built there, this is a victory , a kindergarten has been built, a victory has been built , some small business has been built - this is a victory and i think that here he is consciously trying to umbrella the russian population, i won't say society, and wants to return all his logic to the second world war and say that we are uniting, we are moving forward
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, but it actually sounds somewhat tragicomic. uh, from what i read the text, well, actually , i'll try again, uh, listen to it, well, it's not very pleasant, but in fact , it's a professional necessity of obligations, uh, you know, there was some kind of mix, i re-listened to putin's speech, rather, i listened to him live , which speech did he give there was some kind of mix the brezhnev region, the andropov region, and maybe early stalin. well, roughly, this is the mix at the beginning. putin started talking about timing, saying that now is the turning point of drastic changes in the world that affect the future of russia. we will hear what putin said in today's message. i speak in
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a complex way. we know very well the frontier for our country, the time ahead of cardinal irreversible changes in the whole world, the most important historical events that determine the future of our country and our people. i want it will repeat it they unleashed a war and we used force and we use it to stop it this thesis that putin constantly repeats that it was they who started the war, well , it does not even mean ukraine, because he constantly refers to what the west and the united states of america have been saying since in 2014, the master of the kremlin was led by the nose with the minsk agreements, you were witnesses of these difficult negotiations and in 2014-2015 until 2019 as
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ministers of foreign affairs, was putin's rhetoric like that then ? it is clear that now he is all of us considers the punishers not the nazis. well, different people there are called ugly people. you consider all ukrainians to be in communication then. was it felt by the russian federation and why do they constantly say that they were taken to zanis? and i don’t think so, serhiy that he considers us nazis well, he's not an idiot either. she's neither a cist nor a nazi , it doesn't matter how he doesn't consider us equal and never will . he'll always consider us third-class people who should just
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obey moscow, look what's up this is happening a few weeks before this message, everyone was just speculating, and what will putin tell us, well , how is it different from uh, tsarist russia , where everyone was waiting for this, how is it different from what stalin actually said, this is the absolute logic of the pyramid, they they are built on this , most of them are happy, this is both logic and attention to macron's last interview, which he gave on the way back from the minsk-munich conference on security issues. in fact , in many ways, it reflects such a standard macron's view yes, russia is a program, but one day it needs to have dimensions, but he said one completely new thing , he recognized in a direct text that it is not only putin and that putin's changes, as he says, i am not sure that this
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will lead to something better, and this, in my opinion, is the first the statement of a european politician of this rank who says yes, it is not only putin, it is not only the russian elite, it is the whole of russia in general, and this is absolutely clear to us . putin will continue to raise this topic. for him, it is part of the dialogue and we all have to understand his ideology, all his so-called, as they like to say, creaks, they don't make any sense, they're so marasmatic, and without us, they don't make any sense at all. well, without his logic, nothing about the so-called one people makes any
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sense. and besides, he understands that the whole the empire always held on to the mythology of one nation, and now look at the demography today in russia, it is a complete disaster, but if there is a caucasus, well, there are different numbers, somewhere there, somewhere there, 15, somewhere, 20 per thousand population . and the whole of central russia is there somewhere, somewhere seven, somewhere eight, that is, he has all the logic, the entire structure of his empire, it is rebooted and he understands perfectly , and that is why he never recognizes us, he says that i am always prevented from eating ukraine and i am offended by this. let me eat. after the collapse of the soviet union, i have everything this is to return well, of course he will eat moldova, but he almost never saw moldova, and now we actually keep moldova safe, and it is absolutely obvious, so there is no need to think that putin can make progress someday, he
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can listen to any rational arguments someday he will talk about values. imagine him saying. this is only our trust and decency. and all the others are really like that. although everyone understands perfectly well how putin has been lying since the 14th year . she was caught by him, she says yes, he is the same, we will tell me that , of course. and what about the pro-russian troops in donbas, well, he says that you are not there for him, he is lying to me , he is the president of russia. that is, it went west for a very long time, but now it has gone and it went final and we will not do anything by putin ourselves. putin cannot be tamed. he can only be defeated and this victory must be complex, of course military, but complex so that the entire
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essence of this regime and this empire is reloaded . there are absolutely no other options, especially when 130 or 140 million of these small putin , to whom he addressed today. putin started his speech today and for about 40 minutes spoke exclusively about ukraine . the first 40 minutes, then he was already there. they they shared some information about social projects. by the way, he is going to build roads. well, they can’t invent anything. they are borrowing everything in ukraine. roads are going to be built because there are only the directions of russia’s days. but what did putin say? putin said that the west turned the economic front and made the russians suffer. sanctions, we will hear from putin, as i have already said, the west has turned against us not only the military
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information front, but also the economic front, but nothing has been achieved anywhere, and it will not be achieved, i am talking about anti-russian sanctions, this is only the means and the goal as declared by the western leaders themselves are accepted date to make our toy suffer to make such humanists suffer, but judging by what mr. pavla putin says, it seems that he is deliberately going for this complete isolation and the creation of north korea 2, that is, russia is turning into a northern korea 2 because today he was talking about entrepreneurs , saying that they are buying villas and yachts abroad, let the one who invests more in russia come to russia. who will leave money here and will educate their children here is a real patriot
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well, that is, he has an absolutely fully articulated goal - it is to turn er russia into a soviet union with an iron er iron curtain because er, the entire course of historical events of the last eight years shows that he was going for it, that's the truth, well absolutely i think that he has been going to this for more than 20 years. i am absolutely sure that his desire to destroy ukraine as a country. common economic space may remember this something like the fact that lukashenko is being kicked over the head right now, lukashenko is already trying to keep his power and
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we fought back . the so-called tripartite gas consortium from germany, but to take 51% of the shares and thus eat our gas transportation system , and they also succeeded, and i also remember this very well, and then tuzla began. then the fourth year of yanukovych began and the history of we all e- is we remember very well what he says, this is his sincere conviction, this is his sincere understanding of his mission. he very much wants that in russian textbooks, in no other textbooks, he will not be present or will be present as a criminal , and in the russian ones he thinks when he will protect himself from everyone there there, through whom they will write, there is peter the great, there is putin, who is kepler, we do not know him, volodymyr velikyevich does not know the main great one. so
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, unfortunately, he did not fit in here, so he will beat on this and very, very consistently. try to destroy everything around me . by the way, we will probably talk about china later . weeks ago, it was very interesting to communicate with chinese experts. you somehow hold korea, but you definitely cannot stand the second big north korea, so think very, very well, what you are doing , and the chinese said, yes, this is a fact, this is a fact that worries us, and in fact, what putin says is the same, we are the essence of civilization, well, this is fact
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er, which will be left to cultural experts, but i do not recognize and do not understand russia as an original civilization, but he says that we are also open. so when he says that we are open, it sounds like a bad victim, so he can say a lot of things. but nevertheless, we we perfectly understand his personal thoughts. and we also understand that a large part of the russian elites, although they are very successful, they really want to return to the usual for them, uh , some kind of lifestyle of earning money or crosses there in russia and then spending it, they screw up. well, they understand what would they do without putin? they are very afraid that after putin there will be an unknown collapse. by the way, what is feared is not yet a pity and part of the west, but the west is also gradually maturing, not as quickly as we would like, but i see that it is maturing. so, in
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the west, thoughts are going in the right direction, but unfortunately too slowly, mr. pavlo, we already have putin's synchronicity about what he announced about the suspension of participation in the treaty on strategic offensive weapons, let's hear it again , they are suspending their participation in the treaty on strategic offensive violations , i repeat, i repeat, it does not come out of the agreement, no, yes precisely suspend their participation, mr. pavlo, what does this mean, let's explain to our viewers, that is, there are two countries
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, the united states of america and russia, and they control each other in strategic offensive weapons, well , at least they allow each other to control strategic weapons, i understand correctly , in fact, the treaty on strategic offensive weapons are about two things, it's two in one, it's limitation and control. when i started my modest career in the ministry of foreign affairs, my first two treaties were precisely the treaty on the limitation of anti-missile defense systems and the first the agreement on the limitation of strategic offensive weapons is already the third, that is, the limitation is that there is a number of warheads that can be deployed in the thousands and there are restrictions on how many and where you can have them, and the second is the inspection control procedure. russia left the inspection a long time ago
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. that is, it actually she suspended her participation a long time ago if she does not allow the inspection , yes and where is the actual participation in the contract, then they left with the mandatory consultation, i emphasize that the consultation is not what you want. talk about it in the contract, it is written in the contract that it is necessary to meet and talk about the implementation of the contract, therefore , russia is fundamental. this contract has been violated. and this is another puppet of putin, and i believe that he shot himself in the foot, but most likely twice, i will tell you why now the west and not only the west will think about what putin is doing, and whether we need to strengthen our nuclear deterrence, and i believe that this is an absolutely
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logical question for the west. and by the way, not only for the west, the logical question is what do further and i am absolutely sure that now nata will work on this separately by the americans of the nuclear countries, but nato and before the freedom summit, and maybe even before , solutions will be prepared and i emphasize not proposals because the proposal we know this is a serious matter when it concerns nuclear weapons but i think that there will be the decision and here putin has already miscalculated, he miscalculated in us, he fundamentally underestimates the fundamental , worked himself, that is, russia underestimated the event . i think that he once again miscalculated fundamentally and underestimated the event and the reaction will actually be very systemic, the west knows how to raise rates, the west has a technological
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advantage and the west understands that it is necessary to move forward, so i think that the west will now have a conceptual reboot of the entire logic of deterrence, but i am talking about this , remember for many months, i have been saying that we need a new concept strategy and concepts and a strategy of deterring russia we need a new concept of strategic weakening of russia what is being done now we touched on this then he says and here we are economic but this is actually he is very, very early happy really remember when sanctions were introduced and everyone said russia would have minus six minus eight gdp and it didn't happen as putin says well but there is -3% somewhere, but there are sanctions
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where are they really they are acting unfortunately and i really emphasize as a ukrainian as a person who understands from the heart that it is a pity, but they are acting . they are certainly and they will 100% strangle the whole of russia, er, er, let's see what china's behavior will be in the whole situation, since china has already started to say that the situation can get out of hand control well, but this is probably a separate topic. so we will talk about china a little later, let's still mention one more event, because it is very important, the visit of joseph biden to kyiv , a historic visit without exaggeration, volodymyr zelenskyi says that during the negotiations it was possible to agree on the supply of such types of weapons which have not yet been included in aid packages, and ukraine and the united states of america are true allies and our relations have reached the most meaningful level, we will hear from
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zelenskyi, we are working on the supply of long-range weapons and other types of weapons which were not previously included in the support packages. i thank you for another package that will definitely strengthen our guys on the front lines. i also thank all ukrainians on behalf of all americans , of course, people, community leaders, members of congress from both parties, and all members of president biden's team for the fact that our relations between ukraine and america have reached the most meaningful historical level, we can be called true allies and our alliance with america really strengthens the world of mr. pavel, the fact that yesterday was the arrival of biden
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to the capital of a country that is at war and under russian aggression against the federation is a completely unprecedented step. it seems to me that none of the presidents of the united states of america have done something like this, they flew to military bases in various countries where hostilities were taking place , but no one expected such a thing from biden, and even more so vladimir putin, is it possible this is to consider what happened yesterday as a 100% public humiliation of the president of the russian federation on the world stage. there is a special one, he called his friend, which are american military racks , he specifically asked if he ever remembers that the american president went to a combat zone where there are no american troops. he said that no, paul, that 100% did not happen. this is the first time in the entire history of the united states since the end of the 18th century, and this is what biden did, he deliberately did it in the so-called
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presidential it was yesterday in the united states. by the way, the republicans tried to carefully criticize him here . well done, of course, biden, that he went to ukraine, that's cool, but it would be nice to be in the states on this very day, but that's already internal. politics, nevertheless, biden, in my opinion, has demonstrated that he is devoted as president, as an american citizen, not just as a person, to those values ​​that he, as a politician , has always proclaimed, that is, he does not proclaim something and then say well, maybe there, there, there , we will go to the left there so much let's go to the right he always says yes i proclaim it and i stick to it and i respect it very, very much in him he is a very believing person and he
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has very, very much and humanity in that he will support ukraine, i mentioned today when i met him there for the first time, and it was a meeting in his office, and he said , do you understand, pavel? well, i’m there, i have a different opinion than obama about the supply of weapons, and i say it out loud , of course, when we have an internal discussion , and i’m telling you here that you you, as ukrainians, can always count on me there, but unfortunately i cannot break the ban, and there were people who advised him to take a more cautious position about the armed forces. nevertheless, he took exactly such a position. pace but nevertheless, he has great respect for this as well as for this visit, and you and i said at the beginning of our conversation that he is now in poland and

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