[000:00:00;00] due to the nature of the dislocation, we are following this event and, of course, we are waiting for joseph biden's speech in the gardens of the royal palace, as far as we understand that it should be some kind of joint press conference of the parent type panels, let's hope yes , maybe maybe it will be before maybe it will be after you dear tv viewers, an important signal from the national security adviser of the president of the united states for ikasalin ot for russia did not give any guarantee regarding the trip of the president of the united states to kyiv, the finehill times writes about this, quoting they only confirmed the receipt of the message, there was no exchange

, it was just a message and confirmation of receipt of no security guarantees, no security guarantees, according to sulliv, russia was warned only so that they would not be surprised by the strengthening of security measures. meeting ukraine, nato, european union , you and i watched the press conference of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba , actually, the head of nato, hanse stoutenberg , and jose borel was also present at this press conference, in my opinion, a very clear and interesting signal is the message he sent to stoltenberg about the fact that nato, the european union, and ukraine are developing long-term agreements for the security of ukraine and europe as a whole, and not only we will talk to yehor draft people's deputy of ukraine deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on national security and head of the verkhovna rada's permanent delegation to the nato parliamentary assembly igor congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, actually, i'll start with what i noted, we are clear in the fact that

ukraine's future is within the framework of the european family, we are now developing long-term agreements for the security of ukraine and europe . nato will be by ukraine's side as long as necessary. we will work with the eu to achieve such security. the first thing i thought about was actually the security guarantees for our states, including as a result of the conflict with the russian federation. can we put here, i don't know, some kind of equal sign between what is being developed in nato , the european union and directly in ukraine and what we really need in the future let's let's then divide the security guarantee into two stages, the first er this stage is what i would conventionally call transitional after our victory to nato and the third and second this stage in principle of our accession to nato because this is the main final goal a-a after our victory to become members of the coin and this is the largest and most effective security guarantee

of any existing today for the transition period we are talking about our partner countries not on such a volunteer e-e beginning not on e-e rammstein format which is well not that to be unstable but for today he gathered for some specific purpose and, in principle, with some obligations, there were also a-a in the agreements with us fixed legally, that is, conditionally speaking, we are talking about the fact that the history of the war with russia will not be repeated while we are in the transition period to nato we have to have clear guarantees that we will have weapons that we will need financial assistance sanctions pressure well here is this package uh this will be guarantees of such security because well we understand that the fifth

article we have not received it yet until the 5th article template agreement until we become members of nato, which is actually the most effective security guarantee, that's what i think it's about today dear mr. egor, the visit of the president, the historic visit of president joseph biden to kyiv , the equally historic visit of president biden to warsaw, so we don't know what exactly will the polish and ukrainian presidents agree on , but i wanted you to summarize the visit to kyiv by the president of the united states. have seen and there are a lot of such symbolic dates and the day of the heroes of the heavenly hundred who laid down their lives just so that we would have a prosperous country without corruption and far from russia, the russian federation, and european integration, secondly, this day of the president

was in the united states, what are you planning to do in ukraine, well, i think that it is like this . if we talk about symbolism, signals are such a clear signal to putin that no one is afraid of him, even if he says so , they actually despise him with such a signal and a signal that ukraine will never be under some kind of protectorate or influence of the russian federation, eh, this is what you know , a concrete, concrete evidence that we are part of the west, and that we are, that our civilizational choice has been made, that this is the period of four hundred years of history, eh -e joint venture with the russian federation is coming to an end and we are going to europe , we are going to the west and well, if we practically talk about what about what was uh, what

was discussed at the meeting between you presidents, this is how to speed up our victory and get it already in 2023, what kind of weapons are needed well, here, in principle, everything is known uh well, you saw what happened, he announced a new aid package well, this is a really important important visit of support ugh yes well, of course , an important story began to walk around the chinese peace plan, mr. yehor, has not yet been published. recently, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, mr. dmytro kuleba, announced that one of the main chinese diplomats, who had just completed a europe trip, is now in moscow and shared a van with him and the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine by the key positions

of the peace plan, which will be studied in detail by our side after receiving the full text. dmytro kuleba said this at a joint press conference with jozep borel and the secretary general of nato and gens stountenberg, quoting our minister of foreign affairs. we are looking forward to receiving the text as soon as it is where you can draw conclusions only after hearing what the plan is about. we need to know all the details as soon as we receive the document, we will carefully study it and draw conclusions. maybe you heard something, well no all the details but maybe some general diplomatic outline uh -uh i don’t know exactly the details here it’s more interesting uh-uh in general the position of china regarding a-ah this peaceful settlement initiative from their with uh-uh on two ukraines because it indicates that they too you already know they already got the war, they are already tired because it affects not only the western world with sanctions, but

also affects china and india, and this war needs to be ended, they are their own words, but you all understand, and everything is hidden in detail, therefore , it is necessary to understand what is proposed here what are the steps and what does china offer us to do here? you know how we are. our strategic partners are the united states, and we trust the west more . what president zelensky says, this and this and this plan will be ready to be carried out by moscow, so why, mr. igor, did you notice that china and india are getting so tired of the conflict that has actually been resolved on the continent, they feel its influence on themselves but is it so strong in order to finally

get close to something culminations well, for example, armed to help the russian federation, in your opinion, armed, i think not. and in principle, they speak quite openly about this, it is the efficient china that speaks about the fact that they are leaving the position, well , that is, they are staying in the position of neutrality , they understand that they do not want counter- confrontation with the west because of this, because they have an export-oriented economy, which definitely cannot withstand the sanctions there if at least half of them are imposed, as on the russian federation, because i think that there will be no help with armaments; moreover, i think that china actually does not consider russia to be the same and close allies or partners or somehow a country for which

it is necessary to suffer, let's say, to be included in this uh, it is possible to sanction pressure, that is why they are looking for ways out through some peace plans or peace negotiations, again, let's see what they will propose and what the reaction will be, including an extremely important signal p igor how would you read russia's withdrawal from the fundamental treaty on offensive strategic weapons well, not about the withdrawal but about the suspension, but we understand na what they are hinting at is that the story is extremely serious, so of course no one will succumb to russian nuclear blackmail , in particular, it is about the civilized part of humanity, but in any case, this is a march is probably the most important thing in all of putin's current speech, maybe that is the most important thing again the rattling of weapons, but the wording is very interesting, what does it mean to suspend a new

one or withdraw from the treaty or not to withdraw from the treaty, that is, if you withdraw from the treaty, then you start to rearm there, increase the number of nuclear warheads, and so on if you don't leave, you stay, then you stay at the quantitative indicators that were agreed upon, and what does it mean to suspend, that is, increase and then decrease well, i don't, i don't understand, it will look profitable for them directly, and what to do with those warheads that were produced well, look at this it's just uh trying to intimidate you know so ah good mine with a bad bad game when they try to block and say well if you go even further then we 'll do it now although we won't do it here and i think it's absolutely clearly understood in

washington is definitely not going to play along with them in any way. hmmm, in fact, could there be a statement today at the speech of joseph biden, in particular , about this, well, this is such an important, very symbolic moment. i think that yesterday's arrival in kyiv you know, i mixed up all the cards for putin, because against the background of yesterday's passage, today's performance was simply, well, it looked pathetic, if i'm honest . especially since the same messages are the same trampling, insults to the west that everyone insulted him there, everyone threw them everything everything against him, but there were no new, er, real messages. therefore, reacting to this. this gum that they have been chewing for er year makes absolutely no sense, mr. igor, we would like to ask you about the dynamics of the supply of weapons to us, in particular, it is, of course, heavy

armored vehicles and about aviation, yes, messenger, there were a lot of signals, hints, there were even more , we give, we don’t give, but we give, but we don’t want to be, we are the first, and so on, and so on. it is clear what and why, but still they start repeating the story that not all the equipment is in proper condition, but not two battalions, but one, and so on . in fact, the messages with which we came to the munich conference with which our parliamentary delegation spoke to zelenskyi, what is important is the speed and quantity of what is announced, because it is just a matter of making a decision on the provision of tanks and giving 14 tanks, well, you understand that it doesn't play

no role at all on the battlefield. but at the same time, i saw determination in the position of, for example, the german minister of defense to stand up, with whom i had a meeting , who said that we are taking a leading role in all the formations of this tank coalition it would help our partners to speed up these deliveries and to deliver them from their own landfills, including landfills, but all from one side. that is, i absolutely agree with you that everyone's rhetoric is like that, you don't know. that is, everyone is ready with words and not with actually for today today there are not those hundreds of tanks that were talked about and that we need them, but on the one hand, on the other hand, it is necessary to understand that the european army has actually been shrinking over the last 30 years

. intensity and there to say that now there are hundreds or thousands of tanks in the reserves , also, unfortunately, the process cannot be accelerated, and in particular, here is, er, hm , today’s meeting of kuleba and nato, the eu, it is also about , including, about this in order to speed up all processes and providing weapons of ukraine, by the way, with regarding military capabilities, at least on the territory of the european union, it is said that one of the topics of biden's visit to poland is actually the fact that american troops in poland should perhaps feel more regularly and permanently on the territory of this country, and their increase presence is also in the future, that is, for the time being, on the one hand, the reduction of the armies of the european union and the countries of the european union, what did you say to the united states of america,

understanding the threat from the russian side in particular federations decide to increase their presence on the territory of the european union countries, how does this correlate and most importantly, does this balance the situation? i said that in the last 30 years , they have been decreasing . to do from the 22nd to the 24th of february, they changed their strategy in general, they started to build up weapons and increased defense orders, increased defense budgets, but that’s it. well, it’s an inertial story . that is, we need to speed up the same production which was idle there for the last time or worked there at 10% capacity for the last decades, and that is why they are just now

engaged in these things, that is, they are increasing, increasing production, and not only equipment exists, which is also lacking even for us, not to mention there if we are talking about some a global war or there on the territory of the country about the presence of the united states in poland. i think that not only poland and all the countries that have a border with us, with belarus, with russia , they will gladly to support the increase in the contingent of american troops and american equipment, mr. igor, to you as the deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on national security , so we would like to ask you about reforms and changes in the ministry of defense, but they have just appointed two additional deputies to oleksiy reznikov , or can we generally say that the story of resignation or not, the transfer of oleksiy reznyakov from the position of minister of defense has already

been completed, and what fundamental changes will now take place in the ministry of defense, so far as far as i am concerned we know the issue of change is different, how is it not not on the agenda. but at the same time, the minister needs to earn homework, correct all these mistakes that have been accumulated over the last year, and for this, including changing the staff and for as far as i understand, the ministry of defense is becoming more open, as far as i understand, they are metaforming some kind of public control anti-corruption control from the public from the public sector in order to be as open as possible and not only for ukraine but also for our partners because we understand that it is extremely important for you to show that

we use funds effectively and do not get caught up in some such incomprehensible scandals, that is why the process is going on. i think that in the near future we will see the results of all this, thank you , thank you, mr. igor igor cherniv people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on national security, head of the verkhovna rada's permanent delegation to the nato parliamentary assembly, turning to the ministry of defense, the cabinet of ministers appointed messrs . deinega and shevchenko as deputy ministers of defense so this is tuyu, the founder of the fund will bring back alive vitaly deinegu appointed deputy minister of defense for issues of digital development, transformation of digitalization, former ambassador of ukraine to canada andriy shevchenko became deputy minister of defense for issues of european integration well, this morning oleksandr pavlyuk was recently chief of staff, deputy commander of the e-e of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine e.e. announced that he is taking up the post of first deputy minister

of defense of ukraine as well, i.e. in the ministry certain personnel changes are taking place, which should accordingly affect the quality of the work of this strategically important ministry during the war. well, we are moving on. and in connection with the geleva sad studio, for the expert of the georgian center for strategic analysis, we congratulate you . glory to ukraine. well, what would we like to ask you? about the armenians, so to speak, the azerbaijani peace plan, do you have a feeling that these countries can reach a certain understanding , a number of important meetings were held on this matter, a military company, and so far no agreement has been concluded like here in the caucasus it continues for regional players. it is clear that this is what i am talking about, and it is of great

importance especially for russia, which recently had a complete monopoly on the management of this candy. in the fall, in september, there was a request by the americans for the first time to reach a peace treaty, and practically , it was already a preliminary agreement . it was announced at a meeting in prague. the charm-mouse of the european union, however, it was literally torn down by vladimir putin in front of his eyes on live air, which , er, will be an ultimatum of the type of that kind of thing. then

it was called that a nominal contract was concluded. one position to the side was recognized by each other , and then, accordingly, it means that all other issues will be resolved. are in sat in the system krysta is already constantly supporting thanks to the greek actions of the whole people of ukraine categorically not hotyn russian is leaving the caucasus and that is until today as the night before, the people in armenia, azerbaijan have a chance for peace, i am practically sure that the kremlin is subject to maximum force in order to disrupt the peace plan. you

noted that russia does not want to take the specified location, but does this mean that it has the appropriate contingent there is still strength left to throw the russian one into the fire. i don't know whether to add oil to the fire or now . the best moment for azerbaijan and armenia to at least try to find some points of contact. is there any hope that this will take advantage of the weakened system so that armenia doesn't stay there , they solve armenia because it perfectly understands both political and military issues. well , russia uses them accordingly. это

невечение все равно dear sir, you have already mentioned the extremely important story of the lack of systemic weakening of russia in response. i would like to ask you about the prospects of systemic weakening of the regime of the president of turkey, recep tayyip erdoğan, in particular as a result of the huge and tragic earthquake that took the lives of tens of thousands of people, we understand that the situation in turkey is extremely difficult, and we understand that erdoğan is responsible for the earthquake, but we understand that his position may waver a little. is this really the case, let's start with the fact that a huge human tragedy occurred in turkey, a lot of people died, just yesterday there were still

tremors because you are watching elections, very serious elections do not happen, but sometimes the regime says that the regime is possible , of course, erdogan's position can be weakened, and most likely they are politically laborious , on the other hand, the trouble is that it brings people together, so this is what we will see, what will happen next do i need to forget about the fact that they did not drill on the fact that there is mass demand, this is the brazilian vampire of ukraine and turkey is the country that supplies ukraine with weapons, so for ukraine and now that downgrades for ukraine are useful to us. it is critically important for us that turkey be stable. everything is good in turkey. in fact, we would like turkey to be stable and strong, but the question is how much it will be like that in the present. i don't know in the next couple of months. you have on the one hand

of course, this is a very difficult test from the other side , i will say. so, after this test, they were happy, and early on, the aspect of people there is very pitiful. i think that we can say about ukraine. the truth is that the scale is much larger in ukraine than that so that everything is equal, that everything is also sufficiently large , that is, decide. выборы 11 is not possible on the other side of the order of 15 million - a huge number of people who are geometric . how can elections be held in such conditions ?

despite the fact that in turkey there is a stable state institution - this is a country that can withstand and what is not killed is what is done to the land, like they were preparing their own what is not a hobbit p siege for one last question, the last days of february in ukraine are e-e tragic dramatic in the connection in connection with our recent history in particular and often we invite our friends and partners to share these days with us and georgia should receive the same invitation it was sent to visit ukraine perhaps on the anniversary of the russian invasion on february 24 and i would like to now to quote a member of the ruling party, the georgian dream, irakliya, is from cancer, and he said, when high-ranking officials of ukraine call on our state to open a second front, when the prisoner saakashvili, who has many serious charges, is called

a political prisoner, i think that this does not leave places for diplomatic relations with me, this is the last sentence that uh, well, it stung , so to speak, because we are talking here not only about some specific visit, but in general about the perspective of our diplomatic relations between ukraine and georgia. how do you see this situation, please it means that it is real now, formally, nothing, the portrait of the so-called movement with the power of the people is a throwaway of the georgian dream , eh, such prophecies, which are the key to the right -wing party, you can tell them all kinds of nonsense, but the fact that they were standing on the radio with their dream, i still don’t believe in it it's good to understand such a thing that the purpose of the regions is the easiest to explain, that's how our authorities behave, because they are agents of the kremlin. well, they don't recognize each other somewhere, not the kremlin , er, here, although in essence the motivation does not

change. today, they really want to do business with russia, and to do it so that they don't interfere with the west, and so on, and once this is possible or saved , they are ready to throw away the simple relationship with ukraine, but also the european future of young georgia. it was announced to sell that i can even present it so that you see, if it weren’t for visa-free people, we would stay like this, people are leaving , that is, people are leaving us, people are leaving europe , people are staying with us, not because eh something bad in the country turns out to be because visa-free is a euro, well, it’s logical, i’m sorry, that’s okay, i’ll mark myself one more moment in georgia, they gathered eh, so, eh, to adopt the law of oby na agent with this all signals of recording

signals of large tons of brusoover what are you then ego if he presses on us, we are evil, your ears will freeze, but the slow ones are bad news , in fact, in fact, they are not very concerned about what we have there and how we have it there already washington and brussels and in and in ukraine is recognized as its closest partner top so from georgia tempole because the transit function we you could be adulterous schedules well what will be inside what will be inside their little you that is why i think that this happened to us again where we have to hope for the word of our society which is congratulating more only to the second, of course, we are compensated for this situation , we support our western partners again , thank you for the head of the garden, for the expert of the georgian center for strategic analysis , worked now live on the tv channel espresso well, we, together with khrystyna yatskiv we pass on the word to our colleagues yes khrystyna