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that initiates the next package of support for military support of ukraine, instead, france and , first of all, germany play a rather restraining role in these cases, the vice-shev of the polish ministry of foreign affairs noted in conversations by e- polish prime minister mateusz morawiecki also participated in the delegation of poland and the united states, and what is important is a kind of funny reaction from the kremlin. peskov said that putin will not watch biden's speeches in poland. he said that only putin will get acquainted with biden’s speech in the form of official documents and abbreviations, and so on. and now we will talk about why some global retailers still have to work on the territory of the russian federation, and how much money it brings to russia itself with us in

touch ihor burakovsky, chairman of the board of the institute of economic research and political consultations, we welcome you mr. ihor glory to ukraine i congratulate you as a hero glory what about the russian division of the french auchan chain of stores from the beginning of the full-scale the invasion of the russian federation into ukraine , supplied goods for the russian occupation forces, this is exactly what the joint investigation for insider leondet bellin cat in the french office of the company found out stores or something like eh, in general , it is possible to calculate, first of all, how much money such rather large companies actually bring to the russian federation and how it

actually transforms them. maybe even on the needs of your military-industrial complex well, you know, it is quite difficult to calculate because uh, this is uh, information that has such a semi-commercial nature , in principle, it should be collected and looked at by lists, but according to the estimates of individual ukrainian economists, if we are talking about aushan, i want to say once again, according to preliminary estimates, we can say that aushan in 2022 brought the budget of the russian federation somewhere around 95-99 million e-e million euros. there is also such a well-known firm that to some extent associated with ashan is leroy merlin, and this means the company leroy merlin, which in our country sells building materials and various household goods, it is estimated that it brought about 266 million euros to the budget of the russian federation. well, we also know the structure of metro, which is also actively represented in ukraine

somewhere around 90 million euros. that is, we see that this is very serious money, and it is serious money both for the russian budget and, of course, this indicates that these companies are not making much money in the russian federation, even under time of war, mr. igor, well, accordingly, i would like to ask you. and what do the parent companies say, so to speak, of their daughters who work, in particular, in the russian federation, or in general, is there a tough sanctions dialogue with them? well, because there were warnings, so to speak, from the our overseas allies, in particular, those companies that will help the russian federation to get out of the sanctions trap. well, it's a little different story, but still, in your opinion, is there enough pressure for that to happen let's say we thought about those companies that work in russia. well, let's be honest that

today if a company works in russia, yes, and it does not conduct direct activities under sanctions, that is, it does not supply weapons there, it does not supply any dual purpose goods , microchips, everything that directly strengthens the military-industrial complex, there are no such real legal grounds to bring this company to justice , we just have to admit it, and on the other hand , today more and more people are talking about that the company and practically all the same companies are auchan, the hero of merlibra, whom we talked about metro. they have on their websites the so-called codes of social responsibility , corporate social responsibility, and this is actually such a manifesto, where they say that they will respect human rights, they will communicate normally, and they will respect their own the relevant laws to fight corruption, well, that is, to behave as decent members of that society, that community where they

directly work and today is just right it is possible to expand these documents, to tell the word, the business itself should say it directly, that is, in principle , the idea is that today , at the expense of political pressure and pressure from consumers and pressure from civil society, to make such conditions when violation well, let's talk about moral and ethical norms, and in principle, support for war is actually support, er, rejection of all these er, corporate, social, very important things, it has transformed, loss of business reputation, loss of business reputation were directly transformed into monetary costs. this is a very, so to speak, complex construction. however, today it is very difficult to talk about very difficult to talk about any such specific things. on the other hand, it seems to me that we must now also consider whether it is possible, let's say , to create such certain well, let's call it blacklists for the company and

say if there will be companies from this family, but let's say not ukrainian companies, because they created this aushana to this day, there are no claims of any kind special background, today they directly help the armed forces of ukraine a lot, by the way, including the hospital and many other structures. they even have their own attacks . accordingly, the program means to make sure that these businesses then enter ukraine sufficiently . well, how to do this is a separate issue. and again, let's not forget that there really is such a specificity of its own, because today the brand is big, the same chance , let's say the same there, metro or another, this is actually the central headquarters, which is a lot how does it coordinate the activities of the relevant structural units in many cases, in this case, the units are actually separate companies that can work under a franchise, that is, by agreement, and in this case, even the central headquarters has certain

restrictions on, say, influencing those or other subdivisions in this regard as well. this is obviously a problem like the problem that i have already spoken about today. it lies largely in the moral and ethical plane. well, on the other hand , we should talk about the fact that the european union, calling on other countries to support ukraine and impose sanctions, he must himself prove the order of his companies, he must himself conduct appropriate investigations, which are not without end, then no longer political things, such as here if we found a really direct violation of the sanctions legislation or found some , let's say, hints of a criminal nature regarding the support of russian armed aggression then it is necessary to take the case to court, and in the end, if there are such court verdicts, i think that this will have a significant effect before various kinds of discussions and appeals

let's be honest, let's not support the aggressor, mr. igor, are there any studies being conducted on how ukrainians react to, or at all, do they identify brands that so far mainly decide for themselves not to leave the russian federation there , its market, do we have something like sanctions at the level of people or do we stop we finance these companies with our own hryvnia. i think that such sanctions exist. i just remember a lot of research that was conducted from 15-16 years , that is, in fact, from the first years of russian aggression against ukraine, and a significant number ukrainians looked at the barcodes looked at all these and tried to avoid avoiding russian products today we can talk about the fact that russian products are actually disappearing from ukrainian networks , there is such a specific phenomenon, you know, that is, on the one hand, there are networks where you can go and see what is happening directly there lies what is being sold on the other side, today e-commerce is developing very strongly e-

commerce and so unfortunately, through the channels of e-commerce, a large the number of different kinds of goods, including i will not say under sanctioned goods, but goods that are produced in white, goods that are directly produced in ukraine, and this is just as it seems to me an example of when a certain part it is difficult for me to say which part of ukrainians it is e well, maybe for economic reasons he wants to buy the corresponding cheap goods, but it is clear that this is unacceptable, and by and large we must be an example for our partners if we demand tough sanctions from them . therefore, obviously, we must fully recover from this all russian from this belarusian mr. igor and as in general we have an internal sanctions policy well and in general european in relation to the satellite countries belarus is not the only one. so to speak , the russian federation is fed. there is also north korea and certainly not only them in us

somehow the process is moving in this direction today it looks like the following, it is somewhere close starting from october to november e last year the european unions, not only the european union, our main international partners talk about the so-called mechanism of secondary sanctions, that is, if a company is found, for example, from somewhere, well, let’s tentatively call it north korea, without any other country that helps the russian federation, impose sanctions , then against this country, against this campaign , appropriate restrictions may be introduced. well, so far , we do not have any such we will wait for examples of such vector sanctions, so we will wait for the first point. well, the second point is something with big problems. nevertheless , the european union today made a decision , to put it very simply, that aid was bypassed in the course of sanctions in order to actually undermine this very european unity, it is not

only european democratic unity in terms of economic punishment of the russian federation that will now be considered a criminal offense and now it remains only to wait when there will be the first trials , not even verdicts. and when there will be the first accusations, i think that the more there will be such criminal proceedings , the first criminal proceedings, they will have to be celebrated, this will determine that we are moving to a new stage of the introduction of sanctions and the main thing is the realization of their implementation. yes, and accordingly. i would like to ask you. where is the world sanctions system possibly not working? yes, at one time, about a year ago, everyone promised us everything . on which we would like to say, but in any case we did not see a collapse either and the reason for everything is that some

additional mechanisms are involved on the part of one or another. i do not know in the arab countries, maybe on the part of china but what do you think is wrong? let's start from the very beginning. i think that in principle those who expected that the russian economy would crumble . when nothing works, the trains don't run, and the cars don't run. issued well, they issued the desired, uh, they issued the desired for the real, or so he said, yes, that’s why it obviously doesn’t work. if we speak in general, the influence of the sanctions is also the russian federation and uh , the leaders of the russian federation say that the sanctions are legitimate, they take away our the money is there, well, in short, let's lift the sanctions, let's introduce ourselves normally, and this recognition at the highest political level is why the sanctions work, the month of january showed big problems in the russian budget, now let's wait for the data already directly for february and

march. i think that precisely the sanctions are the tools you know gradually accumulates in the organism of the russian economy and of course creates corresponding problems sanctions do not work as quickly as we would like but nevertheless, they still work if we speak in general here you understand that this is the traditional situation. it is a traditional situation. we would say that it corresponds to the current stage of globalization of the world of economic relations. there are approximately 54 countries , organizations that introduce international sanctions against the russian federation, and for these countries today it is very important, first of all. to punish those companies that are from their territories, so to speak. unfortunately, i am trying to repel those sanctions, there is a problem, so to speak, and on the other hand, to conduct diplomatic work with those third countries that may not be politically supportive the russian federation, but for economic reasons they trade perfectly with the russian federation

, this is already a question, in fact, that these 50-4 allies of ours have to work accordingly with the other 50 ukraine, and we are among them very difficult partners for sanctions cooperation let's say china and let's say india, this is a really big problem. and here it is already necessary to use some other mechanisms , maybe look for some such point instruments of action - this is already the case, you know, i would say a lot in why is the accounting audit on work? in this sense, there is really a big problem. well, in general, i think that we simply have to implement the sanctions that have already been introduced to date. we must adhere to them . we must expand them. we must spread them . well, of course. ukraine must show how it adheres to the sensational regime. well, and also take into account certain features, including european

legislation. prohibitions if sanctions are introduced against me, for example, i can be sued in the european legal system and this must also be taken into account. that is, it is not an action automatically , it does not work, you know, in the regime of such an extraordinary commission, the commissioner came from had now said everything, we will now live differently, on the contrary we will not cooperate, these are also legal and political realities. thank you, mr. igor. igor burakovsky, the chairman of the board of the institute of economic research and political consultations, worked now live on the espresso tv channel. well, in the studio for you working khrystyna yatskiv burkovskyi and the all street journal shares with us information from informed sources that beijing says it wants to play a more active role aimed at ending the conflict, and people familiar with xi jinping's travel plans said that the meeting with putin will be part of a push for multilateral

peace talks and will allow china to repeat its calls for nuclear weapons not to be used. this is a direct quote from the material of the publication. in fact, we are talking about what the chinese leader is planning in the coming months. to visit moscow for a meeting at the highest level with the president of russia vladimir putin well, the agreement on the visit is at an early stage and the terms have not yet been determined , the interlocutors of the edition note. the outbreak of the war in ukraine, i quote jaykasally, she is attacking russia, there is a certain absurdity, because russia is under some kind of military threat from ukraine or someone

another well, let us remind you that today putin delivered a message to the federal assembly on the eve of the anniversary of the large-scale russian invasion of ukraine. well, according to his favorite habit, he once again blamed someone for the entry of neo-nazis into ukraine, and so on and so on. well, he promised to continue hostilities , and putin also said that in case of delivery of long-range missile systems to ukraine, russia will continue to feel the threat from russian borders, such as the efi of antina's time. i think it is worth talking about quite symptomatic possible things, and maybe now our next guest will explain my thesis about this symptomatology. it is about the fact that the international olympic committee is still, let's say, considering the possibility of allowing the participation of russians and belarusians in the 2024 olympics under neutral flags . it will be held in france, the most interesting

thing is that the french government also 29 countries call on the international olympic committee to remove athletes from russia and belarus from participating in the games in paris due to problems with the clarity of their neutrality, so to speak with the studio zhan beleniuk, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on youth and sports, zhanna, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes , i also congratulate you, governments, hmm , what about me? wasn't someone's participation in the competition decided not at the level of governments? it has the right to exist only from the point of view that , in general, sports organizations of this level really should not be dictated, their activities

should not be dictated by any politics, but this a utopian idea, we understand that in 2023, well, it looks a little strange, 30 countries are opposing the international olympic committee has not yet decided what to expect, how the situation is developing with your eyes, with your eyes, the situation is developing in such a way that the international olympic committee is now trying to invent something and under some kind of sauce, after all to push this story. i just know that they have to have an executive committee of the international committee. it seems that on the 12th or 15th it was postponed to next month , that is, they are currently in the council of the development of some approach that will enable them in some form acceptable, we understand, for the russian federation to solve this issue, your inner feeling is how

big is the pro-russian lobby in certain structures of the international olympic committee, i cannot make a professional statement about it of the existing lobby. i am sure that it is there because it is everywhere for sure, and given the habit of the russian federation to corrupt and influence e-e by various methods on some processes. i think that international workers definitely not an exception in this context . you noted that, most likely, formats will be sought in the near future if the russian federation itself could at least take part in the olympic games . what formats could these be? well, that is, apart from the neutral flag , what is currently opposed by so many countries, what else it can be , well, hypothetically, there can be various

options. that is, there even athletes without so-called stateless athletes perform at the olympic games under the banner of the international olympic committee simply here i understand that he is looking for a balance between the international physics schools and what hypothetically can be acceptable for the lion's share of the states that will be eh who are not happy with what is happening from the other side so that it is accepted directly by the leadership of the russian federation, which in any case will approve, well, bless athletes to participate or not participate in one or another olympic games, because of course, if we consider - we will consider the situation when athletes will have to publicly condemn

the activities of the kremlin, of this bloody war, of course, no one from russia is sending their athletes to the olympic games because, for them, it is exactly where they see it, here you are. you yourself said that you heard putin's message today, and you see that there is a parallel reality of people, all of them are trying to somehow humiliate and undermine their state, both from the outside and from the inside . it's not worth looking for adequacy there. that's it. everything mr. zhanna would like to ask you the international olympic committee would imagine, for example, a meeting between the olympic team of ukraine and the olympic team of the aggressor country, taking into account the fact that it would perform under the so-called neutral flag, they generally imagine such

mechanisms. and you know, they imagine them very simply, and by the way representatives of ukraine , they give reason to imagine this situation and now they refer to examples of the game of representatives of ukraine with representatives of russia , but under a neutral flag at various tennis tournaments, we see not only cases when representatives of the tennis uh, you're ours, too, tennis players are currently playing, they shake hands, they don't show the number of uh-uh courtesies, but or there respect uh-uh friend of a friend but nevertheless, the game is going on and thomas bach has already declared about it his to what he said, well, if tennis players can play, why are there conventionally speaking in portions? it is possible to ask why russian tennis players still play in tournaments, this is the first question. well, and the second question, can ukrainian tennis players

and other athletes of other sports? i don’t i know how to carry out a certain kind of demash in case the russians take part in the competition regarding the march. i understand that it is at the discretion of each tennis player and, for sure, the federation . well, what kind of tennis. by the way, there was a certain request on the extraordinary assembly of the national alpine committee regarding the fact that the president of the city of the national library wanted to ask questions about why they are doing this and the position of directly listening to the representatives of the national federation of big tennis, but unfortunately there was no representative. therefore, i was not informed his answer to this and about how we live now and about why the bridge from russia is playing, well, this is the brotherhood

of the federation of the international tennis federation, that is , it accepted this kind of recommendation of the international olympic committee, that is , they will not completely eliminate athletes from by the russian federation and belarus and they simply allow them under a neutral flag and they have the right to join international sports in this way . a strange story, on the one hand, we understand that 30 countries appeal to the international olympic committee, in particular france itself, which is supposed to host the olympics, on the other hand, we understand that 30 countries - this is a lot and we understand that it is not enough to understand that the history is, so to speak , about the full-scale attack of the russian federation on ukraine, the destruction of civilians , civilian objects objects and so on, it flew all over the world. and why is there such passivity on the part of other states of 30 countries? that is, it is a lot and a

little. you know it, if we, as ukrainians, we could see all these troubles coming from the side of our, so to speak, opponent who attacked our country and is currently committing terrorist acts here and killing the civilian population and so on and so forth and other countries, especially the athletes from these countries, by the way, who have not been, do not know what russian aggression is, because the representatives of the country who know what russian aggression is, they relate to it in a different way, that's why we see such, let's say so, support

from the polish side of the country, and so on and so forth similar, but for those who have not encountered, well, these are problems, we say, is there any other state, let them decide there, and they do not delve into the nuances and realities of this war, for sure, there we have what we have , er, another reflection on the fact that mog declares that not non-governments, not the positions of governments, will be decisive in the general decision to admit or not to admit russians and belarusians under the neutral flag. well, if not the governments , then who, the national olympic committees , should do this or who should engage in this work and whether there have already been relevant appeals i'm sorry, i just didn't follow up. well, here it's just about what, uh, if according to the alpine charter of the international committee , you said, well, you said that they do not allow issues to interfere in their

activities at all. there are some state institutions. and of course, they perceive the statements of governments as a certain pressure on oneself, uh, well, this can be considered as a certain manipulation , but it is mounted on those positions that are really prescribed in the olympic charter, when it is profitable, they reach out and say well, we, we, we understand everything, but we will be here ourselves to figure it out, that is, we have an executive committee, we have a copper er, well, representatives of other committees . we have a national committee, there are some committees, and this is directly the official subject of communication er, from the state with an unknown political committee, the national olympic committee is the ministry, not the president said not the prime minister and so on, that is, there is a direct structure that must

deal with this and must defend the position of those states. the council on youth and sports worked live espresso why on electricity generators in the current hour you dropped another 10,000, this is a very good result and we can completely complete this collection, we can literally today, about 12,000 more and the matter is solved, as they say. so join the gathering in your corner on the screens, you will see a qr-code by which you can make a donation well, antin and i will say goodbye to you in half an hour, you will go to the espresso tv channel , another historic speech of the president will be broadcast joseph biden this time from warsaw 6:30 p.m. watch espresso president biden will speak mother at this speech we have the verdict