[000:00:00;00] than with us, it's as if it's already for the fourth so that the parents take their heads and don't know what to do. that's for sure here, only they, uh, they learn the letters uga , that is, the whole year they only write letters and count within ten, that's all, but my son, he's with you . he doesn't walk. now he is still in kindergarten to school, and my son is older than me, and he is older, he is in the fourth grade, and on the contrary , he is doing very well. he was supposed to study in the fourth grade for two years, but he miraculously passed the exams very well. and now the question is whether he is in the fifth grade translate because well, the next level because in general, children here repeat two years ago, because they learn the language and all children repeat for two years, but they still give tests, he passed the test, so he should be transferred to the fifth grade, oh yes. well,

he has a certain one from his mother from me but he didn't know german anymore. did you teach him before that? it was great, just because of that, tell me the whole milk, but at the austrian school they provide food for the children. do you have any lunch boxes with you to provide them? schools and school until 12 o'clock it's free but if you do you want your child to be on an extended day, then you will have to pay but you can submit a request that you cannot pay or you have some when your salary level for the family is lower than the minimum, then the state pays for it and now i have submitted a lot of documents for the next school, there are schools in different places, that is, a junior school - one building, a high school, another, i submitted the documents and there will be an extended day for free, and food and a teacher will be

free, that's great. and tell me exactly you mentioned the level of wages in general, what is it like in austria, well, of course , it depends on the person, but the minimum wage is 1,500 €, but you will receive maybe a thousand euros, only taxes are taken into account, so yes, that is, they count here , of course 1,500 salary, but the taxes are very high there and you will receive somewhere around 1,000, but for this thousand euros, if you and your husband work and you both have a thousand euros each, you will live and you will be completely enough for everything, and if you are alone with children and if one with children, then you need more if you don't because you are only for it you'll pay a thousand for an apartment, you understand, that's why if you're alone, you need to think about something else by the way, you've moved now from

an austrian family, tell us this story why did you have to move and you rent housing under your own code as far as i understand, we succeeded to move because well, first of all, i myself thought of moving because somehow we can't live with people, you know. we can't live forever, that is , it was somehow inconvenient for me. that's it. but maybe i dragged and dragged, but they decided to sell this hiv and that's why we they had to leave us in six months i was warned that they were selling there, and then i started looking for an apartment . and there are a lot of ukrainians here. i just wrote everywhere to everyone that i was looking for an apartment. and i didn’t have a job at the time , it was such a move, and i found an apartment for free

on a year, that is, this year i can not pay for it, and in a year we will see, this is an austrian offer, so they offer uh, in austria they offered well, because they want to help, in fact, for me. um let's say to lie that they are all for ukraine, the country is somewhat divided and sometimes they support both the russians and putin directly. but have you personally felt any such negativity or everything is directly as positive as possible, well, i have a very positive experience, i saw austrians who, uh, say that it is ukraine's fault that it must surrender because and everything is like that. it is like that, but i only saw that somewhere in the facebook comments

at the most, or maybe i was so lucky, i was lucky because i never met anyone who would be against ukraine on the contrary here i live in this house now, all the neighbors when we arrived well, i have a suitcase of things, but here apartments are given without furniture and they just said write a list what do you need and just a-ah one austrian family, they were renovating the nursery, they gave us all the nursery furniture, books, clothes, just me, two rooms at once, there were circumstances, uh, what’s more, the furniture is in good condition, and uh, well, i even saw an austrian who walked there with ukrainian symbols of some kind, that is, i personally have never once encountered any negativity, it’s nice, maybe their thought changes to ours

side more well, austria helps, of course, we won't a-a say that it doesn't exist and you are also an example of that, but the locals sometimes behaved differently, but it's very nice to hear such good reviews, please tell us how you found a job a-a job i found here when we arrived a volunteer girl who helped us and now she works in an organization that, er, deals with helping ukrainians, and she er, well , i said that i was looking for a job there too. after 10 years, she brought me to her home, but there are jobs there if it wasn't but i just started there to walk how, how, i don’t know, not clients, just as a visitor to the home - this is a volunteer organization, yes, to the city , this is a volunteer organization, this is a charity organization

founded by ukrainian girls who have lived here in vienna for more than 10 years, and they simply did not know how to help at the beginning of the war . they went they helped everyone, met them, settled them, but then they realized that something more needed to be done and you did not establish a home, and i came to them and said i want to work. maybe you have some place and at first i worked with them on a volunteer basis, that is, i i wrote some texts to them, just like that, and then she appeared when the funding was more , she already started to work. and where did the austrians get the funding from? support for ukrainians and hence the funding, yes. and what does this charitable organization in which you work do? that is, they collect a-- some humanitarian

funds there or military ammunition, or they arrange work for ukrainians and refugees who come to austria, yes, rather third, we have an organization that helps you integrate and stop surviving and start living because when you arrive you are in such a state of shock that you start to survive and you don't know what to do when you come home and that's why she it's called a home, you can just breathe out and relax there, uh, such a problem, for example, children on your head . yes, you're still here. when you get there, well, no. these children go to kindergarten. you don't know where to go. you don't know the language. you come to the home - it's a big ukrainian community. where with your children they will play, they will occupy them with something, they will do art, for example, or do some tinkering. and you can get

advice about a job, for example, how to find it, you can make a resume according to the rules, so it will help you translate everything, do this, you need to do this, they will tell you the first steps in general what to do, and we also have a lot of such directions that simply support the morale of a person , for example, art therapy, work with therapeutic mac cards, maybe you know then psychologists, meetings with psychologists regularly, well that is, we are engaged in such things that can help both psychologically and at the same time help to get a job. maybe if you do not know the language in particular , you can write a resume . you can contact anyone .

important information, yes, this is for women and children, there were 13 cirkusgasy street, yes , you need to make an appointment in advance , call or you can just come at any time, yes, you need to make an appointment because we have events, of course, there maybe no one can be at the address a-a we have a phone channel this is the name of the home so-so so-so and there you can see all the announcements, reviews, ask something, make an appointment thank you for this information, i think it will be useful for our refugees who are in austria, i will voice some statistical data regarding the fact that initially the full-scale invasion of the official registered more than 90,000 ukrainians in austria who have temporary protection austria, like other countries of the european union, we have already canceled so partially provides

free housing or extension to an austrian family or some kind of social housing that they have available regarding the payment is interesting here if you are accommodated in organized places to live, then you are covered for all living expenses, they provide food or money for groceries, you can also receive help for clothes 150 euros per person per year and pocket money up to 40 € per person per month, and for those who live in a private apartment, in addition to housing subsidies, you can receive financial support for adults 215 € for minors 100 euros per month, this and the subsidy for clothing is also 150 euros per person per year, but due to the increase in the cost of living, a one-time payment of 500 euros per adult and 250 euros for

a child was introduced in october . that’s right. 215 is now already 265 and for a child there is 100 165 if you are officially employed or not no if you are employed then you already live at your own expense but here in austria social benefits are very well developed social benefits are developed that is, if you have any minimum wage, you come and say i can't pay for school there or even utility bills or something else, but it's not available to everyone , it's necessary to consult, because for example, if you've lived in ukraine for less than a year in austria, it's not available to you , for example, we recently received

er climate bonus is money for a bad climate er us 1,000 € payment for a family with such a climate i was in austria once only in vienna i didn't notice anything like that yes yes this uh i don't know this i think the climate very good but everyone is paid this money once a year, but you have to live for a certain period in austria. and we have already lived there since march 3 , here, and it was already paid to us. and those who came earlier still have to wait a little, i also listened to them the amount, if i'm honest, it's 500 euros per adult and 250 per child, well, it's quite a lot of money, even within the framework of austria, it's not advertising at all, everything is paid , and hair was paid to ukrainians in the past, shall we call months, and if you have a job and housing you have a social

yes, you can or not, then you will be deprived of social housing here, in fact, austria is not very eager to give social housing to people, ah , there is very little social housing, hmm , it is very difficult to get into it. for people, yes, if possible, someone still wants to leave for austria, you can find housing, but it is from the austrians, not from the state. it is easier from the state, it is very difficult, and there , if you live in social life, you cannot work, only you start working. you already i have to go from there, ah, ah, from the austrians. yes, you already live, well, it’s just such an agreement between the austrians . and you signed some kind of contract because, well , if you turn out to be a bad person, you can take out the furniture or you don’t have it. and you said that there is

almost everything without furniture, it seems like you won’t be able to take out the walls, you can’t take out anything here without furniture, but we agree, of course , this is a very bureaucratic uh-uh country, i ’ve already had such a stack of documents of various kinds in a year of living here, both in electronic form and in printed form and all this all must to be documented and signed by all imaginable authorities, tell me, here are the products in austria, here we found out that housing is quite expensive, you said that for approximately €1,000 you can rent an apartment directly in vienna, and i understand that it is not in the center, yes, vienna, yes. i don't live in the center. well , you live for free. i'm just saying. my apartment costs around €1,000. i asked how much they paid, well, it's with the utility company, it's with the utility company, that is, it's for everything. and the products , tell us the prices for meat, bread, dairy

products there, are they significantly different from ours ranks well, with the fact that in ukraine there is now a very strong increase. yes, it is true, so i will guide you. well, in austria there was also a very large increase. if i went there in march and bought myself a large bag of products, this is i had 30 €. now it will already be 50 €. that is, the prices in the store have risen very significantly here, but you buy this bag and it is enough for a week. that is, maybe you will buy more there. that is, i can’t compare much now, but two thousand hryvnias. well, i will say that we have well. not uah 2,000, of course, but so for 5 days a week, looking at what products but if we don't take

any delicacies there, but just meat and dairy products , some cereals and so on well, on average , uah 1000 will still work out, that is, after all , it is more expensive in austria, but it is twice as expensive here the prices have almost increased, if it's so rude to say so yes it's much more expensive here, of course, but you know that the most expensive thing here will be the most expensive thing here, eh , human labor yeah, uh, why, you know, when i heard before that in europe, somehow, materially more it's simpler and i understand it now because here uh, well the salary is such that you can basically buy anything you want, even for a minimal amount. in principle, there is no problem. there are very cheap clothes here , you can buy them for free .

people give you the equipment you want there, but the work of a person, your time, is highly valued, and for example, i bought a printer for myself . because here everything needs to be printed, the printer costs 70 €, and the installation of the printer - 76 € . that's right, this kind of work is not bad here in ukraine is really not very appreciated and in general, people in the service sector receive much lower wages and salaries, so it’s still interesting to fly well, i know that tomorrow in vienna, as in many capitals of european countries, not only european ones, there will be actions in support of ukraine against putin against the russian federation of their invasion of our territory against the war, do you usually take part in such actions? and in general, how can you

describe the ukrainian community in austria? it is a big community, and i participate more in those events organized by the home. these may be some kind of charity events. there may be evenings and hmm, there we collect some donations. but in the events that are held. we also participated , but not very often here, in some constantly, the children got sick, then something else happened, but we came somewhere five or six times, we took part in rallies, and so many people came, especially i, um, sent you a photo. yes, where after buchi, there were uh, rallies and it was probably the most difficult rally because then everyone was crying, it was just snowing, raining, it was cold, but people were lying on the floor imitating the photo and

it was just very short, they can see it on the screens now, it is exactly the same rally after we found out some horrors . in the buchan district, there is no mine left. but bucha. tomorrow you will also leave, mrs. alevtyna. and tomorrow, as if my son is ill , and i, uh, don’t know how to leave him alone. work at home, but in addition, ukrainians are seen some meetings arrange some kind of such a-a communication maybe more brilliant or not so you know here you can simply live and communicate only in ukrainian and here ukrainians simply

communicate in ukrainian a lot i lived in dnipro this city is more russian-speaking here i communicate in ukrainian more than in dnipro honestly that's why that there are actually a lot of events organized by ukrainians for ukrainians and for me it's so nice because you can go here, for example, girls , bloggers have organized there, they have some kind of meeting there, they make a wish map last time they did something like that there, two book clubs communicate in one of them, i, uh, i attend one of them, but the two book clubs are, by the way, about books, you are a writer, i understand that you have your main job at home now, but maybe you now is the time for inspiration to work on a new book. so, i am currently writing my second book and i am also writing short stories. i

have more novels about the war. you know how it is. therapy is probably coming out. the book is not about the war, but it is more about m-m about choosing yes between life and death, and perhaps also the third way, it is so much more mystical, but because you live in such a situation when there is a war around you, i do not rule out that there will be something about the war in this book, because the impressions are formed precisely from these events that us now they are surrounded by your short stories about the war, and you here are your impressions, your emotions. is it possible to communicate with people who have experienced some horrors ? and there are also people who have their impressions, like me, at home you constantly meet people whose

situations were very different from the most - so simple situations to the most terrible, so people from mariupol left, that is, you can see the heart. of course, there is such a very sensitive person and it all comes up, and of course you write about various experiences . i don't know if it's the armed forces of ukraine or maybe it's the national guard , you can tell me more precisely and directly. he was studying. how did you write to me to be an operator of the air defense forces? please tell me in more detail whether he has already finished his studies or he is already working eh no, he is still studying right now they are there somewhere eh not far from the orcs i won't say where that's why he

doesn't get in touch they didn't take away their phone ah and well, in principle, that's all, that is, it's like this you know the moment when he was taken away. well, he left by himself, and besides that, you just call him whenever you want, and now i probably felt alone for the first time in my entire life, some kind of loneliness appeared here because you can't just call him whenever you want how you accepted the husband's decision to leave in general to defend the homeland and in particular not or over us a-a he is such a person for me, a very big patriot in our family he speaks ukrainian although i am from a russian-speaking family and but he always spoke his series in ukrainian a - and when there was maidan, he was eager to go, i didn’t let him go simply because i tell

you, what kind of a child is the maidan, and now, in the first days of the war, he wanted to go to the defense, to the territorial defense, but there we had so many in the dnipro volunteers who simply didn't get in. that's why he hasn't been there for a long time now i went because you already know it as such well, i don’t know the new level, but he has a lot of military friends, just a lot . for some reason, he just happened to have friends from the anti-terrorist operation and they offered him a place for an air defense operator. where is he? who is he? by profession ah he is a lawyer by profession but he didn't work as a lawyer he uh he has fields he is a farmer he grows corn there wheat all that is very cool farming in ukraine flourished especially before the start of a full-scale invasion and we know that

ukraine is one of export leaders cultured, but hmm, i wonder, in fact, you couldn’t refuse. did you not want to refuse, did you accept his choice calmly? still, emotionally, i accept everything calmly, i knew that it would happen sooner or later, that’s why i said that it was your choice and you and in principle, if you either tikidish or you will be taken away, there is no such thing here. you know that you have to somehow hide there because there are men who hide there and do not leave the house or something. he has traveled all over ukraine for work, just the whole war and never once there no one took it. please tell me whether

are you planning to return to ukraine and under what conditions, and of course to return if it is already safe there, in fact, now i don’t want to go there because the house we had in tokmak is occupied. to the apartment that was rented out and now of course, if you come back, you need to look for an apartment again, look for school there , do everything completely, what work, and that's why i have such a very difficult question now, but my husband will definitely not leave ukraine. well, as i said, he is very big the patriot of ukraine loves very much and that's why i'm sure i'll return to my husband, but for now i can't plan anything because it's so suspended , suspended, such a state when you don't know what will happen tomorrow and it's hard for me to plan anything

. and you are missing the connection of the family the most. well, maybe my dnieper. i lived near the dnieper and it was very important for me to meet the sun setting, for example, like this or there with children. we always walked there. it is often not enough to go somewhere near the water and spend time with this and that. and you came to ukraine already in time. when you left to see your husband, was there such an opportunity? no, there was not. because, again , two children and to drag them through i have some painful memories of these borders and all these things, and we never went to austria. the children will say goodbye to their home. maybe this

is also the reason why there is a certain psychological adaptation necessary , you know, at the beginning, children in general they didn't ask and everything was fine with them. that is, somewhere i don't know the first half a year there. i was even surprised because it was as if that's how we left the war. but it seems to me that the children, um , i preserved their psyche. i had such a childhood and here it is. only now, somewhere from september , it has already started. and when dad comes, especially my daughter, it has already started from every day, when the war is already over and, er , the man is on training, er, on training in the area, he won some kind of competition in them there were training he won i say amir's dad

he won there, she says oh, class, let’s go home, he thought that he had defeated all of russia , god grant that it should happen. we thank all our defenders for defending us, driving the russian invaders out of our land, we all want this to happen as soon as possible. but in thank you very much for joining the program , the refugees told their story. how are you living in austria? i wish us all the fastest victory, success , a happy life and a return home, of course , but you are on zumayanyan, a writer , a copywriter, was my guest today and told us her story, how she left the dnipro with her children, how she now lives in austria, i put a full stop on this and hand over the floor to serhii rudenko. thank you, angelika. literally