[000:00:00;00] we are late or hasty with our conclusions and sometimes we do not understand god's providence is god's providence that directs both soldiers and civilians in battle that makes it possible to understand the meaning of those sacrifices and those great losses lies in the awareness of freedom , the value of a person, all that was inherent to our ancestors as the highest value of human life. ukrainians are freedom-loving people who never give in under pressure or under any manipulation that they are building to trade with their own land, they will trade with their own conscience, not to trade

they will communicate with their own values ​​until the enemy crosses the border and the fact that the border can be crossed was obvious, it was also clear the power of the mind and wisdom of the ukrainian people that, in principle , outwardly understanding all the risks, understanding to a certain extent and the government that tried to the last to delay direct armed aggression because, in principle, you know that as long as the soldiers do not speak, the diplomats communicate, and for me , the determining factor for this year is not even the one-year statute of limitations, but the munich conference, which took place in 2022 in the 21st year and the munich conference that took place in 21-22, in fact, in 21-22, and that rector's speech, which was heard by the whole world that gathered in munich at

the 21st security conference, warned russia not to cross the red line because they understood that if such a machine were to go forward , it would be impossible to stop it with civilized, diplomatic, secular westerners, and the tarator was watching. today, i believe that, unfortunately, it is best covered in the ukrainian media space, in particular, this performance kamila haris, the prosecutor, was what, who today represents the united states, the state department. it was a statement of a verdict and a sentence not for russia as a country, but for the russian government as an institution, as for individual people for committing the most heinous crimes in the current century, or the current development of civilization , for which people have already been punished fascism was brought to justice, and after reading her report, she gave a direct indication

that the civil world in ukraine is stopping the onslaught that destroys everything that destroys the foundations of the development of the values ​​of rights and freedoms person and citizen, and in the way that russia managed to do, the world will give a single, united answer, which will end with bringing to criminal responsibility in international institutions all those who started this war. the second aspect that inspires me is the unceasing vital energy of ukrainians. in those areas that are being vacated and it is visible in kyiv , it is visible in cities and villages, this is the solidarity of people , i do not remember a single case when we asked someone for help in lviv

, kherson, kharkiv or chernihiv and people did not responded that is, we have acquired a completely different quality as a nation and you must now formalize it in some new in the new paradigm after the military system of ukraine why i will now say a perhaps not very popular thing uh it is that if the war ends tomorrow and we leave even to the borders of 1991, in fact, the risks and challenges for the ukrainian state, for the citizens of each and every one, in particular, they will not disappear anywhere, that is , i warn against the fact that in my feelings and the seen constructions of the world, in fact , the victory that we will achieve will only become the beginning of another struggle, another format, other efforts and intentions that will be necessary for the formation of ukrainian society, which will have completely different foundations, completely different

ideology, completely different principles of cooperation of society in the struggle to further strengthen the achieved results of independence, freedom, because the world is a cynical world , it is moving in in its direction , economic, social, ecological, financial competition is growing, and we will have to confirm and strengthen our state and sovereignty andrii melnyk many times over and over again the diplomat of the deputy minister of foreign affairs of ukraine exceptionally and with full authority sent ukraine to germany on the 14th of the 22nd, mr. andriy, let's start with the main intrigue of tomorrow's position of china, as it has now become known, in particular, the representative of china at the un, chand jun, said that it will not be a peace plan, but rather

it will be the position of china. as for this war, it is the same unian again, on the one hand, if you start reading this news, you will be a little put off because everyone was worried that this peace plan might not be in favor of ukraine but further if to read into the quotes of the representatives of china, it becomes a little um, uh, a little not so calm, on the one hand, china emphasizes that it will continue to respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of countries, and they emphasize it, uh, on the other hand, china is starting to push a little, so to speak, accusations of intends to supply weapons for the war against ukraine, eh, this is all manipulation by nato and the usa, and it’s also not entirely bad, but then, as the speaker of the ministry of foreign affairs said at the briefing, i congratulate you , wanbin, and beijing calls on nato to stop to smear china with unsubstantiated speculations about ukraine, to abandon the old mentality of the cold war, which focuses on the zero-sum game and the confrontation of military blocs, and to stop

inciting confrontation, this plan also noted that the united states, a nato country, is the largest source of weapons on the battlefield in ukraine, how to perceive and do you understand these statements because , on the one hand, territorial integrity is confirmed, and on the other hand , there are still such direct hints that the russians very often say that this is what nato said and the usa is fueling the conflict with these weapons , and putin generally says that it was nato that started this aggression. good evening, mr. vitaliy. us, we see that, well, at least the aggression of russia towards ukraine is considered by the chinese government, first of all, in the context of this, well, even this is not

a global confrontation, but i would call it such a strategic competition, in the format of the format of international relations and in in principle, there is nothing new here, if er, to be honest, you don’t have to make it sound really , we were interested to hear what kind of plan it is, what ideas it is, because, well, it is obvious that ukraine is interested in the fact that every state in the world, whether it is small states or it is such er more powerful er nations like the people's republic of china have contributed to the cessation of this aggression for us . as of today e

so far, nothing new has been heard for us, er, we have seen that er, china still supports the main thesis that international law must respect territorial integrity, sovereignty - these are the foundations of our modern world order, and china confirms them. that is, this in principle, this is good news, and for us there is one important thing about it, if indeed the chinese government, if the official stream is interested in stopping this war, stopping aggression , because, well, it causes damage, obviously, as well china's interests, which are both global economic the power of uh definitely loses from the fact that this stability trade trade routes they are under threat that is they uh they do not

help china to increase prosperity so for us, one thing that is important in this story is whether the chinese government will really be willing to influence influence the kremlin influence to putin to the russian leadership to stop this war until today we have not felt such a willingness, with one possible exception , a few months ago, and you remember there were statements from china, this happened during of the visit of the german chancellor to beijing about the fact that china warns against the use of nuclear weapons, it was, in principle, such an interesting, very interesting plot for us, because all of us , especially our western partners, still feel that the risk of using technical nuclear weapons it is. it is a low risk . however, we cannot rule it out, and therefore, at this stage, the task of

all the nuclear powers of the world, and it is not only the united states, great britain, france , who gave us guarantees according to the budapest memorandum and then according to unilateral statements, but so are china and china. i would like to remind the dear listeners and viewers that he also gave ukraine his unilateral assurances. well , we have too many guarantees that ukraine's sovereignty and integrity will be protected in connection with the transfer of ukraine's nuclear arsenals, therefore this element is important for us. is china really taken seriously and will china use this tragedy that has been happening for over a year now? on the territory of our country to use in the context of its opposition to the competition with the so-called collective action

by the united states of america and other states, that's why i say i would neither exaggerate nor underestimate those statements. we are trying to develop a dialogue with china. we are we are trying to reach the capital of this state to the political elite. as you know , dmytro kuleba met with you in munich . he is one of the key officials. one of the main factors in foreign policy china so what are we ? you have any questions, please. good evening, mr. andrii. i am the head of the union office in the lviv region. i want to thank you personally and my colleagues for your work

as an ambassador of ukraine in germany, but i have one and two questions for you . please tell me. in 2021, we have china does not have an ambassador, we only have a representative and the second question - this concerns india , there is also no ambassador there since july 2022, because we understand, especially in this situation, how important it is to have good contact with china and with india , thank you very much, thank you for your kind questions the words, well, the questions, in fact, they are very topical and uh, to have an ambassador in beijing and in and in sunday and in the end, in many other important capitals of the world, it is uh, well, the alpha and omega of everything, because uh- having only a temporary power of attorney, well, it doesn't solve the problem

does not solve many questions, because with the ambassador , completely different doors are open compared to those who are only performing their duties . who could really defend the interests of ukraine in the best way in china and india, uh, he continues, unfortunately, well, it is not easy, because these countries require a special approach, so sometimes it is not enough to know only uh, hindi there or chinese here you need to have a lot of other , let's say, criteria and accept political weight to have influence so that you are really accepted in these capitals not only at the level of the middle echelon of the ministry of foreign affairs, as is very often the case, but also so that you can

reach the highest circles, in fact, the highest echelons of power in both of these countries. therefore, all i can say is that the search process is ongoing, and i strongly believe that in the near future, in the very near future, these candidates will be found and will begin their work . -e latin america and in the end and in asia because of that. unfortunately, we have a question about the number of people who are really able to defend our interests. well, not only formally to be there because you know, you can send a person there and a diplomat, but here it is important that in what way this diplomat, this new

ambassador will be able to act at the height of the challenges that we are talking about today, first of all, it is about helping to end aggression, and that is why i say that for now this is the prerogative of the leadership of the ministry, of course, the prerogative the leadership of the state, therefore, i believe that the most optimal candidates will be found in these states and in others, a short question, mr. buchynu, should we move on to us , i understand from your speech that you are considering two options with regard to china, either china continues to take a neutral position, or china will try to influence putin and russia and why do you reject the option that china can support russia and, for example, provide it with some lethal weapons? well, we do not reject such options, in principle, we have heard the statements and leadership of the united states of america of our other partners about the fact that such a threat, unfortunately, persists, and the thing

is that we have a minimum number of levers in order to influence the chinese government and the leadership of this country in order to abandon of this third option, which will not promise anything good for us, that's why our efforts today are focused on the fact that despite those uh , maybe there are some disappointments that have taken place until today, because we all would like china to take a place in relation to ukraine more favorable, we do not lose hope precisely for this optimistic scenario, because in the end it is about the global interests of stability and it is from this global stability that china can only win. therefore

, the decision is, of course, under the leadership of this state, our influence is on regret is not very important in this context, therefore , our key allies can and should play a decisive role here, within the limits of the relations they have, because china was and remains the main trading partner in most western allies, and here, too, these states obviously have means of influence in order to convince the leadership of china , after all, not to do, not to do this, well , let's say it's tragic for us not to run away from russia, so what's up with us it depends. well, we, of course, use all these tools, but here, in the end, the decision is under the leadership of china. we probably hope that, uh, it will still lean towards their ukraine, because but what will it mean to actually

ensure for china itself the conditions for uh, for economic well-being and prosperity in this way, the increase of china's soft power in the world , therefore, i think, after all, this equation is not very simple, and we believe that whether they ask whether china is still choosing the right path, well, in fact , we pay a lot of attention to this, but it is extremely important, therefore that this war of ours with russia has long gone beyond the borders of only our state and the russian federation, it is the whole world and how it will unfold further is extremely important and it is clear that china is here. moments, they are trying to somehow take over this role, so some

mediators of the winners, what will it look like. well, we will see and hear this address tomorrow. andriy, we thank you. in 2022, andreykiv, if you have something to add briefly and let’s move on , i wanted to ask the deputy minister. a player in the world economy of 1.5% of the total decided to fight the conflict in the center of europe without serious support from the key players, and it seems to me that to some extent the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine takes a certain passive position because there is a wide range of tools that can be used this is between parliamentary relations and between governmental and appeals there, for example at the level of the united nations, let me remind you that ukraine is the founder of the united nations in 1945, and until the 1970s, during the summer, taiwan represented the people's republic of china.

no one there heard or knew about china itself, that is why ukraine, as the founder of the un, as in principle the author and one of the co-authors of the united nations charter and the founder of other international versions, could in principle demand from china compliance with those basic norms to which ukraine applied directly to the second point - this is what i have to do with this function of china. china's goods from the eu are 1.5 billion a day. it is somewhere under 400 billion a year ago. its economic influence on that is simply fantastic. the third is that russia sells 300 to china. million of oil per year and actually already on today, fresh water is drawn from lake baikal to china, and here the relations are extremely cultural , economic, social, broad, but have a direct reflection in military cooperation . even if the united states clearly declares that it has direct evidence of the supply of let's

say non-lethal bases on the shield of bulletproof vests to russia, then we do not say about the very weapons that can be brought to the russian federation from the provision of combat capability, we are talking about those components there, the same microcircuits, chips, assembling raw materials that can be supplied to russia, and the last point that now, using sanctions against russia , the european union has actually closed the supply of many production components weapons but at the same time, this year they have already found workarounds, including through the south asian markets, in order to ensure this supply and the last testimony about the fact that german, dutch, and even taiwanese microcircuits are appearing in components of military equipment, they simply cause a warning that one should not wait until ambassadors are appointed there, but take clear measures at the level of all possible institutions of the united nations and relevant international organizations of the inter-parliamentary system halls of personal contacts , etc., and talk about it openly in public almost every day, because without china, scattered

wherever i go, almost support economic social ties and being actually with a monkey like this in the hands of pyongyang, putin would not decide to move anywhere because beijing, because we understand that in principle it is in the hands of russia to test the western world, its red lines, which measures can be taken , ways to protect democracy, the values ​​of the western world, to protect civilization, so that later these same tools that apply russia against ukraine should be applied in the occupation of e-e directly and ivaniv . thank you, he is also. well, you have the floor now, because we talk a lot about your country. lviv polytechnic hmm doctor of philosophy correct here there are questions, including how to a philosopher on the one hand there is an economic benefit of china's cooperation with the entire civilized world and on the other hand, well, nowhere. the truth is that there are children in china

. this philosophy is for becoming the world hegemon, as it is now fashionable to say, the country that will be the most important, what will be swayed in your view, are these schalke scales or common sense cooperation with the west, or is it all that this struggle for world domination, so it is possible , once again, i did not quite understand, this is you see well come on , i'll ask my question , what do we expect, what can we expect from china now

? and we also have such a document that asks how to solve such a war. maybe tomorrow, well, we will know where they are, but it is in china , it supports ukraine . in general, chinese society resents the united states of america this is the entire collective event that openly opposed china in the 50s. now there is economic competition. well, yes, well, i think so. well, we are here, it’s not only the chinese who need it, it’s in the world , it’s a fish, and there is such and such a situation. and what are you doing ?

in ukraine. how did you end up in our country? how long have you been here ? everything is here at the lviv university. that's why you chose ukraine to study. play earlier. there is moldova there is asaped tatyan and there is still a new fairy tale state. well, you need me . i think ukraine is very small. ukraine can study like that, it’s just that you can keep it or choose it , and you all. america can you can't fall like that yes and wasn't it scary last year when the war started in us you didn't leave ukraine at this

time you were here all the time during this year yes well at first yes i was sick and worried because of that it was also the first time i saw war, and at that time, i think everyone was worried and my parents and my sister, well, they always said, well, it's dangerous there, and if it's possible here , she can return home, and i knew. at that time, i was in lviv and asked about the factory, the station, there are many people, well, from kharkiv, from kharkiv, sad, yes many people above, well, in poland, in hungary, and so on. and please tell me the last questions on this topic and the attitude of ordinary chinese to the situation with taiwan. well

, just like that, let it be a part of china, yes, now. well, someone wants to leave the country, but no it's not a country, it's just a province part yes, well, this is a story, this is a story, but it’s like, well, here it is, well, china is just, well, part or here are asked, it’s just, if very briefly, regarding china, friends, we must understand one thing, china, it is, it already is, well, not hemog, as you said but it is a great power that influences the politics of the whole world , and it will remain so, because there are many factors, china will not support

moscow with weapons, it is already there, our

diplomats and scientists had to work more and different experts, and we have only now grasped this, we see that now oh, there is a problem, it has been a problem for a long time, it must be fixed as soon as possible, without a doubt. hmm, china will not get involved in this war, it will never be a participant in this war, you will see what concerns the taiwanese. well, that's it, as the guest says, and the chinese will be like that if we say crimea - it's ours, that's all, that's all, and hope for something else, i want to say that nizhynska , you young children, there are discussions on this question, often russian-speaking people find it difficult to learn ukrainian, and you have mastered it, it's actually very nice for us oleg sinyutka is with us is on skype people's deputy of ukraine i will only say that president zelensky reacted to china's peace initiatives and called them a good signal. at the same time, he added that he is only familiar with the general issues of the chinese initiative, but he has not seen the full document with proposals from beijing. i am quoting now