[000:00:00;00] and we just grabbed hold of it, we see what is happening now oh, there is a problem, it has been a problem for a long time, it needs to be fixed as soon as possible, without a doubt hmm china does not get involved in this war, it will never be a participant in this war to see what concerns the taiwanese well, that's what they say the guest and the chinese will be like that if we say that crimea is ours that's all uhu that's all and hope for something else i want to say today that you are very beautiful ukrainian you are well done we have many discussions on this issue often russian-speaking people find it difficult to study ukrainian and you have mastered it, it is actually very nice for us. oleg synyutka is with us on skype. people's deputy of ukraine. i will only say that president zelensky reacted to china's peace initiatives and called them a good signal. at the same time, he added that he was only familiar with the general questions of the chinese initiative about i haven't seen the full document with beijing's proposals. i'm quoting now

. it's very early to diagnose this document, and i think that, in general, the fact that china started talking about ukraine and sent some signals is very the president of ukraine said well, sir, today we are talking about the year of the full-scale war , about what it was like, what are our positions now, in fact, ukraine is now stronger than ever, and i think that here you will definitely agree with us, but what are your thoughts on what are you thinking about now why put an emphasis on what should we prepare for well, if we finish the topic with china, then of course we need to pay attention to the beginning of today's discussion, tomorrow's vote at the un general assembly , do you remember the last vote of 143 countries that

spoke out in support of ukraine and it is very important that tomorrow also the majority of countries, the majority of the world community, numbering at least 150 countries, support ukraine. i think that among those countries that will vote in support of ukraine there will be no china , i do not know if china will vote against it , most likely i i think that he will abstain during the vote, but such votes are really very, very symbolic and this is a real demonstration of those who are with ukraine in the most difficult moments. i absolutely agree with our consul general of the republic of poland vasylem pavlyukon, this does not mean that we do not need to work. of course, we need to work, that we need to make efforts in order to attract as many countries as possible, especially world leaders, to our side, but we must understand that this war is not only about the territorial integrity of ukraine

. it is about the struggle between two systems of autocratic dictatorship, which is muscovy, if you like, which is muscovy, and the civilized democratic world in the united states, in the european union, in japan, in the end, that system of governance to which i am convinced that our state because we are a democratic nation in our blood and we must be together with the democratic world , so if we talk about today 's positioning on- of course it is very important to pay attention to countries, but it is extremely important to be on the side of values ​​because if we are going to choose temporary alliances, it is in the medium term even prospects will not lead to a win, we must be together with the democratic civilized world, what is the united states

, what is europe. if we talk about the war, i think that every ukrainian will say that now in february 23 stronger and we are as united as you were on february 24 , 22. i am sure that many people are already wondering if we really did everything possible to repel a full-scale aggression on february 24 , especially if you see today's messages what 4 months before of the start of the full-scale aggression, we were clearly warned that it would take place in 2 weeks, we already had a plan for a full-scale aggression, and two days before the start of the full-scale aggression , analysts claim today that the exact date was already set when the muscovites would start a full-scale aggression

aggression on the territory of ukraine, etc. of course, there will be a lot of analysis and whether everything possible was done to repel the aggression. i am convinced that the issue of demining chongar , the construction of fortifications in the north will not be raised more than once as the cause of heavy battles and heavy losses suffered by the armed forces forces of ukraine, but today we very clearly understand that our solidarity is our support for the armed forces of ukraine - this is the key to our victory, because it would be very difficult for us, probably even impossible stop aggression without western support without financial support without arms support you imagine ukraine has a military budget in the amount equivalent to an annual amount equivalent to approximately 4 billion dollars, the western world has already provided us with weapons worth almost 50 billion dollars, that is, 12

annual defense budgets of ukraine - this is what kind of help we received from the civilized world. i think that the numbers speak for themselves, but we must understand that this is not a war , as the muscovites talk about it, this is our ukrainian war, this is yours and ours is ours freedom for our identity, and therefore all problematic issues must be pushed to the background, the only thing that cannot be pushed to the background is corruption, the fight against corruption - this is a symbolic fight, because no one, washed by corruption crimes , has ever brought me to the european union, nor nato, and if we want to end this war with a real victory, and victory means the liberation of all occupied territories and ukraine's membership in the eu and nato, we must strengthen and support the armed forces of

ukraine. do everything possible so that ukraine meets all the democratic standards that the european union and the united states and the rest of the civilized world, our partners with whom we should be together, live today. we give the floor to the guests who have not yet spoken to us , in particular mykhailo golovko, then mr. borotov , then mr. buchyn. good evening to everyone in the studio , thank you for the invitation, indeed, this is our year it seemed like one day flew by, because i want to know about it, this day is endless, which lasted, but still, for me, for a ukrainian nationalist. i believe that the war has been going on for 9 years in our country and its beginning. it is precisely the bloodiest day on the maidan, february 20, on this

day, 20 in february, the landing of the little green men in claws in the crimea officially began, they captured the crimean parliament, even after that putin gave them orders and awards, medals were issued on february 20, 2014 for the capture of the crimea, in principle, this is the beginning of our new war, the newest war against the eternal the enemy is against the muscovites, against this enemy of the empire, and i remember exactly 9 years ago, on february 23, when we in the parliament, having formed a new coalition, repealed the anti-corruption law of kolesichenko kivalov, this ukrainophobic anti-language law that destroyed the ukrainian language. farion said all this because of you . it started. what do you see in it? although

, by the way, a turk never signed this law , we later collected the signatures of freedom fighters and other deputies, and joined in we defended it to the constitutional court, we directly achieved that it was adopted in violation of the constitution of ukraine. that is, we understood how important the language space is for us , understanding that it is an identifier, this is the foundation of our nation, and how much our enemy moscow, which came here with its troops , understands this exactly with what ideology to de-nazify us, to grind us down, to make us low-born, to make us moscow kryvlov thugs, and we saw, understanding the real essence of the enemy. that is, it is one thing on the surface, and inside there is another, that is, before

the enemy is attacking you by force, an invasion, a war that we knew about, that we will defend no, well, we have had a war for 8 years and the people's deputy mentioned that the preparation was a failure, so the preparation there in four months was correct, but for 8 years it is possible to be the same we had time to do a lot. and how much did we launch our anti-aircraft missile defense system? well, practically not a single new tank, not a single new plane, artillery , shells, we didn't have a cartridge factory for 8 years. billions of dollars of ammunition for billions, remember in balaklia, kalynivka, everyone else punished someone, someone was responsible . it was practically a sabotage preparation by the enemy for the invasion of ukraine, but there was no reaction, no action, that is, we understood that today we are trying to protect all democratic values ​​with the shield of europe. the values ​​of people's power are generally human, some values ​​and the whole world today i will take over this wisdom of ours

, you said correctly that they did not believe in us , so they doubted someone said two days someone for three days, someone for a week, they said, as biden said, everyone come in, leave, diplomats, instructors, the fleet, before that, they took the ship away from ochakov, uh, everything and so on, called our colleague, the minister of foreign affairs , two days before the war, said goodbye to him, shook his hand, apologized it's a pity, kuleba himself admitted that he will take his family out, everything is in ukraine , the end is here, we have rains , they gave us rains, although they gave us a guarantee before that, because in our country, when they disarmed it, not only in moscow , they also disarmed the civilized world too including dropping america, give nuclear weapons down the river, and these bombers here called 22m3, they were called to death . yes, i destroyed 30 bombers, the cost of which is more than one billion , and the fleet

, aviation, warehouses. we did it because we gave away these nuclear weapons, we gave them away, and today the discussions have already started, you know, and that’s all there is to the memorandum, and you ’re correct here, it’s written a little crookedly, but it’s not like that. you read there should have been a guarantee, not others, and so on. philological war this is what you understand, is it legal or linguistic? i don't know. and i have a question. what did you fool us? we believed you. we trusted you honestly, and you tell us that they signed me like this. and what you gave us, they signed mine like this, and now today we put we have to stand in the position of some kind of beggars, give us weapons, we are not asking you to know how to fight and die. they have been preparing for this war for 50 years with the alliance, and with the soviet nato , they created what for what purpose are they allocating billions to this institution, they are rearming today, such a country as the superpower america is the only certain state that can wage war. practically on all continents of the world, on time

, but weapons are enough. but we remained at the broken trough because of our lack of wisdom , because of our naivety, because of our short-sightedness, because we elected power all presidents, kravchuk, yanukovych, poroshenko, but the prices of zelensky and us. i apologize, but they are all involved, all are involved in the disarmament, in the destruction of our nuclear weapons, which, by the way, was in ninth place in the world in 1991, in the 1990s, we were still occupied ninth place in the world because in our military-industrial complex and therefore, of course, if we do not develop it , if it is even now during the war, then we have no prospects for success, primarily because there are such long-range missiles that we will not be given which we have to develop ourselves and we have these developments, we have to do it, we understand that the same game is going on at the level of a year of time, and we still do not have

a single tank in a year, not a single plane, not a single helicopter, apache, abrams, or a drone american and so on and so on they promise and as jubayden says that he loves ukraine very much, of course he already says but i think that you don't deserve to drive old tanks to fight in the same way, you would get new tanks or not in a year, you know, i need this anecdote like when uncle iza came to odessa to visit there what does he say, and he really liked chocolates, he came for her, he came looking for chocolates, he brought them, and he says, you know, i went to the store , it was closed. the next time they brought it, well. i came , i brought chocolates, you know, i came in , there was no chocolate, there was only toffee, there was sucking.

new ones, maybe not this year, maybe next year, or when, that's why you don't understand this cynicism, it costs us a lot, because every day we pay for it, we pay for it with the blood of the best of the best, our boys in our girls, children become orphans, we destroy the gene pool, what said the father, the most important thing we have is our nation , which is inevitable. but we can restore, seize our, restore our territory, knock out the enemy, return the lost land. families will not give birth to children and so that we do not have this pyrrhic victory when millions left, devastated the country and will not return, so what will be the trouble for us, so of course the question is why are we fighting for ukraine to be a ukrainian state so that ukrainians live here where

for a full state with a ukrainian content, where will be the ukrainian language, the ukrainian church, not that we will really be able to occupy a worthy place in the world among developed countries, and we can do it , because today the whole world sympathizes with ukraine , sympathizes primarily because of the courage of the armed forces, what about the naked even the americans stopped with their hands when they watched the footage when ukrainians on tractors , our farmers pulled those tanks, they remembered how they, in their time , fought against britain in 1776 for america's independence you see, they were inspired and all of them cannot help us now, because they will be crucified by their own voters who support ukraine and who sympathize in europe and america, and therefore today a unique opportunity is the bipartisan support of ukraine and even the united states of america, even this letter when the republicans i emphasize that on january 19, last year, before the war , a bill was registered to give us these weapons so that we would receive them, so that there would be no invasion, until

today it is blocked every day and we understand that there is some kind of game, for some reason they do not allow us get these weapons, but without weapons, without these weapons, it is impossible, the war will end quickly without weapons. we cannot quickly liberate zaporizhzhia in one direction, as our lieutenant said, so we need at least 300 e tanks, 500 guns, 700 bmps in one direction. and what can we say about such the front line that we have, we need 4-5 times more weapons , that's why we understand that every day the tightening of weapons is a loss on our part, we pay with the blood of the best of the best, that's why we don't have the right to remain silent, we have the right to demand that we they disarmed us, they took away nuclear weapons, we have to say yes, follow the budapest format and you join it by the way, except for america and britain , because we do not count the muscovites, france and china, which we talked about, have joined, so china today, it is correct to communicate with it , but you tell me what if to this day, there is no ambassador. it is not normal. when the last president

was under yanukovych in the 13th year, it is normal. in the 13th year , no one flew to china for 10 years. no, there is no respect for such people, there is no communication. that's uh that's what i'm talking about of the country's leader, that's why of course we have to say this today because it's very dangerous for us if china starts supplying weapons to russia , this war will drag on for a long time, it could be a proxy war on the territory of ukraine this is the worst possible scenario because it won't be very painful for us, yes we will win everything, we will win because, first of all , today i do not agree. when they say that there is an advertisement of foreign weapons and not ukrainian soldiers, because the most who did the work today was to save the state, to knock out the enemy in order to move the figure from east to south, these are our armed forces, these are our ukrainians , each in his place, someone did something , the teroborona, volunteers of the armed forces of ukraine, volunteers, all together, unite the big family and give each other and

the whole world today is delighted with our unity and courage, therefore, first of all, we must count on our own strength, secondly, demand from our partners to give us weapons , unlock lend-lease, do not play with this policy, give us the opportunity to quickly finish and win that war. let's already be on skype with valeria. in the studio valeriy, i know what i want to ask you about. so, after biden's visit, after his speech in poland , i think that in general, in our country there was such a mood, you know, well, close to euphoria , the whole world is with us, the whole world, in the person of joseph biden promised us support and to be with us until the end. and here, somewhere in parallel, at the same moment, this china factor appears, which is a little, well, personally, i have this euphoric state, well, it decreases somewhat. and in general , thoughts begin to appear that now the

china factor in general can seriously change it the disposition of forces. do you think the china factor can change the situation when everyone is against russia and russia is almost at a dead end. i congratulate you , i welcome the guests in the studio. glory to ukraine. i listened to what you said. at the end, i would like to make some clarifications for all of us - first of all, the budapest memorandum really sent us its decision, but its content is clear to us, china believes that it has given guarantees against an attack by a nuclear power on ukraine, and therefore its position is now regarding the prevention of the use of nuclear weapons not

only by the russian strategic triad there, but that in my opinion, well, the issue is already closed for them, but tactically, that is, preventing this, china gave this signal, and it is for the benefit of the world order, for the benefit of world security, here it should be noted, eh, i will tell you as a deputy minister, what eh, in principle, is that which minister and president in 2009 initiated letters to our partners on the budapest memorandum, they gave us answers. i carefully read these answers and they believe that this side is fulfilling its obligations, what is the usa, what is britain, well, the chinese should behave the same way here then very serious work in order to prove that non-nuclear threats to sovereignty and territorial integrity must also be assessed and, according to the memorandum of response , there must be such positions, it can be done, but

the weakness of this document is that we adopted it in this form and there are specific people who they did, there is a specific situation in which this was done. i don't want to spin the situation back, but they wringed their hands seriously for all parties. you know this, you are absolutely clearly correct, but why did you go to such a document in my possession it's a big question. look who presented it for signature and you have a system. it's clear. i tried to restore these issues when i was in office and as an ambassador. unfortunately, the very approach that existed then does not allow us to move very actively , but it must be done now. you talked about the ambassador very much. for a long time let me make a clarification with all due respect to the statements stop listening to them these statements are official they will be like that not because people are bad or good

just everyone will tell you the same answer the ambassador cannot be chosen because this is a unique country and it is very difficult in ukraine. yes, where did they find a million people who fight heroically? we cannot find an ambassador to china among all these people . the problem is delusional. otherwise, the candidacy has already been determined . i don’t know if greiman has already been sent or not. as a parameter, he may be suitable for this position , why are they dragging it, i don’t know, in our country, the appointment of foreigners is simply subordinated to some internal political issues, they wanted to do it with the rotation of ministers in the government or the liquidation of some ministries, well, they delayed this matter, now they are thinking when again to do and it is necessary to focus on the geopolitical agenda, this is the first, the second, what i would suggest, i would suggest to do several things, first, to do for this person who will be

, in a word, one or the other without a surname , a higher position, uh, since our minister kuleba is meeting with angi and you have already risen to a higher level, he is now the secretary of those chinese companies , this is higher than the minister of foreign affairs, and it is very good that we met at the level of the minister of foreign affairs, but on a mature question , i proposed to make him the position of minister a long time ago of foreign affairs in the morning of the vice-prime minister, that is, that it was the vice-prime minister, the minister of foreign affairs, that's why we have the prime minister from everything. well, not from the main one, as they say, on the diplomatic front, then you can give this person, the ambassador, a special status. that is it can be like our history was there uh well, i don't know at the level he is an example, let's say that we had a deputy secretary of the rnb, this is the prime minister and make these decisions quickly, that is, but you understand that with china you can't immediately jump into the place

where the two procrastinated years, a commission should be held uh, our inter-governmental meetings should be held in advance. it is not normal if you have to hand a letter that the ambassador should hand to the wife of the president of ukraine at a meeting where she thanks for that for such an opportunity . in the chinese sense, they have questions about such a protocol. so this issue has not been resolved for reasons that are not, let's say , the slight slippage of some of our internal bureaucratic mechanisms and the fact that there should be trust in the office of the president. in this case, i would still think that it would be necessary for the president's trust to be on other people regarding this candidacy. so i will stop at this regarding the chinese position , it will be honest now, uh, well, it is unfavorable

for us. china had to say its word and it is preparing for that what a year to delay it is already a long time, china's neutrality was in favor of russia now we are reaching the climax where geopolitics starts to play a role again and not only the results but also the results of the post-war world are determined therefore it is very important right now to hold our position and the situation is extremely difficult, in fact, our partners are helping us very seriously in this, but, according to my information, china has done a little bit, well, not a step back , it has slowed down a little bit with this publication of the entire text . well, it is useful that they started to discuss it, and the result will be later and it will depend on our wedding company, the issues will not want to be on

the side of russia, having lost, and we still have a month 2:3 in order to play beautifully geopolitical andreykiv has a question for you. please tell me, in your opinion, how to explain the fact that the budapest memorandum, which was signed in 1998 and 1994, was transferred to the depository of the united nations in 2015, because according to the charter there article 102, 103, it is not possible to challenge an international document that has not been transferred to the depositary. what has been an obstacle for 20 years to ukraine to transfer the specified document to the institutional order so that it can be referred to in international instances, in particular, in courts? first, second, china’s factor in the context of its economic development, its population is decreasing every year by about 5 million able-bodied people by 2030

, the number of people who are able to work will be reduced to 8 million. in your opinion, will china remain a world player in the future in a positive perspective, taking into account the economic and social problems challenges, demographic factors and the desire to at least retain influence in southeast asia. the deadline for the release of the first economy of the world well, ahead of the usa, they are not coming true now, that is, the optimistic forecast that the economy will grow by 9-10%, it is not so optimistic now, moreover, you are right, there are internal economic problems that have arisen, and these are actually problems of growth in essence, and welcome war now, from this point of view, it is not profitable. well, plus another 700 billion in exports

to the united states in connection with the position , it is not known now what will happen with this, this is a significant part, let me remind you something trillions somewhere of all exports, so i cannot analyze for you the whole situation in the coming years, we need to do this in specialized institutes, and this has not been done today, unfortunately, both in china and in russia, in russia, in general, the hole is full. well, we do not have such a serious analysis, it did not exist before the war, and the same can be said about china that is, i think that we now have a task. if it is not not set, it should be like this. as you asked, the question will be set to all structures. it should have been completed in order to understand their position . if we were to predict their position, then my opinion is that china remains, of course. well, no. first, we are not second. yes, especially now, but in principle, it is such optimism that china will bypass the united states and

this will definitely affect the whole world. i would not share this. an optimist from china is enough to influence in africa central asia, well, obviously east asia, and this influence will grow, but to become influential in the world in general, china, in my opinion, this ambition requires a change in approaches and biology , the country cannot spread the elements of controlled democracy, or does someone say authoritarianism to the whole world it doesn't happen like that a strategic partnership with ukraine is also not formed, which is signed on paper due to the fact that the basic principles between us and china are somewhat different, that is, there are many things that really complicate our bilateral cooperation, especially this is anti-americanism, but uh, everything is equal, everything is equal well it is necessary to try even in these conditions to cooperate and develop partnership in the field of security. yes