[000:00:00;00] but it will affect the whole world. i would not separate this car from china . it is enough to influence in africa, to influence central asia , well, obviously, east asia and this influence will grow, but to become influential in the world in general . china, in my opinion, this ambition, it needs to change approaches of ideology, the country cannot spread the elements of well-controlled democracy, or someone says authoritarianism for the whole world, it acquires that way , the strategic partnership with ukraine is not formed, which is signed on paper due to the fact that we have in china, the basic principles are somewhat different, that is, there are many problems that really complicate our bilateral cooperation, especially anti-americanism, but everything is equal, everything is equal. well, even in these conditions of cooperation, we must try and develop a partnership in the field of security.

i will say this is my opinion for the time being. we will not stand between the usa and china. this is a russian war against ukraine . it has shown clear positions in the world and unfortunately, well, in my opinion, china has made a strategic mistake. so far, it is making a strategic mistake. i don't see how it's possible, as some people propose walls there, so it doesn't happen like that, we have to decide . well, in my opinion, we have decided on this path, or has nato arrived, which is unacceptable to china, but we have to go our own way regarding the budapest memorandum, i told you that in 2009 year, i will remind you so that it is clear in 1994, it was already signed as well, if the result uh -uh, uh-uh, they were president kuchma, but all the key issues were resolved under leonid kravchuk , i will leave, well, that is, regarding that, and then in january in

moscow there was a meeting of three hundred in this the ministry of foreign affairs knows about this, but after that it was such a consolidation of the position, and here we did not fight for the text, so that it was a guarantee. such, 100%, we did not fight for the status for the status of the country which is part of the system of collective defense. it was easy to speak then, change it to joining nato, and the fact that we did not do it is our big mistake, so the conclusion is that we do not need to talk about any intermediate guarantees again, this is again a trap we have to talk about membership in nato and about perhaps on this path a bilateral agreement with a nuclear power on joint defense carried into the defense of self-defense on joint defense of the united states or with britain, this is the conclusion i make of the technical points. you are right, they existed, i would not

like to delve too much into you can look at all these questions from 2015 , there was a whole parliamentary hearing dedicated to this and all this discussion was, that is, i will just tell you that from this uh, believe me, if the force did not increase in any way if we, uh, at the un, we still developed it a lot. and this is a weak document, this is a weak document. i'm not saying that it should not be used, but unfortunately, its nature is not an international legal norm, but precisely such political norms. therefore, uh, all this structure. well, it was not clearly on our side. therefore, now it is necessary to leave it using only one thing that gave us guarantees. i agree with you, it does not matter what they are called in the ukrainian legislative base, this is a guarantee. that is, it is a guarantee and you gave it to us, therefore politically it is necessary it is very difficult to use legally, it is necessary to lay a new

base and security umbrellas for ukraine, now analyzing the relations of ukraine with china, i have the following question for you. during this year , many experts spoke on the media in the mass media of ukraine , evaluating the relations of ukraine with china , but that what they said could be found just like the google search system and it could be noted that in ukraine there is a rather significant lack of analysts at the expert level who understand the mentality of the chinese in general etc. please tell me whether i don’t know something or whether there are reputable scientific institutes in ukraine that deal with the introduction of china, that study china not only from the point of view of economic benefits there, but in general, history is planned, the perspective is able to analyze . if not, are there any plans to improve this

situation because china is a respectable player at the international level and when we asserted that it occupies the earth will occupy a valid place in geopolitics, it means that we need to build relations not for years 10:5:50 and for this we need relevant experts thank you well history it's long, i'll briefly try to tell you the institutes themselves according to their purpose. we have them, and in the academy of science of stop strategic studies under the president of ukraine, they are a diplomatic academy, but there are no people who i personally knew of the older generation who knew very much in the nuances and had their own i have a lot of personal connections from china. well, some people personally knew denping and know them, by the way . some of them did not agree to go as an ambassador, but they do have other qualities that are not the best for

such a job, so, er, i will say that people there is no such thing in the institution, but there are no such tasks, it was possible to hire more young professionals who would work at least on a systematic basis, this is the first second of my practice, i have to say, working simply in the analytical center in the center, i had to close the issue of receiving chinese delegations when they arrived there on saturday and no one wanted to deal with it, and we spent two or three days working with them there , uh, just settlements, work with major chinese state delegations of the academy of sciences, we organized it ourselves at the level of the chinese academy of sciences, because it’s not only the ministry of foreign affairs, it’s more the central committee the parties there, the party there, the academy of sciences, and it is precisely such connections that should be developed

, i myself know what i am talking about, i will tell you more at the beginning after the 24th. unexpectedly for me, i had to... could have been the ambassador of the older generation, but not of this new wave that came, they asked the chinese to talk to the chinese. i even wrote to them in the central committee there, we wrote articles so that they could place them in their party papers, because they were interested in this, i will tell you what happened, they lifted the taboo on such communication - it is with me at the word of the usa, you understand, they were looking for this and they told me that you have no messages. these are the gaps we have. we cannot now convince them to meet with the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, or to have a telephone conversation with the president of a warring country respected by the whole world and a president who

is popular in the world. so you know, your question is fair and this question should be closed. that is, there should be people with chinese language, well, in my center , for example, there are two people with chinese language, but we can’t, we tried to close informational work in the chinese direction , but there are nuances, they are very anti-american attitudes must be done very subtly with knowledge of the country. as you correctly pointed out, valery chaliy, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states in 15-19 years, the chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis center, as usual, it is very interesting to listen to valeria, father justin will respond briefly, because we spent 15 years in italy , well, obviously, i studied classical literature in the theological direction. i also want to tell you that at all the universities that i saw in rome, these are church-state universities, everywhere there were representatives of china, more than me it was surprising that they all had a state scholarship, and

obviously they were not there to tell us how beautiful china is, but they studied thoroughly all the delicate moves of, let's say , the system of the church, the state, etc., and even today we had a representative of china in the studio. we admire the fact that he is studying the ukrainian language, but this is an example to follow, probably we also need state scholarships in order not only to send people for a johnny scholarship to this or that country , to popularize ukraine, to study it, but in order to teach them to think like yes yes country or other way of thinking thank you right away yes i would like to give the floor the people's hero of ukraine a lot today we have that impression a bit china has taken over our country but you see we have to talk about it because it is extremely important and

so we are smoothly from the year of this full-scale the war has moved on to what awaits us. and what will happen. what are your thoughts on this? share what we can expect now . how strong are our positions ? let’s continue to talk about us . thank you. er, in fact, it is not profitable for china to support russia er, it was at the beginning of the war, if russia quickly er fulfilled its plans, then they would have endured the pause and then they would have come to terms with the fact that has happened to date er china russia as an ally russia does not need china, but china does not need russia, and in view of what happened in the whole world when the world was united. well, not all

of the 143 countries there, we are now talking with the support of ukraine, so accordingly, china will not expose itself to the opposite in this part of the world at the same time, in any case, taking into account that if he does not support russia , he still remains in the gains , china is falling apart, russia china will be resolved, it will not fall apart, but it will weaken, as it has already weakened , this means china's influence on the same asian countries, it will settle accordingly my opinion personal that china no longer supports russia, they can play with words there, they can talk about this or that, and it may happen that they will continue to maintain conditionally neutrality, at the same time , they do not support russia openly, although we know

that some things they still supply not flying there, some body armor, there’s something else, some property, even just sheathing , or there, er, some devices are made that are used in the military sphere, but not lethal weapons, the sky and supplies for now and that’s it. thank you, this is about china, if we talk about the military point of view, there will also be a question for you, because we have been waiting for something that the russian federation can do for two months. that 23-24 eh, massive shelling is possible. well, 23 is not over yet, we can’t say. as a fait accompli. but nevertheless , today you listened to budanov, who said that nothing special

will happen. don’t worry, what can we expect from from a short-term point of view in the coming months, well, as a military man, well, look, i came from the same direction not so long ago, and i see how low the potential of the russian federation is, but at the same time, in a month and a half or two months, this potential was spent. well, not completely , of course, but in fact, they lost in order to do something serious for ukraine, they no longer have the strength , and thank god, on the other hand, we still do not have enough strength to strike and start a counteroffensive, and we really sincerely hope that support and military aid in the first place

in ammunition, in the second place, it is military equipment, weapons, artillery, which will help us turn the situation in our favor , so to speak, for a month. yes, but this month must be endured, and i will tell you that we are actually paying a very high price, and every day this price is just well, critical. i want to say that i don't know why, but surely god loves us, because on the ninth year of the war, ukraine is fighting , holding the defense, counterattacking and beating a very strong enemy. on the 9th year of the war, ukraine is us, god loves us and i want in the last to say the following the phrase that in fact now we are talking about very important things, really important, but you have no idea how secondary they become

while being there at the front, if these issues from the studio reached the level of their solution here, honor and praise to everyone involved well, unfortunately, it is so does not happen and i will repeat again, we pay a high price for this and the last thing is that in the war we have a war, a state of war, not a state of war, in fact , it is the most difficult, the most difficult thing for a soldier to remain human and

thank god ukrainians remain human, well that so to speak, a few words that i wanted to say about other things, i am ready to answer questions if there are any to communicate mykola buchuk i want to touch on 3 questions that we actually started to discuss or discussed in detail the first question about the guarantees that were given to us and about as much as we can demand there not to demand well, you know i really like the saying about this wisdom about the fact that a smart person learns from other people's mistakes, a fool learns from his own mistakes, and a very stupid person will learn in general, but this one is right for me right now the saying reminds us of the situation in ukraine , if we analyzed our entire history , the history of relations with russia

, this is with muscovy even then, with the russian empire before. history became the same rake when we were giving up weapons from the army, especially this very well illustrates the era of liberation struggles in nerezunder, then we lost not just the state, we received national tragedies in the form of there uh, i don’t know executed revivals in the form of famines and so on , again in the 90s, we started on the same rake, or rather , we gave up nuclear weapons, we gave up the development of our military-industrial complex, and in principle, we are primarily to blame for this. unfortunately, we are not maybe on us directly. and this is the political elite, which was conditionally ukrainian , which had a little different values ​​than i do. we live in honey , those who are here in the studio, and accordingly, unfortunately , we are also now experiencing this tragedy. i am sure that if we had our nuclear weapons and i i am sure that we could in those days, even despite the wringing of our hands, had the opportunity to defend it and no one will force a nuclear state to kneel down there

and refuse, that is, if it is a nuclear state like we were . well, in 1994, it was our mistake. and now today we are grappling with the consequences of these mistakes, these miscalculations, or maybe just some treasonous actions committed by people who are far from ukrainian values, the second thing may probably be muddled here, but still, i also want to express myself regarding china’s positions because it is actually now one of those dark horses, you know, better yet and which we did not understand how it is measured, ask us if it will be what do you think about it from a political scientist , actually, you know, i actually just want to talk about it. that is, you know, we interpret very often china is only from the position of uh, you know, economic and but in fact then two planes are the economic plane and there is the geopolitical plane and indeed in the economic plane there russia

is a tiny fraction of the turnover and trade of china, the main trading partners - it is the usa, the european union, it is clear that from the point of view of china's economy, it is not profitable to break relations with the west, but it is profitable to support russia, but i also do not agree with the statement that russia is no longer interested, it is impossible for china, i explain why china, if it really wants to be one of the centers influence, he should emphasize not only the economy, but also emphasize the army on military power, and in this case, if, for example, we take away the russian factor, then in fact china finds itself alone with america and west a in the military in terms of plan, he absolutely cannot compete with them, especially in nuclear weapons, and in this case, russia, with its nuclear potential and its army , could be the factor that could help china establish, well, become one of the centers

of influence, and oppose the west, america, and we have remember in this context also about taiwan, because if suddenly china , i don't know if he has made a decision yet, by the way, i wanted to ask the chief about it. in principle, taiwan has no chance of confronting the usa without russia, it is simply doomed to failure, so in this case we are really talking about the geopolitical aspect and we are talking about the fact that now, unfortunately , a geopolitical confrontation is taking place on the field of ukraine, which can be called the third a world war or its beginning, which may be one of the manifestations, but definitely those results that will actually be decided in ukraine on the battlefield, they will have an impact not only on ukraine or russia, they will have an impact on geopolitical configuration for a decade, if not

for a century, and the third aspect, er, today we are actually talking about what we are , let's say on the eve or on the anniversary of the beginning of a full-scale war, and you actually correctly asked the question of what we should expect from russia escalation and so on, you know. i believe that everything that russia could show, except for rejecting nuclear weapons , it has already shown, that is, you know, it is very naive to think that russia was playing half-heartedly with us somewhere, that somewhere we had regrets, and so on for the simple reason that this war is, firstly, putin's personal war, on which his personal fate depends, and secondly , the fate of russia itself depends on the results of this war. if russia loses in this war, the question of its existence as a state in its current status will be in question, and therefore russia has already shown everything it could show us. yes, it can still continue to fire and it can still continue to mobilize. it really has greater mobilization human resources between

ukraine, but to talk about the fact that they already have a chance to win in our country, i don't think so now. there is such an international configuration that in principle we have received quite powerful international military and armor support, now we are talking about aviation support and i think that all these things they will generally tilt the scales more in our favor and in this case, fortunately for us, russia can only threaten only to scare us. but i think that the maximum we will get is the next one, let's say a portion of missile strikes there , with which, in principle, we have already more or less laid out , which we are already used to more or less neutralizing. i think that we simply have to be ready to do your job and actually destroy this empire of evil vasyl pavlyuk what to allow was playing on that finished to be ready i would like it if you would allow the little little one to do such a summary of all that here mr. mykhailov told the head the right things he said i was 100%.

and mr. andrii told the rich man here in the studio that what if what if what if what if what if you friends the fifth column has not yet left and today i would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart to the security services , they finally started doing something, they have already started to catch the collaborators of the separatists and all the rest, and they are further away, more and more cans are being opened, we see them . there are plenty of them in the presidential administration and you in the government and in the ministry. we are there in the east . i personally have a general like shevchuk . we have volodymyr, a very good one. i would have been in kyiv a long time ago. no, there is no need for the ministry of defense, so they continue to sit there, they sit there a lot, and

they continue to sit. we and our church cannot give advice, what we say. we are all happy to close here. they do not close anything. the decision was made to put up signs in those churches, not to hang a sign, close the church, it is meant until then , hang a sign, then it will be opened, and then you will see what the result was. and why? those people who want to go to the orthodox church, let's say the ukrainian one, they are being bullied and that's not the case at every step, we see it and today we are saying why are they appointing ambassadors and so on, people, believe the internal , there are so many nuances, you can all imagine that we will win the war of course we you have already won, the muscovites have already lost, but how to later build so that they were really democratically civilized, we see corruption scandals today and many others and many, many other things will come out, and that is why we must emphasize today and in ukraine, without a doubt, because

he is in fact responsible for the security of ukraine today, and so on, security is subject to him, because today you emphasize work, increase, give them more opportunities, that they really raised that fifth column, without this, we will not build the normal ukraine that we want and for which today our glorious soldiers are really giving their lives, such is the truth of life, we are adding him to our broadcast, junior lieutenant of the 45th separate artillery brigade of the armed forces of ukraine, a people 's deputy of ukraine of the seventh convocation, a freedman , we congratulate you glory to ukraine, they know oleksiy that you are in the direction of bakhmut, how is it now that russia wanted to take bakhmut away, but it is not succeeding in anything, and thank god, in fact, but still how the military sees it from the inside eh good evening studio good evening, dear ukrainian brothers and sisters the situation is extremely difficult now in the direction of bakhmut, the enemy

he does not stop his attempts to capture the city and we understand that he also changes his tactics in the course of his hostilities. he learns quickly and if earlier in the beginning they just went in an avalanche and threw their corpses at bakhmut, that is, on some time later they changed their tactics when they tried to capture our firing positions in small groups, now they again chose the tactic of flash fire and what says that they are allegedly running out of ammunition hmm i wouldn't say that because constant constant shelling constant shelling of the city and then after that again they are still chasing those bulls er-e married after them for hail, a detachment in the best traditions of the soviet union and er-e difficult situation in the er-e northern direction of bahmut is a little easier somewhere in the south and the enemy again wants him

to take in the ring, but we remember that when certain tasks were set by the military and political leadership of muscovy about taking bahmut about entering the administrative borders of the luhansk donetsk oblasts, and this is not possible, it is not possible, first of all, thanks to the actual courage and resilience of our soldiers, who they stand and defend the ukrainian bakhmut eh in eurokus you know this sometimes when you find time to look at what is being done in our social networks and when some people start saying that they are already tired of the war i want to be the first thought about these guys sitting in computers who have been fighting for a year now, and you wonder if they are not tired when they start to launch an informational and psychological special operation somewhere inside the country

, and many people are against it many people are spreading various rumors when they are spreading opinions about uh , the continuation has been carried out. let's say that the mobilization , the mobilization did not end. very good words were said in his time and the chuhar went there. he said so , the cowardice of those parents leads to slavery. their children, i want all of us to remember when the year was, who the first days and months of the war , how we rallied, how we stood up for the defense of our country. or with my last penny, which was sometimes taken out of the pocket by starving people. and now a

year has passed and some are already tired. i think that everyone who washes and really has many problems. in the state itself, the only thing is that it is a great pity, but i will once again. well, i will i must remind you that i have repeatedly said that all these problems must be solved before the end of the war so that it does not happen as many say, the boys will come and put things in order. should already go to that country and dream country independent free really and without corruption of countries but the fact is that all these things must be done very strange delicate so that you do not give food to our enemies to take advantage of

to throw this seed of discord between ukrainians who will quarrel among themselves, i will tell you that we have representatives of many different parks in the brigade, but the fact is that we do not have a discussion about the future of ukraine , about the future of our victory, and that is why all these quarrels should be better than this energy and direct it to the help of the army and the state in an important oleksiy eh, we will stop the conversation with you for a moment, we will continue on the air of the interto tv channel in our social networks, we have to tell you goodbye to all viewers of the lu espresso tv channel, see you next week at 7:15 p.m. and we continue, but everyone says you mentioned dzhigarda briefly about dzhihar dudayev , did you mention this phrase of his and i always remember good evening on the air of besenyu from ukraine live from london i am yevgenia shedlovska and today in our issue did