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[000:00:00;00] to continue active actions, it depends solely on these two factors . it is clear. i want to draw your and our audience's attention to recent sociology. the vast majority of ukrainians, 87%, do not agree to any territorial concessions to end the war . this is what i have indicated now. and the ukrainians are also ready to fight for a long time, as i understand it, the ukrainians are just realists, now it is absolutely clear to the majority of citizens that russia started an invasion on a wide front not to stop at some borders, it is a war against the ukrainian state as a whole against the ukrainian nation as a whole, since our society is considered by russia as a competitor and a threat to the russian authorities
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of the project, therefore, therefore, of course, for us, it is necessary to fight to victory, this is not some kind of attitude of ukrainians, eh, to fight at any cost is real it's just a simple question a simple question of survival only in this way only with this kind of attitude well with this kind of attitude we can really win the war and save ourselves well then let's now analyze the situation on the fronts in general this is how you are now you see, how can you analyze how the russian army is currently advancing on the front line, let me remind you that they allegedly tried to capture bakhmut vugledar and timed it supposedly to the anniversary of the invasion, but it looks like it will hardly be able to achieve these goals, so let's analyze what is actually happening on which near which
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settlements i think that russia now understands that the strength of the ukrainian army is not tied to any specific dates, they understand that the tie will add - it will be a defeat for them, because the ukrainian troops, despite the fact that they are very they are many times inferior to the russians in the amount of ammunition, nevertheless, they fight simply neurotic and full of self-sacrifice, therefore, of course, now the task for russia is, in principle, to continue, they need to demonstrate some progress, they need to continue active actions in the donbas, keep the tactical initiative there , therefore, their actions are aimed at capturing tactical initiative and creating an advantage along the entire line of active hostilities. this is their goal. add this goal to create and
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increase pressure on the ukrainian army. of its combat capabilities. and the enemy is the enemy, and he acts with this very purpose . well, finally, i want to ask you, in your opinion, does it make military sense for the ukrainian army to keep bakhmut now ? to receive the city in order to later de-occupy it at a lower price, but we also remember the reports in the american press that the western partners of ukraine are urging us not to keep bakhmut at any cost , because it cannot be of such strategic importance. what do you think? bakhmut - its holding is of strategic importance - it is the holding of a very profitable line of defense and it is profitable for us, but considering the strategic goals of this war, not attrition, of course, holding any
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position is optimal for us if we can inflict much greater losses on the enemy than he inflicts on us there is a question. and it is from this point of view that we hear that such conversations have begun that it is not necessary to hold any position under all conditions, that is why, in principle, the battle for bakhmut is of great importance for the ukrainian army, and the abandonment of the city is not in our in the interests of receiving bachmut for as long as possible will allow ukraine to stop this convenient border to stop the advance of the enemy to slovyansk and kostiantynivka, druzhkivka, that is
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, large cities, nodes, key nodes of the slavyansk kramatorsk agglomeration. appropriate for receiving the border of bahmut, it is clear , thank you very much to our ether, yuriy butusov was the editor-in-chief of the publication censor.net china may soon transfer to russia lethal weapons that it can use it freely against ukraine. this is written by the international press in a publication in the journal, it is said that the usa is considering the possibility of publicly disclosing information about beijing's preparation for the possible transfer of weapons to russia, which it needs to fight with the ukrainians, according to the newspaper, the usa has such information from of its intelligence agencies, china denies the possible transfer of weapons, meanwhile, on friday , february 24, the official beijing is preparing to publish
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its peace plan for the settlement of the war in ukraine, before this china formally held neutrality, but supported russia politically, for example by voting in the un security council, informationally and economically helping, in particular, to weaken the effect of western sanctions. it is expected that the chinese president xi jinping may visit moscow soon, and the head of chinese diplomacy, wang wang , was received at the highest level during the visit , the strategic nature of which was once again confirmed of russian-chinese relations in russian, chinese relations are falling apart as we planned in previous years , everything is progressing we are reaching new frontiers we would like to emphasize once again the full-scale strategic partnership between russia and china, this partnership is not directed against a third party and should not be subject to interference and provocation by any third party and we will no longer succumb to
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intimidation and pressure from third parties will china decide to provide weapons to russia and how could ukraine react to this, we will talk about it further by contacting us analyst petro shevchenko good evening good evening how serious do you think the possibility of supply is of lethal weapons to china to russia for the war against ukraine. i think that the possibility that china will transfer lethal weapons really exists if china sees that kyiv has ignored its peace initiative. well, in general, the west does not accept this peace initiative, then china may consider the possibility of what to transfer well, for example , certain weapons are armed in order to influence the situation on the battlefield, because this chinese peaceful gentleman actually foresees
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concessions on the part of ukraine. you can say the capitulation of ukraine because china will be against ukraine liberating the occupied territories by force . well, about this peace plan, we will come back a little later. now let 's discuss the visit in england to moscow. at the highest level and seated him, by the way, not at the typical table at which vladimir putin receives guests , so to speak. the connotation of this visit to china is very important because for china at the moment the partnership with russia is important on at least four levels: the geostrategic level - the security level - the political level and
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also the economic level and therefore of course this visit can be to say he is a part of the historical because here is one and he said during the meeting with putin eh weyjoum and ultrasound eh that is, if there are opportunities in the crisis, that is, if he made it clear to eh putin of russia in general that yes despite the fact that china he well he was so much more natural until now but maybe after this peace plan, china will be more proactive in supporting russia, and even more so it will be more proactive in supporting russia after the visit, all simpina in the spring, well, by the way, let's stop here on the fact that the other table is -e used as you explain, it can be some kind of a signal, a diplomatic protocol of some kind of warmer relations between china and russia, yes , 100%. because they are coincidences, this is not a coincidence, because the chinese are very sensitive
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to uh, well, indict, that is, indirect various signals, and if you remember, there was a meeting with biden and then well, at the event , no one paid attention to this, but for example, the chinese wrote in the media that when they shook hands, these calls were not biden, then there was, well, it was a handshake, it was not was very positive and not if it was in the west, it really is not important, it is important that what happened at the negotiations, but where are the chinese, this entourage, in general, these details , nuances, they are very important, and the fact that putin is all at this table if he were to sit scholls and macron at a distance and with you, he would have already sat down within the limits unequal, this is a very positive signal. why, because china in general has such a historical trauma in well, after that century, after a century, they are humiliated, especially, if by europeans, and therefore if now their main goal
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is to feel themselves equal with by europeans in general from europe, you can say that it is very good for them. it very much raises their self-esteem and self-esteem, and that is why, of course , such a gesture is a symbolic gesture on the part of the russian authorities. it was very positively received in china, and if you have seen it well there were different messages, for example on facebook about the fact that in general chinese er chinese television broadcast this meeting and putin's speech on well this is a message to the federal assembly it was broadcast. important, well, tomorrow, we already mentioned it, on the first anniversary of the war in ukraine, china is going to publish its peace plan, let's now listen to what president volodymyr zelensky said about this plan at
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today's press conference with the spanish prime minister in kyiv and then we will discuss the initiative of the leader of china regarding the peace plan. i know the general things, the diplomats of our two countries met, and china said that they have such an initiative, the document. to this document and i think that in general the fact that china started talking about ukraine and sent some signals in general i think that it is very good for us, it is important that all states should preferably be on our side, it is on the side of justice but nevertheless what china is already talking about this. these are some of the first steps. this is very good. let me remind you that with us is the analyst petro shevchenko. now we have heard the position of the president of ukraine. he previously said that ukraine hopes for some kind of cooperation even with china. i remember there were
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such reports . that the banks can hope for china's help in the reconstruction of ukraine after the war. how will it turn out? are these aspirations not inflexible on the part of the ukrainian authorities ? or maybe they have something else in mind? well, i think that for a start we are all like the president zelensky, we really have to see what kind of initiative this will be, because if , for example, the chinese are currently articulating such points as , for example, the need for a fair and transparent investigation into the explosions of the northern streams, then they said today that it is necessary to conduct a study of why these meetings in istanbul failed between the ukrainian and russian parties, that is , who influenced it, that is, they and you, then they said recently that it is also necessary to stop the support of ukraine, namely the shipment of weapons. that is, all these moments they
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can testify to the fact that in this initiative there will also be some kind of advice from china that if ukraine should reduce cooperation with the west well, although in fact we have ukraine now, well, depending on cooperation with the west, and i don't know how it is possible to stop it, first of all, and secondly, i think that this peace plan may take into account some russian strategic whims, that is, as china said, ilya skinov pin said before that it is impossible for one country to increase well , their security needs due to reduction hmm, the security of other countries. that is, if the emphasis on nato is on ukraine's cooperation with nato and so on, that is, let's see what the plan will be, and regarding what ukraine and china have now . well, if there is no cooperation, because ukraine
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does not have an ambassador to china, that's the truth. and the fact that after the war china can take part in the reconstruction. i think it's a good idea because i'm asking because there are capacities and experience - this is the one belt one way initiative when it will be rebuilding and building infrastructure in third world countries in developing countries. but again, if there is no political connection between kyiv and such, i do not think that china will directly participate in the reconstruction, let's face the fact that kyiv will then want to allow china to participate in the reconstruction, so let's see how it will be , there will be a lot left here from geopolitics, mr. shevchenko, i would like to ask you to briefly answer the following question: why do you think china has been waiting for a year to present its plan, why not earlier? well, the chinese weighed all their
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ifs. he has already done it. he has already understood that he can't wait any longer because china is also very much pressured by the problem of taiwan, that is, now it would be very beneficial for china to have this conflict in europe come down to manivka and china would be able to focus more already on the asian vector, i.e. in taiwan , thank you very much analyst petro shevchenko was in touch with us until the time of our theater from the people's republic of china itself . i would like to take this opportunity to remind you once again to like this broadcast so that more people can to see people's deputy oleksandr trukhin, once one of the most influential deputies of the servant of the people
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, wrote a statement about drawing up a deputy's mandate. trukhin is known for wanting to quietly go to the forest. oleksandr trokhin, which happened near kyiv on august 23, 2021, the car in which trikhin was traveling crashed into another car at high speed. as a result of that accident, six people were injured by eyewitnesses of the accident speculated that trukhin was drunk and driving. the news about the traffic accident involving the deputy was immediately published by dozens of ukrainian media. however, over the next few days, one after the other , they inexplicably began to delete news about the accident or change the news in such a way that the mention of the deputy of trukhin radio svoboda was not left there . one of the first media outlets to draw attention to this was a week after the accident, trukhin appeared in the parliament and declared that he did not interrupt the driving, that he was sober, and that he cooperates with the investigation in the ministry of internal affairs, they later stated that the cameras on the poltava-kyiv road were not working on the day of the accident, and that it
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is impossible to know for sure whether truchit was behind the wheel, in a word, it was very similar to the fact that the case is being mixed up , so to speak but on february 1 of last year, ukrainian pravda released a video from a policeman's chest camera, where it was recorded how trukhin wanted to leave the scene of the accident and assured the patrolman that he could resolve the issue with the head of the ministry of internal affairs , denys monastrsky. later, he offered the policeman a bribe of 150,000 in in exchange for quietly going to the forest
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, let's remember how it was . i can't go any further. обычная спортивные пример stupidity don't speak сейчас here is this in the dbr of the authorities who investigated the case, they said that they had not seen this video before, but the then general prosecutor iryna venediktova started a new criminal proceeding two days before of the russian invasion on february 22 last year, trukhin was expelled from the servant of the people party, but he remained a member of parliament. just the day before, trukhin entered into a plea deal with the investigation, he pleaded guilty to offering a bribe and wrote a statement on the drafting of the deputy mandate from the time of the road accident to the drafting of the trade mandate , one year has passed and for six months and one day , it was not possible to quietly go into the forest. so, according to
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the agreement that he negotiated with the investigation, he also has to pay a fine of 6 million hryvnias, which is more than $160,000. that is, almost as much as he is proposed to the investigators for this trip to the forest, the money should go to support the armed forces of ukraine, let's discuss this situation with us, a lawyer at the anti-corruption center, vadym valko . good evening . greetings. in general, what is keystrukhina talking about? we have, for example , anti-corruption bodies , and the anti-corruption court from the national police of the dbr, what do we have, for example, in the case of a road accident investigated by the dbr, well, no information about the fact that someone was brought to responsibility that there is a verdict, i remind you that there were six people injured in this road accident. the national police, which investigated the case administratively regarding the violation of traffic rules, established that the driver
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was a non-trukhin, of course, and the other person was an assistant to a deputy from poltava who was driving with them in a car with a camera our road was not taken off, they were taken off, and in fact, the driver was fined 850 hryvnias there, even though the same court that examined it could revoke at least a driver's license there from six months to a year. in contrast to this, we have a national anti-corruption bureau, which raised suspicions a little in due time . the people's deputy understood that well, he can actually get a term, so if today two years from now, so and uh, well, he went to the agreement, uh, the agreement really provides for a fine, the only thing is that 6 million is
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exactly the condition of the agreement, which is not related exactly as for the punishment, he will be fined uah 68,000, which is, unfortunately, the maximum fine under this article. well, the main thing is that he will have a criminal record. in essence, he will be deprived of his mandate. the fact that he now voluntarily wrote a statement there, well, it does not really matter because in any - in any case, after the verdict of the court, after 30 days, it would have gained legal force and, well, a convicted person cannot be a deputy again . she loses automatically, and well, really, he will transfer uah 6 million, allegedly, according to the agreement, to armin droniv, and he is also there will compensate to the state, all the costs of examinations and well, i think that access to any serious government positions for this person, too, and in the next parliamentary elections, whenever they are not held, he will not be able to run for office based on this, well, actually, if we are talking about elected positions, of course, after the criminal record is expunged after a certain time, yes, he will be able to run for office
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, the question will be for the people, will they vote for a party in which there are candidates trukhin, if we are talking about non-elected positions, and the positions are given by competition open where there is of the competition commission, it would be very strange if a person with such a background was appointed to some notable position, that's why well, i see more advantages in this, in fact, moreover , the sanction of article e-e regarding a little on e did not foresee, for example, the confiscation of property and even if he were convicted there up to two years in prison, all the same, all the property is left there, and here we have uah 6 million. so there were certain other problems in the case, for example , the same policemen, according to the head of the dbr, mr. sukhachev, allegedly already gave some other evidence in their i didn't give anything to the investigation and didn't offer them anything. also, the video that the national police shot from bad cameras was destroyed, and in fact, the case involved a video that was in the possession of journalists of ukrainian pravda, yes, and
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the original was conditional, that's why. well, there were questions. so , this case had risks. in court we don't know what the witnesses said or they wouldn't have been pressured. so, in principle, after 3.5 years, if there was no decision and the first appellate station and a little bit, i could simply close this case due to the statute of limitations and would have completely avoided any punishment for that well, you can understand why, for example, the anti-corruption prosecutor's office, on its part, is a bit of a deal-breaker on this proposal. so, in principle , today, well, germany, the negative consequences are precisely for mr. valku's movement, but does it not turn out that he wanted to give a bribe of $150,000 to a police officer, and as a result, he gave this bribe well, he sent this money, he should send this money to armin droniv, but, well, financial . trukhin’s financial problems did not increase much because of this, and it turns out that he, well, remained in svoboda.
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well, really, this amount is 6 million uah. just proves that 150 something because he didn't say that it was the sun, he just said 150 proves that, well, it's obvious that there were unbaked candies in this bag, as he said so, namely, conventional units in dollars , eh, but i can't to say that he simply paid 6 million and redeemed himself because well, after all, he will not be able to decide anything inside the parliament as a deputy. he is a convicted person already, so he has negative consequences associated with a criminal record and well in principle, the presence of a conviction again, it will have negative consequences for him, if in the future he so wants to apply for some serious government positions , i think that he will not forget to apply for serious positions, will he be able to retain influence, we understand here that this is not an ordinary deputy
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in the parliament, he was the deputy chairman of the budget committee , journalists talked a lot about the fact that he is needed. even if the case had been considered by the highest anti-corruption judge, the verdict would not have been delivered tomorrow . well, in at least a year or two, it would have been only the first instance. to influence that well, i don't think that n- for the next year - this issue was somehow resolved and again, well, there was a question: would he receive a real prison sentence, or would the court have ordered something else, because the sanction of the article provided for not only a sentence, but also a fine and restrictions will in essence it would be a mandate the court should choose something specific if it was possible to fully prove all the guilt that well, this case had a risk and about which i spoke about this
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witness and the video and the statute of limitations well, you have mentioned that there is actually a question here and about the actions of the law enforcement officers and the policemen that their testimony has allegedly changed it turns out that by closing the trofina case now, ukraine has lost the opportunity to investigate alleged corruption, and now the ministry of internal affairs has not closed the case, and again, the case is over. well, there is still a chance that they will actually deal with the fact that the shows changed so that the video was destroyed. and what you said about, well, the only thing that will not be dealt with by the sap cartridges, it will be dealt with by other experimental investigation bodies and what the case remains, well, i have great doubts that this will end in something . but again, these are not related things to the fact that it was a case of bribery or to the trifle.
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he is guilty, he committed a crime, it is clear, how about you do you think what will happen to the three-fin district now? let me remind you that he is a majority mp and we also talked on svoboda life about the fact that he allegedly engaged in bribery and indirect bribery of voters when he distributed new year's gifts in his district this year, and what will happen to his district now will he continue to feed him, as political journalists say, it is obvious that in wartime martial law prohibits holding elections there, so if he was a majority member, then the new deputy will not be able to get his seat back but something seems to me it is very bad for him to do with the voters in the district, it would be an investment for him in baku, because what kind of voters are they who will vote for a person who was recognized in a bribe giving to a patrolman. and you believe that you can do it
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in the way if he really there will invest good money in the district, well, it will be a question for the voters if, for example , he will have a criminal record removed or repaid there in the future, and so will you. well, he will legally have the right to be elected there to be elected, so the question is about choosing these if the voters vote for a person tried for a bribe, it's their responsibility, what is this question? it's actually more political in ukraine, despite the fact that now there is a state of war in peacetime, there is already a law on a new election code that abolished the entire majoritarian system, so what can trukhin hope for that this system will somehow be returned well, as far as i understand, there will really be elections exclusively for e-e candidates who belong to a certain party, but this party will submit these elections based on open lists of several candidates who will still be there to conditionally secure some territory, it will not be just a tick for the party, that is why some party will have to take him in
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and you will find out what will be the reputational blow to this party immediately after they include such a candidate in their composition and i think that well i very much doubt that there could be some kind of protégé. it is difficult for me to say, but i understand that for any party that has included a little on its list, this is more of a minus than a plus. it is clear, finally , i want to ask you. what do you think? the authorities tried to save trukhin. we remember how the first days after the accident, the news about the accident changed or disappeared from the sites . well, here we can say that it was done by the authorities or certain people there are connected with friends or trukhin himself, but well, they were very strange things are connected with the same investigation of the road accident by the dbr, so that the section of the highway would have become the road accident, the cameras were taken there for some restoration work, that again the video from the body camera was deleted by the police even before the case was in nabu, what between the moment of the road accident and the moment when

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