[000:00:00;00] then most likely it will be a combination of long-range weapons in the form of artillery or rocket artillery troops and a motivated and prepared e-e reserve of mechanized troops e-e aviation in the form of the so famous expected f-16 is unlikely to affect this course of hostilities personally if very thank you and ten thank you very much for your time and for your expert comments on this difficult topic and i would like to remind our viewers that our interlocutor on the espresso channel was vasyl pavlov, a military historian, the head of a public organization, the center of the military stories so the conclusions and trends are quite interesting and important, and further on our broadcast watch olga lenin with her chronicles

of the information war olya welcomes you i congratulate sergey novuka in a moment we will start good afternoon today we have such a slightly unusual broadcast and its duration is also very unusual, we will talk for an hour - to talk about the information war that has been going on for the first year against our country, we will talk about how it affects ukraine. actually rolled over this year, but first of all, let's look at such a selection, which was made by unknown to me, but definitely good people, and which seems to me to show very well the result of this war for russia, there are literally a few days left.

near kiev, on the 3rd, 5th, at the most, on march 8, the enemy will rise and ukraine will understand everything near kiev, this is a war , progress with words, well, maxim and kiev will take it so quickly. half a day, two days later

, the city will fall. glory to ukraine well, actually, the russian propagandists themselves also understand the extremely disappointing consequences of this invasion. and the generally disappointing consequences of this year for them are that russia’s special operation in ukraine has been going on for an hour and a half from achieving its goals . the united states of america and the entire so-called collective west are behaving like this. if we were not capable of some kind of counterattack we, in turn, are only demonstrating, we continue to demonstrate peacefulness, we are still in white

gloves. этой минуте, after all, they haven't started yet. everything that the russians could use conventional types of weapons, tomorrow they will use the fact that nothing works with them, this is of course their problem . and what did they achieve during this year, and what did russia achieve? let's take a look. i don't really believe in myself. everything is honest now. everything is open, that is, russia is an enemy, and it will defeat russia. it is declared that there are no such things. the collective mind says that we must defeat russia. and every person is the president, the prime minister, the minister and the minister. of foreign affairs personally takes the oath and says that we need to impose military pressure on russia to some extent, this is somewhat similar to a meeting of the security council of russia .

recognitions of the dnr of the lnr i like to review here, uh, such a storm of emotions on the faces of such highly respected high-ranking people, and give orders to people , they speak. there were options that yes, we want to defeat the russians, but there really are no other options, but it is interesting that he mentioned how putin, on the eve of the invasion , polled his closest circle about the fact that luhansk should be annexed donetsk region is not needed. you all understood that this would lead to some kind of military action, er, and the reaction of this immediate environment, which understood that they were trying to make them accomplices and show it literally on live tv. look, everyone is participating in this. no one can be the cleanest of the russian leaders, and actually they weren't very happy about it, but

here's what they interviewed and what everyone knew what was going on, let's remember how people lied at the beginning of the war more precisely, at the beginning of the invasion, because the war has been going on since the 14th year. in the 14th year, there was a major invasion for the first time, when crimea was captured, so what actually happened in the 22nd year at the beginning of the year, for example, what was said and how it was said, what was not they will not attack. for example , zakharova is the spokesman of the ministry of foreign affairs in fact, in the 19th, they fill in this date, february 19, 22nd, what she said was such a fake thing. in disinformation, you throw slanders . well, i don’t know what lies are called. well

, i haven’t seen them in a concentrated form for a long time. что можно казать today, we celebrate another day of non-attack on ukraine from the point of view, so to speak, of the dear sense and reality. well, in those days , that's what the kremlin spokesman said , putin's spokesman shouted together. the president will remember the story, but let's say so history, after all, they have recently fallen into trouble, not very well, but we remind you that russia has never been attacked by anyone in its entire history. russia, which has survived so many wars, is the last country in europe that even wants to talk about the knows the history, a year has passed and here is the propagandist of the russian federation in order to raise the morale of its troops and in general

, somehow to attract the masses to the war for more years , they tell a completely different story - no , russia has never led a defense, it turns out most of it was attacks attacks on other countries, see well, one thing is defensive wars, the other thing is offensive well, i will tell you, among other things , that the famous russian commander alexander suvorov did not participate in any of the wars. call me a mutton war in which suvorov, as it were, participated. that is, in the full sense of the word, he never engaged in it . conditionally speaking, i am talking about the reflection of aggression. yes, we are also here a little bit. it seems to me that shot there a whole system of well-founded, well, such a thing, yes, that’s all voluminous . why the pathos in relation to the great war, we are a little bit so, too , we ourselves, er, grumbled about this topic that if we were attacked, that’s it, yes, that is, there is no way to second it to be but er to our orthodox pacifist it

is longing to study the history there pre-revolutionary history of russia carefully and you will see a lot of longing there that is not suitable for any defensive wars at all not on any side it does not fit because this one was demanded национально интересы россии, including because russia in general, the main carrier of the orthodox faith is what the orthodox faith has to do with attacking its neighbors and in general , it is not clear to everyone, but you see no defensive wars, that is normal, that is, it is very frank. i would say e- he is a propagandist, and this date, february 19, is interesting, it is worth knowing because, if you say it like that, it is more comprehensive now, when we look back, i can say that there is a day when russia started in its information space in essence an open attack on ukraine and this is, in principle, there are enough

confirmations for this, for example, you know what it's called , it came at the time of simply wonderful stories, for example, not so long ago, they interviewed a volunteer on the channel of the ministry of defense of the russian federation from luhansk, who a young guy fought all this year, who even received some awards there, and here are his memories of how the war began for him, well, in fact, this was an invasion and such a hot phase of the war, look, i can't give any objective , reasonable answer to the question учебы i still understood this, it was february 19, friday, they wrote to me that i don’t have a tv on there. pasechnik, the head of the lpr , he means that he is talking about the fact that they have activated military actions that ukraine is bringing troops

to our borders. well, on the 20th, i announced mobilization in the same evening, i collected my things and in the morning, on the 21st, i went to the collection points , that is, on february 19 , he was already at the collection point. there was no mobilization in ukraine , they thought it would not attack, and then listen to how he says how he found out, eh, now the bambili of the donbass are constantly telling about it. it is because of this that the boy remembered at least once that he heard explosions and therefore understood how the war began . well, i don't know. probably 60% of the residents of ukraine how the phase began and from the fact that bombed and we found out that the war started at four in the morning at five we even heard it heard even in the western regions of ukraine it's not that i'm not saying

it on the line of contact er there luhansk donetsk and this guy turns out to have heard from the tv from pasichnyk from the head uh of the occupation administration that someone there is charging something, something is happening, apparently some actions have intensified and that is why we are announcing something there, that's all. because that's how it was, it was a legend. when the shelling of the ukrainian territory began on february 17, i talked about it at the end of the year so when i had such a final annual program. anyone who wants to can watch it, i told in detail how on february 17, the russian federation began shelling the contact line in luhansk , donetsk. there, in luhansk, they targeted a children's kindergarten to school miraculously there. no one was hurt. the children did not die. it was just a great miracle, and at that time they probably expected that there would be some kind of response, that now a hundred ukrainian

troops would start hitting something and they would then be able to say that something has started, everything is happening , nothing has happened. there are no ukrainian troops. they did not organize such shelling of peaceful cities, they simply responded to the military goals that existed at that time, and that was it, and it was more than that, again, i told this at the beginning of this hot phase to on february 24, peaceful citizens who should have died, yes. that is, they say that they shelled donbas like this. during these first two months of the 22nd year , exactly one peaceful person died in the occupied territory, and he died because he was shot by some local bandits at a checkpoint, even all this it was local people who shot him there and it was the only civilian victim at that time. and how many victims, tell me this year in

donetsk alone? well, i think there have been several dozen if not hundreds for a long time. and this is the result, that's how donbas was defended well and actually you know very well the russian propagandists themselves are documenting how they tell one of them, dmytro kulikov, how he actually provided media support for the beginning of the great invasion, how he went to donetsk for this purpose, also on february 19, look unevenly on the 17th well, i think that it is necessary to somehow report the time of entry into this special military operation on the 17th , the shelling began

. managed to do first of all, so that you understand the atmosphere. only the 19th of the year in donbass means in donetsk. you led the evacuation because you received information to bomb donetsk itself. была просто недела sverhminirovaniya i will explain the situation to you because there was nothing to show because you walk around the center of donetsk , there was nothing anywhere, i say everything is calm , the guy came, he has to do something he went out right near the hotel where he lives and decided to show that there was mining and tell something there. well, after that he went to show the mobilization, see on the same day he went to the assembly point because

the mobilization was announced and here it is, here it is right there in donetsk, on the evening of the 19th, the bus only put things down, i think

about starting the topic, it runs. the kingdom of heaven is documented by vladimir zhoga, because that’s why it’s the same thing, on the morning of the 20th, in my opinion, or on the morning of the 19th, at the airport. the airport was already shelled on the 21st, and one of the recognized republics met him in donetsk on the square, sasha kots. yulia checherina at the black point, it's good that i came, i'm saying thank you because it delivered to the people there, well, some such distraction and the opportunity to talk to

be photographed. отправления буссов there, the bus was almost fully equipped again. you know, this is a big soviet climatograph, we often saw it in the cinema, the leads are here, the door of the bus is standing, a guy and a girl are saying goodbye , the couple is staying, she is already here. yes, and well, i also talked with them and said that they are waiting for them in russia, and you know , when did i hear? i only have one question , here is sergey kozu, where are you

? it’s time for the authorities. these little pictures of hearts, all of this is so downright cute and it’s about time, it’s february 19, i’ll remind you, february 19, that is, for a few more days , they were just filming there all day and telling how it was. a month in donetsk got better, well, well, i won't, they sit all the time somewhere near muscovy, there's nothing for them to sit in. let them sit at home , let them go and fight so that the next thing will happen. i have not been from ukraine for a long time, although this is the question. well, let's take a look. i have never seen it anywhere, for example, the consolidation of the west and their such powerful support

of our enemy. it is clear that we will withdraw from ukraine with ukraine. we fought the first recent war and won it. we have to protect, and then, well, something happened. i, too, completely another reality, another reality, special military operations, war. no, this is reality, not another, this is all. the same reality and in this reality, they thought to themselves, what if they attack to the country, then they will be able to show you all these beautiful pictures for the world and the world will say yes, yes, what happened ? you have to think about it, it is not so clear, but suddenly it did not happen like that, everything turned out here, it is clear that you attacked a neighboring country, you are just aggressors and i guess you should be hit on the head for that, because it is impossible and it shouldn't be like that, you can attack neighboring countries. and yet, they were very surprised by this. well, i don't know who you have to be to be surprised by this. well, in reality

, they didn't say that ukraine was defeated even now it is not known who they are fighting with, but even i would say solovyov disagrees with her that the beys from dnipropetrovsk and kharkiv won the sum of chernihiv and maybe i am just what is the point of me ? a large population center so that well, i remember it well, i understand that the second war well, it's just that there's something terrible about the fact that they hit moscow and drowned. what did russia respond to? in kiev , the decision-making center of the general staff was destroyed.

on defense so far, there is no russian territory that has not been destroyed, how many are already under attack and kursk in the belgorod region of ukraine, the russians somehow responded harshly to this , yes. not so much . well, the conflict with nato is understandable by ear. russian propaganda for this year uh, this is a path from the desire to capture more territory of ukraine to simply wanting to kill more people without any uh, victory, hope for victory, just to kill more people this does not mean that they are not they want to capture more territories of ukraine, of course they want to, but they understand that this is, well, a futile hope. that's why now all russian propaganda is aimed only at one more murder , and it doesn't matter what theirs is, not theirs . in fact, it is they who are now preaching that we took kyiv in three days, and kyiv was like that kakim masol now, yes, the ruins

of hundreds of thousands of dead , if not millions, would have been covered, and here he was standing on a completely destroyed theater of military operations . well, clean it up, there is nothing left, if we say that you are like that, kyiv is the mother of russian cities, yes, it is the mother of russian cities. well, if it is necessary for kiev to remain ruined, there was our flag on top, even on the ground . i think it is necessary to lead like this we are fighting everywhere why are you sitting and we are worried, i will never understand well that's how they fight others, they just gave some kind of technique well, in principle, these are the attitudes after uh, well, you know , propaganda first tried to come and

tell that they were firing, then it turned out that there is a huge resistance of the population, no one is felt in the release, everyone is rebelling, after that they tried to demoralize the army, demoralize the population, tell us some horrors that everyone is being killed, that the soldiers at the front are being killed in some way to encourage them to surrender as prisoners, this russian information company also failed the next thing is that they tried to bombard cities to lead to the fact that the population will begin to demand something there, well, it is not known that signing peace on any terms is probably also nothing it worked out and after that, when it was already clear that it still wouldn’t work, now it’s just a matter of destroying everything, and when we dealt a serious blow to the energy industry, well, in kiev, why are you electricity ? everything else, and according to our data, there are irises on every street, their patriots

are not strong, they hide there in the best case, green tea also climbs out, even sticking out its nose, but it’s definitely not a bad thing, they broke it, let’s move on to it . it’s not enough yet, let’s write how much месяц честный месяц will wait for two and two, let's wait . well, that is, two, the main thing is to just destroy it more. well, actually, about this whole situation that has arisen in us now , about what we see. the director of the situation modeling agency er. congratulations er. oleksia, look. during this year, there was such an information conflict that for you it was absolutely such an expectation. and what, on the contrary , turned out to be a surprise. i will answer that for me, for example, it was completely expected that the russian society would readily and without an opening enter into this war, they will justify the atrocities of their army

there, the murders of the civilian population, they will justify all this. i was surprised that despite many years of funding and traditions of russian propaganda there, they could not come up with anything bright, that is, they constantly cry that there is no support for this war, that they cannot even create songs beautiful and that they haven't changed their ideology so far, this is my impression, what is your impression, well, it's unexpected. yes, nothing like that, i just remember the first month, for example, the broadcasts that were there, and when we were constantly talking about something there. i listened to other experts, this is unexpected for me. well , first of all, i i agree with you about the russian people, for me it is my hope absolutely i did not doubt it without it

, the russian elite doubted it themselves , but this opposition is russian, many russian intellectuals doubted it thought that it would cause some opposition, i didn't doubt it. it seems to me that one more person didn't pack it. putin himself didn't doubt his people, who he probably really knows anyway. i also didn't doubt that he had an inherent at the beginning, i will now say about the narsus perception, not about what was told in russia in three days, after all, we have a much more democratic country, but here it is constantly a-a that russia will bend economically in the coming months, so that there will be problems that i won't be enough for a long time and so on. well, it's me as well as now i will tell you that this is not a surprise for me, putin in this regard, putin

turned out to be a very pragmatic person and remains a pragmatic person, as well as his entire speech stan, which was devoted to the economic part, there are of course a lot of fantasies about everything else, but the main thing is he considers it his personal point of view that the market economy is the best option for the existence of the state and the market economy cannot become the narratives of the soviet union yes, russia did not do what they demand, not because it is not so good and good, because it is not the soviet union, and it is not possible for them , just simply, there is no possibility, so what if putin believed that he needed a tactical nuclear strike he would have hit. yes, he simply did not see at this stage that there is something positive. from this, everything else can happen

. they have already tested everything on us . this is all that is currently available in the russian army from the point of view of this. we are not they can't bomb with mastite because they don't have the height of this precise weapon because it's very difficult to get over the bridge, let's say so . everyone, the story about strengthened it about taking it in three days, by the way, he is there, well, it’s a lie, they don’t always ignore all these facts, but the mass was taken for 9 months, and before it started, the current is real, they gave the opportunity to get out of this public population, this is how it will go, there were only militants left who simply ran around the ruins of this

en masse well, they committed against a-and that's why you and this, again , it's all a lie, that is, they did everything possible, well, the state of the russian army at the moment this is what we see. if there were others in russia, it is possible for us to destroy the entire system of army training and morale in general by involving these convicts and throwing them into the military cause . there are no such mechanisms regarding propaganda, i watched it at the beginning of the program, well, it is obvious that how is it obvious that there is no ideology, because there is no specific instruction, but there is simply no clear instruction, we understand that what we see is that sebayan says one thing aa, nightingale says others third-node says yes, sometimes they