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[000:00:00;00] and that's why you and this, again, it's all a lie, that is, everything they can do is simply, well , the state of the russian army at the moment. this is what we see. you are throwing these convicts into the military cause, why do it if everything is supposed to have another mechanism, which means that there are no such mechanisms regarding propaganda. because there is no specific instructions, but there is simply no clear instruction, we understand that we see that semenyan says one thing, and siloyvov says others, scabiev says that the third-node says yes, sometimes they are among
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themselves, well, it is not that there is a contradiction, but there are certain moments because the main person who decides everything in the country she does not give specific ideologies, so to speak, yes. why is there no ideology, why is there not, how do they really say that they have no music, no patriotism there? well , there is none of that. because there is nothing to build it on, because putin wants it all to remain in such a fog, if you you will clearly say as goals operations, yes, the military, if you clearly say that this is literally the case, we must go there, he did not say that we must take it to kyiv in three days, so he did not have such a thing, he constantly changes some, he has children , the liberation of donbas, he has the closed sea of azov, he still has it, that is, everything is in such a fog, so to speak. first, it is the nazi regime, then we have to negotiate
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, then the nazis again. at first they were drug addicts, then they are no longer drug addicts, well, roughly speaking, he allows the points so that he cannot be caught rudely speaking in hot and say a you said to do it and you didn't do it, so to speak, now what the propagandist is talking about for their problems, i want us to take a quick look now, because they , uh, right, well, for the anniversary , they think they have decided to pay off some ideology, judging by everything, it is an ideology this concert by the plowmen is a concentrated solution to the expression of this road and is a key element - it is russia that has always fought with the west, well, let's see, because this is the 17th century polish-lithuanian intervention
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nizhny novgorod people's militia the enemy from the capital for 18 years northern war peter i's victory over poltava and the russian empire appeared on the world map 19th year napoleon's invasion the first patriotic war when the partisan popular movement played a decisive role in the destruction of many national napoleonic wars napoleon's great army was not more than half of the french representatives of 20 european states 20th century two world wars the bloodiest in the history of mankind history does not change itself from today at the beginning of the 21st century we are again against the west that is, this and it is well-known here their stories that the second world war was fought against them all of europe , where was britain, for example, it is not clear how it happened that britain
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was bombed already in the 40th year and where at this moment was russia fighting , it is not clear, well, more precisely, the soviet the union, but this is actually the ideology that they are pushing now. no, i don’t really think so, it will be until they try, of course, but that’s all. at the olympics, that's all in principle, there is nothing new, yes. the great history of the great country, but what is there in common between the russian empire and the soviet union , except for the size and the effort to buy it from a biological point of view? there is nothing in common. that is, everything is so artificial, so to speak , so it looks the best . the best moment of the performance in general of the concert in
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luzhniki, which shows the absurd absurdity of this , such, such, excited postmodernism even i would say yes russians which are difficult to pull on anything at all it is usually singing eh blood group eh cinema yes anti-war song yes yes about afghan he understood what this song is about well, my older generation, you all understood what this song was about the song, and in principle, that's why it was so popular, so alive and still lives, in principle , and it is also a rally that supports the war. first of all, there are no clear goals and understanding, but that's fine. oh, the russian world, that's it
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the main problem that no one else can answer is that we see these bearded men. we saw kutuzov , we see someone else there. what does it give to a modern person? it's just that this bad western world , roughly speaking, is closed gives them everything, that is, they a- and the microphones are speaking, i’m sure they are russian, not russian-made, so they are shot and 100% not russian equipment, so successfully speaking they arrived, no report is needed , thank you, thank you, they all came to me, i’m fine , how can i tell you about the time, it didn’t work, not about this bass girl and well, yes, the actors who play these roles, that is, what are they, if they can’t stand up, they can only take away a modern person to live, i ’m not talking about the russian, about the world in general , so to speak, yes, we will be more than a second
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excuse me, please, it was oleksiy holobutskyi. and then we have to continue the conversation with our other guest and talk about how the ukrainian society itself perceived this year, how it survived it, so let's continue watching this conversation. greetings to yevhen ivanovich this is yevhen ivanovych holovakha director institute of sociology of the national academy of sciences of ukraine well, let's start directly with the most important question, the year is the year of the total phase of russia's war against ukraine, and how did the ukrainians survive this year and what can you say about the state of ukrainian society as a sociologist after this year ? well, i would say so difficult we survived not very psychologically, physically well, but the main thing is that we disappointed the russian state and the league, or where did they hope that they would be able to
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destroy us psychologically, morally and physically, this was strategy number two after i would have opened it, but they should be very disappointed. ukrainians really received a lot of stress, psychological injuries , psychological and social, and really, if you take it by objective indicators, they have lost a lot, starting with the economy and ending with lives and health. the incredible thing about our people is that despite all these difficulties, the problem of loss of life, ukrainians have significantly improved their attitude towards
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the state and its political institutions compared to last year on the eve of the war the punitive atmosphere in society and the main identity significantly ukrainian identity state political essential rose up and how does it all look in numbers let's see it's very interesting precisely in numbers it will be about we managed uh at the end of this year thanks to the help of scientists of our friends abroad to conduct further, the annual monitoring study, which since april 1992, we started at the institute of sociology of the national academy
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of sciences in december last year in cooperation with by the kyiv international institute of sociology with its survey network, we conducted this study. and here are the interesting and most interesting results of this study . as for what i recommended from above, the first thing is that ukrainians have changed their attitude towards the state, so let's look at the data of november 21 44% of the year had strong negative attitudes towards the state, and
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moderate negative attitudes in 12 and 4 and 55. but in december , only 5% were clearly negative. compare 44.5, yes, it’s just how it is. the difference is some kind of change, and it’s also a positive one. if it was in november 21st, there were only 7% of positive shares. 7% of ukrainian citizens had a generally positive attitude towards their country. well, who was the security situation?
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? well, there were telepresidents for literally several months , and then it all started to fall and reached the same level in the 21st year. there are no such leaders, see 44%, there are 26, that is, they generally see a leader in whom it is possible to entrust the management of the country. meant, not by chance, in our institution, those called purely without trust, ukrainians did not trust any political institutions at all, and in the same way in the twelfth 13th and we see them ourselves in the 21st 44 they do not trust 26 only
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they will trust now look at december 22 of this year they trust 60%, but you don't. well, you see, it's simple , i would say so, such an understanding that there can be in the country and this is something good, ukrainians saw that they have real political leaders who can, among these leaders, the highest rating is given first of all to the head of the army, general for alkaline ukraine zelenskyi is the best - they get the most, in principle, yes, ukrainians finally may the adoption of a state in the world like russia
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. i think that in reality, when the state can protect itself and it has shown that it can do it, it really changes people's perception , mistrust of the state is such a reflection of a certain disbelief in yourself well, because no matter what anyone says but the population is what the state is made of, that's how things have changed here . confidence in one's ability to influence one's own destiny is a very important quality. which is the opposite of what we call fatalism, i.e. believed in what the people told you to live and all that i live life and that you do nothing will change, you are a fatalist if you believe no matter what you do nothing
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will change, it is clear in you don't have any idea what you need to do to change your life, and you don't even have the drive to change anything. and if you don't, why do anything, if your fate is determined anyway , well, such a learned helplessness. we many times tried to create their own state and everything ended. that's why ukrainians, living in this, they did not recover from learned helplessness, they believed that the opportunity to create now, although a wonderful prospect was opening up, i ask you to understand, i am now sphotolising, do
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you believe that every person is written in a certain percentage believed in the fact that he wrote to the people, so he writes. and only 22 23 believed, that is , we still had statements from non-fatalists and 59% of fatalists, those who believed that you will not be able to do anything with your destiny, and already this year our situation has changed. i can't say that it has finally changed, but everything and the situation is completely different for those of us who don't believe, everything
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means that now fatalists no longer define the atmosphere of society in our country, the situation is still not such that we can say that in we are completely outnumbered by people who believe in the possibility of changing fate, but there are already more of them than those who do not believe. infantilism in to ukrainian society is it fair now, and is it infantilism? this was a natural feature of our society, because it was really very young, in fact, we practically got out of the colonial situation when ukraine
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was actually, well, colonially dependent on the soviet government. that is why we had to build absolutely on the whole society, practically , only the people were first born, then she experienced this sta-standards really well, i would say so conventionally , uh, the child phase of development, and well, what about this very shock that we first received in the 14th year however, received on february 24 last year, they significantly changed the state of ukrainian society, i can tell you concretely what it means for ukrainian society to get rid of soviet dependence
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in the 14th year, that is, we had it even before the 14th year when we asked when we asked how do you feel about integration in the post-soviet 55% of our community now supported the idea that the post-soviet space should be somehow internalized, you can imagine 57%, 57% of us were criticized for the soviet union. and it's not only nahersa, even lithuanian ones my colleagues point out that a lot of - at the beginning of independence in lithuania , there was an overwhelming majority of those who insisted, but they quickly
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got rid of this nostalgia . 60% of ukrainians did not insist on the soviet union , while 25% were clearly oriented towards integration with the european union. 20-25 different polls would like to integrate in the yard space it the 14th year, and it is finally finally over, the idea of reintegration will simply be over, now you support only two or three percent , all this is just a complete break with the soviet so-so, all this is over, the idea of returning to the european space, that is , it has become dominant and i can already see that these are russia's strategy will not change, but now in this war, it is in principle. they are trying so
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much more than as if to drag it out and count on the fact that they will be able to shake ukrainian society, so there will be war fatigue, and ukrainian society will start here internal they will be able to do some kind of internal unrest there again, and what will this allow them to do, you know? well, to do something like that and a trick like in 2015, when they started thinking that something could be agreed upon somehow. how realistic are these expectations in general, given the attitudes of the population that now there is no psychological fatigue. and this is my methodology for finding out the psychological stability of the population, that is , there are no fundamental changes in fatigue, and according to our data, there is no such thing, but there is a different
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situation there, it is somewhat unsatisfactory, that is, corruption studying corruption cases well, let's say that it was connected with the purchase , this all changes a little the attitude towards certain political institutions, let's say if we compared with injuries, then i have some decrease trust and valuable activity to me, in this case, we did not look at it opinion centers in november, i know in december as well. well, there i did not see a significant decrease in trust, namely in the assessment of the government's activity, it is still mostly
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positive assessments, mostly positive, but they are not as high as they were, say, in the morning yes, that is, the basic basic stability still remains high. but there are different people who show how they feel now, that means 97%, 95% believe in victory, we are like this and only uh, one there and two tenths do not believe in victory, i believe that this victory will be achieved, it is the nearest a year is a dominant position, it is more than half, and we will win this year, but i must tell you that in the same may , the majority believed that it would be necessary in a few months , that is, you understand, now there is a process of adjustment
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for a longer period, ukrainians also understand what a terrible enemy does not exhaust them, it does not undermine the faith in victory that ukrainians can be a little more comparable to the old one, a little more critical attitude well, this is normal, because they really should stimulate all our political structures of the institution to improve their activities, and this is very good, i think that this is what defines a democratic country as opposed to a totalitarian one, because people here are not afraid to express their opinions, they have no fear when my russian colleagues tell me that they have 70 80% of them supporting putin, that's fine with me
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they sit funny to me. i say that i despise them in general, because instead of the palace, that this putin leads the country simply with aftarka. and sociologists cannot help but understand this absolutely . anyone can not understand this, and you should not understand into what abyss he is pushing his a country when they say 70-80 for god's sake well, it's funny there in general in the soviet union 99 % supported everything because they understood that otherwise they would persecute me too and you too are afraid to say good no they are not afraid they uh express their evaluations in may better now they are different and when they arise that we will win 97%. they believe in this and believe me, they will stick to this position for a very long time and will endure it. although i understand that the losses are great, it is a great stress, great
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injuries, let's hope that people's expectations are finally realized. no, they are ready to reorganize and still endure as long as necessary, and correctly, because they understood what a terrible enemy that this enemy is consistent, that his purpose is mysterious, where a hoax and simply the destruction of the ukrainian state and with it the destruction of ukrainians. they understand this with this enemy as long as it is necessary for our country to develop and exist, and they, the russians, can not expect exhaustion, and we can even see this from the way the ukrainians perceived
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the disconnection, absolutely patient they expected that he was the key, that there was a marker for the end, no, the ukrainians took it as the norm and golovakha, director of the institute of sociology of the national academy of sciences of ukraine. thank you, yevhen, and well , we believe, we believe in our victory people are ready to endure all this by the percentage of ukrainians. thank you very much. i feel chained to a chair. everything is starting to annoy me. there is no convenient moment for pain, but there is a yellow cream. dolgit cream
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