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[000:00:00;00] 12 steps where the territorial integrity and sovereignty of each country is taken into account first, since it is our sovereignty that is being violated. i hope that it is about us in this context. at the same time, this peace plan clearly shows china's attempt to balance its relations with the russian federation. by the way there are already reflections, in particular , from the secretary general of nato and from ursula von derlein regarding this, so to speak, of the peace plan, with her so peaceful or semi-peaceful initiative, marie is ready to speak in the same way lopen is known in principle in france, the politician is known in particular for her putinophile views, in a certain way russophile views, who engaged in sparring in the presidential elections with
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emmanuel macron, and i would not say that her defeat was fundamentally convincing in those electoral races, but less so however , lupin is not in power now, but he advocates the creation of some kind of platform for such a comprehensive conference to resolve the situation in ukraine, lupine calls on france to convene a conference to quickly achieve for peace in ukraine, the right populist national e national e national association and its leader maria penn calls on france to create such a platform e le pen begins the letter and condemns the russian aggression words about the actions of the russian federation cannot be justified by anything , she calls them a political moral error that violates all legal principles, she also notes that the war is a colossal tragedy for ukrainians and civilians and the defense forces , at the same time she complains about the economic consequences
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of the russians for europe itself and declares the lack of composure of some of our pickpockets and poorly controlled emotions, as a result of which irresponsible belligerent statements began to be heard, which risk escalating the confrontation even more, she stated that now it is a historical and moral calling for france to exert maximum influence and diplomacy, and on the occasion of this tragic anniversary, france must take the initiative regarding the peace conference that gave you the opportunity to the warring parties to their my suffering population and the whole world the prospect of a peaceful and quick exit from the conflict writes mari lopen yes, do we have the next guest, yes. so far, you know. my colleagues have prepared for you, for the anniversary of the great war, a lot of really high-quality, and in my opinion, very emotional materials, and this is absolutely normal. when
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journalism helps, well, let's say to survive certain emotions of the ukrainian society, which is now traumatized by the war, definitely and er, when we remember our path, we cannot ignore what happened at the beginning and under what real threat the ukrainian capital was then. how not to love you, my kyiv, from the beginning of the full-scale wars and kyiv has changed, it is bright and noisy, it has turned into a city with military needs, the capital has survived the onslaught of shelling, a series of blackouts and how our kyiv has changed, further in the story kyiv is under martial law and the opposing headquarters of the capital decided as soon as possible in connection with military aggression, the morning of february 24
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began due to the siren of long queues and panic, citizens left the ukrainian capital on pemeghu avenue , a 20 km long traffic jam was formed in march 2022, the population of kyiv decreased to 800,000 olga and her family - one of those who remained on february 24, the girl was planning a dream trip to norway, but instead she was forced to hide in the basement of her own house. actually, this is our basement in which we lived from the end of february until the middle of april. the work at this table was made simply from improvised materials . everything remained as it was before . the girl could not sit and be afraid. she decided to fight the enemy on the information front. olya appeared on the airwaves of foreign channels and
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told foreign reporters the reality of the military capital, oli oleksandra's sister. despite her young age, she couldn't stay away either. the girl started volunteering and weaving camouflage nets for our defenders . she used to go here. well, here in the area, she used to feed nets to us, but it was not enough, and we went there, near kyiv. for the summer, and there i met people there, and i started to post grids there permanently on a permanent basis. the russians cannot take kyiv in three days . our defenders in april 2022 repelled all attempts by the russians to seize the capital soon the invaders are expelled from the region to their homes, a significant number of kyiv residents are returning to their homes, cafes, restaurants, shopping centers are opening the doors of public transport, and the subway, which sheltered hundreds of thousands of kyiv residents during the air raids, is finally carrying
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passengers again, maintaining the city in a viable state we managed to do it, uh, this also in the great part of the city, the expenditure item of the city budget increased. at the beginning of the full-scale war, the capital was forced to change its expenses. uah 1 billion was directed to protection, namely law enforcement agencies, territorial defense and the national guard. in the same year, a new item of expenditure appeared in the budget, it is not parks and squares, but the reconstruction of destroyed housing, we have about 700 damaged objects registered today, and most of them are e- it has been restored today, it is especially pleasing that we managed to restore all the houses that were significantly damaged, and the appearance of the capital city of kyiv has changed. people are used to seeing anti-tank hedgehogs and concrete fortifications on the streets, and
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air raid signals in the capital too have become commonplace for security reasons, they even stop ground public transport during this period of downtime, the city lost almost uah 2 billion. the nightlife of the capital has also been banned since the beginning of the full-scale war in kyiv, as in other regions of ukraine , a curfew was introduced. this complex of all measures allowed the situation to be controlled for sure since it developed and was in the city of kyiv, you can now look back and say something, it was possible to introduce some restrictions, maybe you don’t need to remove them, but at that time these were decisions, well, simple decisions which had to be accepted, and they were also accepted by the military, all at the kyiv city state administration, because they understood what the final goal was supposed to be of these corresponding restrictions. yes, kyiv changed during the war and a difficult year, but the most important changes did not take place in the appearance of the capital while i was preparing this material, i proposed to draw a bunch of boundaries in the capital with
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the onset of a full-scale war, but the most important answer to the question of what has changed in the capital was given to me by you kyivans. i think that the main thing that has changed is the ukrainians because now there are not those people who, i think, are indifferent to the fact that they work, what is happening in our country , it seems to me that people have become kinder, somehow they want to communicate and help regardless of anything, they somehow understand that if we are not there, we are not there at the front, we must work to make it easier for ukraine. people have changed their relationship with each other and in general with what is happening. it seems to me that people have changed primarily because there will be no more first sirens after the first explosion, it will never be the first time for us, and we already know how to deal with it anyway, and i just walk down the street. i see that there is nothing like last year, people do not panic, people are not afraid, despite the threat
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of a new attack, a series of blackouts and numerous restrictions, citizens do not leave kyiv in general , the kmda estimated that about three million people now live in the capital, two-thirds of them have returned to their native homes after the forced evacuation dmytro didura oleksandr burlevych andriy verstyuk and oskar janssons the espresso tv channel really wants all our people to return home from the forced evacuation to ukraine, whom we are usually waiting for, and indeed the defense forces of ukraine are trying to do everything possible to ensure that this moment comes as soon as possible. well , for now, let's talk about the un general assembly, which was held the day before yesterday of the first anniversary of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine , supported the resolution in which, in particular , the peace formula was enshrined as it is proposed by ukraine, of course there were those who
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voted against, there were those who abstained, but literally the majority of the participating countries 141 states voted in favor of contacting us maria ionova people's deputy of ukraine committee on foreign policy of the verkhovna rada mrs. maria i congratulate you thank you that uh , in time constraints, still find an opportunity to join the broadcast thank you glory to ukraine thank you very much for the invitation, well, you know such people, and it is sad, so tragic, because we still remember the civilian soldiers whom we lost, thanks to whom we keep this struggle close, but also such a day of pride, for the fact that, in fact, everything more and more countries are joining in order to defeat the russian onslaught and down as well. yesterday was voting time for me on un soil, but i would also like to say that today the verkhovna rada of ukraine
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also voted for an appeal to the parliament of education and to artists about e with a call to recognize russia as a terrorist country and that the genocide of the ukrainian people is taking place here, and indeed the first year of a full-scale invasion, the 9th year of the war, and these are serious and especially serious criminal crimes and serious crimes against the rules and freedoms of the ukrainian citizens, and we have to be aware of and work with other countries, sharing information that is already documented, most of us commit crimes. but you and i understood that it is much more because there is no access to the eye and what concerns your question from the assembly indeed, 141 countries is a great and powerful support, but we must realize with you that we have to work
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even more. because the issue is not only sanctions. and the issue of a-a and secondary sanctions, you know, now there were more things that a-a young could still to play such an active role in the settlement of this aggression because everyone here is violating the statute of the united information organization, the russian federation is also violating it now. our prisoners of war know about some things, for some reason, they somehow generate them and turn a blind eye , which is also very disturbing. because some international organizations, including the international red cross, still do not even have access to the temporarily occupied territories of kherson and zaporizhzhia region ago we continue to speak the truth openly, we don't have time, you know only that there were such
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wounded people who also fought against russian aggression and we can afford to say to our friends that they are fed up with misunderstanding and that's why we ask - to speed up the military aid and those countries that have, we are waiting for some weapons for , including we are waiting for the independent policy well, the resolution will be tougher - that 's great a but you and i saw the same and china's proposal for the so-called debt settlement of the a-a conflict and believe me, we also agree with the terminology that these are conflicts, we correct each time, moreover , we correct that not one year a-a war and the ninth is very important in the context of the dignity of honoring and e there are also documented war crimes where
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tens of thousands of our citizens were killed ms. maria very briefly at the end so that you don't delay the really important decision of the verkhovna rada calling on the parliaments of the world to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism we already have her actions as genocide of the ukrainian people. our friends are partners who resorted to such steps. at the same time, we understand that such recognition has legal consequences in the united states, and if the united states takes this step, it will have repercussions and on those countries that in one way or another help russia to circumvent sanctions somewhere continue to cooperate with it very often now it is blamed on china not without reason, what prospects do we have for the united states to take this step well, let's be frank that now the united states states uh
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we meet, we greatly appreciate their support and leadership in the fight against russian aggression, but we do not forget that the main opponent, let's say, is china, and it is not for nothing that china offered its form of so-called peace and its peace proposals, the very first thing, and when there is a resolution and in the organization of the united nations, uh, actually, the plus is that we, although we saw the outline of the proposals, so and so , because we saw that they avoided some things, of course, they did not miss them. well, but let's not forget that they are all, all, all proposals they write through the prism of taiwan
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, that is, based on their national interests , their initiative should not be rejected, so to speak, but they should be drawn into a dialogue and then fight for every particle. broadcast well, if we are already talking about china, then let's talk a little about the reactions to the peace plan that they announced tonight, eh. now let's say eh, what we have ursula von der la is rather coldly perceives, so to speak, the peace plan for the settlement of the war of the russian federation against ukraine . on china's proposal on how to end the war in ukraine, well, it's also very interesting, uh, interesting, such a moment
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is german president frankfalter steinmeier, we remember this man in particular for his peace plans formulas and proposals, he understands this. if it is possible to say so, even he believes that china's peace plan shows that its constructiveness is questionable after all, and it is necessary to talk not only with moscow, but with kyiv . well, i think that no one has any doubts regarding the fact that china communicates much more with moscow than with the russian federation . well, there may actually be different readings here, maybe the problem is that we don’t have diplomatic uh-uh, you know , representative offices in china, it’s possible with this it would be better to decide who stands on this opinion, who thinks that geopolitical china is very interested in what will happen to ukraine, but what will happen to the russian federation is much more important to them , so they are actually communicating with the aggressor state, well, we can talk a lot about this here
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worthy experts will be in touch with us now victor chumak chief military prosecutor of ukraine in 2019-20 p victor congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good day we are talking about the peace plan from china which today let's say it became public 12 points, if you had time to review them somewhere in getting to know each other, i would like to ask you for a comment. well, please, look in principle at the content of this point, the content of this is more true of the peace plan, it should practically be poured into the press, well, let's say four days before it was made public there yesterday. and if to reduce it to very simple things, then in principle there are two things about which we can talk, er, which in principle we will say. yes, you can put a plus sign , these are things about er, you need to respect
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the territorial integrity, sovereignty, er, of all countries, the second thing is the thing about which they said that there cannot be any use of weapons of mass destruction and even threats of the use of weapons of mass destruction cannot be, and everything else, everything else is absolutely unacceptable from our point of view war because, well, this is a declaration, we are talking about the fact that we also declare that we respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of any country , but then china says, you know, let's do it, let's let's fix some kind of armistice, let's stop supplying ukraine and weapons and let's start to agree on something, about which there is a question about what, about the fact that we should respect territorial integrity, so if we want to start some conversations, then let's first start respecting the real integrity, we will leave the territory of the country, and then we will start
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to agree on how to live on, about security guarantees its own guarantees of russia's security and so on, so in principle, as far as i'm concerned, you know it's china's attempt to restore its own subjectivity in our war or in this huge conflict in the world what is happening now on our territory is an attempt to restore subjectivity . china was silent for a year, well , it was actively silent. its position and in order to restore subjectivity as a great power from both, let's say so, a state that claims yes to a certain certain pole in the world, yes, what we are talking about is that the world is moving to you from polar
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to bipolarity, that is, on one policy there will be read on another china, yes, china came out with such a statement, understanding, understanding that this statement is about nothing. so, really, it is about nothing, it will not be accepted by the majority of uh, well, by the majority of countries in general. yes, it was not even accepted, this statement was issued in order that there somewhere to waver or make doubts when voting for our resolution, the united nations organization, but even that did not affect it, there is a stable, there is a stable number, there are approximately 140 countries that absolutely say that russia should first withdraw your troops from the territory of ukraine, and then we will talk about everything else . ah, well, such a thing, he showed himself that his subjectivity in this matter is not that high, moreover, when they say that china is not interested ukraine is more interested in russia, russia will help, and
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i am inclined to evaluate it a little differently. you understand the situation here, china is interested in russia as an inflow of raw materials, because there is a very interesting story that if china needs russian raw materials, the same gas is there. is the same oil itself, it is no longer russia as a monopolist that dictates the prices of china, but on the contrary, india and china dictate the prices of russia because there is a certain ceiling, and secondly, they are the only major buyers of russian carbon. because russia now depends not on the sale but on the purchase of china and oil or gas, and the situation is like this, but all other chinese imports yes, it is calculated even for russia well, there is a little, of course, but it is calculated for the united states and
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the european union so and so the situation at all the situation is different here too, such that china does not want it to, well, you know, come under pressure from the west due to external sanctions today, by the way, a very interesting event happened today, the fad excluded russia from its organization, that is, the fact is that it is fight against corruption and money laundering and he won from russia his members or suspended membership, that is, it is necessary to understand only so superficially, but it is very serious because the countries that fall from the list of fap are safe countries and she fell they are immediately subject to increased assessment, money laundering risks, terrorism sponsorship risks, corruption risks in all the world's banks, and all the world's banks must immediately apply the protocols of increased risks in relation to these countries, and here the situation is even well, i would say that it is more serious
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than being disconnected from swift. thank you, sir viktor well, actually today we are talking about the anniversary of the great war in ukraine, i am still not quite sure what we should call this year correctly, well, for me personally, this war has not been small since 2014, because when the russians enter crimea and capture it, annex the territory, this is an act of military aggression why did someone decide that this scale is smaller than what they will do now, if we are talking about the weapons they use, then definitely here aviation and missiles and everything else, the fleet works well, together however, there are now a lot of different versions of when exactly this war can end, everyone agrees that it will end with our victory if we are talking about the ukrainian military there or analysts, but more and more there is also talk about
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the fact that 100% in 2023 kyrylo budanov is talking about it serhii dai what is the head of the state border service serhii oleksiy danilov actually secretary of the national security and defense council how do you feel about such forecasts in general well, i have a positive attitude towards the forecasts of such people let them talk about it. it uh adds uh well adds some certainty and adds positivity in the lives of people who today are very difficult on the one hand on the other hand of course when such forecasts do not come true they are uh very serious well, let's say so they are putting pressure on the psyche, they are seriously undermining trust in everything like this, here we need to be a little more careful on the one hand, and on the other hand, still be positive , i have my own opinion when the war will end , yes, i have my own opinion about this opinion, by the way, i expressed it somewhere else, well, for example, probably somewhere two weeks ago . and yesterday it was very seriously confirmed by the article
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finational tight yes, which wrote about something about putin starting a war, and a very , very limited number of people knew about it in the closest circle, even there are oligarchs and the government. even lavrov a couple of hours before the start. and when oles, a fenian, quotes the words of lavrov about what he means by putin , there are three advisers and all of them are dead, which to date is ivan the terrible. this is peter. the first is catherine the great and the situation is as i see it today. well, the process, i will not say the term, but the process of ao , yes, how could it be described here, the situation is such that it is clear that russia has reached an impasse , the russian leadership is probably already very large the number understood that they are at a dead end, they don't know how to get out of this dead end, but most likely there are still a lot of people around putin . well, somehow they believe in him as a star because
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he came out of many dead ends . maybe someone there believes that there is some kind of push up yes, i listened today, too. i sometimes listen to these russian propagandists. by god, i didn’t say, i almost said, i think , i say no. sometimes they listened in order to understand the course. i am shocked by the fact that they cannot do anything or cannot influence in any way, and i say that this very seriously undermines the trust in everyone else, they cannot influence the activity of the west in relation to supporting ukraine , that is, the west adds weapons to each other, there were red lines there artillery has arrived, they have crossed the red lines there, they have crossed the red lines, now the planes will also cross the red lines, long-range rockets , long-range weapons will cross the red lines, and they only have
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la-la-la-la-la-la and fields and they can’t do anything to do, and this completely undermines the belief that something can be done , but in fact they can't do anything, you understand. but someone out there can't really do anything, because there are no aces in the sleeve anymore, but no, they were all aces, they are all now is already on the table and everything is laid out, and even that ace , which is called a large, large mobilization reserve, is also not tusk, because well, of course, you can call up another million to give them sticks, give them a hundred thousand weapons, and give 900,000 sticks and tell them to advance to the trenches, and here the situation is like this what will this process be well, the inverses should continue proportionally, yes, that is, in principle, their weapons will decrease, their own weapons, and today there are very serious problems, including, i myself once said that they have a lot of iron shells and the like, but it was lying for a very long time in open areas, standing on in open areas and
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now it is very difficult to use it, including these ammunitions. this is how they are already mentioned and we are with you today as neighbors. china, which still allegedly can decide to help with weapons or not, is north korea for example, which also has certain connections with china and which supplies the russian federation. i am already silent about the iranian ships that sit down in moscow to deliver regularly, but let's simply compare with you. yes, that's 2.5, well, with china it's fine, with china it will be 12 .5% of the world gdp, but here there are 60, almost 60 of the world gdp, 50 countries that are here with us - this is almost 60% of the world gdp, and these are not comparable numbers and not reasonable possibilities, and what is now being launched on a military rail is a military or military e- the economic and
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military potential was the production of a of military means of military-military er of military-technical means in the european union, this is already absolutely becoming known. there , the americans are launching and increasing the production of 155 mm ammunition by a factor of 70. it is a very smart idea for estonia to unite in order to coordinate the purchase of ammunition from ukraine because you know, when one hand doesn't know what the other is doing, it's bad. when it's coordination , it's a completely different story, and the americans say again that they will supply us with a million 155 mm ammunition. this is already serious. numbers 30 seconds summarizing this story, this is how i summarize the situation here, and the situation is such that the war will end when the internal elites of russia around putin will understand that they have completely lost, they will have no other

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