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congratulations friends we continue our broadcast mykola september vitaly portnikov and today's ours is like this i would say a special issue the first year after the great invasion of the russians on ukrainian land is passing how did you spend february 24 panakova i got a call from washington so last exotic and i was told from washington that the war has started i guess i live in such a place which in kyiv, where i did not hear the explosions, many people did, well, that is, their ears responded, i fell asleep and suddenly the bells started ringing, and it was washington. my friend who works in canada came to the interview in washington and called me for a while and said that there is an attack. i woke up my daughter and my wife and said that we had a big war with russia. then i sat in kyiv for three or three and a half weeks, and

i was doing something there . i was writing something. well, they started warning me, and i still probably remain in the minority among people who , well, now everyone knew in advance, everyone understood that we would win. i was afraid, i didn't believe that we would win. at the intersection on my street, i'm like, how, how how did i see this tank alive? what's interesting is that there are different generations. my daughter is 23 years old. she just didn't believe that the russians could do something, capture something, and so on. i believed and then i moved to lviv thanks to espresso. i'm working, called mykola knyazhytsky. well, now i'm working

here, and if nothing has changed in my life, apart from the fact that i'm surrounded by lviv, not kyiv , because i just keep going to work , doing what i did a year ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and it's scary to say 30 years ago i did the same thing that i continue to do and i will tell you frankly that 25 years ago i did exactly the same thing with vitaly the portnik. by the way, i was here in lviv on the 20th of the fourth. on the morning of the 24th , i had to go to kyiv because i was here on business trip, that is, it was such a business trip, he really realized that it was on the verge of war because he came to see how the espresso office here and the radio liberty office were already in lviv so that the office in kyiv was already closed and on the evening of the 23rd, i, too er, they called from tel-aviv and said that there will probably be a big attack, uh, i was told to read the text of newsik, who

, by the way, described the following days quite accurately, but i have to say that i read the text and understood that it was all close to reality , but i have a plane and that's why i went to bed early because i was already woken up by a bomb i woke up at 5 in the morning without an alarm clock with nothing and i saw that on my phone i turn off the phone in any case at night already a million missed by this literally several it started 30-40 minutes before waking up it's strange that that's how intuition worked and i immediately understood that i had to work, there was no chance to do anything else, i began to follow the news , calls, interviews, comments began, and that 's how it was, the morning of the first day, but in lviv it was terrible, i must say then literally lived in the center of lviv and the city was black, these huge queues

to shops and banks all the time sirens of air raids lviv then lviv oblast was bombed very heavily brody some uh novoyavoriv training ground and all the time we never heard that when you you are all the time i didn't know what it was. i'm working . what is it all? can you blow the sirens in the air alarm right here near lviv ? to drink coffee and only one cafe was open. i went to it today . by the way, i specifically went there . i will drink coffee in in this place, but i couldn't say that but what will happen to the territory? i didn't know that, i understood that the troops were going to kyiv. my father, his family, and

people close to me were in kyiv. i understood that they were under such a threat. - the threat was real, besides, you know that there were already conversations about lists about lists of people who escaped, but i did not expand my thoughts on this, but i was leaving kyiv when he called me and said that you are specifically on the lists at a specific place. you are there on such place on the list and if you don't run away now they will they will surround you for sure, they will surround you and these buffer zones will begin when you are checked about what we know from mariupol and they will simply not release you immediately to a concentration camp or somewhere else , it is that it was clearly being prepared in kherson, in mariupol, there were lists for each region . well, what about kyiv i think that this is a small encyclopedia of the encyclopedia of soviet ukraine and post-soviet ukraine, so that if well, but i would say that i learned a lot of interesting things about ukraine just when i was traveling from kyiv to lviv . kyiv is such a rebel city and

rebel territory. and lviv is guerrilla territory because there were some barricades in kyiv instantly. well, in short, the same thing happened that always happened during the maidan. and the closer you are to western ukraine with the traditions of own-up . mykola, the code is like this. call this phone, don't tell anyone when you look at the checkpoint, call only the official policeman. don't tell anyone this e-e code . tell the policeman this code and they will let you in right away.

such an underground option is pure galicia, and then i understood the difference between what kyiv is, what lviv is, what galicia is, and to what extent it is already rooted in human nature , like who is fighting where, these are different wars, but simply based on my experience, galicia has the experience of fighting like this so, we and our guests will be the first to talk on this broadcast: roman kostenko , people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine, and andriy tytaruk, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation of the officers of the volunteer formation free ukraine, mr. roman, mr. andrii, by the way, tell us how was your day on february 24. roman kostenko, let 's start, please. good day. good day to all . glory to ukraine. well, i went briefly. it started very early.

my colleagues heard that putin announced a special operation , we woke up. then my friend, who lived nearby , heard the rockets fly directly to the zhulyany airfield and immediately chatted with the committee, understanding what had just been accepted we are in a state of emergency that we will have to urgently adopt martial law. i think that after an hour i was already in the committee, all my colleagues in the committee practically gathered at the head of the committee, zavitnevych, and then teams began to arrive. well, as teams, they constantly wrote in groups . or factions in committee groups and they said that we need to vote urgently, now we will vote, but we will not vote in the council because there is a threat, we will vote uh , motherland-mother on uh, what is there somewhere in the museum ? well, sergey rakhmanin and i sat down, went there

, arrived there already there were some deputies there with suitcases, someone with bags, someone, er, with something else. when we just got there for the meeting , they quickly told us no . a year passed, we voted on martial law. well, and then we left . i remember there, to one of the zkov deputies, they brought weapons, grenades, grenade launchers, and they started. there is even a photo of us disassembling and preparing. well, that was about it for the first half of the day. the fighting started there, i went there territorial defense by subdivisions well, in principle, it all went like that, in cooperation with the military , with deputies, with the rear, they started, there are people, there are potatoes, there is food, there are canned goods, there is fuel, where to take, where to take the uniform, and in such coordination, the first day, in principle, and

passed by andriy teteruk and how about you february 24th happened last year, first of all i wish the ukrainian nation better health . i remember this in our audience a year ago i had a very difficult evening the day before two broadcasts where i unsuccessfully tried to convince our such a complacent society that the threat of an attack is inevitable and putin is definitely not conducting any wedding maneuvers near the border trying to somehow lure us, that is, i came home around one in the morning and am completely disappointed that i do not know how else to reach the consciousness of ukrainians that they need to prepare for this threat and in fact, all questions were removed with the first flights of e-e russian missiles on the territory of ukrainian military units and residential areas and from that moment actually e-e well, before that, we

worked in a sufficiently organized manner resistance to capitulation, initially trying to somehow organize to oppose those attempts to sign up as a formula, but from the 24th we began to act as a resistance movement to the systematic resistance to the aggression of the russian federation in those territories that were already occupied and near the border territories in order to clearly understand what resources the enemy has and how it can be weakened at this moment , the only thing i had was a short pause, i didn't take my family from kyiv to vinnytsia. i started there organized organized so create e unit but there was absolutely powerful opposition from the side of the regional administration so that, god forbid, the representatives of the old government did not head any

units there, i was even barely put in prison, i was hanged for murder there, well, there was systematic, high-quality opposition here, you can’t tell anything after that, i returned back to kyiv and already acted as part of the resistance movement and still works with those like-minded people with whom we clearly saw the threat, clearly assessed it and clearly understood what needs to be done to bring our victory closer to you mr. andriy and to mr. roman. a question, if possible, a short answer. to be honest, i will repeat it with two red lines. to be honest, on the 24th-25th of the 26th, even then, i was fully convinced that we would fight back, that ukraine would cut off russia, were there any doubts, because i always admit that i had my doubts, but i was under the impression that i was alone in all of ukraine. what was maxim doubting the rest already on the 24th at 6:00 in the morning

he said where we would win and after some short period of time we would reach the borders of ukraine in 1991 mr. andrii, you are the first, please tell us the situation at that time was critically threatening er absolutely there was er anarchy in certain er government bodies where managers simply fled for their positions er did not fulfill their official duties and in such critical conditions yes to everyone you remember this now you can write memoirs that it wasn't like that but we are the grids of this history and in such conditions we assessed the threat of the entry of russian troops into the territory of our capital . yes, it is clear that these troops would not be enough to hold the capital, but such a threat was and was obvious, and that is why

we were preparing vinnytsia as a reserve such a bridgehead so that it would be possible to ensure the activities of all the units that would defend our capital from this region, or in which case, i'm sorry, androsho, what were your thoughts, were you convinced that everything would be fine and we will repulse the capital and not let the russians in. please tell me, it is difficult to say that everything depends on one capital, yes, it is important , uh, the capital, but i saw uh, the situation on the entire front, and i talked to the command , the situation was terrible, i called one of let's say to our great commanders hmm there and asked what we have, my friend, he says i'm in the south, we're about like that, that's how it was then i made the decision to say po- well, look , of course, now you can say that we believed in victory, but then we wanted as i would like not to stop the enemy, to believe in my feet. as you can see, it was very difficult to believe that

we would win right now, the task was to stop the enemy, so i say it again, the situation was difficult . and there was such a belief that we would do it right now and win. well, really, she could somewhere and sway and maybe we will ask just about the south and to mr. andriy and mr. roman, and yet we can already paint a picture for ourselves that such a thing happened in the south, that as easily as melted butter russian e-e weapons , russian military, russian invaders entered and reached kherson and captured a large number of kherson people actually stood on the border with mykolaiv well, there literally there was such a thing. especially i. as far as i understand, you were somewhere in the south and spent a lot

of time during the hostilities. yes, i was practically there from the 27th . yes, it is a complex of measures, it is impossible to say here there is and uh, let's say that the enemy is large, we crossed the border with our forces, they prevailed in artillery, prevailed in aviation , prevailed in and point of view, we still need to understand why we were well, from my point of view , not completely ready for this invasion because against them, let's say very quickly, he carried out such a blitzkrieg in the kherson region, he literally took three days there and captured the right bank in one day , sorry, the left bank in one day and there in 8 hours even without i said yes and although we have there there are whole brigades standing there uh, i won't name the numbers now. that's why this is another issue that needs to be dealt with, i'll say that

uh, it's uh, mykolaiv oblast, when the defense forces held mykolaiv oblast, mykolaiv itself is already on the outskirts here we fought and fought back to the border of the kherson mykolaiv region to the administrative borders and this created the conditions for further liberation because the bridgehead that was just enough to destroy their logistics, including when hypercars and long-range vehicles appeared, if they took mykolaiv it was practically difficult to break out from here already from the south, and you can say yes , even rain - quite difficult, i won't say impossible, but from a military point of view it is quite difficult, so they really passed quite quickly, and with this question, what will we have to do figure out who gave what commands, how did the troops deploy, what did they receive orders, how did they go through, what was the interaction, 100 was in charge of this, so you are still there quite a lot that we will need to figure out after the war, but they did not really come

quickly enough where they did not have go through all the laws of war , let's say to andrii, what do you say about the south? he said that the enemy would not pass either on land or by sea, and with such conviction, he went back to kyiv, but as we can see, in february 22nd, the enemy was defeated very easily, meeting almost no resistance at the first gunpowder very quickly captured a huge amount of ukrainian territories. i agree with mr. roman that it is necessary to leave this issue emotionlessly now in order to reproduce the chronology of events step by step to understand who and in what way was obliged to make decisions and had

to make these decisions and who in what way shied away from these duties in order to comprehensively paint such a picture from scraps of information and, recreating the course of events, establish who was guilty and who should be brought to justice, and the most important thing is that we have to apply after these conclusions such fuses were based on under no circumstances under any conditions the avoidance of similar situations where the enemy can surprise us . okay, the main fuse is my deep conviction and something tells me that in italy he would have joined me, this is called four letters of nato, this fuse seems very

important to me . okay, i give in. i give in. i give in. please continue. to ensure that this does not happen. as it happened exactly one year ago on the ukrainian borders, please do it normally. well, if we are talking globally or if we are talking specifically about the south, i think here, uh, if we talk within the framework of what happened and rewind the situation, then of course more organization, correct orders for the deployment of troops, all this can contribute to the fact that, for example, if there is no such thing, the provision of weapons, yes, for our army , we can do it, if we are talking only within the framework of our army, our country , of course, if we are talking globally, then i am sure that not a single country in europe, or in the world, not including large countries

such as china, india, or the united states, you know, they would not be able to cope with a country like the russian federation on their own in europe, no matter how much they have was there weapons that they currently have, this is impossible, therefore, of course, only alliances with strong exercises, military alliances, political alliances, can in the future become for us a safeguard against further aggressions of the russian federation, firstly, a safeguard, and secondly , to win, so we understand. we still we haven't won and there is still a very serious struggle ahead and we haven't even reached parity yet because the enemy has more weapons and more mobilization resources, that's where the intelligence reported to us, we said that if we take the economic resources of the russian federation even with sanctions, yes, they are getting poorer, their economy is falling, but then a war on such a scale with such and such, as they are currently waging on such a scale, they can wage it until

the 25th year, this is only an economic military resource, they will have enough until on the 26th, on such a scale, the number of people is up to thirty, and we have to understand that russia is a more resourceful country, and we can’t win with just wolf attacks. secure in the future ukraine from the state point of view, we already made such a decision during my stay in the parliament of the eighth convocation , we set the course for joining nato because it is an effective structure of a defensive nature that was created after the end of the second world war and the fact that at no countries to make time after the end of the second world war , no one attacked testifies to its high efficiency , even in spite of certain difficulties that exist in any complex system, the fact that putin

tried on the eve of the 14th year and of the 22nd year to constantly create chaos in the imagination of people in organizational structures in order to weaken this very complex s- structure of the investigator that he carefully prepared, studied the weak points and tried to put pressure on them in order to create favorable conditions for er-e impunity in his opinion, aggression against er- it was a consistent company , let's say, starting from georgia, let's not forget the same. and a huge number of conflicts where putin participated in a forceful way and tried to harden his armed forces in order to they were an effective tool of his foreign policy, therefore, as of today, there is no other alternative than joining nato and being, in my opinion, the best member of this alliance of ukraine, today there are simply no other auxiliary alliances that can

help us go this way admission is certainly possible and should be considered. but as of today, there are no other alternatives . thank you, thank you. andrii tetruk, officer of the volunteer formation of free ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, and roman kostenko acting people's deputy how many kraków secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence colonel sbu thank you so this morning, on the anniversary of the full-scale invasion, the president of ukraine presented state awards to ukrainian defenders on sofiyivska square, the national anthem of ukraine was performed by sviatoslav bachko vakarchuk, at this very moment the flag was raised in all cities of ukraine, in particular, in liberated cities such as kherson, liman, and okhtyrka, as well as in countries that support our state, let's

see how it happened, please show us the national flag of ukraine, the fields are fine for us, brothers, ukrainians, god bless you, brothers, glory be to god, glory be to the lord, i will lay the body to

our freedom, that we are brothers , heal the body, forgive our village of the year, yes, mr. vakarchuk performed the national anthem of ukraine, and in our studio, kateryna zaremba is political airplanes not a translator author of the book sunrise of the ukrainian sun is dedicated to the east of ukraine now the most important events kateryna