tv [untitled] February 25, 2023 3:30pm-4:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] it is necessary to be constantly present in the great parades on the streets, like all the others, we see these pictures, you know, the hyper pen and it is with people, he takes children in his arms, all the others, we see it right now , you know it, and you are not afraid of it, you can see that putin is clearly sitting in the bunkers, you know, these bunker children who they are called carefully so that he is worried about his life, then it is already very noticeable that he does not come close to the battlefield, we remember again that hyper had one of the largest nearby bets here in vinnytsia, it will not be the closest to the front of the wind liked the guide not that he likes to take risks and for you and i took risks because he was a very human how to say it again i don't care about hitler , god must speak indiscretions there is nothing to say but the level of single-mindedness , acceptability, eh, without compromise , ideological eh -e idiocy can be said when hitler was much taller than putin why putin is so rude and disgusting because we understand that he plays a role, he plays it very badly, he would like to be that, but we
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see that we are here to say that putin is a chinese copy of hitler, yes. well, i don’t know if the chinese is called chinese, the quality is worse, i don’t know , because we are now seeing very dangerous processes in china, because i see that the chinese , through russia, can create in 10-10 only because their current leader looks like such a future putin , he broke the constitution as well as putin, he went for a third term, he is already at the age at which he is clearly starting to spray weapons and the situation is very much the same. although there is a difference, what exactly we see that the economy is overheating in china, and this means that there will often be economic difficulties, and this means that there is a great threat that when economic difficulties occur, when i want to maintain my power, he will dream of a victorious war, and this is also necessary, and this is the worst abstraction for the world and for taiwan and for ukraine, because the emergence of a second outbreak of war can divert the attention of the west, that is, one more attention to weaken the aid, so
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it is very important that this will not happen. on the front, i have one more caveat, you and all of us that it is better not to have such countries as ukraine or taiwan, if they were going after them now, but who knows him, but you are talking about a chinese copy. it seems to me that now everyone is trying to copy putin. but in that sense, he more successful, therefore, it still has an economy and that way, unfortunately, we will see. i recently watched one document, there was an archive of a video with putin from the time when he was just elected president of russia and he said that he did not want to become a tsar. what is he anyway? still wants to return to his previous life sooner or later it will happen whether putin wanted or thought then about becoming a tsar or planned we don't know we don't know we don't know what to do today putin and we can't know but we see the logic of events
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he adds that serhiy smoked under the dictator. he says that this is actually four books. the new generation is not worthy. it wants to be like uh, it's very important. these are populist leaders, and they will say. what is orban, what is putin, what is putin, what do they all have? herself with trajectory, they come to power in a country that is in anarchy, a fast has started, and when there is a very strong force in society for the expulsion of someone strong, someone will come and not maintain order, and they carry out order, and it must be said that the minimum order begins to work, because really things are they are getting better, the economy is rising like this, everything else, what else do you know, suddenly society feels better than it was before, but here, you know, there is a situation like a magician's apprentice, who can't hire representatives from a bottle, because after the increase in the level life so far, life is spent until the emergence of the creative middle class, and these cells are difficult, just want to use , want to go abroad, he wants to have freedom of speech, i do not want to express myself, it is very important, and you have
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this creative class everywhere, which is starting to speak out, and almost everywhere we see that in china that in istanbul there is a taxi area, that in moscow, it is a swamp, that in belarus, in the 20th year of protest, that in ukraine there are two maidans, that is, the political situation is coming to the point that such authoritarian leaders, yanukovych dogan or someone else, have fewer and fewer chances, especially very it is important because it can hold power on the periphery in the hinterland, which is poor, but you cannot get it in the cities, the biggest cities , let's say kyiv, minsk, istanbul-moscow, or st. petersburg, because there is a high level of creativity , it is high, simple operational class , universities, the academy, etc., various centers it the sector is like that, everything else, and then comes the second stage, the second stage begins, that this one goes to power, i was suddenly so handsome, popular, suddenly they start to press the position, you know, flame meter, napalm, destroy,
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put in prisons, exterminate on some other buy or all the others and it turns into something like this, it really destroyed the despot, but everyone understands that you know that if it was if it was the wholesale of russia on the background of the connection economically, therefore the book is already in decline, that is , the repressions are going on together with pat because what to the end and then the fact arises that in fact this leader turns out to be like breeze, he is down, he has nothing to resist because he is not so popular. ani should break down the document by position. there is a document and what does it seem to you to be the third stage? he must resort to external aggression, then come the idea of a small victory wars, who is against georgia? now about ukraine or this is the only way for him to keep everything, continue his existence , that's why we don't know what was in putin's head from the very beginning , but i'm rotten when your solid years pass until those when everyone is forced into the army en masse and converted they are cannon fodder and sent to some foreign territory to fight for the sake of this dietary leader. can we say that the length of time a dictator is in power
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affects the amount of blood on his teeth ? that is, the longer a dictator leads a certain country the more bloody he is, uh, there is no such thing. you know what happened 24 years ago about the authorities , he had a lot of blood this year, probably more covered up because we came home from everyone separately and it must be said that he died calmly, i look at old age. therefore, we must warn such conviction that all these leaders are necessarily final, after that, for now, 10 to shpyki, you are profiting from death. well, you can use foam, you know , although he was taken there, and that you are very close to death. therefore, this does not mean that you know that if you are a political regime somewhere, what is military will fall it may fall by itself, it may not, there should be an external factor that allows everything, and i think that in that case , our part controls that putin took against ukraine.
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having fallen into this war, it is obvious that his regime will shrink very, very quickly. hitler was already driven to his bunker in may 1945, as a result of which he ended his life. well , according to the official version, together with his wife eva brown, is putin driven now and what is he capable of and if hitler would then have the presence of nuclear weapons, did he use them before his death, and can putin do it now, as a matter of fact , this is one of the questions. analogy that what now has now putin has somebody it's good to joke, you already know that the difference between putin and hitler was the same viktor knew when they used it on themselves and then still does not impose it because putinism and actually the picture that he believes this picture. it has little to do with reality. imagine a person who doesn't read finds google finds finds and in general it uses the internet. that is, it is
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a general problem, the problem of all such despots, rams, but in putin it is especially putinism around him, the environment that he proves only good news, because everyone knows that the person who brings bad news writes here, then they kill him, he says that you know messengers, that is, and he must know the feeling , he continues to think that everything is going well, because this indicates that the next thing i think is very good you know, he is standing in this bunker, he imagines that things are going well, well, besides the fact that someone even wrote this, it is already a personal thing, it has no comparison with hitler, it’s just that once someone argued about putin’s philosophy , they name different people who influenced putin and ligin schmid and all other such things, but i said very well, in fact, putin's philosophy is putin - this is a boy from the subdivisions , you know such matters, gopnyk, well, there is no need to exaggerate his intellectual capacity, he does not have any deep intellectual, but millions of philosophy of philosophy of judo, he is a judoka, after all, a philosopher means that you can you can overcome your opponent
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in any way by fighting with him for an infinite time until he falls, it says fight of a bulldog or some such mastiff dog, you know how to hold and not let go this logic of putin putin it will last so long and there will be a lot of things going well as long as he can fight with ukraine or with another regime, there is also one very important parallel, i did not think about it, but i will read it somewhere recently and thought that it makes sense look, we always think that democracy is better, and it's definitely better, and that's why it's better that she said that she wins because everyone, but it's not koncha, because we see that the liberal democracy that was born after the first war, then from the ninth year almost everywhere the last press of the holy democracy died. is it possible in slovakia, france, and these regimes were completely destroyed by the vagaries of time, and that is why i have the idea that in fact it is what saved liberal democracy, and it is also so very strange that the two largest countries of the most successful the economic will be ideal for the political entered the war on the side of hitler and it was britain and
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the united states of america the united states of america because the country that did not have a war because it was separated by oceans and it had an economic one believes that the entry of america and in the first second degree was a decisive factor why didn't the various empires of fascism and communism win because you know it, i hope that if this flight works i think that there is hope, the current situation of ukraine also shows the fact that america is on the side of ukraine, but the saxons america is the question of ukraine again gives high hopes, which are already high, that putin just has a chance you should not forget and i'm sorry for saying so, it is very important in the end, in the end, nuclear weapons are not nuclear weapons, the chance of victory is measured by vat per capita, who has a stronger economy will win especially now because this war and we understand this logic is a war even though putin declares war, the news that he is against ukraine, in fact, it is not exhaustion
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. i repeat this all the time. on the second, because you probably remember, you know, in the 17th year, the british officers joked about it and organized rather, if the war continues to move at such a pace , it will take 70 years for them to reach berlin, because there were huge battles there, but to the front line almost did not move or pat pat that is the situation this depth is a trench as we know the same way now we see bakhmut on bakhmut and the azovstal is exhausted there are some references but they are small there are no big big battles and in this case it is very important if in this war there is no a decisive battle or a decisive victory in this war will be lost by the one who cannot wage war. who is exhausted , you know what? economically, you have almost something on resources and the feat is exhausted in spirit, that is, the population finally understands that we do not want to endure this anymore . it is very important, you know, we have already remembered somewhere in may of this year, the british here war made a similar forecast that if the russian army continues to move as it is moving now in march-april, it is to
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reach kyiv, then it will reach kyiv in 1151 so it is important that there are such wars that end not in decisive defeat but in the collapse of the class and in three years, and it could happen tomorrow because i don’t know anyone, chocolate still doesn’t even have a prediction of what somehow with this one he lost in the first one with a collapse like in the kingdom, the tsarist regime ended because petrograd the bread ran out and cold women like this have nothing to feed the children went out into the street the soldiers did not take it and on the second day the regime refused the same way germany fell then our scenario is like this you understand it is very important that in the end russia will fall even in russia putin, putin's regime will fall under its own weight that it will no longer be able to wage this war, don't you see the parallels of modern russia with the russia of the time of nicholas ii when, as of the 14th year, the year of the beginning of the first world war, it was a fairly successful economic country which
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initiated the reforms, in the end he was stolypi. well, he was already killed before the 14th year, but the country got involved in this unnecessary world war i, and the tsar did not listen to his surroundings, the tsar listened to the opinion of grigory rasputin, who always insisted that this was the holy mission of the tsar enter this war and in the end it ended with the complete collapse of the empire, the collapse and murder of rasputin himself and nicholas the second. are there any parallels between modern russia and putin? you see, when we compare hitler from putin to hitler, we are doing a certain thing . i think that the polish regime is deeply rooted in russian history. so you say , you know, you can say that russia tries to pretend that we are a state. the empire is crumbling at the end, well, now there was no big battle, you just have to withstand all the economic and other burdens, and here it is very important
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that russia only agrees to wars when these wars are fought on its territory , you know that this is a war for them, a defensive war no, but all the wars that russia waged outside its territory, maybe more, it turned out to be simply catastrophic for us , japan, i remember she, don't you remember, we didn't live with you ? let's throw our hats around so that it suddenly appears that japan, which became just a small reformed main power, defeated the huge russian empire. and this is very important, that is, in the end it comes down to the same thing. and what is actually important is that it seems to me that there is a key thesis and this is what the historian of modern wars says modern are wars, modern are you, this is the technology, this is the window, the tanks are more different, and in these wars, the one who is better with the modernized is in the game, just very simple , modernize or die, it is very important, well, in your opinion, does vladimir putin remember now the story about epatiivskyi
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houses about the shootings in it. i don't know. well, i can say that. i don't know what putin is doing to his head. you know who can say there? it's completely crazy, everyone else is , but what do i want to say here ? - here we are certain repetitions of a certain certain scenario, which there is, and the trick is that , in fact, in russia there were a couple of cases to make russia a normal country, a normal , con-european ukraine, develop ukraine. serfdom and 20 years of choice of forms. here's to the judicial reform, you know the reform of kovropei , then we remember the 17th, what you say is the end after stolypin, this is the wind of the reform, when russia suddenly started to get back on its feet very quickly , you know, because it really seems that a few years will pass russia is a normal european state in the 17th year, when the temporary believers came to power, it was the only way of building, one of two ways to build a brand of democrats in russia, everyone believed that russia would become european, and so did gorbachev and not
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we remember that putin came to power almost after 10 years of gorbachev for 15 years of gorbachev and how is it not reforms when they fought for themselves, what is the tragedy of russian history, the tragedy of its neighbors in our country, because we feel it the most that after every such attempt of a small to make russia a normal state and the reaction begins that a longer period is even more brutal, a period of such darkness, you know with repressions with gulags with everything else and necessarily a war outside is very important, that is, you know this loop all the time is repeated and this is a disaster, because in the end, russia could never call itself successful, and therefore it is very important to stop this pendulum, you know, i will only say that this is not my opinion, that in fact we should go for the crown in the 101st year, and this is clear here there is a complete consensus of all the authorities and the people and society here, but we must, we understand it. it is certain that leaving the border in 101 solves the russian threats because russia remained as it is, which is important for russia to finally become a normal
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state, and it itself cannot do it may because the diseases of the russians are far away, and in russia they only have to do everything normally under the pressure under the pressure of the west , after that the russian regime will collapse and it is very important to me that this pressure should be felt by ukrainian voices for the samborov west , you know what your guys said look, you guys fought well you guys did this job. and now we're going to start dealing with russia. and you're resting. this could be the worst because already at the end. i believe that ukrainians should have the right to this for various reasons in the first a real voice because i suffered more from this. and secondly, we are really fighting heroically. let's just be victims, we are still fighting, and thirdly, it is very important. i think ukrainians are now the best expert on the russian issue, no one knows what russia is, ukrainians, we are already the poles know just as well because they don't remember, it is very important, therefore, it is very important to me that after the war, when it happens, what i stopped at this show, and that we started russia actively reforming the ato of russia, in what way we cannot say, it is very important that these voices because there were
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otherwise, we understand very well. even if we do not win this war, even if we do not win this war, it means that our grandchildren or great-grandchildren will be able to fight with russia because we have this constant , you know, little pendulum that all the time is lenin's, then stalin's and putin's, then some other such chooses it is obvious that ukraine has changed during this year and it will never be the same again as it was in february 22, and how russia itself , the society of russia, has changed during this year of war, we do not know, in fact , we will say right away that our assessment is not about mistakes i say our people. they were not evaluated by me. i repeated them because the mistake was that the russian economy was not viable and the sanctions would kill them . russia has a hard time living in private business , he felt the ax on himself, i will start with the lygarkhas, and in russia there is a good state business that
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works for the war, pedals, has oil, has gas , and can continue to fight, so are all the others, and in that sense, i think that russia can pull on for several years this war, well, it can be, you know, because it is, at the same time, it is very important that, er, that is a russian trait that the population is ready to be poor just to have the illusion of greatness, we are poor, but we are great, vladyslav , this is part of the propaganda that many russia and dobrosyn are slowly believing, we do not know. that is, we do not yet see signs that russia is ready to vote for changes. it was beaten when we felt that russia was really ready to collect all these things. uh a supporter of the training, it was youtube from may and he told how badly russia did and how much he drinks and that it was a case of collapse in several places , russia has a margin of safety. he says that it has such a margin of safety that it will fall, but a certain margin we still have coppers, so this thesis, which will be learned now, can be depressing. but
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i think realistically, we have to look. we must understand that it is him for a long time, and then he is definitely happy to take it. bypassed, they use that understanding to promise all the time of preparation, to promise that we have the end, and then to ask more and more into depression that it does not end, that is, you know, it is very important. i remember sometime in may, i gave a lecture in ternopil and i would pass by some house, i see there is a poster maybe there was somewhere else that hangs azov and shows ukraine well, it is not a show and that i do not stand them, you understand that the nature of war is a war of attrition and it is not landed, resources also count , but fire is a resource, the presence of the spirit is known about the fact that after the second world war, germany repented, german society repented, and after that the economic transformation and revival of the country began, will russia repent after its defeat, after the victory of ukraine , is russian society capable of this in germany, there was no voluntary repentance, uh, there was an attempt, there was pressure, you pay with
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on the part of the allies, germany, which tried to do it, was used by all the others. but there were certain pragmatic calculations, first of all, because germany was divided in the second half. there would even be an expectation of many intellectuals that the question when russian tanks are driving in paris is a matter of time, they believed that after the victory of stalin, the entire european continent would become communist, it was a real threat to the special bank, so the americans , the british, were ready to invite the eyes of many things in order to get this balance. simply speaking of punishment, we are only the top , instead, the majority of the state apparatus worked those people who were, i would not say, multi-layered criminals, but all of them did not, you know, have one or another blood on their hands, and it was also one out of the eye bakanski because he was an anti-fascist and this one was anti-hitler, but they still have to keep it for the sake of the interests of pragmatic interests to tolerate these people in power, but i live with almost everyone after me, what
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happened and the change happened with the appearance of a new generation when a fuller celebration of the clinics was born during them after they didn't remember the war that allowed up to the age of 60 only the first one started with a starting question and what did you do during the war for your parents and grandfathers and that's why the change and let's speak german it's a significant change submissive, that is, if we take from the analogy, i believe that i believe that you yourself should happen in russia, it will not happen quickly , generational changes must pass in order for a generation to appear. i don't know how much of this is true, i'm just wandering that there is no younger generation in russia, in the sense of a younger generation, a younger generation. putin did everything he could to reproduce the values of the average older generation, so there is no change in the generation, it changes, but it's not means that a person is russia, but it seems that there are finally reasons to think about the kneeling of schoolchildren, the tire yariv putin is no longer what someone said, i don't know how well you know this computer language, that for russian
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schoolchildren, putin is a tank, not a feature. i know if you understand it, grandma, that i am a virus in the program, and what makes it a strong program, that is, for me. obviously, they are visible, again, this is speculation , depending on how quickly putin will fall, who will come, in each case, we must understand something, it is generational, it is fast will happen but from something it is necessary to start the first step, it must be the victory of ukraine without a doubt, and the second step is very important, it must be constitutionally accepted , it must be under pressure, everything is magnificent in the constitution that russian users will select russia's crimea and donbass in ukrainian literature, this network, eurasia, georgian territory, that russia has no interests in the call to and it should be clearly written down because it was what and more cases, this is a form of reconciliation, that's what we don't think that he is anymore we don't think that the borders are fair because there is no one to deal with that's why everyone, when they changed, we understand that the population lived in different territories, you know, mix things up, we understand that there are no perfect borders, but from a certain responsibility, the border and the sand cannot
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be moved, because the movement of one border means that all the others fall. europe looked the same from europe. iceland can have fair borders with the exception of such a wall , but everyone understands that borders cannot be moved . we leave them as they are, but we develop the idea of reconciliation. we make peace . we see joint television in polish german television and so everyone else understands and then we start working and we will necessarily recreate the huge zone of peace the zone of peace where he and more we don't have the opportunity with all of them maybe they won't appear yet why because russia still the elites did not appear in russian, the liberal elites clearly told you that the people of russia are good, crimea and crimea and donbass are ukrainian territory . we are waiting , waiting.
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will society change, how much will the government change and what are the main risks for our nation and for our state after our victory, according to your opinion, i will start with it for this one and here i am already speaking even a historian and a historian who speaks very strongly not only in history but also in philosophy, and bless historians base it on the experience of the 20th century and speak of such an image of the devil of history or the devil of history that the idea is that this is a metaphor for those who believe in me, the member is the goal - it is real, because let's say that oleksandr vat, a pole who survived war, he wrote a very good phrase that someone who was born in the 20th century, that is, the first century, could not believe in god, but could not believe in the devil, because i was there all the time, this evil was visible, it is very important, what is the irony, if something of a paradox then to the audience, the devil by himself cannot create anything, he is already unworthy, he would not be creative, only god can create, but the dialogue the devil can spoil something, so every one until we feel that things are going well, we begin not to see the threats that are, but the threats are and threats i believe that there are threats that we can rest on our laurels and it is also very important that we know
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what is threatening, we can see it now, you know the acceptance because everyone knows that only victory has one parent before defeat has one parent about moms 100 damn stop stop stop parents i'm afraid i have to quarrel with this inevitable piece. so who n- who didn't have the biggest contribution to this victory, i am also afraid that it is quite possible that a new specter of authoritarianism will appear in our country. the temptation is that of tinukovich, but still authoritarianism because zelensky will popular he is deservedly popular. but after the war, look, there must be something that will be absent. and we know that the trident is dangerous because every government is absolutely corrupt, but it is absolutely very important for the corrupt, that is, i am a threat. at least for the sake of avoiding them, but for my part , the best scenario for me is the scenario where i believe in this. i believe that it is worth it. i believe that ukraine will finally do its homework at school
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, the end of homework will carry out the reform that they didn't start a war, it's not yours, the key thing is that the goods form also allows citizens to protect their property in this regard, because we know that the most initiative in economic development comes from the people, on the initiative, if they do not interfere, they will definitely give themselves advice, but not to prevent them, it is necessary to provide for their owners, i.e. if all this happens, if they get homework divided, but i think about singapore or about all the others, you know everything he says, fellow poles, he says that the guys are worried , in 10 years you will be poland, you know, compared to you, ukraine will be of secondary importance. i think that this war is not a good war, well, it is a disaster without a doubt that to walk she created an opportunity and she is the back of the opportunity because of the sense that they even decided to speed up the time the fact that land times should take 20 years during the war it can become three places we remember ukraine
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knocked on all the doors of nato and the european no 20 years, she was not allowed to pass, two months of the war passed, and the seasons of the world are gone, establish a personal opportunity to jump over a lot of things or remind us, state and society have passed you by. here is such a deep irony , for the first time, ukrainians believe that things in ukraine are going in the right direction, it is necessary to have a war, so that ukrainians will believe it we, too, i, this is a huge energy, it is exploding like this, everyone else and mine favorite comparison here is waiting for it persian wars they are very similar to each other well we know 300 spartans and this movie and comics and we know from school what is the paradox you know a small tribe of greeks defeated a huge persian empire why because the greeks fought when people a they fought during the day and here ukraine is very similar ukraine and russia are free people who fight better citizens fight better than those who are thrown because citizens need to know that they don't have time with
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a whip or something maybe you know in a week we squads drove them forward, but what does this mean, why is this war very important until now, as such a greek civilization did not exist, even greece found it, it was just separate cities there, phoebe, sparta, you know , delphi, there, or, or, do you know something else, it was 400, you can kachur places that were in different territories, by the way, most of them surrendered to the power of the first voluntarily , but what happened was the victory of the small tribe, they created a civilization of cultures from those individual cities. of the greek spirit, these people who i would have fought in the greco-persian war, if only they had lived at once woe crete sophocles you know uh socrates plato and after all my profession is a historian thanks to who herodotus who wrote the history of the greco-per- pelapontine wars a year said about it this can the phrase is cynical but true, that war is the father of all things, we have threats , but war can just lead to something that we
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know before, even we could dream about, i don't care about war, war - it's a disaster, well , why can it happen to us, but once we already i happened to inform you how to make the most of it. i lived it. she has every reason to be one of the most successful countries in europe . she has every reason to be one of the most successful countries in europe. - this should be an independent issue of security and here russia should be addressed to the state that should be, but on the other hand we have to these reforms that we were not able to do and i believe that we are already mature enough to do it once it happens and it is obvious here and no one can do it on their own, no state foreign aid , and here we also have help from nato, the european union, the marshall plan , that is, the stars can align, which align on what you know, for 10-15 years, we are talking to you about something about something very much above it boring and
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