[000:00:00;00] in this state for several months in france and it was organized by colleagues from the ukrainian institute in paris, as well as in partnership with the embassy of ukraine in france to the fan and with the support of the usa and ukraine, that is, it is a series of events. this dinner was and is a dinner of ukrainian dishes and such a presentation directly through the dishes of the book ukraine, food and history, we prepared this book with the ukrainian institute two years ago. it was exactly what we were working on . it was designed to create such a new visual range of ukrainian dishes. tell about ukrainian cuisine. even before the war, at the end of 2021, we had already signed a contract with the very large french publishing house limon, which had never translated ukrainian books at all, and they agreed that they would try

to translate the book and print it. i want to say that we had a planned presentation for march 22nd, of course it didn't happen, but sometime in may i managed to come to such a closed presentation for journalists on this book with my french colleagues. strange questions and very sad how for me well, for example, one of them - and they were journalists. yes, you must understand that they were ordinary citizens, and journalists who write about culture, who write about food , who write about tourism, who write about education in general, that is, they are people who are professionals they are engaged in cultural issues, and among the questions there was, you know, i was in ukraine in 1992. i don't remember anything tasty, and they. well, but you have to be ready for them, or, for example, there were

questions about, well, what ukrainian cuisine is like differs from the russian well, it's generally like that well, it's just like a red rag for me yes, but the main thing here is to be unfronted and, uh, not to get involved, i took tactics for myself, i don't answer such a question because, first of all, why do i have to talk about our ukrainian tradition through the prism of a certain russian culture, especially the imperial culture, so aggressive, which unleashed a war against us, that is, i can outline ukrainian cuisine without reference to the contexts of russian paralyzing culture to answer this question, it is necessary to find out that a person knows pro-russian cuisine , the truth is that i do not want and do not need it at all. and by the way, this is not only our unique story back in the 15th year, when

olya hercules is a ukrainian woman who has been living in britain for a long time, she published several books about ukrainian cuisine, about her family's cuisine, and she also talks about what she constantly encountered with those prejudices that ukrainian cuisine is not interesting, but why isn't it interesting, you can't be interested in what you don't know about or what you have an idea about when you were somewhere in kyiv in 1989. the country. well, it is limited, so i can say that people have already come to the dinner. you know, the french language book has been on sale for a year. it got into many families and into many hands . someone tried to cook it. because one of the issues it was back then in may before me. hmm. you have such beautiful

photos. are they typical? did you take them from a photo bank? do you know if it ’s possible at all? how can you have such food? and i’ll explain how we took photos. how many farms do we have? to food, that is, not only about business what is food for us, how important is it what are our practices , what products do we value, why do we, why are our tomatoes so tasty, yes, but it’s not the season, we don’t really like to eat tomatoes either, because they are completely different according to taste, that is, what we value the taste is many, many such questions , this is me just getting attached to this, i was looking at a photo from this evening, vitaliy borolevich , everything must have been cooked by the chef - it is really very beautiful. visually beautiful , he was cooking borscht. he told that he was cooking it with abalone when are you vegetarian abalone mushrooms, and were they made of beef, and was there any certain surprise at something at this dinner, so what was it? well, maybe some funny reactions

, like, oh my god, it’s beautiful . what are the general ones? so, what is interesting about the reaction ? vitaly gorgalevich made du- already trained by experience because he had not events in other countries there during these years and he did a very important thing he prepared many dishes such as per- pri preparation in ukraine in his kitchen with his equipment and moreover many he imported the products from ukraine because there are the same er, pickled cucumbers, sauerkraut, jam from christmas tree cones, er, cakes for

honeydew, that is, in fact, he was already in the kitchen collecting, i can say that i observed how it is because we were cooking at the hotel in the kitchen of the norma di le chante hotel, there is a sorry, i can't pronounce it correctly because i don't know french . this is the local chef, who is giuseppe rogero? i saw him, he didn't expect this level at all. that is, we said in the correspondence before that that we would to prepare such dishes there is a book there. look at this one. yes, well , but when in italy he started using it. that is, it was restaurant food, it was not home cooking, it was with the use of various technological devices . i looked at some things, you know, we have this idea that all the foreign researchers or chefs there are a head higher than the ukrainian ones, there is such

a prejudice. i have encountered this. what things do i want to borrow in my culinary practice from yours the ukrainian chef, and i could see from him that they were not ready at all, that is, they were probably ready for the fact that we will come there , we will chop the cabbage, we will cut the bread, they will have to tell god how delicious it is, i will have to say something there, yes, but in general, this is probably such a primitive kitchen they will cook something there and it will be fine, but of course when vitaliy began to pour something into the siphon . and there he had sauce and there he had fermented elderflowers. plus, he also brought igor lavresht, a baker from ukraine , he brought and gave us a spik in ukraine, huge such breads on sourdough are properly baked with crispy crusts and they were shocked. yes, and you know this is important. it seems to me that this is because , as an andrologist, i will say how we imagine other people

, that they are like us according to certain cultural criteria. yes, this is a person similar to me, yes. this person eats the same dishes as me, this is how she behaves. that is, it is very important that people from other countries have empathy for us , that they sympathize, put pressure on their governments and understand that ukraine is such a whole civilization, european civilization and us it is important, well, it is important for us to support this empathy, it is also formed because of such cultural ties, but also the last question i have , what are the main ones

? there will be stereotypes because we also have a lot of stereotypes about french cuisine, but what should be put aside for foreigners about our bunch, first of all, look at stereotypes - it's not always as bad as it is for us. quickly and immediately imagine this set in your head. well, for example, french cuisine is also different depending on the region , depending on the social status, depending on one restaurant, it will be the same in another - the same at home , but here it also depends a lot on which audience you say no, it's not that it's difficult to answer this question, it's difficult for me to answer it. answer it briefly because, for example , in this lecture, i talk about uh, several dishes, for example, even if they are considered classic for us, stereotype a borscht dumplings dumplings second part in my conversation it is always about local products and now it seems important to me to talk about it because it allows us to outline the situation and

the military actions that are taking place in ukraine , for example, about the kherson watermelon, about the melitopol cherry, and also what to outline the country this is how i delineate it with individual products, genetic plums in poltava oblast, matsyk in polissia, also hutsul evening cheese in transcarpathia, and odesa cheese in europe, which is completely different in structure from odesa that is, it allows you to outline the map and the scale, because there is a bad stereotype that ukraine is a small country, and i debunk it not directly. you don’t think that ukraine is a small country, we are big. i give examples , yes, ours is square kilometers, and the second is we use products to delineate different regions of ukraine. well, the third point i try to talk about when we talk about food , when i give an interview, and it's about our attitude

to products, about what flavors we appreciate, that our ukrainian cuisine is seasonal, it's possible trace on the example of borscht what is different in us throughout the year, also about our practices of storing food and we know how to grow and self-sufficient, this is something that is sometimes possible i think before the war it seemed so archaic, yes, everyone, i’m kidding , you have to plant potatoes, go to your parents as much as you can here or there, this preservation there or something else, but he showed the experience of the war, these practices of knowledge about how to bake bread, how to prepare products, for example, there is also leavening for the winter, which is not leavened, you can also dry these knowledge we have if in such european countries and america there north american countries it happens like this you know a certain trend to the fact that people are taught how important it is to be able to grow something how important

it is not to lose understanding at least like bread or there this sausage there or this hamburger like it appeared on your plate, what path did it take, how was it grown, we did not lose this knowledge, and it seems to me that this, this, our practice should also be strengthened and we should not be ashamed of it. for example, during dinner, it is possible to tell about this knowledge about how to grow vegetables and fruit, that we have many people who keep gardens, raise livestock, what hard work it is and what people do who have , for example, who are teachers, nurses , work in shops, have a certain profession, but they do this and how did it help them to survive, for example, there in chernihiv region, in kyiv region, the occupation, at least having these stocks in their cellar, and this is also a component of our gastronomic culture. this was olena

braychenko, a gastronomist, and we spoke with her about how one of the events in the context of the ukrainian spring took place in france and how the french were fed exquisite ukrainian dishes and how they were surprised. i really like this reaction. i hope that such an event will not be the last and we will promote our cuisine in this very modern way it's interesting because we really have something to show. well, regarding another problem of film distribution, here's denis ivanov , producer, distributor, when he was at the berlinale recently at the cinema there of the market, he wrote in the description that he strongly believes that there are collaborators on the ukrainian market who help russians buy tapes from european producers from american producers, in particular , to show them here in cinemas. and about the fact

that global producers continue to cooperate unfortunately for the russians, i will remind you that the big hollywood studios have left the russian market, and the independent american studios and european ones obviously want to take advantage of this moment, we will talk about it all, and i asked denys whether it was really we need to take care of our trips to the cinemas and is there a risk that we will buy a ticket and watch a movie and the money will go to the production of russian weapons almost like that , that is, when the full-scale invasion began, the world leaders in horse production suspended work with russians and such large studios as disney and paramount sony and so on left the russian market, that is, those who generate the largest amount of box office fees. let's say

that the russian market also became free. there are independent companies that buy, which usually traditionally bought the rights from the same american distributors or french or german or british distributors for the territory of the entire former soviet union , despite the fact that the ukrainian film market is still a large european film chain , we did not manage to get rid of it there of this dependence on the russian film business, although many attempts have been made, especially after 2014, but unfortunately there are many collaborators. in our cinema, some of us have problems with the fact that we have a curfew an hour and there is no second evening session. and in general, the situation is not very good in our country, the new market has fallen. and in russia, on the contrary, since there are no managers of large american companies , the market has become larger, and now more and

more international companies are trying to work on this market and generate taxes and these companies with russian roots that re-registered there through a number of front companies, they continue to buy, as we learned from this, which they continue to sell on the market, they will continue to buy e-films on the territory of ukraine, i.e. at the bottom of the matter - this is a russian business under any sauce will be registered, which is simply uh-huh, the main market for it is russia and ukraine, they want to keep getting money and as a result, feed the russian film business, because the producers actually get the most 15%, uh, um, revenue from the gross receipts. let's say that the purchased ticket, or the majority , after all, uh, we are in this box office fee, it remains in the country where the screening took place, and

in essence, about 15-20% - that's taxes paid by the company will be paid to the budget of this company the country where it produces the film and thus, in fact, the russians are again occupying our film market, firstly, and secondly, they are developing their business, and russian business is directly related to taxes, and taxes in times of war are directly related to weapons, and we go to the movies we are trying to explain all this to the market. and there is a serious basis for thinking that we have these collaborators on the market, yes , at least three companies, at least 3 film companies, which through a series of bogus a-a companies, it is necessary, it is very difficult, but it is possible

to prove, in essence, in the essence of the case, are they representatives of russia or permanent partners of the russian film industry or are they responding to other bodies that are supposed to deal with this and check something? we tried to reach the state cinematographer as early as may of last year, but it seems to me that there is simply no understanding, or no understanding of this problem that it has been 3 years since the solution appeared , these people do not, in principle, understand that this problem exists, that now the ukrainian film market will be occupied again, and we will lose the opportunity for it to be independent films it was bought by independent distributors and not by those rights holders who work in the country with which we are at war. well , it is possible for me, it is not a question. why do european american producers continue to sell their tapes to russians? we understood that it is

profitable for them. maybe they somehow they explain in conversations and talk about it and give some arguments, well, first of all, russia was a film market that constantly submitted no more than ten film peers of the planet, for example, for french cinema, and hmm for french cinema russian cinema is the number two or number three market, after france, where french films are collected, so it was very painful for them to lose this market there, or first , secondly, not everyone understands, all of them, there is no moral leadership there now in the industry, because even there there are american mini-majors, as we call them, that is, large companies that make movies there with hollywood stars, they are, in principle

, ready to go to some expenses there for the sake of some values ​​there, for example, the movie operation fortune, which was released and which was sold the company has a story on the territory of the former soviet union, which was released in russia, is released in the crimea, and then it was released in a ukrainian box office, that is, they refuse to even comment on it for the international press . why did this not happen to you, but we have to present the account is not only er, it seems to me that the film companies er are american or french, because if ukrainians cooperate with russian companies, why should we allocate the account er to foreign companies if it is not their war, but ours is at war and our film companies are quietly cooperating through the lays in cyprus e.e. latvia with the united states in canada they cooperate

with the russians, that is, if we can’t on our market what on the market i’m sorry to calculate and take some steps then how can we what moral right can we e.e. we have look after some accounts there for other companies. therefore, it is actually a very big problem, uh. well, it is a big problem, and not only for the independence of the ukrainian cinema market. yes, because it was partially occupied by russian companies, it is now being repeated its occupation, namely during the war, and now there is such a moment that here and our state bodies must be connected because they regulate. they must regulate such stories and the journalistic community and cinemas where google plays these films. they also must understand who is who and what is happening in general because we we see such an understanding, i, we go, i several others there , independent distributors, we go to meetings with global companies and we see

that these companies, they say there, this film was bought by such and such a company, they cooperate with such and such a company in ukraine yes, they and we have to explain that the war that is going on, it is not going on in our tv, it is going on absolutely , it affects our lives in a direct way, but there must be institutions and the market itself and the journalistic community have something to do with it to synchronize, otherwise we will really lose a certain part of the independence of our house there. well, i briefly asked the first deputy head of the state cinema maryna kudchuk to yulia shevchuk that she knows anything about this problem. does she know anything? let's go let's listen to her again, we are talking about a possible hypothetical situation, not a single proven established fact , well, fortunately, we have not met, moreover, our law on cinematography establishes a certain number

of restrictions for a long time, it seems that since the 15th or 16th year there has been a ban on broadcasting of a russian product of russian production, i understand yes, that is why we usually treat it very, very carefully, reviewing and checking all counterparties because and again, if mr. denys ivanov has certain there are some facts for this, we have law enforcement agencies, you can safely go there and talk about it at the moment , er, well, some sufficiently proven facts or appeals about such er risks, er, the existence of these nuances, well, we did not receive them. well, how do you see absolutely two polar points of view, what will we continue to monitor and understand this situation , because the topic is really important. well, for now

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black pools and others on the walls continuation of the day i don't make pizza anymore, but i'm still the owner of motor pizza . i really want to ask you. here you go, the people of donbass. well, when we were in the east, we bypassed civilian objects . we didn't go into cities because we knew that there were big ones . the risk of losing a large number of people is simply huge because of the large population . and those animals for which they are drowned kill ordinary civilians . i have my own business

, i produce clothes for people. we only have t-shirts . other banks do n't work. i knew it would happen. i knew it would happen for 8 years. they didn't believe us. i was primarily a photographer. well, i hope that this was a temporary story. at 5:00 in the morning, the rest called lena. well, in principle, they understood that this would happen, i just thought that it would not happen right now . it seems to me that it is very important to indicate that the war it didn't start on february 24. yes, she did it started and has been going on for 8 years, today russia is starting the third world war, this is a challenge for absolutely everyone, for all the political structures of the world, for all the military structures of the world, this is