[000:00:00;00] well, russia, but at the same time, let’s say to reject completely optimistic scenarios and lose hope, it’s definitely not worth it, as the practice on the maidan always shows. alone at home , he was thinking in the right direction, the wind is in naf and winters are warm in us, when it is needed warm, and in russia they are icy at the moment when they need them warmly therefore, it is obvious that very often the stars line up in the right constellation, we have every chance so that it will not be a protracted war of attrition and the processes in russia, even internal ones, move much faster than today the world appreciates it. thank you, mr. olezh oleksandr, political scientist, head of the platform, the only coordination center was with us , and we also want to tell you about the fact that we are reminding you about the urgent collection for a thermal imaging sight for the defenders of the soldiers of the company, and i do not have this budget in the composition of 2 51-

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megogo spotlight ukraine new channel project espresso project about war and ukraine spotlight ukraine product that is made better by journalists and experts inform analyze forecast spot like ukraine exclusive interviews with foreign guests politicians diplomats economists military lay ukraine the key to how we will live the next few years lay ukraine with volodymyr ostapchuk every sunday at 21:30 at espresso ilya samoilenko, the legendary fighter of the equally legendary azov with the call sign gendal left to fight in 2015, at that time he was studying to be a historian, but the desire to be a warrior turned out to be stronger in 2017, he was injured since then instead of his left hand, he protested, but this did not stop ilya. he learned to practice with weapons again before the full-scale

invasion. ilya went to mariupol . samoilenko was among the hundreds of soldiers who remained under siege during the bombing in the underground tunnels, and from there he told everyone the world about the fierce fighting in the city, the soldiers refused to surrender. until the order of the top military leadership of ukraine came , he was in captivity for 120 days and returned home as a result of the exchange in september of last year sure, the battle of azov is still ahead and ukraine cannot lose the war there is only one option victory day it was, well, the 24th, well, how am i, as, as, as i promised, i was at the right time, in the right place, with the right people, i met with my comrades, with my

unit , you knew what you had to be. there will be a full-scale invasion, and at that moment you should have been there. well, how i felt, i knew that something would be obvious, starting somewhere in november, i think. that's where all these reports from mh6 from american intelligence are waiting there our european partners from the main intelligence agency and so on, that's just how we were, and how did we feel, yes, how did i personally feel about what i saw, yes, that everyone thought that it would somehow be solved by itself well, nothing will happen well, really from the point of view vision there perception it was well no mental things, as i said then, i say the same. now, uh, before the beginning of the large-scale invasion, the russians had all possible levers of influence on us, there are no economic

, social, cultural, and in some places also political, because it's cool, as they say as carl von clause says , he lagged behind his famous famous book about war, that war and the continuation of politics by other methods. us to continue to have influence, they could strengthen it in other ways, as it seems to me, yes, they decided to simply change the rules of the game, and to challenge not only the security in the region, yes, as they say , geopolitical, some kind of base there , geopolitical balance, but they challenged in general the system of collective security and er, well, the world order. that's how you can say . well, because after the second world war, in that civilized country, they began to negotiate

with each other. influence there, not because of hostilities, but because of innovative sectors of the economy, because of the correct structure of society, more progressive, yes, because of which competitions, for example , a more effective system, well, the russians decided well, i can’t get into my head yes, but i think that almost everyone is obvious those analogies that were drawn there. yes, there is a guy with a school bully who wanted to show something to someone . yes, there is a character who wants to play at the table with big players. this is very far fetched. yes, it is simply worth understanding that if a resource is an accumulated resource, if there is tension in this resource, well, i am talking about a military resource, yes, it must be released, and in such structures as empires

, yes, russia is one way or another throughout its long history well, big in terms of terms and years, it was her empire with absolutely clear, clear imperial characteristics, the first of which is the need for expansion in many other empires there in the past years, there the past millennia, and they also had this characteristic and expansion was necessary because the empire cannot live at the expense of itself, it cannot develop at the expense of planned, calm progress, it needs revolutionary steps, the capture of new territories, the rise of national national consciousness and national pride, if at all well, it is permissible to use such words there in the direction of russia. well, because i think that it is not entirely true, and well, as a result, well, a new , well, a new round of admiration is obtained

, the national rise is resting on its laurels and it is necessary to capture it in another way. well, this empire. it is, simply put, our task for civilization, yes, it is to stop this development, this is the origin. but again, a lot of attention is paid to russia. even now, after a year of war, although we must first of all concentrate on our questions on their problems because this is a big factor of distraction, well, that is, you can understand your internal systems very well. yes, there are their politicians in their financial and economic system. you can read how they are strongly affected by sanctions. a lot of analytics, for example, there are prominent world observers there, you can watch all the investigations there of groups that are engaged in research, for example, there is the suppression of the position in russia in russia, and so on and so on and so on, you can do a lot of things, but well,

that's not what we need, well actually, it might be very interesting for someone , well, it’s worth dwelling on this because well, you can conduct very interesting experiments there with the life of insects , for example, yes, but when the house is on fire, it’s not time to choose curtains, you as a historian and military man, tell me how empires die in general, and what is our role in this, ukraine, well, it is a small country, and it is in a state of war , how can we blame this bloody empire ? well, here it is a little bit wrong, i will correct it, we are not a small country, we are a big country, a big country a country with a long history with great people with great roots and with a great heritage that many ukrainians do not even appreciate, do not know about it, reject it, yes, but come to the perception of their ukrainian to

the exclusion of reactionary yes and so on, that is, well, this here is a typical example, a lot of people there switched to the ukrainian language. there are signatures on the 24th because it was more comfortable for them to use russian before. okay, this should not be a motivation for this, that is, you have to love ukraine, not against anyone, yes, and for ukraine, that is, well this is not to spite moms from the ice cream tit is not that at all here this at all cannot be related to the same thing for example there with er there ukrainian-language content on er experienced there all these years er how it was transformed how it was created on well and po- first he started well, first of all there there are continent makers on social networks, there on youtube and so on, uh, as just an alternative . yes, then everything was

done , but in ukrainian. well, okay, and that is, it is also important to understand that well, here i am talking about the fact that here people are reacting to the perception of their ukrainian, but well, maybe it will be like that and so, well, the final result is impossible , the final result is because, coming back actually, to the question, how can a small country resist the big empires, how will the empire be destroyed, the empire will be destroyed , just for this, people must understand that we are not a small country, and people must also understand that only by joining forces and understanding the personal responsibility of each then you can somehow predict and plan the results because, well, words are just words . yes, there are words that can in a certain way change the society there, change the consciousness, but simply

, well, they must be very powerful words and more a huge moment is the fact that nothing is given just like that, and after a year of war , yes, i already see such trends in society that people think that just by believing in themselves , just by believing, as is the mantra we repeat, they believe in the armed forces, guys, well, guys, and girls, yes, you don’t just have to believe in the armed forces, you also have to understand that it can’t be useful. actually, it’s direct military propaganda, if it’s because i ’ve been seeing this very shameful trend in what people translate , as always responsibility in oneself to someone another. and here is this problem that we must deal with in the first place. how do we see the collapse of the russian empire as soon as possible? but here

, look for another moment. yes, we all dream of a date for the implementation of that plan that is drawn on the map in budanov's office. where is the map? very very interesting very good personally, i think that it is pleasant to contemplate, but uh , for example, for our western partners, yes , a more pleasant and more favorable system , a system of controlled chaos, well, that is, about which let's look really in the eyes in direction, everything that russia has, well, nuclear weapons, if they are distributed there and will gonize over there, there are several dozens of smaller states there, well, it will be several dozen smaller states with the same problem, and it will be absolutely impossible to control all of them, so right here. to be honest, it’s the politicians’ business. well, i’m a military man, my business is a military one, and well, it’s just a long time ago. i’m just

visiting there now, not at the deployment point of my unit. and now in kyiv, yes, because a lot of work is being done. also here and well, we we do what they ask us to do and even more. well, we did it as before and i am optimistic enough to look ahead because there is a demand for our experience in society and there in other units of the armed forces, and we are happy to share this experience, we are absolutely normal practice in order to help people do better in a critical situation. and tell me, when did you realize that you wanted to be a soldier ? it's a very difficult question. to be honest, when i joined the service, i planned to serve a certain period of time there, and

well, damn it, in those realities 16th year that there was hope that there we will go on a decisive offensive there, we will win back the territory so, well, the war will end. and we are all there. how are you all volunteers? yes, there. we will go quietly to our homes. so, we will continue civilian life. we will just live as we used to. well, that 's not all. it's so simple. so, i guess i understood that i realized that i'm not what i want , i have to be a soldier. yes, when i returned to the service before the full-scale invasion, well, it's just returning to the same thesis that at the right time in the right place with the right people. well, again very much often in recent times they are singled out somehow there are people in the media there or they eat somewhere somewhere there is a peculiarity of there personalities, but i will say something else , well, it so happened that i became a media person here, but

in my city there could have been another, many others. that 's why we just don't show all of them that's the strength in unity, the strength is in the ani unit, not in individuals, although our unit is azov. we just strengthen the abilities of certain individuals and use people as effectively as possible. equation even for a person to be effective, more effective than he will be simply if he is assigned somewhere in a commandment order yes and against his will well somehow this is the formula of productive staffing or can you say so and is there some, you know, some philosophical way of a warrior and what should be, in your opinion. well, this is a very

extensive question. it can have several approaches, such as european, asian , ancient, epic, archaic, and so on. but the first thing is the most important thing - this is the archetype of service i repeat this phrase very often, yes. our lives do not belong to us, they belong to society, we give them to society and do not ask for anything back. well, because these are the rules of the game, we do it there not for the sake of some mythical public good . is there simply for all the good against this bad, no, well, they understood that this is right , before giving orders, giving commands , you have to learn to obey yourself , yes, this is the basis in principle. well, this is the basis, the same with

service, that is, if you understand that you dedicated, you dedicate yourself to society. well, then it is possible that completely new horizons of perception open up, well, this is the difference, for example, between people who consciously chose the path of the military yes and people who were forced to become military, although the same thing can be said, for example, how are we there about there about our about of our volunteers there in the 14th year, they didn’t want to, it was forced, but still people decided and made a choice. and that’s why now there are certain nuances, but even if a person was simply mobilized. well, as of now, there is nothing in this absolutely bad, it's just that the task of a person is to directly understand this truth, first of all, good day, you're in the army. well, there's nowhere to go, and the situation in our country is so very, very

critical, well, it's really like that, and you too you must maximize your potential and your effectiveness because you perceive reality as it is, you don't build castles in the air there, you don't paint illusions, you don't try to escape from reality, although reality can be very, very unpleasant and very traumatizingly painful i definitely want to run away, and i never condemn people who are going through difficult times , because of difficult conditions, because of difficult circumstances, but sometimes they find some relief, for example. to breathe out is ok, but to fall, for example, in pique, uh, self-pity, this is already wrong, this is already new well, if we all stick together, then well, no one will collect piles of it society is traumatized

by war, the city is traumatized by war, and this a reality that is impossible not to perceive, and as there is often on the internet , a cunt converts to give to people, yes, i convert trauma, productivity, let it be compulsive. all people are different, all people have personalities, and you can look for an approach to everyone, but it is also worth understanding now that you can joke about your personal for the good of society, because if we don't do it now well, personally, it may not be relevant to you. they turned to psychology after

the capture, they talked, of course, of course . well, this is absolutely normal, normal things, well, to keep yourself together . but again, i don't visit all the time, but if necessary, i knew who to turn to and i know who has it. well, who can help there, for example. well , the situation is also absolutely normal. there is no need to stigmatize certain conditions of people there, especially if a person has been there through there. mental trauma well, how many people, like almost everyone, well, the only thing is that the help should also be correct, so that, well, not just to normalize the traumatized state of a person, yes, and to clearly define the boundaries between the norm and the abnormal, yes, because there is a lot of modern, modern practice there, psychologists , they are just they normalize pathological conditions on the oh and this is wrong, it is possible to finish off the developed western

societies there, yes, where a person tries to perceive himself as they are, yes, not because of the desire for the best, not because of self-improvement, or not simply because of accepting yourself as you are with all the weaknesses and so on, motivating it by the fact that it is hellfi, i found levin on, but well, this is a little bit wrong, yes . and if we had a goal a little higher . -any lion now a-a but you will be able to think about quality later you will know everything. one of the main postulates of tactical medicine . yes, we exchange life for health. so when we save a person and in field conditions, yes. that is , we first think about life but then about health, enough of such a rough analogy, well, enough a rough analogy, well, about that. it can take place right after capture , yes, well, you should consult a psychologist. of course, but did you have

, for example, uh, what kind of military psychological training, some kind of special one, well, we understand that there is military training. maybe there are three psychological training i'm asking because well, for example, yes, in case of being captured, well, how to behave there, how to withstand all this load, yes, how did you personally withstand this load, well, what were you going to pay off, well, an interesting question, well first of all, there was no specific special psychological training in our country. well, it was not conducted, and in general, for all the armed forces there, i can say that such a phenomenon as mpz is a moral and psychological support, and it is like psychological help. it was always considered quite secondary and i consider this a shameful practice

. well, it’s a reality. i don’t blame anyone . it’s just like that because everyone. but refer to well as to hm well, people who simply occupy a place in the staff is not considered correct because it is important in our country. we have carried out effective actions regarding the reformation of the general service of work with personnel. so, uh, and the deputy for work from the same staff is a person who can perform all the functional duties of the commander, because he is his deputy. plus , he also has a very wide range of powers and responsibilities. so it doesn't end there with cultural and mass events, yes, there , to go to the cinema there, yes. shall we to organize a folk art concern there, or to read there, for example, some historical literature, and so on . well, it is also useful. well, 100%, but it is necessary. well

, in order to feel your unit. yes, you need to constantly communicate with people . you need to know. to track them, well, there are protocol actions that are carried out for this purpose, that is, monitoring yes, there are more informal actions that are, in fact, they create the atmosphere of the unit, and this is very important there elements of preparation well, first of all, you can never to prepare for us well, the first rule, er, the first rule, which concerns the half, you do not fall into captivity, the second rule, well, look at the first rule, everyone went through it and goes through it in their own way, er, people also react differently, i just, well, in short, for example, about my personal perspective yes, i can only talk about my case, because i know. there are a lot of situations where people have a completely

different reaction to other consequences, and we are different, so there have already been moments when the media asked me yes. and i said how did it really happen, how did it really happen, how did it all unfold there along the way? well, it was perceived there by certain other military personnel differently , because some were more fortunate, some were less fortunate. about training, well, look, without preparing for war , how we have always trained soldiers. yes, there is one basic language, yes, it is a moral readiness to kill and be killed. this is the

rule of the game. first glance, but still there is a constant struggle of the natural self with the supernatural self, well, these are personal perspectives, but when you become part of something, a larger part of a unit on the division of a platoon against a battalion of a brigade regiment, then that's when it takes place, that is , a military unit is the only large living organism where everyone must be in their place, where every cog must be properly loosened and turn as needed so and then so then there is a moment of coherence then a moment of e-e balance so and then there is a moment combat effectiveness and all the other things they just pull themselves up and take their place if the units have time to normally cultivate some kind of correct constructive atmosphere there, the sotovci succeed, well, in parallel with the high anniversary of combat training, but now we, well, the general trend in the country, we

can’t, for example to provide for ourselves there the level of combat training that we would like to give as before the time of a large-scale invasion. when we can spend years training people to prepare them for polishing all their skills and experience, and only then let in more prepared or parts . well, you have to change your shoes on the run. so, and look for new, new ways to effectively solve problems . let’s talk a little about the war, and we’re waiting for the announced yes, and another offensive, yes, the russians. do you believe it, well, if it will be, what will be the scale, soft directions are possible. well, look at how i feel about it, yes. and why is he eating now ? well, that is, there can be a lot of reasons

. to prepare the actual offensive well, that's all, that is, it's completely uninteresting now, well, from my position, well, that is, i'm speaking exclusively for myself . yes, there is no difference. they prepare it there in a month, in two. in three, in four, in a week. i know, i don't know when. maybe it already happened, but it was a bit so flabby. it's a situation in which we shouldn't constantly look around. the hopes of the russians when planning their actions. we should be concentrated and focused on our own actions. rabbits with a constant news feed yeah damn yeah yes-yes-yes-yes yes that one was captured that one was captured and that one was repulsed mmm and when they advance oh damn something tells me that there will be there in a month yes and the cia says that there will be two of us oh just what does one do, one does not need to prepare one's forces, one has to change the way of thinking