[000:00:00;00] there are people, i assure you, they will be found, but it is really impossible to make mistakes, eh, it will be a difficult job, because everything will be cut, just as the former communist leaders cut in their turn, and in fact , already in the russian authorities, and many bedsores, as we see, thank olga kronosova, political an analyst and from st. petersburg, who can also, as i now understand, separate from russia because , to put it mildly, not everyone in st. petersburg thinks that they are similar to the chinese, they are more like europeans, thank you, ms. olga, and now it will be in there will be a short pause, the plot will be videos, and because well, we need literally 5-7 minutes , and a very important question is that

the business continues to exist in ukraine, now it is called relocation, that is, it changes its location from kharkiv to lviv or there from donetsk to ivano-frankivsk and so on from kyiv to rivne and that's exactly what this story will be about . first of all, it's lviv. where are we located ? accordingly, we film what we see around us and you can see how lviv has changed in the first a year of full-scale russian the invasion is just in our story, we learned what the missile attacks of the occupiers are, the war that lasted eight years in the east of our country, all ukrainians felt how lviv changed

during the year of the full-scale russian invasion. in the days of the great war , people from ukrainian cities began to arrive here and active hostilities were taking place, many of them stayed in lviv, settled and even moved their business here, so here a lot of new coffee shops, restaurants and enterprises were opened that were able to provide work for immigrants, for example, a network of these coffee shops appeared during the war, the owners came to lviv from kharkiv during their year of stay, they developed their business, they use several establishments and plan to expand further, as we got to lviv, at first we waited there for a week or two, then it became clear that

something had to be done, we decided to do what we know how to open, we found an investor, and he helped us with his help, we opened a network in lviv and we want, well, we want to work for our state, there are some desires to one day develop our network somewhere in europe, but now we think that we have to work for the state first of a full-scale russian invasion. lviv also became an information hub. thousands of foreign journalists worked in the local media center and covered the events in ukraine tourists familiar to lviv were replaced by correspondents from all over the world , the world's leading media worked here and continue their work in mason forte mission

of every journalist to work and tell what is happening in ukraine now, all the civilians i talked to in lviv help to raise funds for the ukrainian military or are involved in humanitarian aid for displaced people, you are united in this fight against putin. i think it should be shown if they continued their support and helped you to win, so in a year, lviv and the region have grown significantly, according to the information of the head of the lviv regional military administration maksym kozytskyi, now more than 200,000 people are registered in the region alone of forced migrants, the real figure may be higher, mainly ukrainians came to lviv from the east, for whom it was a crime to speak an enemy language, so free ukrainian language courses were organized for them during the year , people were encouraged to listen and communicate in nightingale. "a voice has appeared and they need to be able to cut it in ukrainian, that's exactly why they go because they want to speak the language they speak here , they understand the need to

go and speak ukrainian in the store they have such a desire to speak ukrainian with their friends, they have such an understanding and they are trying. nevertheless, lviv has noticeably russified, so much hostile language on the streets of my city, i have not heard it yet. these are the changes i have seen, and what will other lviv residents say , many visitors now immigrants, a lot of russian-speaking population has appeared, which is very felt for the city of lviv. well, the city, of course, we live in a state of war, experiencing anxiety, that's all. i'm just mostly at work, i don't see these changes. so maybe some roads have been improved. oh, how am i? i i don't see, at first it was very tense, but now people have gotten used to it a little, to be honest, i'll be honest, they also remind us of the war , except that the air warning signals are less frequent, mass rocket

attacks are less frequent, so the residents of the city have the opportunity to live a relatively calm life, they go to work, schoolchildren study in schools, and preschoolers attend kindergartens kindergartens, we almost do not feel hostilities, but we provide a reliable phone for our defenders, we work , help and believe in our victory khrystyna parubiy volodymyr zeleny tv channel sport life ukraine new channel project espresso project about the war and ukraine spotlight ukraine a product created by the best journalists and experts inform analyze forecast spot like ukraine exclusive interviews with foreign guests politicians diplomats economists military lay ukraine the key to how we will live the next few years lay ukraine with volodymyr ostapchuk every sunday at 9:30 p.m. on espresso , vasyl zima's big broadcast my name is vasyl

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p.m. i will discuss with you the various circumstances of the ukrainian and not only life now we will mentally go to poland where we are waiting and we are waiting for him michal marik, founder of the center for research of the modern security environment and we will ask him about our joint actions, resistance against russian aggression , and glad to see you, glad to hear from you, mr. marik so, look. i have a question for you. prime minister merovetskyi says that ukraine will receive 60 rd-91 tanks. maybe you are not a military man. well, i don't expect such a great answer from you, but it is still important for ukrainians how much rt-

91 nativsky or soviet because we know that it is soviet reworked, so how much is it reworked, how much has it become non-soviet , how much better is it than soviet tanks, because on the other hand, on the russian side, they will fight with russian tanks or soviet tanks, what is rt-91 first of all pt-91 yes, there is polish pp and well, well, what you said is that i am in the military, so i will not share any technical information here, because there are many better experts than me in this regard, but first of all, it is modernization, which has the newest but relatively newest protection systems as well new scou systems i.e. fire control e-e it is also another sight hmm i.e. first of all these reactive reactive systems what um such a type of contact one taxisystem era in the asystem of the tree that is it is simply a modernized modernized

version of the soviet sample 772 but it that's clear it is clear that it is more modern and it is a more modern model than these models that are used very often are russia at the front , that is, absolutely, this is a positive option and i think that it is absolutely capable , well, let's say behave at the front here as well it can be used actively to fight against what russia currently has on the front, now the question about warsaw, about the meeting of the bucharest nine with mr. biden and the conversations that took place there are very interesting to ukrainians, after all, there are options for ukraine to join the nato alliance, this is very important the question and then you question how big is the power of this

bucharest nine, how much can these countries neighbors of ukraine to a certain extent put pressure on the rest. and to say and win this duel and to involve ukraine in the end to nato, at least at least at some level, at a level that ensured some peace of ukrainians for the restoration of their state and the knowledge that the russians will attack how likely it is, first of all, the bulgarian group yes, this is one of the formats, this is one of the formats, on the basis of which you can work , build on the pressure of other nato members, so that they would open up to ukraine, in our, in our, in our alliance

therefore, this is one of the diplomatic structures, as it is used to lobby for this step , that is, for ukraine to be one of the members in general. this is not this one of the main factors and formats which using now we can focus on this to stimulate military aid for ukraine first of all now the most important thing is the help to organize as much weapons as possible for ukraine whether ukraine will be chased that well, unfortunately, but that’s it for now so far it’s quite a long prospect yes and now the most important thing is to simply defeat er russia, stop er their offensive and help ukraine to be able to move to the counter offensive and this is the most important thing and this is exactly what these formats will be used will be

used, including er m poland to in order to help you yes, but it is the idea that ukraine should be in a natural state well, this idea is there, but now we need to focus on something else, that is, simply on the help that you need now . i share in the sense that many americans and europeans say let's win the russian war first , but they can answer in this way: listen while it's hot, how is it in russian, cast iron while it's hot, when it's hot just right

you can join. and when the war ends, then already. well, there is no danger. it's okay. russia has retreated, we won. why take them to nato? if it seems to me that here, how can i say , this logic is not certain, just certain logic was to listen. yes, now is the time to join. don't wait for victory and after the victory and suddenly something will change and suddenly something will change so that well now we, well, now we'll wait , we already won, you won without nato, we won, we 'll give you weapons, why don't you get into the senate, sit at home and you're so strong too is of fire yes, well, yes, here, our perspective is completely different, yes, remember , europe has already changed its opinion on the topic of russia, and the first main step is for you to expel the russians from our help, to

expel the russians beyond its borders later, when russia already loses, it is not if the defeat of russia does not mean that if we do not already perceive russia as a threat absolutely we will know we will know what will happen next i do not know in 10-15 years russia did not know they will try and we must as soon as possible and for our safety and for your safety well lobby for that and in general well, just accepting ukraine into nato, that is, this factor. i think it won’t work for me, we won’t change. to put it bluntly, the poles will never change their minds about that and russia, but the main thing here is the germans in germany and france . but i think that they won’t change either. eh soon my thoughts even after the victory of ukraine, that is, i think that um this uh if hmm what you told but from the ukrainian point of view it is natural for you to think so but from our perspective well it does not look like that at all and the moment when russia loses for us

it will be like the time to prepare for the potential next war, because we will know, it will be clear, when russia loses to them, they will not stop there, it is necessary to radically change the entire system, the system, the political system, the socio-political system, and this is necessarily a topic for the russians, it is the russians themselves who must change our opinion. well, here we can't have any strong influence on it. hmm, so we understand that the threat from russia is, well, it's not, it's not about me, it's not going to happen somewhere there, even in 10-15 years, we 'll have to involve you in the future nato i i would not be afraid of this perspective when we talk about changing the system. and how can we even imagine the influence on russia so that russia changes this system, because when the system was changed in germany or in japan, there were foreign troops there, there were americans-englishmen there, as it is not surprising that the french were soviet there and they actually managed

the process, we said listen, this is how you will do it, if you do it differently, it will be bad and so on , i.e. and now no one imagines the occupation of even a small part of russia and then the question arises, do they remain there, er, imperial ambitions will remain, er, militant will remain, political parties that led to war will remain, political ideas that also led to war will also remain and that 's the end of you, if the end of peace again and russia can attack somewhere again, maybe not now to ukraine, i don't know, to kazakhstan, to the same poland, to estonia, to finland, i don't know what kind of imagination the russians have there, who else would they attack, that is, there is a problem, that's why i say that even when ukraine

already wins this war, this war is a threat on the part of russia, it will remain as it is and we understand that, that is, i would not say that i am not afraid of the fact that even after the victory, after the victory i will tell you no, you do not need nato now, absolutely no, it will not work like that, but to change the system in russia, so that the russians in general understand that it will be useful for them to change their system, they need a very powerful military defeat, absolutely military , they need them, they just need to understand that they lost, that no one betrayed them, that there were no such as in germany, yes after the first world war , they created wars for you . so these myths about the fact that the jews betrayed the honor of the globalists and so on. destroyed no one betrayed them, they simply well, they simply lost stupidly. yes, it was a very strong factor that influenced their

opinion on the fact that it was possible to work with them later and in russia, the russians need the same thing, they just need a serious a direct military defeat and then we will see, but this is not the case, it does not mean that in 10-15 years they will not try to attack someone again, and we must always be ready to defend ourselves against them. and this is precisely what is useful for us and for you so that we all would be, well, in nato, the north american north atlantic union, look, now the question is trust or distrust, poland can conduct training of the ukrainian military on american f-16 planes, here we are, and the british and the americans and the poles and in short, many representatives of different countries say yes. we need to teach ukrainians to fight on f16 and f15. i don’t know about other

french or swedish planes, and somehow there is no result yet. i would say, preparation for the result. do you believe that ukraine will receive f16s under the time of the war with russia. because when they say in a year, i sit and think , what if suddenly we will win in six months , we will win in a year . they say a but there are no results, although here in ukraine we suspect that maybe they are there. maybe they are already standing somewhere, because very often it happens that first they bring some tanks here and then they say, well , we will give you tanks later, and the tanks are already here, maybe the planes are already here, full of interest in the 16th they are hiding somewhere somewhere and we don't know about their existence, what can you say, you understand, well, i'm not quite like that, i'm not

quite like that, and i'm an optimist, but remember, it will be announced, and actions are the second thing, and uh, that's what is now announced, and well, we'll train you, well this does not mean that there are no other solutions here, and just like two or three more months ago, no one would have thought that even these four leopards would already be in ukraine. yes, but you already have leopards, there will only be more and more , you have to wait little by little. well, unfortunately, in general, everything works like this, and also according to the f-16. i think that it is absolutely necessary to wait and it really does not seem, i do not say 100%. yes, i'm not sure, i don't know, yes, i'm not a participant in these decisions, but two or three months ago, i would not have believed that they would hand over the leopards so wholeheartedly. now, i'm sure they will. and that there will be a lot more of them than our polish four and also this at 16 i think we have to wait and everything will be ok everything will be fine one more question about the poles in the broad sense

ah there are even journalists in ukraine i hear them sometimes there are political scientists who say what? if you listen, ukraine has already won, the yellow-blue flag hangs over the kremlin, in fact it is not so, but what do the poles think about the situation at the front, do they really believe the words of british intelligence, american intelligence, what is the prospect of ukraine's victory over russia or do they believe the whole victory or do they see this victory? are we here in ukraine thinking that we have already defeated everyone here , if not today then the day after tomorrow we will defeat everyone and everything will be fine . in this in this duel is absolutely here different people think differently so many people do not believe that

anyone can defeat russia yes russia is a huge power but these same people also do not believe that nato can defeat russia yes but let's say it again, it's difficult, i don't know how the polls are doing it now, and i also don't believe that the polls now somehow very, very realistically answered this question , but going back to the question itself, i think that the majority of poles believes that he absolutely won over ukraine ukraine is possible only the question is how the crows imagine victory so because from our point of view victory is first of all that the russians will simply leave your territory as we imagine victory as this it's just that the russians left the entire territory of ukraine, but this victory is absolutely possible when we talk about victory as the collapse of russia, too . it will collapse into some, i don't know, 25 other states. well, that's just people, well, a small

number of people believe in it. there's another question people see is the victory of ukraine, for example, for the russians to withdraw from ukrainian territory but keep crimea , for example, that is, it is like a victory, not a victory, and people, for example, also believe that this option is real, but it is worth remembering that from our point of view, uh, i think about this, i think about what many poles really think, uh , that the ukrainians can now win, that the ukrainians, that the ukrainians simply cannot lose, because it will mean for them, well, physically, yes, physically , that the russians will simply come and they will kill many of you so physically it will lead to the total destruction of the physical and you are so determined that you are so forced to simply defend yourself, this is simply about your life so that you cannot lose this and this point of view is as if this basic uh let's say

the most important thing and let's see through it from the perspective of these, this is going to happen. well, it turns out that there can be no other option than your victory, the only question is what is this victory, or is it simply the collapse of russia? well, in this, well, it is unlikely, but the fact that the russians are still in two years, maybe 3 years, but for them to leave the territory of your state at all. it is absolutely possible and i believed in it. mehal marik , the founder of the center for research in the modern security environment, was in touch with us . i switch to russian language, because one of the best specialists in the world is precisely pro-russian, i am russian nuclear weapons, he is a researcher at the un research institute in the field of disarmament in geneva, the head of the project of the nuclear forces of russia , we have seen him pavel feat pavel hello, i changed to a language you

understand better and now i will be with you communicate here, look, i hope we open our eyes to many riddles what is the riddle of mr. putin , he says, we suspend the implementation of some contracts with america in the evening of the same day or the morning of the next ministry of foreign affairs of russia no, it's not about it. putin didn't talk about it. he didn't talk about it. we continue to do it. everything that was said then comes out. who is the next person to poke around today or yesterday ? he is considered to be putin's right-hand man .

i wrote it myself in this speech, we are not here, and then i read the experts of the expert. we withdrew from the treaty, then we entered the treaty, once we disarmed, once we moved what happened that russia should be afraid of putin's words that they withdrew from the treaty, or maybe they are not very afraid. in fact, the situation is such that on earth , the so-called person will not change anything.

it's not that simple, first of all, secondly, it doesn't make any sense in general. it's not practical , it's political, that is, if russia decides to increase the amount of weapons, it doesn't gain anything from it, it doesn't win in any way. the quantitative limits of the treaty are another reason why nothing will change in the sense of the deployed weapons, but even though it will change, the opportunity to check whether the situation is really such that russia adheres to these things will be lost. eh potolkov to negotiate er its main value was not so much in setting a limit on warheads or er missiles, but in the fact that the agreement created a system of er data exchange system notified a conflict resolution system

and er ultimately a system eh, inspections on the ground, that is, everything worked in different ways to give each party the opportunity to convince the other party that everything is fine, all the provisions of the agreements are being fulfilled, and missiles and warheads as much as was declared and as many as allowed by this exit, i.e., this is not exiting the agreement , this is when the agreement is suspended, i.e., all this verification activity is stopped, it is changed, and russia has left itself the opportunity to prove that it is that it adheres to these ceilings. there will be such deferred ones that are called uh naturally that there will be growing distrust of uh russian statements about

attachments here uh a provision of the treaty and well, since in russia there will be no opportunities now to find accusations somehow to answer, the situation will gradually worsen precisely in this sense, that is, there will also be terror, mistrust, and uh, pavel, look here . here is another main question. well, an important question from my point of view. and what inspections are better than space? well, i came to look. but if i am a specialist, then i think there are some stationary satellites hanging over russia, just like america, and they see everything and know everything and look at everything, why should i go and feel everything with my own hands if i can get a sim from space and say yes, this is a rocket here it's all right. and it disappeared somewhere. now