[000:00:00;00] good evening, madam ambassador, so let's start with this information, which is now being discussed so lively in the ukrainian media, which appeared in the american media, which was said to be evident from the sensational meeting of the federal chancellor and the president of france with volodymyr zelenskyi in paris, which allegedly discussed what should be ukrainian ukrainians should think about negotiations, and these negotiations can be provided with more western weapons , do you imagine such an option in general, the exchange of military aid for negotiations, well, first of all like you, i didn't read this article. i read what i thought . well, that's right. our ministries didn't comment because it's our position. well

, it remains the same as before. ukraine she decides herself if and when she wants to enter the term. that is, our own position has changed there. i was not in paris, i heard from my ukrainian contacts that president zelenskyi was very satisfied with this meeting and this conversation and it seems to me well that we may be just one of there are many of them, hmm, let's say, i'm not saying fakes, but well, they think, they think what they write, but i don't know if there can be any truth. and tell me something, you, as a diplomat, generally believe that this war ends exactly at the negotiating table, the russians look now with people ready to win about anything, russia is not ready and ukraine is not ready either

. i understand this, the country wants victory and that is right. well, because russia attacked ukraine, ukraine is only defending its internationally recognized borders and we are taking that too negotiations are very often spoken of as what well, diplomatic very often they say that all conflicts will end like this, but i always i always answer that i'm in this country where there were no negotiations, not after the second world war, there was something that, you know, ancient and indisputably there someone signed something, but these were not negotiations in principle, if we talk about military aid to germany and ukraine , every time we are faced with a situation when we have to raise rates with this military

aid, first of all we talk about whether another video of weapons that it cannot be delivered, then a new decision is made that essentially refutes all previous considerations, what do you think your country is politically guided by when it makes these or other decisions about increasing the level of military aid, well, our policy is no longer for everyone , it really has changed very dramatically a year ago, on february 27, our chancellor gave a speech, well, what will really happen, i think it will be in the history books, hmm, this, this, this site is really something completely new for us, and i think this is another reason why we sometimes our decisions about

the supply of weapons was possible not as quickly as in other countries, it is really monemic, it was not necessary to get used to such a new policy , but you still see the result. congratulations, we are among the first, if we are not the first, weapons for ukraine or in europe, and we are really gradually and watching not on the course of the war, we are trying to characterize these weapons that we ukraine that ukraine needs. how do you assess the changes in the energy policy of the federal republic? we know that over the years there was great hope that energy relations with russia will not change that even military conflicts do not have to stop the supply of energy carriers from russia and by the way it must be said that in soviet times - this was really a golden rule and the soviet union itself never

tried to order europe as a whole to disagree with his foreign policy or with some aggressive actions, let's say such as the war in afghanistan, now everything is the opposite . how do you evaluate these changes now and how far can you say in germany that you are no longer dependent on russian whims from the point of view from the point of view of the energy industry, we have already become independent a year ago, we have not received any russian gas, russian oil and gas, it is because of sanctions, no , already. well, the tax has ended. it was tight for the poor. it was during the cold war and we always received its russian nose, but as you know, i was not

here in the 14th year, no, and even before that, i very often saw russia's energy supply as a weapon against ukraine and others country until this year that is, for me it was possible less of a surprise, this is a prize and the good thing is that germany in general and in any case wanted to get out of these energy seeds, i wanted to transition it completely to restoration and not argedia and this war in itself to the extent well, after all, it will not speed up this politics, and we had to react very quickly, and we did it. how do you assess the unity of german society today in understanding the

challenges that arose as a result of russia's attack on ukraine? this is not just an abstract question. there were tens of thousands of people, and the march was organized on the initiative of the deputy of the budennostag, mrs. sarah vaging nekht, you know that the letter that actually calls for the end of aid to ukraine and which was initiated by the pva, as in them, you together with mrs. shvartsev collected hundreds of thousands of signatures, and personally it is very shameful when the criticism of these there are already such. this is also our e in germany, well, it is very large and i, well, i, like you, know how many people i have signed from this, but i think that for

the fact that germany has more than 80 million inhabitants, 6,000,600,000 is still a lot, but this not quite, not the majority and the majority of germans still support, well, we support ukraine for the fact that we supply weapons to ukraine , well, the latest polls are in flight and showed that more than 70% of germans think so, and even well, on friday you see, germany was in the salon in october, in the october blue kolov. well , we also joined a lot of our embassies around the world, and the ukrainian flag was in front of the border.

the chancellor said that china will be evaluated with from the point of view of his attitude to the conflict in ukraine not by statements but by deeds, literally before this statement by the chancellor, not only was the so-called peace plan of the people's republic of china made public, but also a meeting between mr. olaf scholz and a member of the politburo of the central committee of the communist party of china took place. during the munich conference how do you in principle assess the possibility of european countries to influence beijing from the point of view of er stopping hostilities, at least more cautious attitude of russia towards er what we call escalation situation, i think that we should definitely not talk to china , where our cancer leader is, it is the leader of the so-called global rooster, and without the support of these countries, it will be very difficult

for ukraine as well. 20 of them, unfortunately, did not vote for the resolution on february 23, but the chinese did not do it either, but we are all trying to convince these two leaders that it is in their interest to neither support ukraine nor the territorial integrity of ukraine, because it can to be in other countries that neighbor is simple if we are not the international community, we oppose the resolution in new york, 141 countries could have voted for it very well, but at the

same time, we were and no positivity. this is very, very important. well, nemichna and all our partners. we continue to talk with china and india. well, let them see our arguments, or our reasons, or support for ukraine in relation to china. it's good that they still export it. most of them could decline something else is going on in our country, these are the days, well, let's see where it's going, i want to ask about the european euro-atlantic integration of ukraine, it has already submitted an application to join nato, it received candidate status in the european union, how do you imagine the pace of realizing these

aspirations? well, i think that what about the eu er, this is the way, er, we know, we know, ukraine is doing everything right now, these seven steps, no. well , to take these seven steps, what are the european commission, er , showed, er, where else is needed? well, progress, er, hm. i always thought that this and it is in our interest that ukraine has become a member of the ukrainian european union. i really hope that the negotiations regarding our membership are already opening at the end of this year, this is the fastest opportunity for this . well, because you can see that ukraine specifically needs to be made, there is still no need to make

progress, that is, and we are interested in this , because in this way we can work more closely with ukraine to achieve this progress, nato is a completely different issue, ukraine russia attacked ukraine. i just don't see that nato is ready to accept ukraine under these conditions, but what we see and what is good is that ukraine is moving faster and faster to nato standards when it comes to weapons , but also with this. maybe even more this training is important, this is how the ukrainian armed forces function. there are many nato standards that are already valid and implemented, and i think that this is the reason why

ukraine is successful there. well, it probably stands with russia , that is, it is approaching nato. well, it will be in any case and then regardless it will show in the future and tell me, as a professional, i am not worried about it, it is contradictory that , on the one hand, security can only be established through the euro-atlantic integration of ukraine, and on the other hand, you are absolutely correct in saying that now the political will to solve this issue does not exist in nature, even if you imagine the position of certain nato member countries, it is obvious that it is not shared by all the member countries of the alliance. what we see is that all nato countries support ukraine. and the first step. i think it is so that ukraine

can really defend itself. and in the future so that russia is restrained, so that she can't sour ukraine's victories again, not in this war , she can't attack individual er-er again . that russia will be able to quell its ambitions when they see that the civilized world is not going to get tired of supporting ukraine, i congratulate the distance, the optimism of ukrainians, ukraine, that ukraine will win. well, so that russia wins, i will do what i can. ankapelguzen, the german ambassador to ukraine, was on our air and you can see that

she has such i would say a business attitude regarding what needs to be done in order for you to continue helping ukraine to resist russian aggression, it is very important that this support is all european, we will talk now about this with our next guest mr. zhymantos pavillionis, the head of the committee on international affairs of the seimas of the republic of lithuania, he also recently visited the ukrainian capital . greetings mr. mr. pavillionis laba svakas navasakras well, let's try concepts actually, what will happen to us too because i am actually the number one question, i just talked with the ambassador of germany in ukraine

. there is no foreign country . she is there. we ourselves are in madriga and the cat in which, for example, we agreed that the security of all eastern borders will be greatly strengthened, so we are working on the second one , and you will not do it in ukraine. you won't raise your defense capabilities at all . yes, i would say that the level we had in

the cold war was at least two percent , which even today is not observed by many countries, so that jet and the revival of the military industry, because even defending ukraine, we need to have it too technological excellence when the third country is the extension to the 31st and 32nd countries of finland, sweden, and then we come to the main question of the 33rd country , ukraine, and how are the doors opened, i would say not in which you don't need to panic, for a long time, no one wanted us either, you know, once upon a time we had 6 conversmen and one country, denmark, who

wanted to join nato, we worked until the last decision in prague in 2002 when i had accepted er, you must understand that america will not go anywhere the solutions that nato will develop, russia, china, that's all, and they want us to preserve and create unity , so this issue was discussed in kyiv for two days, with 14 countries and countries larger than germany, as well as germany and france, britain, spain, italy, and others, and they agreed on the wording, which is already very much going towards membership, and they

are not yet 100% ready to say that ukraine will become a member of nato. discuss very serious and full security security girlint this no mm eh, without security restrictions, and then there are six or 7 paragraphs that explain why nato membership is important and why nato itself needs ukraine to become a member of the european union, because it will be the end of russian imperial ambitions, eh , it will be the end er, veto rights on er expansion of nato, which russia is somehow informal, we gave er and this can

even be the beginning of the transformation of russia, this is very powerful for europe, it will strengthen freedom in er so, all the arguments that i would say lithuanian arguments that are these countries takes it upon himself, but until vilnius, we need to work in such a way that all nato parliaments, all nato film-makers, uh, this unity was created, and america, uh, according to my experience, as a former ambassador , she will be the last when she will formally say yes, we will be the first, because if she will be the first yes, tomorrow our nato alliance will be divided, they are already half , this is also one of the lessons america learned from the bukovel

summit, it analyzes it, it helps us, i myself, washington every month i will go and expand this coalition to the corner and its new you we must understand that not only ukraine, china, russia is working in all directions against democracy, and we must come out of this situation united, and we also understand that president zelensky cannot enter , offended, not having anything, so that now we how we may inflame this situation until a possible victory in vilnius. but even if it is not a 100% victory, you also saw that one person spoke about washington himself, so that vilnius will open the door for

a decisive decision by washington itself. which should be adopted because we don't know what will happen against 202 24 jacks when there will already be elections in america so that freedom or making nonsense is closing in reality the door to membership is known or and maybe this case will be completed by the washingtonian let's see for ourselves and tell us that we are showing up doesn't scare you what is happening around the drowning in finland? sweden , i don't even have in mind turkey . that hungary has once again postponed the accession to the vote on the russification of the accession agreement, she is sending a parliamentary delegation to stockholm , helsinki.

putin's bratskie strany, that's what's happening , you don't need to pay attention, if you compare the situation in bucharest 15 years ago, i was then the deputy minister and i i saw all these internal dramas. then we were a minority who wanted this good. then many countries were against us now. hungary is an insignificant minority who will go with us because hungary without us is something against us. in our common family receives money and we protect her no she just trades but the most important thing in this case

is that turkey has made a historic decision if turkey is important and it is putin's stabilization to tear off er and she will make a historical decision and how do i feel even after the earthquake in terms of how everything is the whole world and not what the whole world is no hungary no hungary will become

a ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- how do you have a good relationship with them, too? turkey was one of the first countries to build embassies in lithuania, and we know it at all levels, just like sweden, we know a lot about it. we also know america very well. well, i myself was in washington and spoke with very important congressmen . got down on their knees and thought that it was not expansion

nato created peace, friendship and festivals. and we know that it created wars , murders and all this abomination, which is now threatening the stability of the whole world because china is only waiting for russia to succeed. the world understood this and when he will be in kyiv on this anniversary when he saw a lot of friends from france germany britain friends who weren't always with you and now i'm not talking about americans and people like us eh i think victory is very close of course to do everything about weapons, we need to start the engine for joining the european union, which i think will work, and we need to seriously open the door to your membership in nato, which will not happen

, even if the ratification is one or two years, but before this process, when you join nato, even today in finland, sweden, they have our two-way security guarantees, and i would like to. this is how the french , germans, and british stated in our text that these security guarantees would be given to you. i thank you i would also like to say that we are united here, so something. thank you for this opinion and for this besset. mr. pavelonnes, and manta from the pavilion with eh, the head of the committee on international affairs of the lithuanian seimas was on the air with us in this eh there will be a second hour in the program, to which i sincerely invite you to stay with us on this broadcast and after 6 p.m. during

my recent stay in kharkiv, where i met with the community for such a very warm , very important i think that all of us should realize that meetings are important today to support this all-ukrainian dialogue, including where the enemy is trying to stop the dialogues of life, i spoke with the well-known ukrainian writer and public figure serhii zhadan it was a very important conversation, a conversation about war, a conversation about peace, a conversation about the east , a conversation about cultural experience, again, about life the kharkiv community is in these difficult times about how kharkiv has changed and is changing. kharkiv is one of our best cities, which hates its enemies so much that it is trying to deprive it of not

just life, but i would say life energy and he can't do it. so, i sincerely invite you to watch this conversation with sergey, friends, it will be right after the news release on our channel. now i only have to give the floor to ania melnyk, who will introduce you to the news that was already prepared by my colleagues with the news of this hour. days so please good evening, thank you for the most important thing in a few moments and i will start this issue with the explosions in belarus at the airfield in macho in the vise two explosions were heard as a result of which