[000:00:00;00] there is already some plan after the victory, what will you do first of all, i will sail the yacht and leave with a canary model, it is, uh, me. who is the license? well, there is a high level, i can go to the ocean, i will go with my family and with my children and with my mother-in-law and in-laws to the sea to the yacht. i believe that this plan was realized as soon as possible. i am very grateful to you for today's meeting, for today's interview and most of all for your huge contribution to our future victory. thank you. we already have victory , we just have to wait

for victory's advice. will survive the emergency message on the air of the marathon news release in the studio oleksiy fadeev congratulations, the air alert has been completed throughout ukraine repulse and now it is officially known about three explosions in khmelnytskyi, we will ask our colleague tetyana silukon for details, she is now in direct contact with tetyana's studio so, congratulations, what is known on now ms. tetyana, you can hear me and please once again, unfortunately, we do not have contact with khmelnytskyi. we are trying to restore it . well, for now, i will remind you that the air alert in ukraine lasted for about 6 hours and was

canceled approximately just now full information about the consequences of the attack and there is still no, but here is what is known now in different areas of kyiv region at least four devices were shot down two during the last hour over breweries and boryspol with the help of mobile groups it was officially confirmed that three shaheds were shot down in the chernihiv region, together with the military it was reported that some shahedis were moving at a small percentage outside the range of radars when the drones disappeared from the field of view of the electronics and the military was literally looking for them by ear. and let me remind you that our defenders can to help in such moments, for this you need to install the air defense application on your smartphone and use it to inform the air force about targets if you detect them, now we will try to return to khmelnytskyi where, according to official data, three explosions were heard today and my colleague tetyana sivokon works there tetyana please if you can hear us, congratulations

, oleksiy. this is a good connection, i must say that indeed, according to the message of the head of the khmelnytskyi oblast regional military administration , we heard three explosions and an air alarm it started after one o'clock in the morning, somewhere at 1:30 p.m., and in less than an hour, the first explosion rang out, and with a difference of 15 minutes , two more explosions rang out. so, three explosions, as people write , as they write in the public, townspeople heard explosions , saw a large explosion outside the fire at the moment what can i say? i emphasize that up to three hours after the explosions , we do not have the right to say much, but we know that all emergency services are working.

they provide assistance to civilians, what else can i say, the fact is that sirens were heard, explosions were heard not in all corners of the city, at the moment we are in contact with the mayor of the city and the head of the regional military administration in the near future we will of course know all the details, but these were very powerful explosions and there are victims , i emphasize once again, but behind me there is now a curfew and the traffic lights are green, this is a green light for our armed forces. we will take revenge, they will not remain punished and victory will be for ukraine. we are free and independent and we are not afraid of them, but i hereby pass the word to tetiana's studio. i thank you very much . it will be as you say, we all believe in it .

at the moment we know that officially there were three explosions . well, the results will be known closer to the middle of the day . this news release is completed. we continue the marathon, the only news. it has not stopped for more than a year and continues now. i wish you a good and peaceful rest of the night for everything. well, ukrainians are used to living in danger from the east, the second year of russia's full-scale aggression against russia has passed, the tenth since the beginning of the russian-ukrainian war, ukrainians were facing a potential threat from the north , to this day the question of whether the enemy will attack from belarus has become the most popular for reasoning and conversation on all social networks and all changes are we paying attention to the threat from the south or is the unrecognized pro-russian enclave sandwiched between ukraine and moldova a danger

to our country you are watching the marathon united news, this is the accent section. my name is oleksiy fadeev and the accent. today we are working on the problem of transnistria. well , we will talk about it with guests in the studio. in the ukrainian meridian, gentlemen. greetings. so, the first question is probably this. we know that the topic of moldova has been appearing in the media since the middle of february. these are the statements of the secretary of the national security council danilov and the statement of our president and statements of the moldovan side, moldova began to appear in the media space, your version of why it happened in the middle of february this year, it

was what is called, as it is now fashionable to say ipso russians. why because transnistria and moldova appeared as early as last year when the great war had just begun, first of all , i don't remember one of the options, even before the start of full-scale aggression there. there and on some maps that were published at that time, it was written there in arrows, the attack and the offensive on odesa, the offensive on kirovohrad from the transnistrian side, here and in principle there is nothing like that here, that is, it is enough, but a year after that, we already know that in in principle, to attack the russians from transnistria, well, at least it will be extremely difficult in this situation, in this situation, it is not difficult. why, because at the time at the beginning no one knew how

the war would develop, or rather, well, i was not too, too brazenly calculated what would develop according to their scenario and in those conditions transnistria really posed a threat precisely as an additional blow to the back, well, under the conditions of, for example, the landing of the russian landing force in odesa or their advancement, if the capture of mykolaiv yes, then yes, then it posed a threat, whereas before, it was an auxiliary blow in order to search the ukrainian forces transnistria by itself does not pose such a threat to this group there, even if you combine the russian proper forces and the conditional transnistrian forces but you know, we have many different versions and why because people well , for example, there are 14 armies speaking out of inertia well, what kind of 14th army yes ogvr yes a separate group of russian troops there yes in the transnistrian region er there are 1,500 people actually russians, of which

probably 1,300 are already somewhere well, somewhere approximately so, these are local people who received russian passports, and there in certain forces of course, transnistrian, but in fact it turns out that these forces, of course, they are not able to take independent actions. well, yes, but how about you, mr. sergiy? perhaps you have a version. how would you explain that on the night of february 24 already this year 2023 russia in the evening of the 23rd russia started sending mass panic messages about the fact that ukraine is about to invade the territory of transnistria. oh, what the hell and so on and so forth . what was it? it was an attempt to confuse the cards, i don't know. i'm sorry to remind you in the media .

it seems to me that it is necessary to take a broader context and look at what actually happened in moldova these days. that is, we had several loud statements, firstly, the exchange of information between the special services of ukraine and moldova about the possibility of a coup in the moldovan public, which was also confirmed by zelenskyi sandu, and secondly, the decision of the moldovan parliament on changes to the criminal code with punishment for separatists, to which teraspol reacted very nervously, and the so-called minister of foreign affairs of transnistria, ignatiy , even refused to go to kisheniv, saying the fact that he is afraid that he may simply be arrested there, this and transnistria's attempts to renew the 5+2 format, which includes moldova, transnistria, the osce, ukraine and russia as guarantees and the eu and the usa as observers despite the fact that everyone says that renewing this format is simply impossible due to the fact that russia is in it and here is this background. i think that it is possible that the russians tried to react

to the proactivity that is happening in moldova , to the fact that moldova has started talking about demilitarization again, this the question has been raised since 1999, there was a stubborn decision in 2001 , the decision in istanbul, then 2005 , yushchenko's plan. but then the question of demilitarization died down. i think that we can really deal with an attempt to change the focus, to change the emphasis and to expose the ukrainians. somehow, i shifted the focus attention, by the way, by the way, later on, why here again, mr. serhii very correctly pointed out that, in fact, the question of militarization is that. well, if you don’t look on the problem of transnistria of moldova

, yes, that's the illusion of the fact that this is the first time, yes, that's the first time. well, yes, indeed, in history, in the historical context, this question is raised, yes, it is not the first time that attention is raised. it was all the same about 5 + 2, not only transnistria, there were relevant russian statements about lavrov's statement that five plus two is more alive than all the living, so he too, that's why here it is precisely the consistency of this position, you are the field there, moscow well as consistency there they lowered the instruction yes and they began to point out i would still, uh, you know, i was thinking about what ah moscow maybe after all and i would like someone aggravation why because here, well, here such a situation burned down a mountain barn and the house is why here they would here the red shutter is it is called in this way simply to spread the territory of chaos here and but but but the leadership of transnistria it confidently demonstrated in april and may of last year that it will work out

the number but uh-uh voluntarily in such a hotbed of a great war, even taking into account the fact that there russian peace is completely yes, even the soviet one prevails. i would say it is possible. yes, it is possible. five times the desire is not so bright. there is another thing . well, if the tanks would come there, yes. than with what we have it was a game of the special services, that is, ukraine really warned moldova in advance, or maybe someone else, some other country warned that we saw in february of this year that it achieved a result, that it was really some special operation. moldovan, what kind of american well, as for me, i think that i well, first of all, what is the language in moldova , the huge influence of the russian federation is

not a secret at all, moreover, the well, the structure of moldova's politics and the political practice that exists. yes, it provides all this soil and food for it. yes, well , let's look at it, that is, even something that was not there before in ukraine. this is clearly a cyclical change in the pro-russian projects of the european political community, that is, well. in power, it's one of those indicators, then the second point. so, in addition to transnistria, there is also an industry that, well , it's just that the region is simply pro-russian. after all , it's a lot to bring everyone out, so, again, it's a lot euro of all kinds of various eurasian movements there, it's true it's often dense - these are the same persons who are there today he is there today the eurasian union of youth tomorrow he is there i don't

know there any eurasians for the future there still there and right there he is the russian municipality of chisinau that is, this that's why, in principle, i think that there are certain hopes that russia is really doing something to destabilize the situation, and it has some opportunities. that's why i think that the information can be completely reliable in principle this is the way why everything is interesting you just said, quite rightly, in my opinion, that probably russia sees some, well, conditionally, potential. the truth is in this. and a situation that can possibly be used in some way to the extent that transnistria is well, let's say directly , it is dangerous for us, what potential does it have from our point of view? talk about the danger from transnistria and it is not possible to assess only the danger of perception , you have to look again at the broader context

, as dmytro rightly noted. we have a very problematic gagauzia, and georgia also has places where bordering ukraine, there is a possible spillover effect in the industry, incredibly pro-russian sentiments that are closed from there, which i have seen regarding public opinion, indicate that in the event of a conflict situation on the territory of the republic of moldova, those who will leave will leave first of all to russia, they primarily watch russian news, they perceive er, the russian invasion in ukraine through the prism of moscow's lenses. we have a problem with the situation in chisinau itself, that is , now they are talking about a coup, they are talking about the possibility of some changes in the government structures, all this was against the background of the fact that for almost a year ilan-shore organized rallies, however , on the central streets of chisinau and lanfshore ran oligarchs who seem to be hiding in israel , but at the same time have the opportunity to influence the politics of the republic of moldova and glandshore, who together with vlad the payer fell under

the american british sanctions for the fact that they are considered russian assistants in the republic of moldova, that is, all these aggregates against the background of turbulence in chisinau itself, against the background of the mood in the transnistria region, this is how it becomes may not even be the source of the problem, but it can become its catalyst, because if on top of all this, against the background of this turbulence, we will also have outbreaks in transnistria, then of course it will distract the attention of ukraine and the ukrainian armed forces from their main tasks, you said the catalyst of the problem, but what exactly your view of the problem, that is, there . sorry, the russian troops are falling apart. well, they won't be very successful. i think that it will be from the middle of an attempt to blow up the region or in some way. i just don't see something possible. i'm really not sorry. we essentially have a bridgehead for the russian troops, we have there, of course, simply holders of russian passports, but

who are nevertheless subordinate to the armed forces of the russian federation in general, and although i do not believe in the possibility of an attack on transnistria, but i confess honestly, i do not i believe in february 24. yes, but it can always be a bridgehead for sabotage operations. and another issue that caused me concern is the talk about the possible capture of the airport. to be honest, i can't imagine how the airport can be captured. chisinau, because for this you need to study the airspace over ukraine or romania. but nevertheless, for dmytro's long-standing experience of communicating with moldovans, we must remember that and about the problematic tiraspol airport, which was forgotten. by the way, but from his time even before the russian invasions in ukraine and on february 24, talk about what if they wanted to land everywhere once before

then children from crimea 7 minutes of course now the situation has changed and the ukrainian air defense forces are much stronger, but we must remember all these problematic moments well, warehouses in the sausage shop are old questions about the warehouse in the sausage shop, we don’t really know what kind of weapons are there, now nobody knows that they are soviet, but we are aware that this can lead to an ecological disaster. well , not even to the leakage of weapons, but in order to the fact that if suddenly there is a bug, they will hear it in romania and ukraine, and considering that it is 2 km practically to the ukrainian border , it is a sausage. rational then horace to directly against ukraine and against moldova from the territory of transnistria, it is absolutely illogical, it cannot be successful there, yes, in all of these, as they tried, but but after

a-a february 2014, after they got even more after february 24, 2022, when the russians arranged yes, a big war was arranged without being normal to it, the fact that the kremlin's rationalism is somewhat overestimated. and by the way, this is probably the moment why in the west, in the end, now we are at least some, well, not at least some. yes, after all, sanctions policy changed, they supported ukraine, yes, without a doubt. precisely because it turned out that it is not like that, not like that, there is a predator there , like a secondary one , who can bite those who are closer, and this one. the whole year 2021 he looked like ana nato got out of here yes give me you i want to be the mistress of the sea by the way they started to support not only ukraine

and moldova because the issue of moldova started to be raised at nato summits sandu these days met with belching, that is, they communicate with a frosty side. biden himself mentioned in his speech that as a harbinger of democracy, the republic of moldova again found itself in the focus of attention, although it was certainly not, well, it could have been more than that, if you remember, she was definitely called one of the most successful from the post-soviet countries with the most successful , as it were, promotion , dine, pray that it was the flagship of the eastern partnership. review no, well, on different conditions in view of the criteria that we were guided by when we were called in this way, yes, because here, well, after all , but i would really mention here and mention too much

, but for now, after all, the euro-atlantic integration of moldova still looks like it is more problematic because the neutrality of moldova is fixed and the mood there in the society, unfortunately, well, they do not contribute to the problems in this euro-atlantic ocean, in fact , because it should have a constitutional majority in terms of neutrality , a referendum must also be held, that is, first you must win the constitutional majority of the parliaments and then also the support of the majority of the population of the republic of moldova in order to change this situation was really noticed and moldova, in principle , is now integrated into the new, european european narrative is integrated because, well, at some point she asked especially for home yes for the presidency home well i now understand the reasons for all of us. please tell me whether a referendum can be held in moldova and be legitimate due to the problems of the presence of transnistria, well, that is, from the point of view

of the constitution of moldova, transnistria is part of it moldova, but to hold a referendum there, the moldovan government, well, it is unrealistic, it is like saying now that kyiv or the government, well, kyiv would hold some kind of referendum on the temporarily occupied territories, so constitutionally - it is legal, but it is simply impossible to do so far , it is incredible, but on the other hand, discussing this issue with colleagues, we allowed in certain speculations, moldova has the same problem with the moldovan language when everyone seems to be talking about the fact that it is romanian, but in the constitution it is moldovan, but there is a constitutional court that decided that it is still romanian because the declaration of independence must be adopted above the constitution, therefore, provided there are good lawyers and political will, it would be possible to play with the issue of neutrality, because whether the state territory on which the troops of another state are stationed can be neutral from the point of view of international humanitarian law - this is absurd, there is also practice, yes. when the elections that should be held on the territory of transnistria , that is, they are held on the territory of the chisinau patrol, yes. that is, there was a bus and units that allowed before that

, there are a lot of these nuances. well, gentlemen, i i would like to move on to the next block, but i would like to, but maybe they are watching us now and some of the viewers do not understand , and for me it is not a clear-cut question with a clear-cut answer , look, it has existed since the 1990s such a thing such a phenomenon as transnistria or the transnistrian moldavian republic it seems that we have certain positions of the west on this matter we have certain positions there the same of ukraine the same of moldova in this regard due to which this entity has existed for more than 30 years which many people call nobody at all, but we don't say that now, we are now objectively a formation at the expense of what it holds or held, well, you know, i once spoke with

one of the creators of transnistria, i won't name the surname, he said it's very interesting the thing is, if there weren't people in chisinau who were also embedded in this whole system, the structure , if it was there, and then the phrase was like, if they were a little different, we would n't have had any transfusions for a long time. that is, this is such a moment. another moment was also said. well, of course at the expense of, including, russia's support, because this gas debt, this economic debt, moldova's gas debt is actually the gas debt of transnistria and to- that is, by the way, this is the moment that moscow worked on moldova and then for 8 years uh, she tried uh, in the whole practice, to impose on ukraine

that what the horde consumes is the youth , ukraine should pay for it in general, transnistria, as for me, i don't know, refute if i'm wrong, but as for me, it looks completely like a rehearsal, which means then for it didn't happen for 30 years, it happened for 20 years donbass and so on, but in fact the scheme is the same. well, the founding fathers went to transnistria for a consultation. mykhailo khushakov, er, mr. such er, was the vice-rector, er, the vice-rector of shevchenko transnistrian state university in tiraspol, he then ended up , but now i can’t remember whether then to the deputy or the minister of education of the dpr, yes, that is, this well, this is classic america , it says that well, let's say that the roads a-a-a-a russia putin's government saw in transnistria, like a successful

prototype or how the roots of the language stretch further deeper, yes, was transnistria deliberately, well, such a sprout of the future of these special operations, what do you think was the idea before , or was transnistria from it, then the idea there, including the dnr. i think that the connecting link here is rather a cossack, a cossack who was engaged in transnistria a question in the russian administration is a cossack who in 2003 proposed a cossack memorandum that provided for the presence of russian troops on the territory of transnistria and many more interesting cushions for russia and a cossack whose invisible portfolio was then allowed to form you know about the politics of ordlo, i, er, too, but i was thinking about this, that in principle

, after all , it is the beginning of history. the activity on the ground of these red directors is real, the fronde was uh, the all-soviet leadership, and there, they were there. in the program, there was a time there, only that they were not taxed there, but there was such a period, not too long, but it was uh , that is, it is like that, but then somewhere from some the moment when moscow completely, yes, well, took control of this potential , of course, that's right, the model was applied unequivocally, that is, the only thing that is there is transnistria, it is somewhere there, somewhere, this whole

story was long. but really, the dnr of the lnr the so-called e it really took six months and er everything was brought to almost such a state well, how is my editor rightly telling me that if you remember what girkin honed there, so to speak, well, he fought there like that and you can only believe er including the fact that it was conceived in transnistria as such is there a training ground or a prototype of the future? it means again that the assembly of russian lands, well, at least the organization of some problems , you know, i too, yes, that is , i think about it. was it that deep, or was it somehow, well, a slightly different evolution there? by the way, i can remember that , for example, in 2008, when after the war in georgia and when russia recognized abkhazia and

south ossetia, then in tiraspol there was no not that that there was no enthusiasm where you watch this teraspil television, he said that the television of free choice was still going there and they , ah, well, i'm only saying that there's only noise there, so they didn't cover moscow, somehow it turns out like that and uh, too , they were there then, what was the rhetoric we are lokomotiv in the cis 2, that is, we are not recognized , we are really a country that took place, and here , despite all the previous questions , what is the economy in transnistria anyway ? well, let's say the company, they worked there for about 1.5 billion well, they are real why? they are registered in moldova, they are, by the way, somewhere in 2004-2005, this is all history . they work for import and export , yes, in some way