[000:00:00;00] well, in tiraspol there, er, no, it’s not that there was no enthusiasm there, where you watch this taraspil television, there is also rivne tv, that’s television of free choice, and they, er , well, i’m just saying that they didn’t hide the noise from moscow there, somehow it turns out that way and eh they, too, then there was the rhetoric. so the enterprise they worked there for about 1.5 billion well, they are real there. why are they registered in moldova? they are, by the way, somewhere in 2004-2005 , this is the whole story.

they don't pay taxes in moldova, yes. that is, it is not from the fierce moments of reintegration, who was here and that's why when all these stories were discussed after 2014, we need ukraine to look at the experience of reintegration of moldova , i always said no, you don't need to look at it, no, no this is not an unsuccessful experience, there is absolutely no way there, even the program that tasis worked near the dniester, there are also roads there, too, even this experience will be conditionally acceptable there, to put it mildly, or something, and the fact that you could go there in tiraspol - calm down in 2008 then there was indignation. how is it? they recognized these there, they recognized these, they recognized them, but we are here, all europeans are like that, and we have the same thing here , their money, where is their money, yes, even it seems that they are plastic, some kind of mistake. maybe they are plastic. yes, and here we are still on this and that even such a threat was sounded at the time with such a hint. and what are they keeping in the sausage shop there? we can remember that it is the property of the transnistrian people. but

in fact it is all the same. this story was not there, after all, there too. an interesting story , for example, the elections when shevchuk became president and uh, how are they? well, roughly as a shortcut to the great reign. who was able to meet with whom means there kamyan meetings with putin hang him there a poet in this bigboard with putin shevchuk met with this lord with medvedev weigh he is there with medved but who will bring money for extra payments for pensioners well this visit is 10 dollars for the whole 105 that is, there is such a thing. well, actually, if transnistria was located a little further south, it would be possible to say that the republic is a banana . well, what kind of corn, of course, brandy

is fine, but not transnistria, yes. to moldova, please tell me, laugh, laugh, but there is a problem, there is a problem region, what do you see, gentlemen, you see options for solving transnistria, well, i don’t want to say a problem , but yes, problems, and whether this is a problem for us, for ukraine, and whether ukraine should participate in this solution, ukraine takes participation in this decision actually because, as i already mentioned , ukraine has the status of guarantors and mediator of the transnistrian regulation, it's just that this participation is not successful enough because it is blocked by russia with the transnistrian chances for a settlement the transnistrian problem for its solution seems to me to arise only when ukraine further strengthens its position in the space of confrontation with russia and the main step, if we abstract from purely

hypothetical military operations . that russia is neither a guarantor nor an intermediary of the company, even a participant, we must admit that the eu has ceased to be a purely observer and is already an active player, and we must realize that transnistria is not a party, and transnistria is a puppet party, a pocket party, chisinau and russia are the process, the ceasefire agreement of 1992, which was signed by moscow and chisinau , transnistria, is there . the contractual base and it must be convinced because, for example, the cease-fire agreement contains the provision that the remnants of the 14th army must be neutral and strictly guard warehouses in sausages, and they conduct joint exercises with the transnistrian army already in 1997

ukraine has the right to also keep a peacekeeping battalion there, that is, here, in fact, if this is one of the arguments, it has always been so, how can it be that they have worked here, so many documents can be pulled from these documents , so much has been passed to mr. serhiy, he says absolutely correctly and by the way, i also agree that 5+2, well, it is no longer there and, in fact, moscow is there and the branch is this and uh, deputy lavrov dates and lavrov is clinging to him for this, and there declared ambassador vasnetsov in moldova. by the way, i am very happy from the fact that in fact, when zelenskyi became president, this activity towards moldova was like this, it was very, very, very optimistic . yes, there are all joint projects, then there it is clear that due to objective reasons , including it, it has been limited to some extent and now here is what is mentioned at the highest level and in this help - help, including in the disclosure of this conspiracy. yes, whatever it was, but what and this was to be raised at the highest level, it seems to me that it is quite true

ukraine due to this change circumstances that changed in this war, yes, it became clear that we are really a security donor for e-e, despite the fact that we are in difficult situations , that we have a war, that we have about 20% occupied, there to solve the territories, that is, none the less, and we can even be yes we will not be able to do this in a certain way, yes. and this is the understanding, it is, and indeed, the statements to the president are about this, too, so i understand that my next question will be absolutely pop for the weather, which is called the public . free conditionally conditional e-e y transnistria as a moldavian-moldovan region and under what conditions can this be a request for pocket money in the event of an attack from transnistria or a request for a pocket no, i also think so, that on the condition of an appeal from chisinau yes, because it is ukraine that

has always opened mechanisms within the framework of which well, if there was a direct appeal, yes, of course, that is, not as far as i remember, we have any agreements about military assistance, i don’t know , it can happen, yes, moldova is neutral, yes , that’s why it’s the same here. attack from russia, yes. it was russia, by the way, it is again the decision of the european court of human rights in the early 2000s on case by case is difficult to recognize that the territory of transnistria is the territory occupied by russia. that is, there in russia it exercises effective control, that is, a precedent has actually been created in this regard, but on the other hand, literally on the other hand, it is from moldova and transnistria is also a nato country, romania, to what extent can moldova count on the help of the romanians, with whom they are not very similar, i will not say that one nation is not the one who advised

which we are currently leaning towards, of course, but very similar, in my opinion, the influence of the romanian factor on the general situation in moldova, and even more so on the situation in transnistria, is somewhat exaggerated, even to the point of fantasy . by the way, there were negotiating formats during the transnistrian conflict from romania, then two plus three yes, there were some uh-uh, but as for me well, maybe maybe romania is now coming back in a big way, that's exactly in this exactly in this context although i'm so far well, how do they say about me too early there is one of mechanisms that romania can theoretically use in cooperation with moldova. this is an agreement on cooperation with the romanian gendarmerie in case of riots that threaten the constitutional order of the republic of moldova, which have actually already happened. yes, but there is a very slow reaction from the romanian side even after sandu and zelensky stated that they exchanged information in just

a few days, yuganis made his own statement and said that this is how we will be with the people of moldova , we are ready to support him, but it took several days, although i miss that it's not because yoganni is slow. it's because he consulted with partners in the same way. i think that it will be possible to turn our conversation little by little , but in the end, i would like to ask you , since you are our experts not only in transnistria, moldova, of course, more of a broad a-a specialty. do you see in modern europe , eastern europe, relatively speaking, nodes or grains or points a that would have potential that russia can use and continue to use, we completed literally a month ago a project called the russian

octopuses as a result of europe gained kyiv gained the cases of turkey bulgaria romania and the republic of moldova moldova is of course the most vulnerable because russia is the most integrated there and the political process and economic processes nevertheless remain problematic in bulgaria and we see that constant reboots in and the parliament in bulgaria lead to the fact that bulgaria will not have time to join the eurozone in 2024 , support for pro-russian political forces and socialists and konstantin konstantinov is growing in bulgaria, and , surprisingly, turkey, despite everything in turkey russian narratives are very dominant and it is very difficult to fight with it, it is all simply superimposed on anti-americanism and this ground is very, very, very positive for pro-russian ideas. if we talk about the balkans, does russia's influence remain, well, because we all heard the statements of the president of serbia, it will be successful and these statements were surprising because suddenly

the president of serbia says that crimean ukraine and so on refuses, recently refuses even russian fighter jets and wants to buy something else. well, i think they could have been transferred to ukraine, installation was possible, but whether the heart remains. does it mean more precisely that i am starting to leave this russian wake? i think so. well, they haven’t mentioned the fact that the statements of the croatian president were more surprising. the prime minister, in fact, he should leave. i apologize for the support of ukraine and the parliament, that is , the balkans. i think that in fact serbia is with uh , because the worldview of the majority is that of a large part of the population, and he is a politician.

focused on russia, but so to speak, existence determined their consciousness, and in fact russia's influence there has really decreased at the moment, well, catastrophically for russia, that is, its presence in montenegro and serbia does not mean that there cannot be some kind of relapse there, but in view of all these nuances that happened and that uh, european integration turned out to be a more acceptable option than a conditional one, thank you, more profitable, more attractive from the point of view of the population, delicately said yes , of course, including at such a level, then i think that the institutional support of uh, the state of russia russia's support will probably no longer be there. well, although i say it can't be allowed here, there might be some kind of relapse, but at the moment it still looks like it's only on the mental level and that's all. i don't know more about my colleagues, because they measure

such actions, uh, well, it's not very important, not too important. it's just a note. i think that there can be anything , for example, the example of greece itself, which seems to also support russia there on someone on the mental level and more, it seems more similar, but in fact the country is the same on the momentary christian means orthodox connections. i think so. mount athos in greece means and all means the russian elite means returned to the background and the french elders, but by the way, a ukrainian chapel is currently being built there right and let there be more of them in conditions when russia loses and god forbid it loses, will russian influence in transnistria in eastern europe in those balkans remain or will it be weakened or will this hydra still leave its heads there or their fragments, what do you think, the main one is convinced that it will be weakened

hmm. when nazi germany was defeated, many people were also worried about what would remain there, they would have their position, as if they are finding, thank god, it was done , yes. when this constant and informational support stops, the more there is money er, the russian world will turn very quickly into such a cluster of small sects that will fight among themselves, including over which of them is more canonical, which of them remembers more there is about great russia, but in fact it is just this it will just fall yes catastrophically this and this will not happen wonderful well, i don’t even have anything to add just so be it and gentlemen, i thank you very much it was an interesting conversation, interesting and useful because well the topic of transnistria really was, it suddenly appeared again for everyone in our media

field and probably caused some concern in us. it is to them just to at least reassure and give some rough idea of ​​what is really happening, i will remind everyone that today we spoke with the guests of the studio, this is serhiy gerasimchuk, deputy director of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prizma, and dmytro levus, director, political scientist , internationalist, director of the ukrainian meridian center for social studies. thank you , gentlemen, for an interesting conversation and i will wait in this studio if possible again, it is very nice. well

, the marathon is the only news, three, look , courage is when you don't think, it's scary for you isn't it scary what every ukrainian has, we are all the same, we are one nation, we are working towards one goal and we have only one goal - to defeat evil, life and death, fear and courage, what is a feat, and why is it worth risking to give one's life, that's enough strong market because not everyone will be able to do it difficult questions to which not every adult has an answer we are talking to boys

who are 16-17 years old a student of the 11th grade named glib his friends students freshmen andrii anton viktor i consider life for someone is provide provide enable future for for those who is the expediency of talking in the gazebo of the kindergarten where a terrible tragedy happened a month ago, there was such a sound of a helicopter, there was a fog , nothing could be seen, that’s how it was, and then all of a sudden i turn around and they run from the kindergarten and that’s it. he reached the entrance, ready, people

ran . of course, the children were carried in the arms of their parents, just the children here to the big school, you could immediately see the smoke and very, well, fuel, such a pungent smell in tights, some were barefoot, some were just in t-shirts , and it was cold outside, there was a very strong fog, low visibility well, it's just, well, here i i believe it was the real hell that could have been. glib mentions the market on january 18 in the city of brovary, kyiv region, at approximately 8:20 a.m. a helicopter fell on the building of a kindergarten . seven people, including the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs, among the dead, minister of internal affairs denys monastyrskyi, his

first deputy yevgeny yenin, state secretary yuriy lobkovich, members of the operational group and the crew will later publish a shocking news in the news statistics, the disaster killed a total of 14 people, injured 25 more, about half of the victims were children, children's legs, there was also euphoria, also in adrenaline, you run on the second floor, it seems that two bodies were found , there is nothing scarier , professional rescuer roman yora admits, especially when it comes to those who is just starting to live, if there were no such children at the scene of the tragedy, aviation kerosene was spilled, there was

a fire, who and how much more people could have been affected if it were not for the courage of those who it took a moment to be nearby . it was through these windows, which are now being sewn up with wooden plates, that in the first minutes of the tragedy, children were handed over from the flames to the boys who were the first to come to help. to educators there are also 14 schoolboys, students, also a schoolboy, four very young boys, they were among those who did not get scared and did not jump, they were just somewhere there, they saw it all and immediately rushed to help the children educators to pull children out of the kindergarten itself, because as far as i heard there, children with age were thrown out, well, they were handed

over to a friend . thank you, they worked perfectly. dad had already started getting ready for work and then i heard from the windows what was not an explosion, but rather a blow, they started smelling like harry , what is a slipper well, my house is 600 m from here and until there, nothing could be seen and straight away it was very difficult to solve the fire, you can’t see anything. you can hear the cries of children, mothers. everyone has to go to help. how exactly does a sensor turn on in a person’s mind so that, despite numerous risks , he pushes to be where the trouble happened, this question can probably become the subject of research

by psychologists and scientists, but then anton viktor hleb and andrei, this sensor worked after the first impact. my father jumped out immediately from the apartment, 15 seconds later he was already in the middle of the kindergarten together with two policemen . my mother is near the fence on the other side and it turns out that my mother had already started handing the children over the fence . the frightened children had to be taken as far away from the fire as possible. andrey took the two girls and the boy home. the tragedy was that there were no free doctors, crews, the boys began to examine the victims themselves, found a first-aid kit at home , some cotton wool to treat the children, slightly treated the faces of the two girls with a towel

their teacher was taken away and the boy ruslan was left with us, calm down, help overcome the panic, the boys had to try themselves as psychologists, gleb tells how he tried to comfort a six-year-old boy, he had cuts on his hands, and i asked him, what will you say to your mother, you and your husband, you shouldn't do that for mom to panic, no, he says , well, a helicopter fell in the kindergarten, i'm talking. well , you can't say that to mom , she'll cry. mom was very nervous. nothing. here came his mom. he said so. mom laughed and cheered us up. she thanked us when the rescue operation near the kindergarten was in full swing . there was enough work even outside the red tapes . i saw a policeman pushing the fence to get in. i helped them to scrape the fence with cookies. they told the tenth school they started handing out to the children and mothers who were going , they stood by the fence, they were in a panic, they cried

, they dragged all the cars onto the lawns and freed up parking spaces for ambulances and passage for the desense column, we can see it near the tenth school. people are carrying medicine and food, but they didn’t have much. they needed help. we took water from the women , it was heavy, and we will bring it to the school . they organized some kind of medical staff. they brought alcohol wipes and i see one there. the teacher of this kindergarten suffered a burn on her leg. i saw her very beautiful. she must have had a panic attack. i went in with the bedspreads and covered myself. then i saw that the situation was bad. there was a lot of work, but there were not enough workers. there were many more people who they just

stood and watched, filmed on their phones, drank alcoholic beverages, smoked and filmed everything, the children screamed and squealed, chaos was created here for many, i don’t know whether it was scary or indifferent, who should submit to the feat the one who has high grades in his diary, obedient to parents and teachers, we are in a lyceum and studying bread, the same guy who calmed the children near the kindergarten and pushed cars away so that the ambulance and the fire department could pass, the one who acted when others were just watching . i was his first teacher in elementary school. our bread is not perfect , and maybe it was the impetus that he was in the exact place when this tragedy happened, and i saw an interview with gleb. i was absolutely sure that he would be there at that very moment and

he will never lose sight of this not ideal boy in the lyceum, in fact, he has long had a reputation as a hero, when last year in the spring the rashists shelled the brovary district, he was among those who dismantled the rubble of damaged buildings , today we are talking to you about the concept of arithmetic square root so, today we are writing down the topic of the plural and its elements, teacher hleba knows well what it is like to suddenly find yourself in trouble when you want someone to urgently come to your aid at the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine in a village in chernihiv oblast, the occupiers took victoria captive well, it would be difficult to tell the children about it, if they ask, then i tell it, but not in such detail , because the details are so-and-so. it

remains then straight. what happens around, first of all, it is responsibility for oneself for one's actions, plus it is attentiveness, it is diligence to see that everything was good , it was like that yes, well, why did no one think of coming to work with us, well, i am very grateful to you for the work that was done then during the maidan knife of workers they worked all over the place, but you would have been the first to help our children, our educators , so well done. they are people who did not turn their backs on someone else's grief. teenagers who overcame fear in circumstances that are called

difficult, even professional rescuers on a mention as gratitude from the sign of the ministry of internal affairs for care and courage, this is the same more difficult fire , what was the extra time where i had to work , schoolchildren, well done, yes, they immediately provided first aid, helped to take the teachers out, took the children out, built houses and hid them from the cold from that side of the situation that was on the spot, as they say, being saviors, this is a gift from the minister of internal affairs igor volodymyrovych klymenko, it was given to us for special courage and for our actions of the soil and is still being determined with a life choice andriy dreams of being a border guard anton a military pilot viktor a scout they say they are ready to defend the homeland from the enemy even now that there will be some kind of offensive i don't know now we will already be like that i say and then it won't be like that in fact if it will be like that situation, but i think that i am ready to give my life where my

brother will save his life and all these words that you undoubtedly believe, because these are not the empty thoughts of young dreamers, the words of those who, even in adolescence, fully proved their intentions by concrete actions, courage is when you know that you are fighting an enemy who is much stronger than you, but you are not going to give up just like that and you will prove your principles to the last yevhen onoprienko roman parashev maksym cheblin volodymyr dedov volodymyr samchenko details tv channel inter

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