[000:00:00;00] but i see that the regional leadership is very determined on the account of, well, i don’t want to say forced evacuation, but you know, you are very convincing there of such and such an evacuation . yes, because, well, you know, it is very difficult to understand these parents who, uh, remain alone , regardless of their views. are they alive? are they dons or not? this is another question, but the question is that when these parents put their children in danger, well, it seems to me that we need to talk to them a little differently. there is a regional administration, where should these people go, there are clear routes, solutions for them, what are their arguments not to go, ah, there are a lot of options for where to go, starting with

the regional program for people who do not want to leave the donetsk region, well, move to safer communities of donetsk region there are prepared locations e-e with full support with very normal conditions this is a regional program is e-e let’s say yes state programs people can go to ternopil region to lviv oblast e-e there is our let’s say our local program this is an agreement with the city of uman, there is also a certain number of our displaced people, and they are all fine there . also, you are waiting for our people, there is a full, full, full understanding of the logistics of people .

as they say take a breather and there are such things in us and in pokrovska and in dnipro such hubs that accept our people if there is a desire to go and why don't they want to go, well , for the most part, eh, well, different well, as they say , the answers are, first of all, eh, what am i i will go. this is my land. second, why should i go? if i have it everything is fine here, well, we’re fine, you’re not telling us, you’re bringing us a humanitarian aid, they brought generators, they brought small houses, now give us fuel, give us firewood so that we don’t have to warm ourselves, we don’t have to go, we don’t have to spend money, uh, in some specific uh, let’s say this basic there is a set of food products and hygiene, we provide well, why should we go? of course, there are few answers, but frankly speaking , we do not want to go to the territory under the control of ukraine, and such answers,

unfortunately, it is clear that we cannot. well nothing you he just told you no actions, he uh, let's just say, he doesn't do illegal things, well, which ones have you already planned and are you planning to take a more radical approach to solving this issue, some action steps have already been worked out that will be implemented well, why not bring a humanitarian woman, don't bring fuel or something it is clear that we will not do this, or this, this, this, it cannot be done, first of all, you already know that. well , we see that every step of ours is being followed by that side. of their people

, etc. i'm sorry, they will die of hunger, we will be responsible as the local government , the regional government, unfortunately, these are our people. and that's even uh, it's not even annoying anymore . if it was a certain period before , it was annoying when people said the same thing to the same person at 20-30. sometimes they openly send it there yes, it’s like, well, this is our work , this is our service, we have to carry it out, because the head of the avdiiv city military administration is with us about the situation promptly in avdiivka and in this direction, which is now almost the hottest

. and about the evacuation which is now question number one for the local authorities is to take people from dangerous regions where hostilities are taking place. well, sad news, and perhaps not entirely sad, has reached us from russia, and perhaps not from russia. the iconic russian political technologist, the author of the kremlin dungeons , was named gleb pavlovsky. we will see him now. in the 72nd year, he gave his devilish soul to god. pavlovsky, the founder of the fund for effective politics, was known as a key political technologist of the kremlin during the first elections of president vladimir putin. who did his fund develop the first election campaign ? putin, then he developed the first election campaign for the candidate yanukovych. in 2004, who first won, then did not win, then lost, he was called gleb pavlovsky , the author of temniks e-e, and he was also called one of the ideological inspirers of that dioxide of dioxide that was given for dinner m-

m yushchenko at the dacha a laugh it was a dinner after which yushchenko fell ill in the fifth year on the air of the fifth channel it was announced that the tapes , allegedly with a recording of a telephone conversation, would be transferred to the prosecutor general's office of ukraine employees of the russian special services seemed to be talking about the fact that the idea of ​​poisoning yushchenko belonged to pavlovsky himself. pavlovsky himself then rejected this version of the accusation, this is a rather small lie of the tv channel, he said, who works in the propaganda and counterintelligence mode. well, he admitted that he himself invented the dungeons of 2003-4 his colleague marat gelman, who is still alive , this is how he once reacted to the news that viktor medvedchuk is suing the newspaper "weekend", which called him an ideologue of the temniks, what to sue when the temniks came up with marat gelman and i, a political technologist, said that medvedchuk should be condemned if the temniks did not come up with medvedchuk. and i, well, the temniks , i remember that i remember gleb pavlosku

well, well, the end of the final is when the letter from the president's office came to the editorial offices of newspapers and tv channels , what was it called then the administration of the president by streams what should be announced on the air and what should not be an event such and such 10:00 there viktor yushchenko , the presidential candidate, meets with journalists there, a request to ignore to develop there in russian and the temniks for kuzmy have begun this is the president, yes, according to yanukovych, he was a candidate for the presidency. this was in 2003-2004, or another event. kuchma, because yanukovych, is meeting with someone. the topic is important and relevant. the request is to take comments in the llc. llc. llc. temnik where the transcripts were already, which quote of kuchma or yanukovych to insert into the plot and the whole style , all the editors of the largest mass media received e-mails, it was called temniks from the word topics that were offered

to be covered or ignored by the author of temniks calm now for the pavlovian ones, well, they were offered enough without appeal, so make every effort to carry them out . well, let’s move on. but this is the path to democracy that we must choose for the record, i spoke yesterday with a person who was there at this meeting, uh, of this journalistic asset from the first with the president of ukraine as the first person, then the most managers well, the main journalists there were worried about their question, and there were also the main managers who were there very solidly, that is, there were no owners , it seems, but there were managers, they were wondering when the money will finally be paid for this telethon, because the channels are working, money from the budget does not get anything for it, sign calculate vitaliy barabash is already with us i'm sorry he was with us a little earlier

yehor oazol confused me and we , the member of the parliament of moldova with us, we congratulate you together good day good day congratulations well, let's talk about the problems with transnistria the question does not lose its relevance, although we have talked about it before . can russia now or should it have such efforts and resources to open the moldovan front ? it is obvious that as long as the ukrainian army restrains the russian aggression , transnistria does not play any

role with its famous military potential, as i have said many times on different channels that only if russia attacked odessa, for example, or tried to land a landing through southern bessarabia, then it would be possible to expect that russia would try to activate this operational group of russian troops, but at the same time, we understand that this operational group of russian troops is more a symbol than a real one the potency of that simple reason that more than 70% of this contingent are residents of the lego administrator with a russian passport who went to serve under a contract for salary and they do not have the desire to die for putin. on february 24, i was in

kiev, and against the backdrop of these aggressive declarations of russia, i was called by people from the left bank saying that there would be some peace. that nothing would happen, but nevertheless, some of them preferred to transfer their sons to the right bank of the dniester, but nevertheless, the situation remains stable and controllable, of course, it is unpleasant for ukraine that she is forced to maintain some military potential in this region near transnistria, but i repeat that there is no direct military threat in a situation where putin tolerates movement on the front, but on the other hand , the ministry of defense of russia says that it is ukraine that intends to attack the so-called transnistrian moldavian republic, a quote from the telegraph on the agency of the soviet union and reports for available information in the near future. the kyiv regime is preparing an armed provocation against the so-called pmr, which will be carried out by units of the armed forces of ukraine,

including with the involvement of the nationalist formation of azov well, there was also a statement by the russian government that any attack on this so-called sub-republic of transnistrian moldavia would be considered an attack on russia itself, so what they can threaten us, i don't know about russia and what and is there really a possibility , well, do you know about the preparation of a special operation by the ukrainian authorities to liberate the so-called transnistrian moldavian republic from the russian permanent armed forces and peacekeepers, please consider yourselves and do not take this kind of thing seriously fakes that are spread by various state structures of russia, this is an information war, i have already said many times that, for example, there is no ministry

of foreign affairs in russia, but there is a ministry propaganda, and sergey roblov is not a diplomat, but plays the role of a hepjat . by us, in quiet kiev, there is a collaboration of partnerships that, unlike russia , consider the territorial integrity of the sovereignty of the young republic. war in peacetime is a chance for ukraine to solve this issue and for moldova to solve the issue of the presence of russian armed forces over its territory, the issue of this irregularity located on the left

bank of the dniester river, does the current leadership of moldova understand this possibility that is now arising in connection with the development i am asking for a war connected with russia . uh, in this situation, we perfectly understand the leadership of moldova that the situation has changed radically, the so-called five-party format of the negotiation process, which was a trap for the republic of moldova, has been thrown into the trash - this is just a personal opinion, not an official personal one, and we understand that uh,

now, uh the position of this regime on the left bank of the dniester has become very vulnerable, but at the same time, it is necessary to understand the specifics of the situation on the left bank of the dniester, this is not an internal conflict at all, and the majority of people on the left bank received the moldovan citizenship after february 24 of last year, the flow of people wishing to obtain moldovan citizenship increased threefold. all economic agents of the left bank are registered in chisinau and calculate export operations on the basis of customs documents of the republic of moldova, and under this situation , early smuggling and corruption schemes emerged , which for a simple reason that the so-called transnistrian conflict is all just a cover for the criminal regional business, well, we understand the interests of

the russian federation, and therefore we understand that the solution to the conflict does not require force methods, but at the same time, we are now discussing how to implement the demilitarization of this region, this will require a partnership with ukraine and nato with the united states, but i repeat, we are considering a peaceful scenario without force scenarios for the simple reason that in in this situation, they are not needed, everything can be solved by peaceful methods, without hollywood scenarios, and we are worried about the security in moldova , you said about nato, the head of the parliament, ihor grosu, said the other day that moldova will not become

at the same time as a member of nato, the country should pay priority attention to ensuring its security. and if not too much, how to strengthen security ? what is the strategy here? neutrality can be changed through a referendum by the majority of votes of the citizens of the republic of moldova included in the list, which today is practically unrealistic already talking about how many people left the country and so on and so on , that's why it's not all public for treatment, everything is public but energetic steps are being taken to solve various problems in the field of national security in the situation in which the republic of moldova is in the first place we must neutralize the actions of the fifth column. and that is why the parliament is now on the finish line with laws that

must more clearly describe the powers of the security information service. we have introduced amendments to the criminal code and, most importantly, our the task now is to ensure the political stability and functionality of the state in a situation when mr. zelensky informed mrs. sanda about the plans of russia to destabilize the situation in the republic of moldova and implement the de-factor of a coup d'état, and here we are working in this direction. of the military components here, i can only say that we are twice the budget of the army, but here, eh, i will probably be enough, not with the kempt, but realistic, because everything that eh now is necessary for the war is going to

first of all, in ukraine, and now it is possible to even have some money, but it is impossible to buy any weapons systems, but at the same time , it remains an open question. protects ukraine and, unfortunately, the mood in our society is such that these stereotypes are still preserved , connected with russian propaganda in relation to nato, but it is quite obvious that something will have to be done about it, for the simple reason that, i repeat, it protects us neutrality to me ukraine protects the situation, the situation is complicated, but the priorities are at stake, as i said at the beginning. internal stability and security, and this served as one of the arguments for the appointment of mr. darin rechami to the post

of prime minister . -e but controlled until putin's regime suffers defeat on the fronts, this is the main condition of our security, well, i am satisfied with things, well, who was mentioned, he stated that it is necessary demilitarize transnistria, there is a huge military base there, not a base, military warehouses at the sausage station, er, remnants of soviet weapons, what is the situation there, uaz , please tell me briefly, and did you remember the propaganda, do they even broadcast russian television channels on the territory of the republic of moldova, or does this propaganda continue, please, but in short, on the territory of the republic of moldova

, the rebroadcasting of russian e-e propaganda programs is prohibited. of course, there is a big problem with online mass media. there is a lot of propaganda about putin, but we haven’t found the tools yet . how can someone fight demilitarization ? this is the evacuation or operational group of russian troops of the so-called peacekeepers and the so- called transnistrian army .

for the republic of the young to restore its control over the entire territory, including on the left bank of the dniester base, thank you for this conversation on our air, together with that member of the parliament of moldova, because you are with us, and oleksandr levchenko is already joining the diplomat, the former extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of the republic of croatia in bosnia and duchess alexander good health, we congratulate you , i congratulate you, let's talk about it. the new restrictions in particular concern russian banks - these are the kinkov alpha banks, the unbundling of banks, how do you assess the impact of this new selection package, what will be the effect of the sanctions, between them, they are a tool, not a military tool, and the stations cannot stop russian aggression, it is necessary to understand that the sanctions are somewhat slowing down the development of the russian

economy and unfortunately, not very much, so to speak, that's why if this 10th package of sanctions was already somewhere in april or may, it is possible by the end of the year, something would have some effect. so we know that so far the russian the economy did not fall very much, the numbers were two and one-tenths percent of gdp, so it works in the long term, but of course we need the russian citizen to feel that russia costs not only the russian state, but the average citizen, his wealth, income decreases, and everything from for the fact that crimea pursues an aggressive policy, the policy of sanctions is aimed at the fact that the kremlin has changed its policy towards ukraine regarding the introduction of hostilities and every

package of sanctions is accepted, but the russian federation has not yet changed its policy. well it's good that there are new sanctions on the banking system uh, they should only be welcomed. but again, uh, we need to understand that this is a very auxiliary measure in the uh, struggle against russian aggression, and the biggest thing we have to count on is how many military weapons we will receive financial and economic assistance, military and technical assistance , and to what extent we will be ready , so to speak, even this year to liberate our territory from the russian aggressor as much as possible.

from him these sanctions, and the same business about which sanctions are being introduced in ukraine , the same alpha bank, which is now called sense bank, is working quietly it is clear that it was covered by a number of pro-russian activists. now we see in the verkhovna rada that they are deprived of their mandates of influence and so on, so this process is also parallel in ukraine. the percentage is not we must forget, i absolutely agree with you, this process must be parallel and simultaneous, meanwhile, i emphasize once again that only the sanctions policy is, so to speak, the way to

a non-military regulation of the situation, but not yet a military regulation of the situation, of course not yet on the horizon, therefore, we consider the sanctions policy as supportive therapy, but the main thing is the main therapy and the main treating doctor, so to speak, is the armed forces of ukraine, a studio , well, therapy should be. i know home when uh, well, very slowly sanctions are introduced during the year for two years during the five-year plan, and not the only moment for today we impose a ban everything tomorrow everything is prohibited and so, if time is stretched, then the russian economy simply adapts to these sanctions that are not organic to you of course, the russians are resisting. of course, they are finding some countermeasures and so on regarding these

sanctions, but let's not forget that back in february of last year , a very powerful part of the russian lobby in western countries was established and so so to speak, even in the same france, in germany, in fact, the help was limited to some germany, let’s remember the tales about non-vests, yes , and then they went to the hospital and so on. june, making political decisions, of course, the sanctions were of such and such a nature that they were, but you need to know that the economy of these countries that pay the sanctions also suffers somewhat from these sanctions, so we understand that this is so to speak

solidarity with ukraine , with the ukrainian people, is giving up something, even western countries, and we only welcome this sanctions policy and only emphasize that it should be consistent, real, and it is important that we make such sanctions so that it is impossible to circumvent them or it is very, very difficult to circumvent them studio well, with regard to internal sanctions , in fact, according to the latest information, there are 41 joint-stock companies operating in ukraine, the shares of which are owned by citizens of russia. well, there are not only banks and banks there, there are even scientific institutions. the founders of which and it is about time that a year has already passed since the full-scale invasion . and the war in our country has not been going on for the first year.

mr. oleksandr no, i am listening to you. well, you are talking to diplomats. i am engaged in foreign policy . look at this topic, does anyone really cover this e-positional policy, so you have to understand that of course, that the sanctions policy should follow one line, and this is such a moment, foreign policy does not work as it seems to us. well , to a simple person, it seems to me that when i ask something he says: yes, take it away from me. what do you want to take away from me? foreign policy doesn't work like that. foreign policy is pushed away from domestic policy. it is absolutely not something shady. but sanctions

policy is politics, not foreign policy. this is the policy of our partners in the european union, let's say the united states of america, and other countries outside of europe that show solidarity with ukraine. of course, this solidarity should focus on the fact that ukraine should not lag behind, and the sanctions policy is a club applied by our partners. oleksandr, one last thing. we have already discussed this topic with you as a diplomat . why do you think there are no ukrainian ambassadors in china for more than two years after the ambassador died on february 14, 2018? his name was serhiy kamyshev for two years and an arbitrary year and a year after the great war in china. we have no ambassadors. who is to blame at all, or do we not need that ambassador? please be brief . well, listen. decision-making goes according to the appropriate line if where, where, and so on. heard the statements of our city that the foreign affairs ministry , that is, the candidacy was approved two