[000:00:00;00] to whom on the border, these issues are absolutely not excluded and take place in everyday activities and require real monitoring by the ukrainian security forces, mr. yaroslav. please tell me , do you have allies in russia now, well, at least there in moscow, in the kremlin they say that their ally is belarus, china is obviously a partner, are other countries partners, or are they allies, that is, is russia at least an ally of belarus, even legally, russia and belarus form a union state well, according to this, it is legal but i mean from the fact that how are these relations are developing between them, can we say what kind of allies are these? well, it seems to me that over the last year these relations have grown more

into a kind of internal occupation, which the belarusian opposition has been talking about for more than two years, but in fact, these integration relations between the states come on and on. i think that it is possible that in the near future we will see the full integration of the belarusian and russian armed forces. a very powerful russification is active on the territory of belarus. although it has always been very strong, but recently it has become even stronger and lukashenko manages to keep control over the situation inside the country

. no , not in the near future, maybe in the long-term perspective, well, the question is what we say . in short, it pays off if we talk about the fact that countries loyal to russia will be established everywhere on the territory of belarus even if there is some dislike for lukashenka, i don't know, roughly speaking, whether a quarter or a third of the population is still loyal to the russian federation, so i don't see the point for the russians to establish a direct occupation regime without extreme necessity , it is much easier to continue the policy they are already carrying out and slowly integrate belarus into the system of the russian federation

. to the presidential chair between the two terms of putin - this is dmitry medvede well, who was the president once, let's listen to what he said, and then you will have a question . it will not come out of the ussr if the question of the existence of russia itself seriously arises, it will be resolved by no means on the ukrainian front. and together with the question of the further existence of the entire human civilization, there should not be any ambiguities here, peace without russia we do not it is necessary, of course, to continue pumping weapons into the neo-fascist and kyiv regimes and prevent any possibility of reviving negotiations, our enemies are engaged in exactly this , not wanting to understand that their goals deliberately lead to a total fiasco, a loss for everyone, the collapse

of the apocalypse, when the former life will have to be forgotten for centuries, and for now will not stop emitting radiation , they are strange piles, yaroslav, to a person who is not taken seriously in the russian federation, but who , after all, was the president of this country who, right now, in the interior, told you this, in particular, about strange rubble that emits radiation and about the apocalypse - is this alarming or not? after all, he, as they always say , drank too much the day before, well, you know, the profession of a political scientist of gas is, of course, that that we should follow all the manifestations of the political life of this or that subject , in this case we must listen to medvedev's words and analyze him, but i want to remind you that this is not the first time he threatens us well, in

this world with such a nuclear cake and well, honestly to say the least, it is not surprising and no longer frightening, but this does not mean that we should completely ignore his words, it is clear that the option of using tactical or strategic nuclear weapons exists , how real is it, we can discuss , as in my personal opinion, it is unlikely, there is a small probability that they will use it grass weapons, but completely ignore the statements of the russian high-ranking officials we cannot .

took place, which took place, and in the end the meeting was held and the appeal was made . well, many people want to think that it is, after all, you know, an old infirm grandfather who has lost his mind and they don't pay attention to his statements, but we still have to listen to his speech, isn't it very pleasant? some things are still important for us that he says this about the non-working system of restrictions and weapons, that they are not going to stop the war against ukraine, that their vision of the role of russia in the confrontation with the collective measure has not changed and it will continue

i.e. well, directly or indirectly , not in the direct subtext, we can understand that what is produced by the kremlin in the information and political space . of course, thank you, mr. yaroslav, for your professional answers to my questions. this was yaroslav, a montenegrin candidate of historical sciences. director of the program of russian and belarusian studies of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma, before introducing the next guest and moving on to the discussion of other issues, i want to remind everyone who watches us on youtube. as always, there are three answer options: yes, no , your option has already been voted by 320

people. i can see how many are watching here now, well, in one word, people are watching, judging by everything. thank you. well, join in. so, i am ready to introduce my next guest , oleksandr khara, an expert on foreign and security policy at the center for defense strategies, oleksandr. congratulations. glory to ukraine , glory to the heroes. oleksandr, well, how would you answer the question that we asked people who watch us on youtube: can china help end the russian war in ukraine? well, i was probably in the third category, although i would like to join to the majority, because they look at the problem soberly. well, it’s just me, it’s not a binary problem for me. china can’t stop this war. if it didn’t want to, but it can have an impact, we don’t see it yet, and on the contrary, it’s hesitating, and maybe we’ll say so, okay?

with him, he cannot help putin win this war, but he can help putin continue to kill ukrainians. and that is precisely why we heard from the mouths of the president of the united states , the secretary of state and other american leaders. and what better way to not go down this path. let's continue the chinese topic, they announced in heaven their plan for a peaceful settlement, as they always call crises in ukraine , not wars, and many in europe, in the united states of america, there were comments, mostly critical comments even from universities, by people such as, for example, the chancellor of germany, olafshol , who said this 12 points uh, in the states they said that one point is enough, it is about the withdrawal of all russian troops from the territory of ukraine and this will bring peace to ukraine. what

can you say about this plan? well, in fact, this not a plan, but here too i absolutely agree with our president, it is called china's position on the political regulation of the ukrainian crisis, and in fact, this title already says everything that china does not recognize the armed aggression of the russian federation, despite the fact that there are three important resolutions that were adopted recently, including on february 23 or 24, that is, they continue to actually use russian rhetoric, i would not even call it a position on the settlement of the ukrainian crisis, again in quotes i use chinese theses, i would say these are china’s wishes to solve its problems with neighboring states, that is, ukraine is almost irrelevant . because the key points that are there are territorial integrity, for example . considers it to be its territory of riots, that is, this point i

think is about ukraine , at least ukraine appears in the headlines. of the cold war again. this is not about the fact that the west is limiting and isolating the russian federation for its aggression and crimes. it is about what is actually happening now in relation to china. then there is the point so that the supply chains of materials there and raw materials and so on do not suffer again - after all, here it is about china and, first of all, it means the war of chips, which is unfolding between the free world and the chinese. taiwan and the netherlands are key players in this market. they have joined the export restrictions introduced by the americans, europeans, and now to china. not the chinese will supply the most modern chips, they also produce a certain amount, but they are not able to produce the most powerful, most modern

chips, and even more so in large quantities, which are needed by the biggest players here , taiwan is definitely south korea and the united states , the chinese seem to be in the fourth fifth place then, of course, the chinese don't want to, let's say that nuclear weapons are used, and these are probably two points that are extremely important for us in this document. they write about the fact that it is impossible to use weapons to wage war with nuclear weapons, since it is certain that radiation knows no borders, this is one thing, and another thing, if it is overcome by this and crosses this red line, it will mean that other countries will be more easily ready to cross this border, and i want to remind you that china borders the russian federation, well, now it is a junior partner of china, but still it is a nuclear power, it is a crazy kim jong-un, which in principle is little controlled

by the chinese of russia, and there is also india, with which china has several problematic issues and territorial disputes the name is also a nuclear power. i'm not talking about the fact that the united states is actually trying to create certain alliances or strengthen certain alliances. this is the quota. where is india? this is also where the uk is. the australians are supposed to restrain the growing aggressive role of china. and certain of these countries, they are nuclear, of course they also complain about china in the event that if it wants to return the beautiful harbor and taiwan by force, that is why i believe that it is more about china and the united states and less about some kind of regulation in especially if someone looked at the munich security conference as a priority and that one of the key foreign policy advisors said that he was repeating the kremlin

theses that the americans actually forbade zelensky to make some concessions and settle the conflicts by political means before the invasion and a little later after the invasion, definitely this is delusional, the second point is that they mentioned legitimate security concerns. having in mind, first of all , that ukraine should be, that is, in moscow, in kipyakin, they should decide that ukraine should to remain neutral despite the fact that our neutrality did not lead to security, on the contrary, we temporarily lost crimea and donetsk luhansk and now they want to, well , in fact, further advance the russian occupation and in fact, all these aspects show that china is rather on the side of russia and the chinese are not they want to be more precise and it doesn't matter whether russia wins this war or not. but for them, it doesn't matter in principle that it didn't lose this war, because if russia loses this war, all the resources of the west

will be concentrated on containing china. the first moment and the second moment. imagine how free nations are that can suffer, including from china, and they receive such a moral boost, and the event itself will be more motivated to help. we know that, unfortunately , one of the taiwanese soldiers died in our war, and it seems to me it is very symbolic that now taiwan, thank god, is in peace and security, but on the other hand, there is a constant threat and the threat is increasing, at least in the last year , uh, we see more aggressive actions of china , that is, in principle, the daiks are watching the i'm sorry, the taiwanese look at us, and of course they are inspired by our heroism, but they also understand that they have to strengthen their muscles even more in order to preserve their freedom. alexander , what do you think is the current threat, is this threat

not a direct intervention of china i mean this information coming from the united states of america with reference to this intelligence about er that china may be thinking about selling russia its weapons and its ammunition for these weapons to what extent is this er this is the danger of indirect interference china is real yes, it is definitely there again. i say that it is very important for the chinese that russia does not lose. and we will see the impossibility . despite all these people who say to go , 300,000 mobilized, who are there a million, they cannot radically change anything on the battlefield and in them there are already fewer resources, even the same terrorist girkin says that, in fact, even this old soviet artillery is already worn out to such an extent that it cannot be used soon, therefore, of course , everything that these authoritarian regimes can give to

moscow is needed, i have to take a geranium and have kiev on in mind definitely beijing, but on the other hand, 2 days ago, president biden said a very important thing , so he doesn't have any evidence yet that china has decided and is helping. and he started his conversation with all the cymbals, and even there the conversation was very polite, let's say, but persistent. he said that i'm not making demands on you, but look, when russia invaded ukraine, western business turned around and left there, you said that western investments of companies and technologies are very important to you. imagine what will happen to china if you start to help mr. putin. that is, this is such a very important liability for the chinese, which is actually the most powerful and most restraining than the resolutions of the un general assembly or the appeals of ukraine not to interfere in this war and not to help the murderers. i think that they

will weigh it and make the right decision. this is a decision not to help russia in this brutal war , because even here we are dealing with some humanitarian issues, and the issue of access to european and american markets is the issue of possible sanctions in relation to the chinese companies and a greater escalation of relations with the united states. i think that it is not beneficial for either china or the united states, and that is why everyone will decide not to help zinkov with the bad luck that he framed his senior comrade in this brutal war. well, i really hope that beijing will listen to the eternal chinese wisdom about which you are now talking about the fact that it is simply not profitable for them. well, now let's move closer to us to hungary, which, frankly , has been very disturbing lately, but first let's listen to one direct language from the statement

that the minister of foreign affairs of hungary petersier to made yesterday in an interview with the russian propaganda agency a number of news first let's listen and then a question to you the main duty of the international community now should be to save people's lives because that we do not want people to die. how can this be done with sanctions or the supply of weapons? not only with peace. it is sad that if you advocate for peace, you are immediately considered a supporter of russia, although we we are not on the side of the russians, we are on the side of peace because we do not want more people to die and , unfortunately, under the current conditions, to conduct a rational dialogue about the settlement of this situation, i will not just say that it is hopeless, because there is always hope, but this hope is small, oleksandr i understand that in hungarians think first of all about hungary and hungarians, as we have already discussed with you in china, they think about the chinese and china well , to be honest, lately i have

been getting mad with what regularity and frequency such things are starting to sound from hungary from budapest statements what do you think the reason could be? well, it is clear that this is, first of all, about hungary, there are complaints about how it relates to the supremacy of the right to democracy on the part of the europeans, and this has nothing to do with ukraine at all, that is, it is a question of the orban government and there are all these mosquitoes around him, the second point is what they openly say about in certain publications, let's say so, i mean , for example, the same american conservative, and recently on urban duff, they conducted a rather extensive interview there, comparing ukraine and afghanistan, and so on, and it is definitely a worldview that is at odds with the rest of the countries of the european union and the united states regarding the essence of this

conflict and how it can be stopped. and to be honest, i was boiling when pansierta said, speaking, hmm, during the un general assembly, these are the last ones. and he said that we are not just neighbors who sheltered a million ukrainians, uh, hungarians are now dying in this war, uh, well, to be honest, this is such a statement was very strange . yes , i understand that there are ethnic ukrainians of hungarian origin who die at the front. not about the number as such, but the principle in general, that is, they consider ukrainians of hungarian origin to be a part of themselves in the political dimension, which in fact is

interference in the internal affairs of ukraine, and of course, it is an absolute shame compared to that, you know that in our social networks, mediar is one of the most popular, let's say, the ukrainian military, which destroys these worms, the interveners, who are not often called, and that's why for me, to be honest, it is absolutely insulting to put and include all hungarians in ukraine as if they are a part of this political course that urban professes, which means the ego of the minions, therefore, of course, this brazen year was definitely not left out of consideration understood it as such, the phantom has no pain in relation to the empire and certainly that they would like to see a certain victory of russia

in order to return the original hungarian territories as part of hungary, but thank god that it is weak in the military in other respects and later that in the european union and in nato, well, there are forces that can cool down these hungarian hot heads, it is definitely bad that they say such things , but on the other hand, uh, they vote as needed by the european union there or this bloc in free countries, for example. the same hungary during the voting of the last resolution about uh, we are fair, peaceful, peaceful settlement of uh, our conflict with the russian federation, hungary voted for it, she did not abstain. that is, it is positive, there are negative things, for example, the fact that thanks again, the same patriarch gundyaev is in quotation marks for hungary once again did not get into the blacklists of the european union, there is no

atomic company that seized the illegal well , actually uses our zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant as a threat not only to ukraine, but to the whole world, i’m already saying about other, less important names that the hungarians constantly remove from these black lists and try to block the packages and packages of sanctions introduced by the european union, that is, on the one hand, in general, they obey the collective will and do not break this consensus but on the other hand, it doesn't hurt to go and do something that is unprofitable in the free world, they , well, they don't miss such an opportunity. well , it's a pity, oleksandr, but please tell me , lately, more and more often from europe, and i don't i'm talking only about hungary, and from other countries i can also hear, uh, hmm, talk about the fact that european countries and the inhabitants of europe need

to prepare for a protracted russian war in ukraine, and therefore calls are increasingly being heard to actively seek peaceful ways, as they sometimes say, to settle this crisis. please tell me whether this can become a european trend. i think not. so far, there is a lot of support for ukraine, and even there it seems that the last barometer of the european barometer showed 60 or so percent of support for it, actually due to european funds, that is, to finance the purchase of weapons for ukraine, and only a third was categorically against this, that is, in principle, the majority of europeans understand that this war is not only russian-ukrainian, it is against the civilized world. of course, we have our closest neighbors and friends and

partners baltic states poland and romania, who say that they will be next if ukraine loses and in fact, therefore, we must give everything necessary for our joint victory, this is with the countries of free education, but on the other hand it is clear that well, especially in the last few days, we have seen pro-russian marches in germany and in other countries , well, to be more precise, they use lazimir gas, but in fact they go there with tercalor flags or even imperial flags and of course what is such useful idiots who believe that it is not possible to give weapons because it is throwing an idea in the bag . and it is better to stop the supply. and in some strange way this political solution will be found. i understand that for us it is absolutely offensive. and we tried

to politically regulate our relations with the russian federation since the 14th year and it is clear that from the very beginning there was no such desire to do it somehow differently through the mediation of the eu there or anyone else it is impossible for russia to have ukraine either destroyed or part of it of the russian peace and here, if such formulations are such interests and you do not think that they have sufficient resources for this, then of course there is nothing for us to talk about with them, therefore our task is to do our part with the armed forces, to destroy the worms of the interveners, to support the armed forces forces and try to influence public opinion in european countries, first of all, but unfortunately, we have to work with the united states. so far, there is a convincing consensus among democrats, republicans, but there are loud voices calling for an end to aid to ukraine. oleksandr just one minute for the last question, very i want you to answer. you have already talked about the un resolution regarding ukraine condemning the russian war

. 141 countries behind all the countries are against it . such a group has gathered. please tell me if this is the next words on paper whether or not it is important for us, but briefly, well, the resolution is that we cannot win the war, definitely . these countries definitely look at this war as something distant. but very often and how , that is, through the russian one. that is why this resolution is important in order to show the dynamics of support for ukraine, we will refer to it and then when we will formalize our victory somehow legally, and of course this is a very good argument in the discussion, so the world is on our side, most of the countries of the world are on our side and not on the side of the aggressor, thank you, and it is also very noticeable that a-ah nauru who always

voted on the side of, well, in favor of russia in this vote, i will say that it is such a small island state in the pacific ocean , and in this vote, it supported exactly this resolution for ukraine. apparently, russia did not add any money. oleksandr thank you very much for participating in today's program. thank you. for your professional answers, as always, this is oleksandr hara, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies. thank you. well, i have to finish this program slowly, because time is running out. all i have to do is summarize the results of the voting that is being conducted on youtube. everyone watch us on a special channel created specifically on youtube could have the opportunity to answer the question can china help end the russian war in ukraine as usual every week three questions yes no your option yes here is your option five

percentage of this, i will start with the last one, what people wrote will be seen after the program airs. well , 35% think so, and 61% think no, and i honestly admit that i voted the same way, i answered no because i i don't think that china, even though it has a very strong influence on russia, that it will be able to have such an influence and help end the war because china thinks as oleksandr hara said. correctly, china thinks about itself about china . during the war next week we meet during the war next week we