tv [untitled] February 27, 2023 1:00pm-1:30pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] we will create it on youtube , i could have the opportunity to answer the question can china help end the russian war in ukraine , as usual, three questions every week yes no your option yes here is your option five percent of this i will start with the last uh what people wrote it will be possible to see after the program airs well, 35% think so, and 61% think no, and i honestly admit that i voted the same way, i answered no because i don't think that china, even though it has a very strong influence on russia that he can such influence and help end the war because china thinks as he said correct alexander hara china thinks about itself about china well and for today that's all in the sweet program during vii well next week we meet during the war next week we
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meet as usual about on the 12th and 13th of next monday, there will be other guests, there will be other topics, and it will be interesting as always . well, don't switch now, because our broadcast continues and is picked up by my colleague serhiy rudenko with the verdict program serhiy i congratulate you on the word i congratulate yura literally in a few seconds in verdict glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today february 27, 369 days of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers at night the russians attacked ukraine with attack drones of chess 11 drones nine of them were shot down over kyiv in khmelnytskyi attacks of three drones damaged a residential building , one person died, four were injured in zaporizhzhia, two hits on
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a civilian infrastructure object are reported against this background forbes magazine estimated that a year of war cost russia almost 115 billion dollars, and this is without future reparations . meanwhile, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine . as of the morning of february 27, russia has already lost 148,697 troops in ukraine in the last day alone. ukraine has destroyed 560 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 3,385 tanks, 6,621 armored fighting vehicles , 2,380 portolery systems, 475 rocket salvo systems, 247 air defense systems, 300 aircraft, 288
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helicopters, 5,248 units of automotive equipment, 18 ships, boats, 873 cruise missiles, 2,048 drones, 230 units of special equipment, however, how putin predicts the collapse of russia, lukashenko is flying in china, and the partisans in belarus attacked the airfield in belarus, we will talk about all this in the next hour for the life of valery chaly politician-diplomat extraordinary plenipotentiary for ukraine in the united states of america in 2015-2019 p valery good day and good health to you thank you for joining our broadcast i congratulate you glory to ukraine heroes glory, let's start the results of this great foreign policy week, which is passing by chinese peace initiatives, because in principle, the united states of america and the russian federation made it clear that they will remain in their positions
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, biden said during his visits to europe and kyiv about the fact that russia will definitely be defeated , putin said during the federal assembly that they will fight to the end and that if something happens to russia, it will definitely happen to the world at the same time china on the anniversary day of russia, the so-called peace plan has now been published, and this published document consists of 12 points , one of which, approximately or rather, all these points can be combined in one sentence that both sides should stop the fire and the world should remove, not apply unilateral sanctions, and the world should rule
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peace, that is, isn’t the emphasis clearly placed on who is the aggressor and who is the victim, and the two sides have to end uh, um, this is this war, or as they say, the conflict according to you is such a position of china and such a peace plan for whom and what it is designed for i wanted would to react to what you said about russia , i will say a thesis that has a greater right to exist that if russia collapses, education will not get worse because of this 100%. because such situations already existed when the aggressive countries of the empire collapsed and nothing bad happened after that, after a while, of course , the issue of the growing influence of the other pole of power had to be resolved, but at the time of the collapse of the aggressor of the empire and those who started the war, it would even be beneficial of the world and not the other way around , now do they understand it all over the world
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, including china, but they have their own interests and there is a vision of how to win in such rapidly changing geopolitical, geopolitical, and new geopolitical circumstances. china has always relied on its ancient philosophy , well, now it is such a strange combination of the communist ideas of confucianism and simply uh, its own ideas developed in the very history of china, and they often go there next to it is strength and yielding, there is honesty and lies, that is, the chinese line is always very specific . well, their proposals or positions are also presented in the same style. rather, who is the opponent of aggression
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, that is, neither russia nor ukraine is named, that is, not there is no correct understanding of the role of these or other mechanisms of the world, well, that is, you can see that all this was through the prism of the competition of china, the united states, or such a chinese. but all the same, this is neutralism - neutrality to the letter on the side of the russians, well, in itself, it is 12 points of the position, as you know . buffet, you can take out a dish for you, in principle , it is edible and interesting, for example, hmm, one cannot help but support the position in china against the use of nuclear weapons or the threat of nuclear weapons, and the second is the use
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of the peaceful atom, nuclear power plants, and everything else around this pollution of the territory as components of war, this is a very strong position, she expressed it. well, all other positions are either neutral for everything good against everything bad, for example for sovereignty and territorial integrity, but at the same time well, simply, it looks very strange when the territorial integrity of ukraine is destroyed and it is not really noticed, so it is unlikely that this is the position that will be the basis of real steps to the full extent of china and i think that it is necessary to look at the actions of china and not at the statement, even such statements from a high platform there are political, in any case, well , there are different assessments, but everyone
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in the world evaluates them fairly that this is not the platform on which the situation can be resolved, but china understands that the matter is coming to a climax, and china 's role probably does not suit them. they don't want you know that without them it is that's why the americans say to them, sorry, and you're here, and if you seem to be neutral with such an approach, well, you understand. he lost every opportunity to talk about some mediating functions, for example, he became interesting, and several
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times . yes, unfortunately, the earthquake in turkey killed many people. this is the moment for china to say something more about this, it is not an accidental arrival in this context, this is a separate topic, but still the minister of foreign affairs of saudi arabia in kyiv and these countries began to look at the situation somewhat differently, although the help of saudi arabia thank you provided earlier, but now it is already clear the position in the future. that is, we see that china did not offer a peace plan. it offered, er, it showed that it is and that it wants to participate in the post-war reconstruction
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of the world of china in terms of political settlement to the crisis in ukraine today there is a reaction of belarus there is a reaction of kazakhstan until today russia's position was not articulated, but piskov said today that russia supports the so-called chinese peace plan, but at the moment the kremlin does not see the prerequisites for its implementation, putin's press secretary said in an interview the russian media will hear what piskov said, they certainly liked the attempts to develop plans that will escape to kiev before the conflict in peaceful russian, they attract attention with such great attention, we treat their plan of ours we don't see the real moments of chinese friends , we don't want to make predictions . to get this story out of the russian world, until
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the special war. and russia so waited a little bit from the reaction with the publication of this reaction, doesn't this show that belarus and kazakhstan are now clearly focused on china, so that they are more focused on china, kazakhstan and previously, he was focused on china and belarus. well, belarus in this case, and lukashenko's planned visit to china indicates that lukashenko is also looking for a plan to get out of this co-authorship of the russian-ukrainian war. well, you know , everything is clear from belarus with lukashenko. is trying to show further and i will say as much that he has been successful lately uh, that is very strange, of course, but for us it makes no difference if he doesn't speak there from his territory
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, blows are made and actually 24 have crossed from his territory, this is uh, well, the key moment there is support for weapons training, but if with your territory and you allowed that all of yours simply violated the borders and you promised well, he is a downed pilot and now he just has to think that their lavas with putin at the tribunal, which sooner or later will take place, they were at least not at to one row, what chance does he have, or can he stand in the same row even with kazakhstan ? this position of china
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gaining more is playing into russia's hand, but purely if you take only this document, well, at least there, the russians immediately seized on it, because i want to translate for you this good man of the kremlin whom i quoted , who said three days before the war piskov what you think that russia does not need a war, there will be no attack in any case. well, what can i believe in him? i don’t know how to comment at all if they are liars and well, they are not just priceless people, but vile and treacherous, so there is no comment. approximately what we now at the peak
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, we already understand that we will not be able to continue. ukraine is gaining more and more opportunities on the battlefield, on the fronts, weapons are arriving. what we stole and if they start taking away from us and what will happen next and here they said about crimea that the americans already said that russian military facilities on the territory of crimea are legitimate targets and here they are hitting the bases already near mariupol at a distance of much more than 80 km and they have they started such a frenzy, so try to attract everything you can to stop them, fix their enthusiasm. well, and secondly, if it doesn’t work, then together we will screw up china, too, and together say, look , we offered some kind of peace there. here are all obvious things and one should not listen to direct quotes but read them as they should be read
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by cynics and liars, but the position is there, it is between the lines, one director at william benson gave a long interview with the news and in particular he spoke there well and about ukraine about russia, but also he said about china, he said literally the following, i think there is no foreign leader who would follow vladimir putin's affairs in ukraine and the course of the war more closely than all of dengpin, i think he was worried, a lot of what he saw sobered up , i think he was shocked by the very bad state of the military russians, i think he is also surprised by the level of solidarity of the west in supporting ukraine , in other words, the readiness of not only the united states of america and other european allies to bear certain economic costs in order to inflict more economic damage to russia he said all this, in my opinion, burns to some extent sobered up all the ding-ping, we know that the visit of the leader of china is planned for the spring, well, at least
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the russians would like to see all the jinping in moscow instead of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi during a press conference timed for the year of russia's large-scale invasion of ukraine said that he also has a plan to meet with the chinese leader, let's hear what zelensky said, first of all, i plan to meet with all zimpin and believe that it will benefit our states and security in the world with china, large goods are circulated, the issue is not only war. the question is that we are a state that is interested in preserving economic relations, and as far as i know, china respects territorial integrity, historical respects territorial integrity, which means
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it must do everything to get the russian federation out of our territory. because in this and there is respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of mr. valery, are there any such possibilities or do we have enough such possibilities to convince china to influence the russian federation and withdraw from ukrainian territory of the state, the statement of the president , volodymyr zelenskyi , it was correct, these words are correct . it was on may 9 , so no matter what it was, of course, a visit to kyiv or a meeting in
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kyiv, it would be a more balanced position , he would show you how the secretary of the party's foreign policy central committee met with the minister of law of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, and then he went to moscow, but the same story. will this give us anything? i don’t think at all , i think we need to be very careful about the fact that china can generally be considered some kind of uh, well, in the future, a mediator of these talks or a mediator here very you have to be careful, because if china wanted to play such a role, it would have done it before february 24 , when putin personally went to pay his respects and when the chinese, judging by everything, cannot claim, but many assess the situation in this way, they said that during
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the olympics it is not possible to stir up the situation in in the world, the chinese perfectly understood what it was all about. they did nothing to stop whether such a country can be an intermediary in conditions when even now about their support and indeed the importance of our relations with china, no one turns a blind eye to this. yes, and trade and all those things that are in the next world, but our basic value positions diverge so much now that i , of course, am undermined by the optimism of the president alone and zelenskyi but i think that this story will be very complicated and in general, i would think that uh well this approach
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is like this, i will look him in the eye and he will solve everything in one fell swoop with china . it will not work for sure. contacts and you can then go to a certain level because you can talk about trade but we understand perfectly well i insist on this the country cannot be put on a stretcher again the usa china will tear our pants it won't be like that until we we are talking about china, oleksandr lukashenko is going to beijing or is going to go, the institute for the study of war of the united states of america says that he is in china lukashenko is flying in order to agree on the supply of weapons to russia and in violation of the sanctions to hide the violation of sanctions by china during the supply of heavy weapons to russia, in general
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, lethal weapons. we remember how, 10 days ago , anthony blinken spoke about the fact that there is information from the american intelligence services about china's intention to supply russia with lethal weapons. if this happens and if the world community witnesses the fact that china began to help the russian federation with lethal weapons, what does this mean for the world and what does it mean for ukraine ? for the aggressor and i emphasize this basic difference. that is, you can help the victim, you can help according to the un charter to a country that has suffered aggression, but help the aggressor, as
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this wound is doing, as belarus is also doing it take part in the aggression and china on this side, well, i hope it won’t happen, because it’s not even only there that lethal weapons are being sent. as they say , it ’s generally conditional. will have a very serious impact on the situation and will really drag the war on. well, i understand their struggle with the united states, such a strategic global one. but it seems to me that they are making a serious mistake now, because it turned out that there is indeed an element of rivalry, but there are fundamental violations basic things that china, as
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one of the most influential countries in the world, must follow, otherwise its role is then reduced to a completely different format, and it seems to me that here they still need to go beyond the purely logic of rivalry or confrontation between the united states and think about how in other ways to achieve the same goals as china, in principle, knows how to do. well, in general, it looks strange, of course , because, well, it is, uh, we know that the threat was considered by russia from the side of china, it is actually a territorial threat there in the future in the east, russia has actually exposed all its targets and china is doing a huge favor to russia, which makes it possible to concentrate all possible forces for an attack on ukraine, so i emphasize once again that you can talk about
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anything, but if china is going to serious to strengthen russia, this is at least the result of the attitude of prolonging the war for many years and this is unacceptable cement, as i said, tomorrow lukashenko should start issuing visas to china, and today the self-proclaimed president of the republic of belarus said that despite the sanctions, the republic and belarus together with russia, it produces various types of weapons and sells them to 57 countries of the world, according to lukashenko, belarus produces so many weapons that it can already afford these exports, he also added that the republic and belarus are successfully developing modern types of weapons, well , obviously not with the russian federation, at the same time , lukashenko said that putin received insults from ukraine back in 2014, what the self-proclaimed president of belarus said, let's hear
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and in order to assess the causes of this conflict , a certain time must pass the time will come soon . one country, not america , would not allow them to make fun of their compatriots, especially if they insulted the president of russia himself from the side of ukraine and, er, all of the russian leadership, there is a whole mess of what lukashenko said. i understand that putin
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he was very offended by the shout-out putin la-la-la, judging by the fact that he says that he is a personal insult, but still, in the current situation, lukashenko is trying to act as putin's lawyer and talk about why, why, or explain why putin attacked ukraine , what is the truth? he does not answer the question why did belarus help putin to attack ukraine, although we remember how a year ago, a few days before the attack, oleksiy reznikov, the minister of defense of ukraine, called his to my belarusian colleague viktor khrenin and asked him about the situation in the republic of belarus, he swore to god that nothing would happen, no one would enter ukraine from the territory of the republic of belarus , so if you sum it up like that, because we
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have been summing up over the last few years days of the year of the great russian invasion of ukraine, we pay a lot of attention to the russians and putin. lukashenka, taking into account the fact that he brags that 57 countries buy weapons from us, well, that is, the question is quite simple, and who allows him and why why does he succeed, well , in terms of weapons , the situation is basically as follows. by the states of sanctions imposed by other countries. that's why he will change about the fact that he took the number what they had a-a uh-uh what
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is being traded there now what was before these are different things then uh-uh listen i have belarusian at home unfortunately, our elevator was stolen probably there are belgian ones and as a result they installed belarusian ones, so it works, but it’s such a story, it’s like everything old that hasn’t been modernized, that hasn’t been invested in. it’s constantly necessary to repair it. it’s constantly necessary to do it. even if you find belarus there as a big exporter, well, that's all the style of this good day , earlier he was talking about the fact that kyiv is in three days and what ukraine is there to take, i don't want to - you
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know, i'm tired of commenting on them, that's it for example, to comment because this explanation affects the chinese, it is he who is making a huge difference. to continue the war, he understands everything perfectly, that's why we have to work on this information line, and from china, by the way, it needs to be strengthened because, as it is not surprising for many, this story is unknown, i will remind you all the same of this thesis that the conflicts did not, uh, they did not arise in russia, that is, all of them did not come, russia killed the children of women, but they arose somewhere else. well, i would like him to look sooner or later into the eyes of those mothers or children died on this unjust and
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