[000:00:00;00] it is a powerful international law. turn on the radio, tell me . when victory is coming or not. it is coming. it is coming. i am listening. i am listening. there is no place for victory. there are 23,000 , make them even more so that they don't travel anymore, everything will be ukraine, well, they will say one day, you will sing a song, sing girls

, when there is a lot of prayer on the baptismal territory , then my prayer is not too late, let's unite, dear family may our holy ukraine, or you, who is the highest, my dear, give birth to may our holy ukraine bloom like a viburnum, my parents have a good land

. i kiss you in the morning, then there will be a necklace from her , let us unite. dear mother, may our holy ukraine bloom, what a short viburnum, but something good it's healthy, there are pillows. i'm against putin very much. stalin was tormenting us, and then what are you doing? i'll see how he is in mariupol . i threw my 40-year-old beauty, russia, all

the lands, and they're taking a pit here for a week. i didn't have everything that 2 m will be who thought so what it was well, what is it for us, what kind of russians are you? they all our ukrainians redo this redo oh lord , what are you doing ?

oh, he was hot well, what did she say, as she said, if putin himself is alive, someone is shooting a gun at my dog, have a good time, this is the time for each of us, protect our own smile, look, acquaintance, the first flowers and stupid jokes in my head, i scroll again these minutes, hours and days we haven't met each other for a long time, we learned to read thoughts, how i want to just hug these minutes, hours and days, i already want to just say i love the whole universe , this is you, my son, my daughter, mother, hug me, i love and

that's why we went to war, the history of legends, this is a masterpiece, because everything is unique from birth for 500 minutes, like on at the funeral of a close friend, a coward who captured hearts all over the world, here's another 8 m, this is the span of the wings on mp3, even the poems were dedicated and which will definitely be rebuilt, will rise from the ashes, what does she do, it should happen

, the documentary project wings of dreams lyudmila gavrilyuk on march 1 at 9:30 p.m., the marathon continues, the only news is that the victory of general petr pavel in the presidential elections in the czech republic was perceived as the appearance of another great friend of ukraine pavel held the highest military position in nato, was the head of the military committee of the alliance from the beginning of the full-scale invasion, he advocated systematic armed support of ukraine and also initiated the collection of funds to help the ukrainian military . pavel plans one of his first foreign visits specifically to kyiv after the inauguration in march. about his expectations from this the trip of ukraine's place in nato, as well as about the year of full-scale war and the future of russia on our air, then the results of the presidential elections in the czech republic were perceived by many as a victory for ukraine, but why is this so

, as well as about the year of full-scale war, armed and diplomatic support of ukraine and post-war cooperation of kyiv and prague, we are talking with the newly elected president of the czech republic, general petr pavel black , of the presentation thank you for being with us today and thank you for the invitation. thank you for accepting him and coming to prague. i am very happy for the opportunity to communicate with ukrainians because i really admire the courage and devotion that you show in the war - we are meeting just in time for the anniversary of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine and we understand that for almost all ukrainians this is the time to make certain conclusions and reflexes regarding this year of struggle, do you see that significant irreversible changes against the background of this war are felt in the czech republic and in europe in general , which concern, for example, security and economic issues. earlier than before the war, we all realize

that the feeling of security and development does not come for nothing. there are risks of scaling the conflict in europe. we have long since come to terms with the idea that russia is not a friendly country to us. we understood that the senate alliance and the eu are very important for our future. we have learned value partnerships and show solidarity towards those in need. i think there are many, many lessons that we have learned during this time . for you personally, it was also a year of significant changes. how do you feel about the status of the newly elected president? i am completely used to the idea that i am now the president of the country, for sure i managed to feel little joy from the victory, much more the sense of responsibility and burden that such a position implies, especially when we live in such an unstable security environment in which we find ourselves now, a few questions about your election campaign, which was behind it is interesting to follow in social networks to notice that you did not focus exclusively on your military career, by which i think many people know you

very well, because you were a high-ranking official in nato and you also recorded a video where meet people, show off your hobbies, such as a motorcycle, did we think that czech voters could be scared off by a purely military image, or were there other reasons for this ? first of all, i wanted to show the real petr pavl not only a strict military person, but an ordinary man with his joys or fears, doubts, his hobbies and the family are wondering here how he was guided by the desire to simply show a realistic picture and not some kind of artificiality, and that is why we tried to portray peter pavlo as a person who has something to offer the country and at the same time as an ordinary person one of us, and if we talk about the war in ukraine in general, did it somehow highlight your military experience and encourage people to choose you favorite, i think it is impossible to separate your field of expertise from your professional

activity whoever enters politics, he brings his field of expertise with him, i am a defense specialist security issues and international relations in this is my life, so i will bring this experience to work on my new position, at the same time i understand that some people are afraid and this fear is based on unverified joke information maybe someone thinks that a former military man can guarantee more security because he has experience or at the same time she has negative emotions about it, because there are people who can think that a person who has been in uniform all his life can drag the country into war , this has become part of the final stage of our company this and this was one of andrii babish's arguments. of course, this is an abuse of the fears that exist in the population and my role was to reject all these fears and clearly say that being a former

military i know from my own experience what war is and this is the last thing i would like to see happen in my country, and given this experience i will do everything to prevent war. how important was the topic of russia's war against ukraine to the voters? because when you look at the situation from the outside, it seems that it is desirable that this truth really weighed people who have been living in peace for decades tend to believe that it is gone demonstrated that war and the risk of war are much closer than we could think. so you can see now in public opinion polls that more than 50% of our population clearly perceives russia as a threat not as a potential but as a real one and this is the first time that our population feels the same way about russia the same

also applies to our unions, now more and more people are convinced that membership in nato actually makes us much safer . the same applies to the eu, and therefore i fully understand ukraine's desire to become part of these unions , because they really make any country more protected on the eve of the anniversary of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, we heard a lot of confessions from western leaders that they were really surprised that the struggle of ukrainians continued for so long while there were predictions that kyiv was holding on just a few days, it was also a surprise for you, do you remember this feeling to a certain extent so that the first among the main scenarios i did not at all consider the option that russia starts aggression because many of us analyzed the situation from the point of view of national interests and our argument was that the president putin will not make a decision that would be the worst for his own country by all parameters, but his assessment turned out to be different, firstly, he probably calculated that ukraine

lacked the strength and determination to fight against russia, probably they believed that the ukrainian army was too weak to oppose the powerful russian army they also did not think that the west would be so united in its response to this aggression, they thought that the russian army was probably the best in the world and the best equipped in the world, so the result of such aggression was very incomprehensible to almost everyone , i have to say that the ukrainian military resistance of the ukrainian population and the level of leadership of president zelensky were absolutely impressive. i believe that he personally and the ukrainian people have actually earned great respect in this world and your struggle has inspired many, because it once again showed us the need to sacrifice i believe something and it changed the perception of the european countries in particular in my windows present biden at the beginning of the week president

biden visited kyiv and in his speech stressed that this war may be long, of course i have many optimistic scenarios for the end of the war, but if it drags on , do you see that the czech republic and other western allies of ukraine will be ready to support ukraine as long as it takes munich security conference, we think everyone should hope for the best, but it's even better to be prepared for our scenarios, and as a former military man, i always want to be prepared for a variety of options, this does not mean that we should give higher priority to this worst option we should rather strive for the best and you accepting other options we should accept that the war may not end this year it may turn into some kind of frozen conflict it may turn into some other kind of conflict at different levels and we have to be ready before that therefore, it is now important to provide ukraine with everything necessary , especially military equipment, as well as

financial assistance to continue the protection of the country and, in principle, to turn it into victory but we must also be ready to support ukraine in the long term and at the same time be able to explain this to our population because it is extremely important for further support in one of your first interviews from the president you mentioned that there should be practically no restrictions for ukraine regarding the supply of weapons, if they meet the needs of the ukrainians of the ukrainian army. but at the same time , the day before, scholz, who is among germany , said that ukraine will receive from germany and the leopard-2 prime minister, which means that the czech republic will not provide tanks of this model to ukraine, good luck with this decision and are there any chances that the position or six will change , first of all, the fact is that we do not have a single leopard-2 tank at the moment. we have maybe one now, but the delivery of 14 is expected in the coming months . we cannot promise what we do not have , and of course there may be an idea of ​​passing on

these tanks that we receive from germany to replace the presidential model, but of course this is still a matter for discussion, we think we will discuss it with our allies first of all, with poland in germany, i don't know the details now, but i must say that the leopards are currently absent in the czech republic , so we can't manage what we don't have time on the red line regarding the supply of weapons in ukraine, it was western-style tanks now that a new stage has been overcome - these are western f16 fighters, the prime minister of the netherlands coolly thinks that speeding up the decision-making process in this case will help the creation of a coalition , as was the case with tanks, given your military experience, what do you think about this method decision-making, is it necessary? if i turned to my military experience and looked at this issue from the position of the commander of operations, i would certainly act in several stages

. first, i would ask for such weapons as i need. range and especially air defense because everything else these are the next stages and the planes are already here because they need a lot of support on the ground for them they need long training and it takes a lot of time so such a project needs a good training, which is probably not so much in the hands of a single ukraine, let's say the united states, instead, all other countries should unite to create a group of countries that would be able to provide such a potential in sufficient quantity for a country the size of ukraine, it is so simple that it is no longer about planes. and about bigger numbers, and this requires the cooperation of a larger number of countries, but all this needs to be well prepared. and it takes time, and of course, the time is critical for ukraine, so i would really urge urgent delivery

weapons that can be used today, tomorrow, and to start preparing the provision of weapons for the next stages of the next months or years, for this year full-scale wars can be traced, the situation has changed, and at first it was very noticeable that the western partners, on the one hand, wanted to help ukraine, and on the other hand, to avoid being involved in the war at the same time we understand that this was one of these red lines that russia tried to impose before the invasion. do you notice that these red lines have gradually moved away enough far and does this mean that russia is weaker and weaker than slabshaev and eiffel, according to the logic of the kyivans? i consider it quite natural that they raised the bar quite high, trying to discourage potential supporters of ukraine from any support, but then they had to admit that all the support we have so far provided to ukraine was absolutely legal within the limits of all norms of international law, and what about us, i mean the nato event, yes, we all should probably have been more active in

providing such support that meets the norms international law earlier in some countries there were certain hesitations clearly motivated by the fear of escalation of the conflict, but it is quite clear that russia all the time threatened escalation in their doctrine there is a principle of escalation for escalation and therefore one could expect that russia would inflame the situation with threats to use nuclear weapons and to respond with military threats means for any armed support to those countries that provided such support to ukraine, this means a direct threat to the baltics, for poland and other countries, i think nato needs a more decisive approach and pointing out that we do not violate any line of international law, but we want to preserve our right to do what is provided for, say, the un charter, that is, to provide aid, aid in the case of aggression, it is completely legal and we probably should have done it sooner , but it is useless now to return to

what could be done, we must live in reality , let's talk about the future for ukraine, one of the most important strategic issues is joining nato in the future, you know, you support this path, but you noted that it will become possible only after the end of the war, we understand that this is a realistic scenario. but are certain exceptions possible for ukraine in this regard, how can ukraine become even closer to cooperation with nato, which can make it easier to obtain membership in nato, when we consider the issue of accepting new members, there are several principles, first - these are common values, common long-term interests, technical compatibility and obviously political will from all sides. i believe that from the point of view of technical compatibility , ukraine has completed its homework, everything is done, and because technically your army especially after this year of war, it is ready to cooperate with all nato armies from the point of view of values ​​and long-term strategic interests, again we have full

compatibility. therefore, the only condition that remains is the absence of an ongoing conflict or territorial dispute. and of course, from the point of view of international law, as soon as ukraine becomes a member of nato while everything that in the conflict nato will become a party to this conflict and of course, one can only imagine how large-scale the conflict between nato and russia will be then, most likely even with the use of nuclear weapons, this it is simply impossible to estimate. so we really have to wait for the end of this war to restore the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine and then the question of nato membership will arise and at this stage i fully supported it because i believe that ukraine deserves to be considered as a new member of nato for compliance with all standards but how have you demonstrated the protection of those values ​​that are desirable for all of us? and he also thinks that the future ukrainian military after the war , probably the most experienced of all, would be

a great advantage for nato countries, so they are all practical reasons why we should consider ukraine's membership in nato immediately after the war, about the future of nato, who are you to ask about this, how the war in ukraine can affect the further development of the alliance, or should we expect that during this time, nato's resources will be depleted due to aid to ukraine, or vice versa will be able to mobilize efforts to increase the production of weapons, how do you see it ? you see, if you look at nato as a zone of stability , friendship and cooperation, then i think that such a zone would like to be expanded, it is not about promotion nato's borders are closer to russia. i tried to explain this to our russian colleagues when i served in brussels. nato does not pose any threat to russia and that you started in response to interception. well, of course, they have a different perception , but i don't really believe that nato has any plan to attack russia we have enough of our problems , we even have too many of them. instead, you

should solve your own problems. of course , they have an excellent perception. but i think that we should stick to our arguments for expanding the cooperation zone. threatens, and that is why i believe that the expansion of nato at the expense of ukraine actually increased security and stability in europe. and that is why we should take such a step when there are conditions for this for nato long before it was officially recorded in the documents of the alliance. what other threats can arise after the end war, it will depend on what state russia will be in. after this war , a variety of scenarios of the internal struggle for power in russia may arise after president putin leaves, and he will leave one day how events will develop, we can only guess, maybe it will be a new leader who will come after president putin, who will be more inclined to restore normal

dialogue and cooperation, or someone potentially even worse than president putin, so far it is difficult to guess. however, i believe that russia will be unstable for a long time , given the number of internal problems of structural problems of their economy and society, so we will have to live with this reality, and that is why it is so important for all of us who live in this area to be ready for close cooperation and to have a plan of how we should deal with various options in the context of what you noted at the munich security conference regarding the future of russia, you said that the complete destabilization and disintegration of russia is not the best scenario for western countries, because you will then have to deal with someone in russia dialogue, as you have already mentioned, there are many options . how can everything happen after the war, but what is a more or less good scenario for russia for the west? probably the best scenario would be a situation where russia realized that it can't win the war that they have no other way out but to negotiate because

now they are in such a bad economic situation that they need to restore at least some ties with the surrounding world not only with china but also with other european countries and the government that realized that dialogue is better than war, this would probably be the best possible scenario and then we could start talking about possible ways to improve our relations, but how realistic is it, we are definitely not in such a situation with the current leadership as we heard from the speech of president putin, he puts all the blame for the war in ukraine on the west, they do not see any mistake on their part, when i say they, i mean not only the leadership of russia, but also mainly the majority of the russian population, who are convinced that they are the last sanctuary of christianity values, they must protect them from the decadent west, this is a very strange setup for any relationship, so i think that there will probably be other options that will be more

realistic, and one of them is that in russia, there will be a similar new leadership, if not president putin, then someone of the same type, and then we will probably have a confrontation with russia for years to come, which you also expressed at the munich conference, raised certain questions, it was about the choice of ukraine in the format of victory in the war, and they emphasized that it has be the choice of ukrainians and no one can dictate or encourage ukraine to any unrealistic scenarios unrealistic expectations, which of the western partners in your opinion gives grounds to talk about incitement to unrealistic expectations, do you see that there are clear signs that this is happening, you know at the munich conference, most of the discussions in which i participated were, to my taste, nato optimistic and there was a certain ignoring of possible negative influences. i completely agree that you need to have good hopes , but much better to think about potentially worse results, and that is why i said we will do everything possible to support ukraine. for it

to win this war and for it to happen this year, it would be extremely useful not only for ukraine, but for all of us but let's also be prepared for other possible outcomes, one of them may be a longer war, as we discussed earlier, some other scenarios may be that ukraine, not only the people, but also the political leadership will realize that the potential benefits of obtaining the entire territory will cost too much for example, in the form of human lives, it can be like that, i am not saying that ukraine can be pushed to make concessions, such a decision can only be made by ukraine, not someone else, and no one from the outside should push ukraine to a certain result because it's not our people who are dying, it's not our cities that are being destroyed, it's much easier to tell you that you must adhere to the principles to the last drop of blood, it sounds good, but it's not my blood, it's your blood, that's why i say it's up to you, and on the other hand, we shouldn't

push ukraine for concessions while there is still a very real chance of winning this war and ousting russian troops from the territory of ukraine, so i say let's support ukraine by all available means but also let's be realistic and leave the decision for the ukrainians regarding the conditions under which they are ready to start negotiations, certain questions arose because it was thought that by unrealistic expectations you meant the peace plan of president zelenskyi and the clear position of ukraine regarding the liberation of all ukrainian territories from occupation, so it is possible that this statement was interpreted incorrectly that do you generally think about the peace plan proposed by president zelensky for the full restoration of the territorial integrity of ukraine, zelensky has no other choice can you imagine the country's leader which was subjected to aggression and who would say ok, let's come to terms with the loss of territory, under no circumstances can the leader of the country do something like that, so it is absolutely natural that president zelenskyy sets himself

the goal of liberating the entire territory, fully restoring the territorial integrity, full sovereignty of ukraine, this is normal, but then , of course, when it suddenly turns out that the reality is very different from what we would like. maybe there will be some corrections, but these corrections can only be made by the ukrainian people and your leader, and by them the deficit is poison points one of the problematic moments for the western partners may be the liberation of crimea. this stage of victory in the war may cause certain discussions , and western support will be problematic to some extent. at this stage, do you think it will really be some kind of controversial issue ? i have never witnessed a discussion that would consider such an option, i do not think that western countries are discussing an option that would involve, due to ukraine's intention to liberate crimea, a reduction in their support, just the opposite, all leaders

use the same arguments, which means they all support ukraine in liberating the entire territory during this year of full-scale war. the thesis about putin's war and his responsibility for it shifted towards the war. russia was also one of the first to eliminate the ban on issuing visas to russians who are trying to enter the eu. what do you personally think? the entire russian people are responsible for the war against ukraine. i have already noted that the vast majority of the russian population supports its president in his war against ukraine , we can see evidence of this every day enough just turn on russian television, where the presenters use pictures from different parts of the country and you can see that people from young to old all support the war, on the other hand, we should not measure all russians by the same yardstick, because after all, there are people who are clearly against the war, who claim that russia must stop this aggressive war, withdraw the troops and start negotiations, and it is probably worth giving these people the opportunity to speak not only to