[000:00:00;00] and territory during this year of a full-scale war, the thesis about putin's war and his responsibility for it shifted towards the war with russia, and one of the first to initiate the ban on issuing visas to russians arriving in the eu. do you personally think that the entire russian people are responsible for the war against ukraine e- e i have already noted that the vast majority of the population of russia supports its president in his war against ukraine, we can see evidence of this every day, it is enough to simply turn on russian television, where the presenters use images from various parts of the country and it can be seen that people from young to old all support the war, on the other hand, we should not measure all russians by the same yardstick, because there are still people who are clearly against the war, who claim that russia should stop this aggressive war, withdraw its troops and start negotiations and it is probably worth giving these people the opportunity to talk not only to

the russian audience, but first of all to our audience, because they can be the basis for future relations with the russians , because if we isolate them all, we will give them no chance for prospects in the future, because when we talk about the responsibility of the people for the war, it is always first of all about the responsibility of the russian leadership for the war, for example , recently kemala harius, the vice president of the usa , noted that she sees signs of crimes against humanity in ukraine and after the beast with russian side we constantly hear the debate about what post-war justice for putin and the russian leadership will look like, do you see any real scenario here? do you have a vision of what this process could look like from the point of view of what international law currently exists or what still needs to be created or whether it will be something like the new nuremberg tribunal , i think there is no doubt that the russian army, under the direct order of the russian leadership, committed many war crimes in ukraine, many of them are well documented and, of course, to the civilized

world it is necessary to create a war crimes tribunal for russia to reveal all the crimes and bring the guilty to justice. i am proud that the czech republic is one of those who initiates this process and i believe that we could also some of our experts to hold this tribunal, so we will support its creation, they talked a lot about how the war in ukraine changed the entire canvas of security and other priority issues for the eu, for example, energy dependence on russia, the czech republic was one of the first countries to completely renounce russian gas in january do you see this as a non-reversible change in the issue of energy independence for the eu and your country, this is probably the most visible consequence of russian aggression. for us, it was huge change of gas and oil suppliers this year we completely got rid of dependence on the energy carrier in russia from more than 90% to zero if we ever turn back to return to the situation that was before the war it will be very difficult

it may be someone in the future some negotiations on the supply of russian gas will start again but now i don't see any chance of returning to the pre-war situation , because we will create new ties , new agreements, and then it will be extremely difficult to change them again, although the present itself to mention one of the promises made several times after your election. you mentioned that one of the first foreign visits will be to ukraine, and i understand that due to security measures , they will tell all the details, but in general, is there already an understanding of when this visit can take place , it is clear that it is very important as a symbolic gesture of support and what are your personal expectations and who will you work with? and what will you see ? obviously, the idea of ​​joining the presidency of slovakia for a visit to ukraine was well received in both countries. of course , we cannot go into details, but the idea lives on. when i met with the head of the ukrainian parliament in munich, i told him that i was ready

to visit ukraine at an early stage of my presidency, but of course there is a war in ukraine now and life is quite busy in kyiv, so i left the opportunity for the ukrainian side to propose the date of the visit. i am now more flexible than the president zelenskyi looks at the priorities of cooperation that you would like to develop in a bagful of ways. we have several areas of cooperation that we can discuss as one of the most obvious and probably the most pressing issues. there will be a continuation of military aid, but we should probably look a little further at the situation after the war, then probably one of the biggest ones. at the beginning of our conversation, we mentioned how you used social networks and how your election campaign developed there, and i noticed that in ukraine you are also

very popular in it is especially interesting for social media because we in ukraine have a bright leader in such difficult times. so it shows something when people like foreign leaders who are active and positive towards ukraine, do you see such popularity in social networks and among the younger generation here in the czech republic it is worth saying that president zelensky is truly a source of inspiration and not only as the leader of a country that experienced a crisis and war, but he also inspired many in the use of social networks in this famous video with the president here is the prime minister - the minister is here, the leader of the faction is here, the head of the president's office is here, the prime minister is here, šlagal is here, podoliak is here, the president is here, and this will give a clearer idea that you can get a lot of support from your people and others of countries simply by being absent and very open social networks - this is exactly the platform for this, in fact it becomes clear that the role of social media is now extremely

important. i believe that in a few years we have had the opportunity to be much closer to our population by becoming more humanized in social networks and more humanity thank you of the president as we woke up at 5 in the morning a year of farewells a year of pain that changed our lives forever a year of how we fight in the dark with bright hearts we were given two days and we stood

together a year of recognition country of heroes country we inspire the brave, we fall in love, we fight, we believe in freedom , we believe in ourselves and ours to win. we are the only one, we do not know. glory to ukraine , glory to the heroes, the marathon continues, the only news. from khmelnytskyi yaroslava yurchuk, a medic, along with 18 women soldiers and volunteers , were exchanged in october 22. yaroslava told the public that

she was captured by the russians on april 12 from the ilyich factory mariupol, from where did they try to break out and get out of the blockade, as the lawyer mentions, mariupol and the capture of the occupiers further on in our material, the attack was so strong that they retreated, they could not stand there because, uh, and for the planes and for the helicopters that they dropped bombs, rockets we were not ready for such a thing , yaroslava yurchuk , a military nurse of the 36th marine brigade, recalls the first days of the full-scale russian invasion of mariupol. their positions and ended up at ilyich's plant there in march yaroslava, together with other medics, rescued the wounded. it was a basement , it was not a bunker, we lived in a basement.

with improvised means, they tried to make a fire of brick and made a fire in order to at least find some kind of kettle so that it would be possible to heat water and at least make it yaroslav says that after the enemy ring around the ilyich plant began to narrow saving people's lives in april 22 of the year makes a decision to make a breakthrough, a part of azovstal , a part where yaroslav was also, to the position of the ukrainian army in donetsk region . it seemed that the boys and the girls were just praying out loud, the breakthrough failed and yaroslava's crew was captured by the occupiers, the woman says from there she was taken around russian prisons during the entire captivity, the treatment of women was aggressive, she says, every time they checked us

in the morning and after lunch, that is, from our cells, they were taken out into the corridor. we stood up, turned our hands with our palms to them so that they could see that there was nothing on their hands, their feet were shoulder width apart, but by shoulder width, you understand shoulder width, and for them, shoulder width. stand i'm already writing i can't stand wide like that well you're not standing anymore you're just driving away and she left with that aggression you're going to blame me for something else my hair has already grown to my buttocks she wraps my hair around her hand and just bangs her head against the wall as well the occupiers forced to sing the national anthem of russia and soviet songs remembers yaroslav they gave us they told us that we don't celebrate victory day that we don't know what it is and i once said to someone i say how come we don't know what it is we also have veterans yaroslav was released from captivity during the women's exchange on october 17, 22 directly during the exchange, the woman saw

russian soldiers who were held captive by the ukrainians, they looked pretty good , pretty. they were packed with huge ones. well, they drove fully, let's say, collected. yaroslava is speaking now, she wants to wait out the captivity of all her brothers. meda herself, kenya, has already undergone rehabilitation . and she is returning to service. they are digging holes and recovering near the village of tauriyske in zaporizhzhia after the shelling. on february 24, the occupiers shelled how many houses were damaged and what

the local residents say further in the story here it went into the disk, it got into the box through the disk, also into the box, the centrifuge, the engine, the radiator, niva, were cut in half, four were cut in half, the harvester is shorter , the hole is much larger, andriy, a resident of the village of tauriyske, shows his agricultural machinery damaged as a result of russian shelling . the occupiers are attacking not for the first time, but they are getting closer to the barva house, one fell somewhere further away, and the second one fell here right away. my brother and his family were in the house just in time and immediately left after arriving. you were safe. one door to the house and two windows were broken by the niva machine, the tractor was broken by the combine harvester, andriy admits that he rarely goes to the shelter

, but a comrade offered to go down into the car pit during the shelling , he says that this one saved his life, i was in the garage for the second time. and the one when they climbed into the car pit. we sit, and i have a bus standing in the yard next to this one near the garage and we sit and sit in flights over the village.

well, of course, the feeling is not conveyed. where to go? they went to zaporizhzhia like that. well, they stayed, they didn’t shoot . well, i didn’t leave. my wife left . my brother and children left. and to get help from, you need to contact the village council, says the head of the tauriysk territorial community, mykola svirydenko, a representative of the village council is visiting us, the salt commission, eh, they look at the volumes and issue the material that we have on at the moment, we give people out if they are elderly or are not able to repair there themselves , we also have a team that goes out to help, well, we do not do minor repairs, we do not plan to do major repairs. our victory no one will go anywhere we will remind the occupiers struck seven blows on the village of tauriyske

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with a philosopher, a translator, a writer , vakhtangen kibeladze, vakhtangenche, hello, i want to start uh, so we will talk today a lot about uh, about war, about the vision of war, but i want to rest from your text, which was written before the start of a full-scale invasion, but already after the start of the war after 2014, in one of the texts you wrote that russia is a civilizational threat to the whole world , how did you see the influence of russia before the start of a full-scale invasion, and did you predict that russia could start a full-scale invasion on february 24, 2022 against ukraine well, first of all, i think that no one could predict the exact date uh, secondly, if um, i understand what you are talking about uh, i had such a metaphor born a long time ago

. russia is this shadow civilization, yes, because there are a lot of er considerations and manipulations, to a certain extent, speculations around the fact that russia is not europe, but it is some other civilization or it is anti-civilization. and then it occurred to me that russia is also some other civilization. is it anti-civilization? the shadow of the european civilization, what does this mean that it repeats all the contours, all the forms , but in a black way and inside, in the middle of the shadow of darkness, and it is a threat, it is a threat to all our civilizations, and it is ultimately a threat to the whole world, again, what should we call this war that's what they called it a full-scale invasion, but it's been almost a year, it's not an invasion anymore, because the invasion took place, uh, they were standing near kiev, they were rejected , kharkiv was liberated, kherson was liberated, now the fighting is again in the east, in the south, it can no longer be called an invasion

, yes, but it has not started 24 february, it started in the 14th year, in my opinion, too. no, it seems to me that in general, since the beginning of its creation, russia has constantly waged colonial wars of aggression in one way or another, this is its modus juvendi, these are ways of existence, and in principle, our war is russian-ukrainian. it has been going on for hundreds of years and 300 or so when we are going to count it. for example, i spoke recently during these events, er, with germans, er, musicians, artists, who are a little older than me and a clear person on our side , er, that is, yamna, er, he against russia, against putin's russia, for ukraine, for the values ​​of liberal democracy, but for some reason, we had our conversations on skype, uh , skype zoom, i haven't been indifferent for a long time, uh, and

suddenly, for some reason, we plunged into the history of the beginning of the 20th century, and he says so yes, i know, and he knows the history of eastern central europe he says i know you there was a civil war i say wait it wasn't a civil war it was our war against russia it was or a liberation struggle it was it was ukraine's war against russia and he looked at me so surprised what does this mean that a german who did not study in russia, who does not know the russian language, but he looks at our history through russian optics, imperial optics. although he is against this empire, so and so . our task is primarily intellectuals , writers, philosophers, historians, specialists of social sciences to deconstruct these narratives, yes. and if we are advised to deconstruct , and if we understand when it began, when will the truth begin, this war began, then first of all, we will be able to name what is happening now. and

when we correctly name certain events political, historical, correct, we describe them, then we, first , begin to understand what it really is, and we can give ourselves this advice , we can understand how to get out of this horror , because the question is when did this war start and what to call it, and why is it a threat not only to ukraine in the whole world leads us to the key question of how to win in this war and what our victory will mean for us, for ukraine and for the whole world and has a lot of theses that you can cling to in order to continue the conversation , but i will continue. yes, this is a post-colonial discourse - it is an attempt by ukrainians to describe themselves on their own. yes, but starting from the imperial heritage , denying the planting of the imperial heritage , so my question is based on my personal feelings

, and since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, i have not i can call the process that is taking place in ukraine culturally, even in terms of renaming streets and streets. post-generational, by the way, it was called the de-occupation of us from russian culture, but are we ready now intellectually or do we have the strength to talk about ourselves, pushing away from ourselves and not comparing it to the former empire is a multi-layered problem. well, first of all, in our society there is, in my opinion, a false and very dangerous illusion, they say, how will we enter world culture without russian if there is a lack of respect for this tradition, what is it, it is clear, we all understand the russian language, even well, i always say that this is a separate big conversation about the language, but foreigners often do not understand that all ukrainians, all citizens of ukraine are bilingual, well, that is, we understand both languages ​​in principle i can't, and i speak russian with a very heavy

accent and i don't write, but i understood. yes, you understand absolutely russian, you can read russian literature, and this language is not completely foreign to us, even to those who are not native speakers. from childhood russian is not a foreign language in this particular sense of the word, therefore it is clear that it is in our culture in our history in our history- generative is present and it is very dangerous because russian culture is toxic it is all from the beginning from there pushkin dostoyevsky and until the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century, it is permeated with narratives of hatred , xenophobia, supremacy, tyranny in relation to other nations , but the problem is deeper than i think. why because we cannot compare the situation of russia-ukraine with the situation of, say, france

algeria or britain, india, because we ourselves created our own enemy, the russian empire. we know it. ukrainians created it, not just ethnic ukrainians. concerts of the russian empire were often held in kyiv at the kyiv-mohyla academy. let's say the promotion of this russian orthodoxy that was stolen from kyiv also happened, then they returned to eastern europe through the kyiv-mohyla academy, not only the kyiv-mohyla academy, again , everything is clear from pushkin. for example, for me . well, here is the answer to everyone as oleksa malikh they call him a pushkinist but what is pushkin, in principle, today, for me, he has split into two poets, one - he is masterful, everything is masterful, he is a very poet, but this is such a salon poetry, well, without which i can, in principle, live , it is beautiful, it is a workshop, no one disputes that this is an elegant pose, but she doesn't speak to me and others. pushkin is a xenophobe, uh, it's against a fascist, to some extent, yes, this is a person who hates poles , ukrainians hate not even skeletons, and in principle

, this generative hatred is in his to his creativity in the body in poltava. let's say this to the ukrainians in the caucasian cyclinic in russia against the poles, whom they destroyed then just as they are destroying us today. therefore , i do not need this poet at all, yes, either he is a salon in front of the rainy i can live or he is an enemy and his creativity will soak hatred towards us, first of all, yes, but what to do with gogol, who also splits into two parts , yes, gogol who writes dykanky and myrhorod took place in the evening on the farm gogol who writes taras bulba and gogol writes eh dead souls revisor and let's say st. petersburg st. petersburg his cycle st. petersburg late gogol is russian literature obviously and all russian literature is like this is a saying that all russian literature came out of gogol's overcoat . by the way, it seems to me and he is doing

it today. but uh, early gogol is ukraine . when we read it, we understand that it is written in a very specific language. and it is not ukrainian, but it is not quite russian, but aesthetics a and this is very, very coherent literature when you read it in the evening well, i just don’t have evolution at such a hallucinatory level , auditory and visual are avoided i see it and this is ukraine, it’s not russia eh dmytro chyzhevsky eh attracts heads to essays on the philosophy of ukraine philosophy, not literature. i wouldn't agree with him, but what i want, i have to. but there is chizhevsky, an authority in our history of philosophy and literature, who says that the gogols are not only writers, and that ukrainian philosophers, and here i don't know how to work with all of this and such, that is, it is not total, but there are

russian culture in russian literature contains elements that are related to ukraine, and with them it will be very difficult for us to work with what is the russian imperial narrative, everything is easy here, there are no questions, it is foreign, hostile, it must be removed from our culture, but again , in what a way to clean up i'm talking about the fact that from now on russian russians no can never be the subject of anime on us neither their perverted religion nor their distorted political way of being nor their imitation of a society which in fact does not exist like this here can be a subject, but it must be an object because if we don't study it, that's why you don't understand, because what to do with it, as we also discussed it with our colleagues many times, let's say from vadim min joly there with the head of the department of

linear auto philosophy - the people of mohyla again and this is his opinion, i agree with him that what is our advantage one of our advantages over the russians is that we know them, we have studied them, we understand what is happening to them, we understand what kind of disease it is, and they do not understand who we are, they are not understand what they have encountered is not another a version of themselves as they think and so that they face the representatives of the free world that we are ukrainians today this is the main outpost of europe such values ​​are dignity er freedom human rights etc. yes therefore it is for us, we do not have this in the full sense of this words, but for us it all matters to them no and they don't understand it why because they don't study ukrainian literature ukrainian history they don't understand our our our religious situation yes and we understand all this and this is our advantage that's why i, for example, am in favor of creating institute of russia, but as an enemy, so that there would be politicians, economists, philosophers, literary experts and art critics , so that we study the enemy and we understand what

is happening there, easter, in other words, that russian culture is toxic and poisonous. and when you engage in it, you can get poisoned. i remember one of my texts already written after the beginning of the large-scale invasion, where you say that russia , a political nation, does not exist. so there is imperial russia, which captured many peoples, and recently the former president spoke at the un mongolia, e-e, fire shops, e-e, lbg, dorosh and he actually directly accuse putin of the fact that putin destroys representatives of e-e mongolian ethnic peoples on the territory of russia, this is the case, in particular, with buryats, tuvans, kalmyks , e, whom kremen simply sends as cannon