[000:00:00;00] it is difficult to deal with this because i once said when there was not yet a large number of subscribers and i was sure that well, you are engaged in public work . and what do you assess? it’s not true. people are not always ready for a large amount of disapproval, and it can be in very bad and bad forms. it can sting a little. we talked about it a little before the broadcast. comments can be m misfortunes very well, it's the same as when i come to buy coffee and say to the lady , well, your lipstick is terrible, this collar emphasizes the yellowness of your teeth. and in general, you talk like meowing, then i'll take a coffee and go. behave in personal contact because well, that's not normal, they won't be considered adequate

if i also write in the comment, it 's anonymous, we don't have eye-to-eye contact , and i can write in any bullshit. so, i read anything in i am learning to give with this style with this advice. i think that this will be a problem for the future generation , for whom already from the first years of life there is such a large number of views of social networks, because now it is not possible to take a million tick, then literally everyone can do these algorithms, algorithms are flying, they are spinning and everything, and some thirteen-year-old girl is reading about hundreds of thousands of favorable reviews and i think that this is a question that will soon arise not only before successful bloggers, but before all people very seriously. reactions to your work, it is important for a blogger, for a journalist, for people from a journalist, for a person who produces content, it is very important, and for whom i produce it for a recommendation, for whom i do it for people , for the community, yes, there may be people in the community

who do not know how to with respect to communicate, but well, this is also part of my work because between these comments on which i focus so much, there is a lot of important criticism that i listen to or there are a lot of warm words that are supported and inspiring and in general it is necessary understanding the connection with the subscribers is extremely important because if i lose this connection, then who am i making this product for, that's why i reread most of the comments. the audience or purely on their own in a feeling that is exclusively subjective. i think that here we are in sync with the audience and what i like most is the feedback when they say i didn't know this heroine, but i came to the interview because i trust you and discovered a fantastic a person or i don't like it

character and now that i have watched the video, i have given myself answers to many questions. i am grateful to the people who already come to me because they understand that it will be some important and interesting conversation and not on the character, because i focus exclusively on whether i am interested in talking to the person or not as we speak, the most discussed interview between farion and irina frion is on your channel, no one will watch it, and um, here the audience is divided, that is, who supported mrs. irina, her views, which are quite controversial at times, who supported as well, you revealed the character, and someone started talking about the fact that the author wants to hype, that's such a desire for hype, that is, a desire to increase the audience of her channel, where is this the second or third video and to catch up on these topics with contradictory views, uh, what would

you answered this request, it's very nice to hear when i was 17-18-19 years old and when i was in chernivtsi talking about women's rights about lgbt people when i filmed the process, stories on local television, when can you still find some subscriptions to the newspaper version uh, where am i worked and where i wrote articles about feminism, they told me, why are you some kind of teenage maximalism? no one is interested, you won’t hurt anyone with this, well, listen, stupid, do some cool topics, important topics, how to say it is important if someone told me, emma, ​​you will be 32 and when are you next you will continue to talk about these topics, they will tell you that you are hyping, that this is fashion, that this is a trend, i would say that this will be a trend, everyone will talk about it. i think that it is possible that people who do not know that these were my values ​​that i drowned for since adolescence

age is very active, you can google it, uh, it’s easy, then no one said that i was hyping well, because then it was to say i’m a feminist or i support lgbt - it was equal to people, it sounded synonymous, i’m a marginal person and it’s psychologically very difficult when you’re in a community , your community because of your views, he does not accept you and very often condescendingly makes fun of you, so when i say now that you are hyping, she is very happy that, uh, we in ukraine have reached the point when this topic is trending, let it be hyping and it is even better than being considered a rebel because no one does not pay any attention to this topic because i ordered in an interview with farion i will order now i wrote in my materials when i was 19 in public access these materials lgbt is not an abbreviation lgbt is a living people who can hear us now and that's why i i accept that there is such an opinion and

not very much, but it is precisely in such an opinion that you get upset when talking about your vision and this is, of course, a subjective aspect. how should a conversation with a person who broadcasts something that contradicts your values ​​look like because you have something more freedom than for example, on television, there is a journalist in the news, when you are a blogger and you have your own channel, you first call the people you are interested in and you have a conversation with them because it is interesting to you, how important it is to you, and so i have a question what do you use when you react in one way or another to theses that are spoken to you ? i specify something in the story in an interview with farion. even with a feeling of

piety, you explain to mrs. irina that well, yes it is not good to speak, after all, there is another opinion, so where is the limit for you to carry on a conversation even in such a tone? and where is it possible to strongly deny, of course, do not resort to accusations or humiliation, and in the end, have you not thought about this , the limit is exclusively based on feelings. i do not have an internal anthology gives instructions, i will not say that i know how to do it professionally and as i need to sometimes i do not feel the balance , but i always say that i am as subjective as possible. if you want objectivity, you should not go to my blog and i am not a representative of the bbc information service or public i i am a blogger and therefore, of course, i broadcast my point of view during my interviews, but what is more, if we imagine, for example, a hypothetical bbc journalist in ukraine, she is told something homophobic, does she have the right to object in the frame, yes, she has the same right. when she says something anti-semitic -

anti-semitic or racist is simply homophobia - this is hatred of people of a different sexual orientation, and racism of another race means that dark-skinned people are born that way because of their nature, that's how nature is arranged in general, they can't be to insult lgbt people when the world health organization is an organization whose protocols ukraine accepts officially says that this is a variation of the norm, who has the right to publicly turn the lives of these people into a tragedy because , believe me, if from every iron there are sounds of some let and do whatever they want in my bedroom, when life happens outside the bedroom, we sleep in the bedroom, we have sex, sometimes we eat the whole marriage, but relationships don't happen in the bedroom, they happen in society, and that's why i choose

subjectively based on my values, but of course uh i'm trying i don't know if i'm succeeding because i have doubts and sometimes i'm confused i'm learning i'm mastering it not to turn the conversation into a debate but to stay within the framework of an interview, but when i watched all of them well, all of them, mostly most of the interviews with iryna farion, i have to state that no one talked to her about important things seriously, even when people from my bubble interview her and she says something about gender, about stupid women who use feminisms and so on, people just smile and nod because she is eloquent, she is definitely intellectual u she has charisma and people are afraid to ask very important clarifying questions that must be answered at the moment. was i scared? but it's terribly uncomfortable, especially such personalities , er, it's uncomfortable to ask such questions. no one in the frame

was comfortable, neither me, nor ms. irina, nor mine neither the manager nor the operator was pleased with anyone in this room, but these questions must be heard for the culture of the interview, for the values ​​of the same and for the people who will watch it, because when under these interviews it is written that i am the same homosexual teenager that you are talking about they said thank you, i read this comment and i understand even if he was alone under the video, i had to go through all this cringe . it is a very unpleasant experience for me. i am ready to support what you say, the only thing that i m-m for myself based on my subjective view regarding this conversation, i asked myself a question, okay, okay, liza. where is the line between the interview itself and my discussion? this question of mine reinforced my comment about the fact that they said, why give a platform for farion

to express himself and carry it to say it again and then i thought, maybe the question is not to forbid her to say it, but the question is how to appeal to her, that is, is it possible , after all, in these questions, it is necessary to turn it into a debate. this is an open question, i do not have an answer to it. it seems to me that in the country where the most popular interviewer in terms of views is gordon, the most difficult question in his life was wow, in this context , the interview culture is at the level of a mouse. genitalia and bablo. at best, i don’t know. maybe someone is watching yana sawyer, but i agree on these sentences and smile . it is unlikely that there is a large audience in ukraine that watches it , so it has changed recently . gordon is still the leader and go to his page to look at his

views are millions and millions, this is the most successful interior , the culture of interviewing people is associated with the date of the site. which he did not interview well, that is, he took absolutely all interviews and there are interviews for any request, all of them are soft he did not take an interview, you understand no, i don't think it's because of the fact that it has been hanging for a long time and objectively, he even has a set of numbers, if you track what you are talking about in two weeks, it is very convincing, which the vast majority of ukrainian bloggers have not dreamed of in such a context, and an interview for people is associated with giving a platform. i am always annoyed, it drives me crazy and i try to shout at everyone an interview is not a board of honor, the interview is a genre that does not mean giving a platform and people who watched my interview with the same iryna farion, this jeramina with khagzai with the same alina pash well

, i think it would be fair to admit that it was not a classic platform where i i nod and let the person just say good afternoon, it's not like pr or marketing. i think that i'm this genre. i don't know, i still can't tell myself what this genre is. because it seems to me that i have to study and study, but in any case, it doesn't look like for advertising and interviews - this is not advertising genre yes, there are portrait interviews, there are more comfortable interviews, there are soft interviews, i do not think that every person should be crucified when they are in front of you in the frame, it will not be right , this will be hype, but when there is a question for a person important questions, uncomfortable questions, they must be asked, and this is important in an interview, and what's more, i do it, and no, i never agree that i gave the platform to farion. you also say at the beginning of each of your conversations that this is a conversation about the values ​​of books with

people who read well, it still seems to me that this conversation is more about these people rather than about the books they read, farion, for example, i did not read at all at this point that we are talking about books with mrs. irina farion, well, i understand that it is possible that these accents change and it is the focus of attention during the conversation, i understand that he you are flexible, first of all, there is no video where the characters and i talk about books, and farion also talks about the books of writers in the description of the video with iryna farion. there is a list of mentioned books that people can simply copy and google to buy these books and there if i'm not mistaken, there are at least five books , including bender and stetsko and volodymyr dibrova shevchenko with a fresh eye, a fantastic book , if you take the opportunity, i definitely advise you to read

it. soon , an interview with the publisher of the laboratory, anton martinov, will be released. and it's just two hours of talking about books when i have ramina. well, there won't be 2 hours of talking about books, but even in this interview, we talk about books in every interview we are talking about books to a greater or lesser extent uh you have been in journalism since you were 15 years old you started working back in well when you were studying at school and you already have very serious work experience when you decide that you want to go further this is due to the fact that have you outgrown the television format, have you become disillusioned with the television format? are these just some personal requests of yours? what did you use when i came to the news windows for an interview? hmm , the editor-in-chief asked me if we don't take you

on the windows, what else will you go to and i said that i will work either on windows or i will no longer work on television because for me it was the best news in ukraine and i did not like it very much and at the moment when the marathon absorbed the news and also absorbed in our from rum and windows as such in the same genre with those values, there were no more. it was a good impulse to fulfill my promise and move on. well, that is, it is not because you see the future precisely in terms of youtube or some content made by certain individuals and not specifically in the format of television according to youtube , definitely eh

. i think that television in this format with such approaches will exist to a greater or lesser extent, but gradually in the coming years it will migrate to youtube for sure. well, i do not give predictions. i am not an aristocrat, but 2-3 weeks at the most we still talk so much about values, i jumped at this thought, well, this word has been said so many times and i would also like to talk about it with you . because this is a question that i also ask myself . we form to me it seems that our coordinate system is only now taking on some clearer images. i don't think it's appropriate to say whether it's good or bad. yes, there is. well, there really is , and there is a person who, like you, for example, grew up in the west of the country, grew up in a clear to a clear understanding that russia is an enemy and was in a ukrainian-speaking environment . as i understand it, i did not have any other views, on the other hand, there is me who grew up in kyiv and, as i now understand, in

a family where this russian propaganda technique is perfectly implemented, and i to some i am starting to come to conclusions only now and i see now in shiroky pol and in particular in social discussions in one form or another there is a lot of condemnation that they say how could you not know about this because someone comes to this in their 30s, someone comes to this in their 40s , someone reaches 50 and so on eh, this is it for you is it worth it or is it a question not to wear this white coat and how do you generally feel about it? how are these critically important topics being discussed in society now? i think that i am a person who speaks ukrainian less than a third of books are in ukrainian in bookstores

honorable, which did not have fashionable quality ukrainian content, which in 2012 turned on the radio, only 3% of ukrainian songs compared to 60% of russian could be heard. "appeared two or three years ago, gloss in ukrainian, that is, me as a person. you see how i dressed up. i'm interested in the gloss of the letter, you 're honestly interesting. i couldn't read it in ukrainian. well, of course i'm traumatized , i'm indignant that i had to grow up without your own conditional space, let's imagine a person who grew up in a family where they communicate in russian, who consumed russian content, who is only in russian at school, and one day she is faced with the demand to learn a language for herself that she does not know, she has never seen the value and her environment did not nurture the value and learn this language there was no need because values ​​are

somehow very i think it sounds serious there was no need around all russian-language content you consume you do not somehow think about my needs and the needs of this hypothetical person which i am describing did not intersect, i had a need, there was no need , and this is how we somehow live, and the important moment is the answer to your question, are you and i enemies of each other? no one is to blame for my injury and yours . and he talks about the match lullaby mother's tongue and the rest of the bullshit. he says you are emo and gets out the enemies because i touch the language of my mother and lullaby, i say we are not enemies , we are traumatized. i am traumatized because of russia, this is our enemy because of repression, because of propaganda due to interference in ukrainian education, what is tabachnyk alone worth, not only because of this, he created a context when you and i cannot synchronize on these issues, even elementary language is not only

a linguistic issue look, i don't know in the history textbook tries to make enemies of people, after all, everything was normal. well , the documentation was in ukrainian. well, thank god. well, they answered you in russian in the institution when to speak ukrainian. well, you don’t understand russian, you don’t understand russian this means that i will still understand, you know, i understand german, i understand english, but if we assume that i have basic linguistic needs, and all people have them. well , not only sausage is our need, but if we imagine that i have linguistic needs and it is important for me to implement them, the question arises ok, let's open the map and see where do i have the right to implement them, that means big russia , there i do not implement linguistic ukrainian needs in belarus, they do not implement them in kazakhstan , in kyrgyzstan, they do not implement them everywhere russian, if it is fundamental for me, i will have the canadian diaspora and rynok square. i'm sorry, but there is only this country. where can i get a service in ukrainian and here, or

should i say that you will understand? well, you will understand and receive it in russian , or speak speak in an adult manner and the language law regulates in what language you will be served coffee because we respect your needs and we will go for it in the end there is a much stricter language law in germany which is very strictly enforced there a huge multi-million turkish from the diaspora and you know that they all learn german and no one says that this is discrimination against the turkish diaspora who came to germany as guest workers at the invitation of germany. no, they just all learn the language because in germany they speak german. if turkey was a great empire that bordered germany, yes. there would be problems because, due to expansion , they would try to absorb this language, as happened in ireland and in britain, where everyone speaks english and their native language

has practically disappeared already now. they are trying to somehow revive and nurture it is so obvious to me, i say it so often that but i will also say an important thing to sell coffee to a ukrainian person who grew up in ukraine , even if she does not communicate, it is not difficult , it is difficult in the case when a conditional aristocrat convinced her that it is somehow in this way, it concerns his mother who sings a lullaby , but if you manipulate and change the question of the discussion, such as providing a service to a lullaby mother, then simply take it and replace it in such a case , and there already a conflict is artificially created, which by the way, it is very beneficial to the kremlin. and you talk a lot about it, they said, they talked about it. how do you feel about the function of enlightenment? and in general , do you entrust yourself with such a purpose and function, and should it be done in the media and in the mass media, according to the definition of enlightenment and media, they intersect somewhere

or do they merge into one whole or not, in your opinion, i think that definitely well, i do not work in the media, i have a blog at all. but i think that when you do something important that you cannot be silent about, one way or another, it will carry a certain kind of educational function even when it is entertaining content, if we look at one of my favorite blogs, for example, the film squad of film lovers. and vitaly hordienko, when he even makes a video about video memes, this video turns out to be valuable and enlightening . god, it’s like a word-parasite, but it really hurts me, and this video turns out to be enlightening. video about memes about tick accurate jokes and it's funny it's sentimental it's richly dramatic and it's enlightening i think that one way or another or on purpose there i lay or we all have to lay to teach something

audience i think that this is hardly the right way depends on the genre but if you do something that you love very much, you still learn something from the community that watches you and the community learns from you, this is such an emotional exchange and a cultural exchange that probably happens in person, even a question that is will give me the opportunity to understand you a little better purely as a s-personality is that in your telegram channel you are signed as a slytherin er-er slytherin - this is a dormitory in the harry universe to try a series of novels by the author j.k. rowling and this is a dormitory. where did it happen that bad wizards came out, they usually did evil there, in the end, we understand that not everything is simple, lord, it’s so clear, but in the end , it’s still the first association with the fact that slyzers are so uh, well, it’s exactly as if, no, not on the side of good

from the start why are you a slytherin, first of all, i really hope that most people understand that this is ironic, and secondly, if you have been very emotionally engaged in unpopular trigger topics for many years, at some point - this is part of self-defense, i have heard a lot in my direction, i am crazy there i do not know crazy fangirl and all kinds of things like that since my early youth from a small town in which i did what i believed in. and probably at some point this is a protective reaction, humor is a protective reaction and self-irony is a protective reaction because when due to certain views even in youth when you are formed the community does not accept you and you still drag them or when you work on television and say that you want to make content about books and you go as a physical education teacher or a laborer who thinks that his elective is the most important and

no one believes in it and they say that no one is will watch at some point you already oppose yourself to the community and this is exactly the irony of the type yes slytherin is a joke and a way through the very irony to feel more inner comfort you experience that you are opposing yourself er ukrainian youtube is a community that i love very much and here i am i feel different, there are really more like-minded people here and we are really transforming it, no one will watch it. because everyone is watching it, my interview with mariam is a cultural study , as we speak, it has almost 200,000 views, 199,000 and will have more. and we we are talking about a cultural dialogue about an identity crisis, questions that will be laughed at on the big central channel, so uh , on all of them, on the majority, i agree with you, not on all of them, but if i say even on the vast

majority or on 95%, it is unlikely that anyone will argue with me, so i i'm proud i'm proud of ukrainians who consume content, you know stephen king once said that television will have a chance when it stops focusing on mediocre taste , youtube grabbed this chance with its teeth and i'm very happy about it thank you thank you for the conversation thank you we live in that day is endless february 24 day after day month after month are full of pain and despair but you have to finish it there are weapons there is equipment there is a plan start the year of retribution join

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