[000:00:00;00] oblast and in the south of russia, there is a video where these unmanned drones fly by, that is, ukraine is obviously studying the ppu system, studying eh, those eh, possible routes of passage and preparing for a massive attack , that is, one day. concentrated during the spring anti-terrorist campaign , russian cities can feel for themselves what a real strike by ukrainian drones is, and i think that the strike will be carried out on really important infrastructure objects, especially military ones, that is, in order to

to create just that atmosphere of chaos and panic . when ukraine starts an offensive, for example, and it turns out that the strikes are carried out in the depths of russian territory and are carried out quite far from the border. in gazprom , a drone also fell near one of the objects. this is reported by the press service of the company. they write that the fact that the drone fell near us did not affect the work in any way. находится введении fsb, well, that is, er, some drones are flying er, falling near strategic objects of russia, and we will monitor this and be happy er, that these drones , first of all, are flying there, and secondly, that they are falling there, er and in principle, we will hope that our strike drones will also reach their goal on the territory of the russian federation p

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from the world as well as front bronic on our website espresso tv we work for you 24 hours a day seven days a week the most efficient all the information is on our website. well, we should have a guest, mr. roman kostenko , people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security , defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine, mr. colonel, good day and good health to you. thank you for joining our broadcast. i wish you good health. mr. roman, let's start with the first analysis of the situation around the city of bakhmut, because there is a lot of contradictory information and a lot of disturbing information coming from this city . what is the current situation around the city and around the desire of the russian federation to take bakhmut, well , we have known about the desire of the russian federation since the beginning of the war, and

for the last five months there, they have been throwing a lot of effort and have lost a lot of their military resources arrived in the city of bakhmut, and at the beginning they wanted to take it head-on. we remember there, too, they threw a lot of their reserves there, and then they had a different strategy. they are now trying to surround it through the south. and the north would not take soledar for this, and now they are trying to create conditions to the encirclement of the lake there, the encirclement conditions in order to force our troops to retreat from the city, therefore the situation there is difficult, as general felsky says, but it is controlled, and now our troops are doing it in order to hold the city, and why do they want to what are the russians achieving by trying to take this city, that is, even if they take it, god forbid, bakhmut

, what do they get as a result? but i have already said more than once that for them it is more of a political task than a military one, and the military one is also the taking of another city after the surrender of kherson, in fact, you remember how they rejoiced when they took the city of sardar, which practically no longer had local residents. and in general , there were 15,000 people there before the war, so they surrendered half a million kherson and they needed to quickly to show some of their successes, they aimed at bakhmut when our defense forces gave them a selection. after all, he was able to take only soledar, and bakhmut not yet, and uh, the role of the handsome man has already decreased, he was already the favorite then, he was a favorite now, as a matter of fact, we can see that he is becoming an outcast, and bakhmut, uh,

stands until now, once again, uh, our defenders they are doing what they can, how the situation will develop further, we will see i think that if our military command will see that there is no longer any point in keeping him there for one or another objective military reason, we have prepared other frontiers, but we also have some experts there who say that there is no point in keeping bakhmut , we must move on. i think that our military sees a military fence in general to hold it and we have to understand what i already said that even before the surrender of bahmut, the war will not end, it will simply spill over into other territories and it will be necessary to fight further in more open positions to defend beyond the times of the constant ravine in kramatorsk slavyansk where the enemy will go next because in general he has the task of e-e previous such an exit to the borders of the donetsk

luhansk oblasts mr. colonel at the end of february or somewhere in the 20s of february, we were waiting for a big offensive of the russians ukrainian intelligence and foreign special services also predicted this big offensive of the russians. did this offensive begin, maybe not the big offensive that we pictured in our imaginations and from all sides as it was a year ago, but still, whether or not you are recording you are this the big offensive of the russian federation is going on here now and i think that they did not finish it and we remember that they were advancing , advancing and fighting, and then when the practical situation leveled out on all fronts and they had no reserves, the front basically froze e- and began to move in the other direction, we remember the kharkiv operation and then the kherson exit of the enemy from the kherson

right-bank bridgehead, and this exit was precisely what they carried out because they realized that they would not be able to pull up quick reserves with the help of mobilized ones. and if and will be able to with these reserves, it will not be possible to fulfill the tasks they set themselves, including the capture of bahmut and in general the capture of the kherson, kherson, donetsk, luhansk regions. therefore, these reserves were primarily more like a part thrown specifically in the donetsk direction and then they began to gradually advance due to the accumulation of these forces is more because they are mobilized there, then those parts that er destroyed or er our defense forces therefore er talking about this offensive is now underway, they will really press but i think

that this is the offensive for which the russian is preparing the federation simply doesn’t really have much right now in such weather, and in general, march is ahead , it ’s a draft, it’s a call to action, to conduct local offensives , to look for conditions to test the enemy, in order to charge . forces and what we see and they look different. i think the enemy is waiting, but will he or will he not be? we are preparing, we know it, mr. colonel, the month of february became the month of huge losses of the russians, they are in the second, the second month. they already show the result there with more than 20,000 killed, or rather, we show 20,000 russians killed , at least if multiplied by 3,000, 70 wounded , what do these huge losses indicate and they

want to overwhelm ukraine with their soldiers or push through the defenses or take over the donetsk region, go to the administrative borders , what are these victims for? used and they captured some territory, they used a lot of equipment that was destroyed by our defense saws. now we see that just after they began to use more infantry, they just began to increase the number of military personnel, and this speaks of the fact that they are protecting the equipment now, and everyone who is in the eastern direction is saying this, we can see it. and here in the kherson direction, they have pulled back and are using the infantry as a basis. i think it is

a simple desire, they are planning something and they are they have to count on something and they are accumulating forces so that in this period there is still no large-scale offensive, er, to have some resource, because now if they send equipment there in small directions, they can destroy it, and there will not be enough for a bigger strike , so they are using it less now. for the infantry, unfortunately, the infantry can be purchased tomorrow. and you can’t repair the equipment so quickly and you won’t do it, especially the opportunities that i have in russia, they are already limited, they also make ammunition, they repair tanks, they equip and modernize them there, but that’s all the same the resource that needs time and you can't accumulate it quickly, that's why they are trying to save more equipment for further military operations, in parallel with what is happening on the eastern and southern fronts, information is appearing about a possible russian offensive in sumy oblast well, at least this information is constantly denied and

they say that the russians do not have enough accumulated resources on the border of the sumy kursk e-e regions, but the russians are constantly shelling the sumy region and inflicting blows on the e-e last day 36 strikes on in sumy oblast, drones are flying towards chernihiv oblast, or rather from the intersection of chernihiv oblast and brest oblast. how do you assess the possibilities of the russians in general, whether to attack from other e-e positions and from and in other regions, that is, not only in donetsk region , zaporozhye and kherson region, but also in the north and the north-east of ukraine eh as a possible eh we will say but no and not me as the main eh because we really do not see such reserves here now they see them there from the accumulation of troops but there

to fulfill the task of smudging we can implement it we say about what i think the main hostilities can begin there in mid-late march and mid-april , and this does not mean when they are planning. i think they themselves do not know yet, they know the approximate dates only because they have to understand what the weather will be like so that it is very difficult to advance on the mud, that is, now at the crossroads, because now ugledar showed me when he passed by me on the road. and we even have such vehicles as tanks, armored vehicles , armored infantry vehicles, infantry fighting vehicles , they are not passable and they are installed a target has been set for the means of destruction in the field, and in order to make it impossible to carry out a large-scale operation without having operational space, and all the roads that

we shoot at or hold are under the crosshairs and it is impossible to go along them, they need space in order to deploy combat orders therefore it must be for this the weather must be normal so by this time they will still be able to pull something up i personally believe that it is from the north that they may have secondary strikes firstly to bind our ages for diversion of reserves well, and for the possibility of achieving some kind of success if you develop it, so let's say that we should not rule it out during the last week, mr. colonel , russia is leaking information about a possible offensive of ukrainians on transnistria, where the russian military is located, and moldovan journalist vitaly andrievskyi writes that e- they say that transnistria is not accessible to aircraft carriers, as russia believes, which is directed both towards moldova and ukraine, we know that

in 1999 yeltsin promised to withdraw from there the russian contingent of the unrecognized transnistrian moldavian republic, but still the military remains there and russia constantly says that ukraine will destroy transnistria, we must also react to this , in what way do you think the ukrainian side should get rid of this appendix, which in principle is m- m is not recognized and is an occupied region of moldova by the russian federation. i think that the world should get rid of all the appendages that the russian federation has made there since the days of independence in general for its own the history of this transnistria is also abkhazia and south afetia and lnr dnr what are they there tourist organizations on our territory

have created and now this has a chance i still spoke at the beginning of the war when we always said that the threat is there from the sea from the north the east and also showed the west it is still in transnistria that this issue needs to be resolved and help the republic of moldova this issue is closed now we have all the opportunities for this and because it is a threat it is a direct threat to us the republic of moldova has no control above this one territory, and there are russian troops, in fact, our enemies who have warehouses with ammunition there, these sausages are sausages, how is it read correctly, that's why i think that we have our diplomats, our commander-in-chief, and talk about it with moldova, with the world about that this enclave should be cleaned up and or simply offered to the servicemen to surrender there under some guarantees or under a counter so that there would be no

bloodshed, but we need this country, let's say not a country, but formation - this is our main task - it is so that there is no of the russian troops and already then the task of the republic of moldova is to establish its own legislation there, and to introduce its own norms into its troops as they will already agree there because our enemies are there in fact and we have to remove them. i have always advocated this and i believe that we should do it, how will the russian federation react, well, listen, we have already seen many reactions, it does not react, it will not react more than lanos , it will not surprise us with anything. therefore, we have such a real fact where we can start now to destroy, let's say, the russian mentality in general federation, when they think that what they have done is forever, that's from transnistria. it would be possible to start and then see where we

can still help. the armed forces of ukraine on the border with moldova have strengthened security measures and are building fortifications, the statement of the state border service of ukraine andriy demchenko, on the border with moldova , there is such a segment as transnistria, he said , since the moment of the full-scale invasion , the defense forces have strengthened this direction, not only control is being strengthened, but also engineering and fortification structures are being built. information from mr . i counted that there were already five or six applications for macron, but they did not wait for requests for

contacts to hear from piskov . peaceful ways at the negotiating table, but when this is impossible, military ways , that we seem to be, indeed, we heard a lot of statements, and when mr. shultz, mr. macrom, talked about the fact that they continue to communicate with putin in order to look for some ways out by creating a situation, but... well, recently there was no end of these, we heard probably 5.6 declared macros that i will literally be calling for days to talk, there were no requests

to know everything, there were no requests there are no orientations, there are no developments, it’s possible, it’s possible, the deadline is that i’m talking, that is, vladimir putin is sitting by the phone and is now hopelessly waiting for a phone call from macron or shultz. earlier, he simply didn’t want to talk to them, as zelensky says, he didn’t want to talk to zelensky when the great a war, a major invasion, mr. colonel, according to you, it is like in this situation well, the ukrainian side must react, that is, zelensky said that i have no intention of talking to putin, it is clear that uh it is obvious that the current military and political leadership of ukraine intends to defeat russia on the battlefield, to show russia its place according to your opinion, should there be any kind of negotiations, or at least, well, i don’t know, maybe budanov can be brought in as a group, he can negotiate with

naryshkin or someone else, i see that he said directly, he said that he is ready to conduct negotiations in his own interests and either at the negotiating table or through military actions , if negotiations do not work out at the table, then through military actions. therefore, this indicates that russia immediately expresses its intentions that they they have contracted their goals there, let's say, and they are ready. just talk about how they will achieve these goals through negotiations , negotiations, that's it, get out, let's go beyond the dnipro to the left, to the right bank, and we 'll take everything here, so that we don't kill anyone, if not, then we'll continue to fight, that's how you can talk to them, or they scare you with nuclear weapons, they are terrorists with whom there is nothing to talk about, and president zelensky is right when he says that there is nothing to talk about with them, in order to talk with them, you need to have

control over them, you need to you have to talk to them to have an advantage over them and one must have some kind of trump card up their sleeve in order to say that if you don't leave our territory , tomorrow you will be knocked out of those who or there you will be surrounded there by that there then if that's the case vlog, when they still have a lot of resources and the opportunity to respond to the war, they will simply use the negotiations for the time being to further prepare their troops for further strikes. i agree with the president that there is nothing to talk about with putin in general regarding the negotiations. i spoke with with our leadership, no one is conducting any negotiations now, what did they tell me, well, except for the negotiations regarding the prisoners of war, john kirby, the representative of the white house said that kyiv itself should define what victory is, what victory is. we want ukraine to win, and we think that they can do it to do, but they themselves will determine how

they will determine their victory, kirby told the colonel in an interview with bloombargo that at the moment, what is currently lacking in the ukrainian army and what is waiting for the ukrainian army, the armed forces of ukraine, because we let's remember that despite these talks about the great russian offensive , the great counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine was also predicted land and kill the occupiers, i understand correctly, including that and yes, we know that this is the russian federation. they also know that time is running out in their favor, they need it as soon as possible, while there

are no new leopards, as you say, but we we all talk about counteroffensive, you know, it's a military affair and that's what we say correctly, we ourselves have to define what victory is, we see where there is a concentration of troops, e. but there were cases when, for example, some country could specify, for example, the northern direction, and then we can negotiate, we give you rostov oblast, and you give us, for example, donetsk oblast. there were also cases because of that. let's decide where the german e-e tanks will go. let our commander-in-chief and supreme commander decide, but there are directions and there are directions to the north and to the east and to the south and to the south and where would be better where we

can have greater results in order to lead a further policy on ending the war, we have to decide where it will be better , will it be russian territory or will it be the further liberation of our territories, what is victory, also decide, this is victory, what are we we will go to our borders. we will win. but russia will not be defeated, and russia must be defeated. russia must understand that it has lost. simply withdrawing troops from our territory is one thing, but knowing defeat is quite another. that is why there are different vectors and i, if i were to accept i would also consider the solution where they have smaller clusters and their territories. also, in order to conduct full-scale military operations , mr. colonel, at the very end, i have one short question: does russia still have the opportunity

or resources to change the course russian-ukrainian war mmm let's just say that they still have resources and you can't relax under any circumstances because this war may end, for example, this year. although i don't think so myself, i think that it will be more but very i want it, too, and it can last for years. thank you, colonel, for the conversation. i wish you good health and come to us on the air. this was a colonel from the security service of ukraine, roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we work live on the espresso i tv channel. in our social networks for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook please like this video subscribe to our social networks on our youtube we are working for you read our e-news on the espresso tv website we are working for you 24 hours a

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