[000:00:00;00] the obvious decision of the court in the russian federation residents 4 ivan losev was found guilty of the article vot so-called discrediting of the russian army due to the retelling of one of his dreams on instagram, that is, 40, some 40-year-old man, a 50-year-old man from the fsb was sitting on a serious shelf and i rewrote my story from where and i am telling you not and then lovys received another punishment for deciding to tell about the fine of journalist tyutin - he was also fined 70,000 rubles for two interviews , and he received a trafficker for retelling from zelenskom so today in a small country you need to think carefully before writing or speaking out loud, and soon you will be banned from thinking teletopes 1984 people in general stopped allowing themselves even a factory of thoughts in krasnodar, a restaurant visitor was dissatisfied with the discussion of news from ukraine , a conflict began, the national guard arrived, the spouses who were talking at the table about the war

, they handcuffed her and in the second case in the ryazan region, a local resident was detained for an anti-war inscription in a cabin they were able to find her in the women's toilet. two days later, according to the video, the psb-shniks, by analogy with the thought police, launched their tentacles into literally all spheres of life. their task is to create a reality for society. the kremlin needs to not give the opportunity to allegedly hostile people . we are going to infiltrate society. in the service, so that the photos of the president of russia vladimir puchchyn will in no way be found in the search engine if the user a-a entered the words such as bunker grandfather glavinov vor and bald in the search engine, as it turned out in september and the system for detecting prohibited content on the internet works, you know what it’s called oculus oculus is called part of the system of total surveillance of russians, and the employees of the radio frequency center as it turned out, not only and even in the network, prohibited

content and so-called fakes pro-russian army foreign agents for the minvest, agree, everything comes to mind immediately after seeing the descriptions of the damage created by the lord of the rings, just think about it, it turns out that we have been calling russia a murderer for a reason all this time refiya herself successfully cosplays the main evil in the middle-earth state of mordor. recently, putler confirmed this with his prank with the shameful rings of power, which were not even the tsar gave the president of the cis one ring, the bunker fuhrer kept all the rings for himself. he can and imagines himself, but in reality he is a real dove, whom only burdock imitates, then stalin with his

bloody repressions, stalin was stalin again, stalin owes you putin one crazy dash of honesty kim chenin - it was an hour that melted a lot of things on the spot kotler no longer tries to hide his true face , first of all, he doesn't care about the world but let's see how he will sing when the zsu will drive out the rashi pagans of ukraine when the bunker and all his lockers will have to answer for what they have done i understand that if you don't need the cover of the arrow growing in the city and no one has lived with you , we will manage to lose the hague conditional or concrete, even the janitor who sweeps the cobblestones inside the kremlin wall is waiting nazi germany awaited collapse tolkien's mordor also lost and not russia will soon be defeated evil always loses even more if the side of good is represented by brave guys from

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today greetings my name is vadym karpyak and today we have a big interview with oleksiy chernyshov , the head of the board of naftogaz of ukraine congratulations to oleksiy. congratulations to you. thank you for agreeing. i immediately wanted to limit the circle of our communication to the topic of gas because today is the last day of winter. that is, we overwintered . you can say that the heating season is over. we overwintered. it will obviously be logical to concentrate on to our conversation specifically on gas issues although , as you rightly noted just before the start of our conversation , naftogaz, the name consists of two words, oil and gas with oil, there are also interesting gas stations there, but today we will talk about gas, don't you mind? absolutely not against, we have to remember with you that

nak naftogaz, the largest state-owned national company of ukraine, naftogaz actually includes the two words oil-oil and gas-hydrocarbons, and in fact naftogaz provides not a chain cycle, which consists of exploration, production, transit, storage , transportation, supply of gas, oil, petroleum products and other categories of energy, including heat, including gasoline at gas stations and other things that are very important today for the energy security of the state, you can already place your salary on march 4 the fourth month in this position, you headed naftogaz on the eve of the most difficult heating season, for starters, you are already used to this chair, you moved here from the minister's chair. you are already used

to being the head of naftogaz, it is always difficult to move from one area to another area and feel completely comfortable here everything was quite fast, but we are not talking about comfort , today we are talking about energy security of the country , energy security of the state, which naftogaz has to ensure, therefore, we came to the company quite quickly, set up appropriate processes about which i will tell you today well, let's probably start with the most important thing. it seems so to me, oleksiy , on november 4, you are the head of naftogaz, and at the end of november , you have a meeting with usaid with the americans, and where you say directly , we are short of gas now, on february 28, as an end consumer, i i did not feel a lack of gas this winter, i did not feel it because you did so

, are we really not lacking it now? i thank you for such an assessment and for the fact that you pay attention to the fact that consumers did not notice the lack of gas, in fact it is this situation existed, it was objectively uh, we were preparing for this heating season. i personally headed the headquarters for preparing for this winter during the uh, summer months, together with the relevant ministries and local self-government bodies, we carried out a huge amount of work on the preparation and accumulation of preparation gas networks of equipment preparation, it was done quite qualitatively. i am grateful to all the participants of this process, but after october 10 , all known events related to the destruction of the energy infrastructure took place, which

led to a shortage of electrical energy and in turn uh-uh forced us to produce more electrical energy using weapon gas generation that is, we needed more about it gas in order to get through this winter in terms of electrical energy in this regard uh-uh we turned to our countries -partners, primarily the big seven , received appropriate support, primarily financially, and imported the necessary amount of gas to get through this winter and in terms of electricity. we should also note that after all, the natural climatic conditions were on our side this winter. that's why it was successful. well, you still said that there was a moment when we were on some limits, so i understood from you that we should probably relax only on february 28. at least

march is still ahead. we will have enough of these reserves, what we have. yes, i have to inform you and guarantee that we have enough gas reserves for this winter , moreover, we have already started preparations for the next heating season 23-24, we will do it now every year, preparations for the next winter will not be any separate an event that causes certain risks every year, it will happen on an absolutely regular basis and we will plan our resources ahead of time, what does it depend on , in fact naftogaz must now ensure the stability and security of gas supply for 12.5 million ukrainian households in fact everyone's ukrainian family depends on a steady supply of gas and heat from

naftogaz, so our task, first of all, is to preserve and increase actual ukrainian gas production, and without your permission i left it on a separate topic of conversation, well, that is, we are in we will touch on the process of this conversation, but now i want to understand. can you name the number of how much gas we have in reserve for this heating season in numbers? is it, well , i understood, if you can’t, or it is obvious that it can also be our economic secret during wartime, this information is quite public to us absolutely. there is enough gas to complete this heating season and gas reserves are not only related to the heating season , gas is consumed and after its completion , industry works, god willing, it will be revived, business works, housing and communal services work and other industries, therefore, gas is constantly consumed, we have to keep the appropriate balance every month, eh, we pay attention to this only

in winter, eh, but i have to assure you that there is absolutely enough gas, we have certain reserves, we are absolutely clearly and confidently looking at the passage of the next one heating season and we will prepare for it well, when does this one end, because you are always such a risk , it seems to be easier psychologically . so when does spring start tomorrow? it can be very funny, it can also be very cold in april. by the way, it can also be why i remember that this is a special price for consumers , for the public, i use it, it works until april 1, and our heating season traditionally ends somewhere in april , as far as i remember, it depends on temperature regimes, what to do with this lag of two weeks, what is the price until april 1, and especially or do we know? well, to be honest, gas is very cheap for the population compared to its market price

, that is, until you plan, uh, this heating keep the season conditionally eh what concerns the end of the heating season i.e. when eh the batteries will be turned off so without you asking about it we will actually divide it into multi-apartment buildings and private for private houses gas is supplied constantly during this year and the decision regarding it heating is already taken directly by the owner of this building, what concerns multi-apartment objects is the supply of centralized heat, where it is produced at the expense of teplokomunenergo and these enterprises , there is an additional volume of gas that actually goes for e.e. for the production of cooking in stoves, the so-called gas is also supplied constantly

throughout the year, as for the volumes, they will be provided during the year when we expect that all the governments will turn off the gas for the supply of heat, that is, actually stop the supply of heat after all there is hope that we will be able to do this at the very beginning of april , but we will be guided by the temperature indicators that are in the country, if it is cold , then of course the heat supply will continue and there is no danger in this but we all realize that this year we have to save gas . i am grateful to the local self-government bodies, the mayor, for their understanding of this issue. they were quite careful about the beginning of the heating season last fall. if you remember, we started it at the end of october, at the beginning of

november. i am sure that its completion will also take place at the beginning of april, if the weather indicators are good for us. as the allies say , i will generalize with your permission, that is, private consumers are those who are in private houses, they are not they will notice nothing when they want, then the main season of multi-apartment buildings is over. it depends on the decision of the local authorities and the temperature regimes . it is clear that you asked about the tariffs. i do not want this issue to be forgotten, so the tariffs will not change during the entire heating season, regardless - unimportant at the moment its legal or actual completion, so our consumers can be calm in this regard, and i would like to take this opportunity to thank, first of all, our private

consumers, i will remind you that 12.5 million of households that are quite disciplined, despite the difficulties, despite the difficulties of the war, pay their bills, definitely for the oil company. this is a very important issue today. this is support, and first of all , the household and private consumers behave patriotically, behave in a disciplined manner, and do you have any percentage indicator of how many percent of consumers pay definitely this indicator fell slightly compared to the year without peace, and i can say that today we receive an average payment of about 80% for consumption from private consumers in stable regions oh, now is the time to move on to planning the next heating season, you once told my colleagues in one of the previous interviews that you want to wean ukrainians from everything er that

the heating season is like some kind of er disaster to which spontaneously it is necessary to prepare and the whole state is working to prepare for the heating season, it should be smooth and you also have other plans to prepare immediately two years in advance to switch to this two-year planning, so it turns out that you are now starting to be planned for the season 23:24-25 yes, we always have to ensure a stable energy supply, what is this, in fact, we have to understand the balance of our resources and the reserve of our resources . during the following periods, i believe that two years is the minimum period that we should see in the future, definitely we plan and for a longer period of time, but during the war , it is quite difficult to do this, you and i are perfectly aware of this. but it is as if consumers should identify naftogaz with the issue of stability

with the issue of energy security and energy independence for the state is our goal and we are following this path. once again, i want to emphasize that every year ukraine is used to the fact that preparation for the heating season is some kind of special event, a special heroic mission that we have to undertake. this is not the case in any civilized country in the world. know what it is to prepare for the heating season of providing the country with gas, because everything will be carried out according to plan, and it has been for a long time, and not only today, that gas and oil are used by the russian federation as in fact, weapons are an object of manipulation as a tool of manipulation for other countries, and we must provide ourselves with appropriate reserves in order to treat this resource as a weapon, it is a national reserve, and naftogaz must provide it, how to achieve it in

the matter of gas, for example, definitely. this is our own production, the increase of our own gas production ukraine is a large country, a large state with a historical tradition of gas and oil production. it has fantastic reserves that cannot be compared with the largest countries of europe and we must increase this production, we talk about it every year, but these indicators must increase and we must invest this year too. naftogaz will significantly invest production in those regions where today it is possible even in those regions where it is somewhat risky today, but we we have to move forward and provide the country with our own gas, i already talked about it. i just wanted to talk about it. because energy dependence is a word that we hear

during the 31st year of independence . this is a very correct position. me too i agree that it is necessary to distance ourselves from this preparation of the headquarters for the preparation for the heating season, well, this year, or rather last year, it was justified, we had martial law, and it was not least thanks to this preparation that you were able to supply the donetsk region with gas, because i know that the donetsk region was preparing to winter without gas supply due to military actions . thank god there is gas wherever you can, but this idea of ​​energy independence, you outlined a very ambitious goal in an interview with the bloomberg agency, which , as far as i understand, ukraine will be released on the 23rd of this year for self-sufficiency in gas and we will not need to purchase it for the next heating season, this is a very ambitious goal that none of your predecessors succeeded in, which makes you

think that you will be able to achieve this goal in wartime. and there is no other way if we really strive for energy independence . we we have to provide ourselves with our own resources and we have such opportunities we have such opportunities the country has unprecedented gas reserves, we need them in fact to ensure production development production and further work in this direction, we are doing it this year, we have an ambitious goal regarding production, but the question is not only the volume of the gas that you produce, it is the volume of consumption and the balance of this consumption in this regard. i once again want to draw attention to the importance of the position of local self-government bodies and mayors regarding energy efficiency issues in this

regard. i understand that we are moving in the right direction in most cities, this issue is being actively worked on, we must reduce consumption while ensuring people stably, heat, gas, energy and other resources, we have opportunities to increase production and we will do it, our task is definitely. this is an additional investment in this industry in naftogaz, which is planned to be made this year and is already being made every month, eh, i have indicators for a gradual increase in production we will also work with private companies that work in this field in order to stimulate them to produce more. well, this is an interesting question. you say that naftogaz will invest in production, but

naftogaz is currently busy with the expression you are structuring the debts that the company has for obvious reasons, and we are talking about private investors in western partners, they came up with initiatives, they are interested in these investments, because it is obvious that the big hydrocarbon giants, let's call them that will be correct, yes, hydrocarbons, that's all they should be interested in, they put forward some ideas that they are ready to invest money in mining in ukraine we have constant er negotiations current er such quite strategic talks with the giants you say about er there is a prospect in this there is a future i am sure that they will appear in ukraine, of course. for objective reasons , the war affects the speed of this, this is no excuse for us

. war, what concerns the future of additional production, this is the issue of naftogaz, this is the issue of ukraine, we have to take care of it and we have to understand that it has to be solved by our state and the state national company, we will invest and we invest in additional volume of production well, mr. oleksiy, you mentioned energy efficiency and reduction, i see a certain paradox in this. obviously, this is due to the monopoly position of naftogaz, because you, as a producer of gas and hydrocarbons, are interested in people consuming as much of it as possible and more was used then, as if more profits, but you are also interested in the fact that because of the price of gas, obviously, now and hydrocarbons, you are interested in people using less of them, so that we can save in time of war, and that is why you talk about

energy efficiency how can it be combined within one company when you make money from usage but make sure that people use less so it's actually a paradoxical question i understand what you 're asking about first of all naftogaz aims to achieve energy security of the state and stable supply and trust from our consumers and customers, this is the main thing that concerns the economy of today's supply, so i would at least like to remind and explain to all of us that there is a supply under a special obligation that actually forms additional compensatory future payments from the government, which should ensure the economy of this process, so when you say that naftogaz is interested in supplying more, it is not entirely true . today, when naftogaz supplies an additional volume of gas, it actually records certain losses or debts that arise in this

process, so we like no one else, they are interested in the development of energy efficiency, so that appropriate funds are invested, today, cities have such an opportunity , this direction is allowed in the budget cities should be redistributed in order for cities to invest in this particular field. i am sure that this will happen, therefore there is no such paradox as you say, it should be the other way around, and naftogaz also participates in certain energy efficiency programs, we have our own projects that we implement we also work in other energy sectors , including the so-called green energy , we develop projects related to the sun and the wind, that is, solar power plants

, wind power plants, and we will be to deal with it, yes, but i would still like to return to hydrocarbons , specifically to gas, as we agreed with you at the very beginning, because it is good that you can do it, but in what condition is our gas infrastructure in general after february 24, you are actually in control almost all oblasts were affected. as i understand it, i am an end user who pays separately for gas transportation. one payment for gas consumption, another payment. can you imagine the state of our gas infrastructure now and after a year of active hostilities and, in general, when they were in in private hands and now they have returned to the management of a state company. yes, you are absolutely right, the physical condition of the gas infrastructure significantly affects the stability and transparency. i would like to emphasize the gas supply in our country , in fact , the integration process of certain regional gas companies in

the structure of nak naftogaz, this process has not yet been fully completed, but it will be completed in the near future, precisely this year, and our task is to increase transparency, convenience, comfort and stability gas supply for the consumer, the end consumer does not have any problems or doubts regarding the correctness of the calculation regarding the correctness of the calculation of the consumed volume, it should be absolutely clear and comfortable for the consumer, and that is how it will be, that is why we do it during the war, especially our task is