[000:00:00;00] what, that is, who should be included in the lustration list? believe me, people can also vote and say everything, and believe me, the decision is not to satisfy those former people who were in the communists and in the party of regions, etc., not only you, i would like to talk about this for real not only did they actually talk, but they moved on to this, in the end there is a bill of mine and i , ihor friza’s bill, an alternative one, also according to igor’s illustration, your project and ms. oksana’s project, in my project there are more simply, simply, detailed questions that oksana and you voiced exhaustive, the procedure for determining the appropriate relevant procedures, e.e., the distribution of political responsibility of certain persons, the procedural issues are just different from one draft law to another, but the illustration is the next step, let's not forget that there are draft laws registered in the verkhovna rada , which today, e.e., are the subject of consideration

by the committee on regulations are the subject of consideration by the committee on legal policy newly addressed relevant appeals to relevant scientific institutions regarding the determination of constitutionality or existing violations of the possible constitutions of the specified draft laws that give the verkhovna rada and society the opportunity to actually terminate the activities of the people's deputies elected from the banned party of the people's republic of ukraine within the walls of the verkhovna rada . this is for one of my draft laws, which was registered back in june or july, i don't remember of the previous year, and the second such draft law contains a different wording , a different technique . activities of the council and the general termination of their foundations. we found two options for how to do this. the first option

is already being considered in the verkhovna rada, and now the conclusions of scientific institutions are being issued on it. i have a certain political responsibility to say that if psg is banned , let's clean up the council from them, and this should really be done by the leadership of the morning. look , certain illustrative processes have already taken place in our country, unfortunately they did not apply to it was the legislative body of our state, but there was an initiative about how it was implemented, it can be discussed in the same way, but it did not give, let's say, the fully expected result , ms. oksana, how to make the illustration two zeros, as they say, and already at the level of the deputy corps, really work for the future, well, it is needed it is just fair and honest to say if you were elected as a deputy of any council at any level if you

were a candidate from this party even if you were not a party but you were a candidate from this party, if you supported it, it was recorded that you went there, and the political views of this party, accordingly, you do not have the right to run for office and hold positions in local self-government bodies. nobody forbids these people to live in ukraine and work, just please. let other people come, uh, not your assistants, to your uh, so i don't know, uh, fellow party members, and that's all. it's very simple. it's been in my bill for 10 years. i think it's a completely normal term when and after that, it's already there will be such a purification of society that such parties will already have such ideas in ukraine . and i believe that this is an easy, even a very easy

way, just do not appoint them to positions and do not give them the opportunity to stand for election at any level, i would add that i knew that i would allow a small remark to oksanin, a confirmation that those formulations that are being discussed in society today, that political responsibility can somehow be implemented, that people will not elect these people, they will remember them, let's don't forget, when the elections start, such a big mechanism will be launched. i don't want to say bribery of the voter, but the influence on the consciousness of the voter and, let's say, a change in the paradigm, that people in some places will make a mistake and bring these people to power again, that's why there are essential statements in our draft laws about the fact that it wasn't just that someone was seen like that somewhere. and if there was a relevant court decision that did not have legal force and the specified person was really a member of the political force

that brought the war to our country, she a priori cannot continue to have any political e-e political history in this country, this was key and the main thing with this, we need to come to some kind of result, but there is a big big problem with all of this, you know , there has been no war in europe for a long time, and since after the second world war, the response to such a war as now in ukraine in europe there was no and europe does not remember those people who started the war, then they already forgot about it, it's all hot and alive with us now and it's all touching us, that's why the statement of our european colleagues that the european court of rights a person will not be appreciated the relevant hmm legislative initiatives and the right to choose should still be left. it seems to me that they should have the opportunity to argue. well, the key territory, even in the european one, is not only the european court of

human rights, so to speak, but the existing evidence base and the conduct of relevant procedures, so to speak what would allow us to really fix this water's connection to one or another party, i don't even want to call it that because we understand that there can be certain manipulations. this is an extremely important story. thank you very much. all for your participation, for your analysis in this oksana savchuk, people's deputy of ukraine and ihor fris, people's deputy of ukraine, worked now live on the air and in the press. well, i just want to add that if there were no people's deputies from the already banned police force, it still remains in the committees of the supreme the councils work on these committees, and maryana bezugla from our defense and intelligence committees, who noted that the history of zvenislavsky has been exhausted as of now, says to vote for

the transfer of lyovochkin, we will still be ready to transfer and assured that there is no directly related to the attack on her, she was a suspect and suspected that these stagings could be related to this, but the transfer is not a way out of the committee. as i understand it, mr. lyovochkin will probably work in another committee, for example , we understand that the national committee specifically for national security and defense is very serious, yes well, just for a long time, long-term things happen like that, and not systematically. well, the procedure is like that. yes , we understand. we want to be better. well, let's move to the side of good, and so on. and so on. well, we'll see, we'll see, now we'll have a very sensitive topic for me to discuss, just yesterday it became known that in kharkiv, odessa and other cities, the national police prevented mass fights among teenagers, that there is a supporter

of the youth subculture pvk rydan , what is it, eh, i don't know, it's a trend, some kind of new trend about this must we will definitely talk, but uh, there is really very thin ice in the psyche of people, in particular teenagers who are underage who join similar currents, m-m, in a certain way , it has a specific influence, recall only the story with the blue whale, as well. by the way, with with russian roots, so to speak, the story is very dangerous, which led to the death of a large number of e-e and ukrainian teenagers , including in social networks, the police blocked 18 channels and groups that were created to promote the pvk rydan in ukraine, well, more than 700 people were invited to preventive talks , most of they are minors, that some kind of mass fights were planned

, the purpose of the actions was not fully understood. all this is somewhere in the shopping and entertainment centers. join these strange things zoya kharkovenko candidate of psychological sciences contact us mrs. zoya we congratulate you glory to ukraine er i have a book i congratulate you tell us a little more in detail what we already know about similar groups or youth trends and why ukrainian youth still vulnerable to such things, please, well, first of all, i want to say that any youth, not only ukrainian, and in particular teenagers, it is typical for them to join some powerful movements where you can express yourself. today we are talking about such a phenomenon or the phenomenon of the youth subculture, and in fact you and i need to orientate ourselves in the context in which these

events take place, well, there are three important conditions that we need to pay attention to. the first important condition is that ukrainian teenagers have been there for a long time, more than three years in such a limited condition, history or social isolation are related to covid, and this condition limited most of the actions or events in which teenagers could take part. the second condition is the war, which also limited to a certain extent the participation and active activities of teenagers in some more productive forms of communication and interaction. the third condition, in my opinion, is important. in the part that most experts who analyze these manifestations today say that the events began to happen precisely on the anniversary of the beginning of the war and it seems to me that it is important to take this into account when

we talk about why do teenagers join this movement or why do teenagers join such actions in general, these three conditions are important , the second point that is worth paying attention to is so you mentioned that the psyche, the labile psyche, reproduces, reacts very, very vividly , what is important for teenagers is self-affirmation , uh , joining their own kind. age, that is the separation that should occur in teenagers from their parents, it has now fallen on this moment of time well, and the third thing that is worth paying attention to is that um, i am not

inclined to say 100% that this is a special operation. well, the so-called gypsum, but many experts are inclined to the fact that it can be an artificially created viral network event, because, as you noted, and everyone is talking about the fact that quickly created telegram channels, telegram chats and virtual reality are what teenagers live in today and the opportunity to realize themselves, the opportunity to participate in some actions in virtual reality, it is actually organic, we are one more person who agrees with you, an extremely important story from the other side well, this is pvc redan probably far from the worst thing that could happen, god forbid, we understand, maybe it was a test of the pen, maybe it was a warm-up before some more serious actions , if it was really hostile and the pso

, we understand that separate groups and separate communities can be created, and accordingly, which can carry a much more dangerous in i am an internal trend, thank you very much for this makeup because what are the consequences or what could be the dangers, well, first of all, the creation of telegram channels from the telegram chat involves the collection of information and here we just have to be aware of the fact that when teenagers join any source of this kind, the second moment becomes known about them, eh, this is the influence of eh, well , in fact, on eh, the discrediting of the struggle that ukraine is currently waging, but due to weak consciousness or lack of awareness, the cause of consequential teenagers may not understand why these actions

of theirs may be harmful for them personally and for those who may be affected by it. and closed groups can indeed be formed. and these closed groups can have even greater harm to well, more consequences. tell me, please, ms. zoya, and such trends, movements, and so on , they come to us from outside. i’m not saying only the pro-russian federation, these subcultural moments, or are there something that are born exclusively in our country based on realities and circumstances do you understand this question of deep research, yes, subcultures did not appear yesterday, they have existed for a very long time and they are being formed, uh, well, there is even a large classification of subcultures, including youth ones. yes, the so-called constructive

, destructive, and so on, if we are talking about what is the source of the origin of any subculture, it is always around some idea, but the motive for joining any subculture , both in youth and in teenagers and adults , is always to join something strong , powerful, where you will be equal, where you will be recognized in principle we can say today that there are powerful youth e-e movements in ukraine, including these network ones and flash mobs, which are around patriotic ideas, these are layered ideas, these are scout ideas, these are ideas well, i was watching, preparing for our conversation, i watched what was the latest on the island last year, yes, in the year of the war, we had several large youth flash mobs. come back alive for the unification of ukraine, that is , actually joining any of these

youth movements or adult movements, it is always caused by the desire to be part of something powerful. by the way, this sobbing yes, he is hmm, in fact, the fact that russia is considered to be the source of origin, well, it only emphasizes that this activity is so established because look what an interesting model of mechanics, interestingly, two are created at once the opposite movements of sobbing and anti-sobbing, and those who conditionally administer history, they understand that it is necessary to create such a contradiction, a confrontation, and what is the danger , for example, for teenagers. they do not understand that they are being manipulated, but they immediately spit it out among themselves, and if you ask, what kind of idea is

this idea not controlled chaos thank you thank you for this analysis e-e candidate of psychological sciences worked live on the air analyzed the situation with the so-called pvhredan sect, more precisely, the telegram channel well from the path of the telegram channel to the sect can be quite quick, so to speak. diana ducyk, executive director of the ukrainian institute of media and communication, a teacher at the mogilian school of journalism. to ukraine and we congratulate you heroes glory good evening to all eh well indeed after february 24 and this shows our research

and the research of other eh organizations why that happened and tried to understand what is so attractive about telegram channels that people choose them almost as the main source of news today and actually the answer was probably to some extent predictable , that is, the majority said that it is convenient for them to just use telegram channels, and this is explained by the fact that people are in difficult conditions all year round, they are constantly moving , and they have telegram in their phone. and actually it is very easy, they receive a message that new news has arrived, there is some kind of message new and in this way it is very convenient and also in addition to the fact that it is convenient, the respondents talked about the fact that it is fast and efficient , these are the characteristics that

attract people to telegram channels, because there is an awareness that just as quickly and information appears promptly in these telegram channels, i.e. not only can you get it quickly and promptly from there, but it also appears in the same way, and this does not mean that it is of the appropriate quality and with the appropriate level of verification and that in general you should not confuse the concept of social networks for telegrams and mass media well, i would say that this criticism it is not at a sufficient level among our citizens, although this is because we had a multi-component study and there was a public opinion poll, but we also conducted focus groups and here actually during the focus -groups, we discussed with people how much they understand the difference between manipulative content, fakes, and disinformation, in general, they seem to understand the difference between reliable and unreliable information, but they are quite

calm about its presence in different telegram channels, that is, they are not so categorical about what they say. that's all. if something is wrong here, a lot of them said what they say. i first look if this channel often already publishes such things, then i only unsubscribe here, that is, here there is a question about what needs to be covered after all, the critical perception of information from telegram channels must be raised here and there is a job for many who work in the field of media literacy i think well, i am here on one side with you i agree, on the other hand, i would like to introduce it, so to speak this is how people need their vision, not long, long and boring information, but fast news, that is why the telegram channel works if it is administered by skilled, intelligent people. well, it will develop very quickly

until someone there writes a great talmud, or until someone lazy there wakes up and reposts from one site to another site , the news. well, for a certain time, and accordingly, we understand who is more skilled and who is faster, he usually begins to pass under himself what is called reader trust, this concerns telegram channels, and then of course there is manipulation. moreover, there is no special responsibility for this. and the most important thing is the difference between a telegram channel and one or another that is not from an internet site or a newspaper . the telegram channel is a group based on interests, that is, people start people who need some information there, i don't know of one or another nature, so whether it will be about politics or it will be about football or it will be about banditry and so on and so on they stick there stick stick stick well and accordingly

maybe i'm wrong - i'm wrong panda adrenalize about interest groups, of course there are interest groups in telegram, but we investigated news telegram channels, even if they are anonymous , but it should still be telegram channels, that is , they report news, and therefore it is difficult to say that these are interest groups, that's all. anyway, channels that report news report different levels of information. here and here, well, i would say. we also compared these anonymous channels, e-e, with the content provided by telegram channels of mainstream media. we took the public ukrainian pravda and censor.not and actually, what do we lose, so to speak, the channels of the media media really lose in efficiency, and here there is an explanation because they just spend time checking information and this is an important point , that is, in order to speed up the checking

of information, the number of people must be increased and probably so on, it affects the price increase, because you have to pay salaries and so on, that's why they lag behind the telegram channels and streaming media to some extent in this speed, and besides, they don't publish hype videos, which are not unverified either obscure sources, that is, they don't do it. the same with photos. here's another thing that's very important, but it's possible to improve just this situation. it seems to me that for the mainstream media, that is, the audience, we asked her which content formats are the most, well, let's say the easiest to perceive and you will be surprised that the audience just said that they didn't name the video. they said that the video in telegram channels is too difficult because the internet is bad now - it doesn't load well because

you can't listen to it and watch it there, for example on work, because it would disturb others, and so on, there are many obstacles. and here is the format. when the text is combined with a photo, it is very popular with people, and everyone said that it is the best format for the telegram channel, and when we monitored the content, this is another component of our research. saw that just the text combined with the photo, a very large number of photos are published by anonymous channels, millionaires, but main silver media main silver telegram channels, my silver media, they publish very few photos, well , again, the reasons may be that they they give only verified photos or they give or they may not give photos in order not to violate copyrights and so on, but this is exactly the question with which the media should work and they can choose this situation - i am more than

convinced that it is simply necessary to set this as a goal, such content is more interesting and attractive for ms. diana's audience, and the topic of damage from telegram channels has already been researched. audiovisual materials are leaked if we are talking about the situation with the war in ukraine, which can be used by the enemy, is actively monitored by the enemy and which have certain consequences in the context of their publications, this was not the subject of our research. our task was to find out how these large channels work in order to understand why they attract such an audience. but if we are talking about harmful content, it is definitely present and even in these telegram channels

. enmities and well, hype of various plans and obscene language, uh, that is, i apologize to mrs. diana, these are the characteristics of our ordinary life, well, it means that going out into the streets, there will be hype, obscene language, and who is entering the minibuses, whom do you want to talk about, because it is very different our ordinary life. each of us lives in a different environment. for example, every day i do not use hyperbole, profanity, and the circle of people with whom i communicate also this year is true, but very much. well , it depends on the environment, and it is very diverse, therefore it is impossible to generalize everything. here, but about the harm. i want to add that it is really a big problem. and we recorded a number of interviews with media experts and talked , among other things, about the issue of regulating e-e telegram channels, in particular, in terms of countering

harmful content and here it's a long way, in fact, it's not only ukraine that doesn't know how to solve this issue, european countries are also thinking about it. that 's why there are really many problems here, because even our sbu. sorry, they say that they don't know how to detect it. hmm those agents who are a-a telegram channels that work against ukraine yes, that is, because it is impossible to establish this in a legal way, because telegram does not provide answers to official requests, yes. that is, it is precisely the platform that does not go to communication, as opposed to facebook, for example, here where is there a representative from all over ukraine to whom you can contact and you can talk to him about something thank you ms. diana diana dutsyk executive director of the ukrainian institute of media and communication teacher

of the mogilian school of journalism well, we we understand. so good media should work better. you should read good telegram channels , and you don't need to read bad telegram channels. well, there are good ones . we have a telegram channel. we are regularly engaged in improving their work and operational news can be obtained from there. we also remind you that the espresso tv channel continues our collection for the needs of the soldiers of the company named after roman shelebidzhikhan as part of the 251st battalion of the 241st brigade. we have a thermal sight, an absolutely necessary thing for our defenders, right now on your screens you can see qr-codes that you can scan, you can follow the link and make donations, and i really want to thank all our viewers during today's

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